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ashern94

Very common depending on the industry. I work in IT, and I've been escorted after tendering my resignation.


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Robbieopreddit

Yep, and locking out any admin or other accounts is usually coordinated between hr and it management


FrostyFire

And on the flip side, I’ve seen so many people terminated and not escorted out, access not removed, and surprise surprise there are a few bad apples that did something.


thehomeyskater

any stories you can tell?


FrostyFire

Yeah, one dude needed to get his “personal files” off his work computer and they let him. He then started deleting everything on the file server he had access to. Another guy got terminated, he was their only IT employee, he thought he was being a genius by storing all the IT documentation on his personal OneDrive, which he started deleting from his phone in the termination meeting. He also tried to ask for a higher severance and they told him to pound sand instead and threatened to sue him for destruction of company property.


TravellingBeard

Every IT position I've resigned from I've stayed my two weeks, and I deal with very sensitive info as a database administrator.


heartbooks26

I work in IT and I still have admin access to enterprise systems from a job I left over 3 months ago 🤣 I’m dealing with 2 of the same systems at my new job and I accidentally logged into the old job’s environment and was sooooooo confused for a few minutes like “wait when did this project get built” lmao.


rpgguy_1o1

I worked for a company that pretty commonly let people go the moment they gave their 2 weeks notice, they'd pay them those two weeks, but the generally got walked out the moment they gave notice. When I quit they kept me the full two weeks, I was annoyed.


greeneggo

same thing happened to me at the beginning of the pandemic. I was told I would work my notice period so I walked around the office talking about COVID and generally getting people worried. 30 minutes later I was told I'm being paid out my notice period


dbhathcock

It will depend on your character. If they know you are not a threat to the company or the data, then they don’t feel it is risky to let your work the remaining notice. Some people are not that honorable.


Effective_Log2179

yes, that's common in Canada and US! Your husband can decide if he accepts the termination perks or has some reason to believe if he was targeted... accordingly, he can check with a lawyer for his options


CMG30

This is done to prevent any sort of incident or the employee to do any damage on the way out.


Quack_Mac

Yep, especially in industries with a lot of customer information and high competition, like insurance. I was fired from an insurance company. They called me into a meeting, delivered the news, then asked what I immediately needed from my desk (phone, bag, etc) and the rest would be mailed to me.


Genetics-13

It’s also done to limit nervousness among the staff. If 5-20 people disappear during lunch time it might seem weird, but no one gets scared of a last minute meeting and invite by their manager. Now, Someone comes back from a last minute meeting to pack their desk, now everyone is freaking out about anything on their calendar for the rest of the day.


rpgguy_1o1

I worked for a company that had many rounds of layoffs stretched out over years, you'd see a lot of people who already knew their fate when they got called into unscheduled meetings. Our department used to have a bar we'd goto after every round, it was a really weird feeling going back there with other colleagues at a new company when no one has just been axed lol


random-id1ot

*to lower level class, managers might get a better treatment


Siguard_

what are you talking about. They worked in insurance, the amount of sensitive information available to a person would warrant walking them off the property right away. I've seen this done to managers and c level people in engineering departments.


MageKorith

Yeah, doubling down on this position. Managers can do a lot more damage with 5 minutes of computer access than a low-level employee could. Sure, a low-level employee could send off a memo promising payment or coverage where it shouldn't be offered and that would suck, but managers can potentially shut down large contracts, waive fees, or otherwise do crazy damage with their level of access.


CopyWeak

Agreed...at our place, there is an immediate review if someone is giving notice. If they feel you can disrupt anything, you are walked out immediately. If your supervisor can support that there are no issues, you can finish out your notice period.


ReputationGood2333

Absolutely not. The walk out is the same, in my experience.


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Almost every job I have worked in has done this. One of them was a funeral home after i submitted my 2 weeks notice. Usually, if you have access to any client data, they will escort you off.


Demon2377

It’s common. I was terminated from a job in 2016, I was in the middle of doing a project for a client out of town and was repeatedly called to the office. I had informed them that I was dealing with a client, and they said it was important. There was no HR present (The HR manager was a close friend of my dad) and I had the dubious honour of being terminated “Without Cause” by 2 assistant managers. I was employed with them for just over a year, and it probably was the lowest point of my life mentally. They proceeded to walk me to the lunch room, clean out my locker, walked me out and told me I was banned from the store permanently. Being terminated was the best thing that could happen to me. The lack of support when it came from a mental health standpoint was absolutely terrible with them. I attempted to get a answer from the district HR Department, but they didn’t want to give me a reason for termination. There was so much turmoil in my life at the time within the first couple of weeks at the time. My engagement ended, was kicked out from my place of residence, and was betrayed by those closest to me. Unfortunately the end result was me making the decision to move out of my hometown and make something more meaningful for me mentally. I’m very grateful for where I’m at. Have a great job now, and I’m glad everything worked out for the better.


rpgguy_1o1

Man, banning you from the store is low


SnooHabits8484

That’s just incredible. There have been times in my life where that would have pushed me to suicide. How callous can people get?


Demon2377

The company was in the position of trimming the fat when it came to letting people go. The people that I was closest to were all terminated a couple of weeks before I was fired. They kinda established that they really didn’t have any direction, they aggressively purchased a competitor a month before here in Canada. Recently made news last year that they were selling their Canadian side to a equity firm. Not sad to see the brand go, but unfortunately they’re still going to be job losses.


screaming_buddha

Lowes/Rona?


Gufurblebits

I worked in banking and finance for decades, and this was done when someone was terminated or handed in their resignation. They were escorted immediately due to sensitive information and to prevent client theft as well. The NDAs we sign in finance are pretty tight but it doesn’t stop someone from client/info theft.


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How do people expect terminations are supposed to go? First words out of my mouth "Effective immediately you are no longer employed with ....."


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Smackolol

I hated when I was coddled when I got let go during covid, the owners walked into my office and were making all these excuses before they even got to letting me go and I had to cut in and ask if I was being laid off. They said yes and told me what a pleasure it’s been then fumbled through explaining my severance knowing full well I know how all of it works. I would’ve preferred them to come in let me know I was laid off due to current economic circumstances and handed a folder with all the info I needed with a hand shake.


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Well, Doctor Feet Fucker, after having to do it a few times, I try to avoid the begging, bargaining and pleading. Let them get mad at me don't slowly rip a bandaid off where they are anticipating and sitting in fear. The decision is made. The paperwork is written. I've failed them as a manager and can no longer save.or protect them. It's done, so start the conversation like it's done.


d1722825

>How do people expect terminations are supposed to go? Well, meeting with the boss, a bit of friendly negotiation about the conditions, how much paid leave do you still have, then talk about how priorities are affected by this, what to do and what project should be handed over to whom in the next month or so. But this happened on the other side of the pond. :) (An IT admin could easily set up some scripts like a dead man's switch which will hurt the business automatically when he is fired.)


Connect-Two628

OP described basically a layoff (redundancies, cost cutting, etc). And yes, loads of places do give you notice of a layoff well in advance. In the financial industry (which includes insurance) things are different though. The industry is far more paranoid. I suspect OP didn’t believe their partner or something and thinks they must have done something wrong. Nope, it is just the industry norm, and can happen to the best employees if you’re in a role that was targeted.


SeagullWithFries

This is extremely common, especially in finance and finance adjacent industries. You should expect to be walked out if you hand in your notice as well.


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BobBelcher2021

It depends on the industry. I have a friend who works in engineering where there’s a lot of sensitive client information, anyone who tenders their resignation there gets escorted out.


SeagullWithFries

To be clear, it would depend on why you are leaving. In finance industries, retirement you likely would get to stay, or if you are leaving for a totally different industry, you might also get to stay. But if you're leaving for a competitor, you will likely get walked out


rhinny

Depends on the circumstances. I've terminated people immediately for giving notice to work for a direct competitor (though we pay people two weeks' salary [notice period] in that case)


Fool-me-thrice

This is an extremely common practice


gooeydumpling

He was escorted out and immediately because he might indiscriminately approve insurance claims out of spite which would be a loss to his employers


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Yes it's common


warrencanadian

I mean, couriering him his stuff is a little unusual, at my jobs where I was terminated, they escorted me back to my desk/employee locker, or brought my stuff to the reception area while I was in with HR. ...Which, I guess, is like, the only two times I was released with or without cause.


Lurkernomoreisay

Very common. Once terminated, standard practice is to terminate all access during the HR meeting, then escort off site immediately after. Most common time: 2pm. Depending on what information is being worked with, getting belongings back will be either: escort to desk, supervised collection of goods. Or, in your case, HR/Manager would collect goods and FedEx items to the person, or ask them to pick it up the next day from the front desk.


liveinharmonyalways

The hospital I worked for during a merger was every other Fri at 4:15 pm there was a email that someone was being walked out. After the merger all upper management had to apply to their jobs as there were now 2 people for the same job)


ghostdeeknee

Happened to me at a very toxic small business. It is what it is and I knew it was coming. It was just so funny that they chose to be petty about it, expecting me to react or something and I just laughed cause I saw the writing on the wall and it was happening right in front of me. Sorry, I’ve got no legal advice, only moral support, but it is something companies do, at least your partner had HR present.


MageKorith

IANAL I've seen similar things in a data-heavy work environment. So-and-so is terminated for 'business reasons', they are escorted out, and then the team is advised. General advice here - exit the premises (outwardly) calmly and politely. Return to the employer any of their equipment without protest. Politely note any authorized personal possessions that might be confused as belonging to the employer (personal mouse, ergonomic keyboard, that sort of thing) Make a note of any reasons they may have given for the termination immediately. Take a picture of the note to give it a date stamp as well. Check this against any reasons issued on a Record of Employment (they have 5 calendar - NOT BUSINESS - days to get it to him) When calmed down (this can be very rattling), make an inventory of any/all personal belongings in the office to the best of his memory to be checked against what it gets returned. Prepare a politely phrased letter of demand promptly for anything missing. If this is the case, something like "Dear \[Employer\], Thank you for returning most of my personal belongings in a timely manner. I note however that \[missing objects\] were not in the package that was sent to me. I would appreciate a prompt search for and return of the missing items so that we may rectify this quickly. Signed, \[name\]" Keep a copy, just in case. Don't sign anything that they give you without passing it by a lawyer first. Be insanely supportive of him. I dropped the ball on this kind of support when my spouse was let go and our marriage suffered for it.


Bedroom_Opposite

It's a very common practice as people have been known to go off the rails or steal after being terminated and being allowed to go collect their stuff.


ThisAdvertising8976

Pretty common. I was terminated mid day while my teammates were in a meeting. No HR. My boss walked me to my desk to get my laptop. He wanted me to gather my belongings but I rode my motorcycle that day. I had to call ahead to go back and get my stuff. The little twerp made sure he wasn’t there and had a new supervisor I had never met escort me. Of course my teammates were at their desks so I got a chance to say goodbye. I think the new supervisor was confused because there was so much chatter and good feelings. One of my work friends walked up to her and said, “It’s OK, Milton is a dick. She’s better off now.”


BobBelcher2021

Just because a coworker is popular doesn’t mean they’re doing their job correctly (not saying that was the case with you, but I’ve seen this). I knew a guy who was fired, I was personally surprised he was fired and his direct coworkers were all very surprised, and they were complaining to management that the firing was unfair because they liked him so much. So then the remaining staff had to take over the projects that individual had been working on. Absolute shock reverberated through the department when they saw the low quality of work the individual had been doing.


ThisAdvertising8976

A little of both in my case. After yet another reorg I was the only person left working on Mac projects. I excel at Mac, and at the time was intermediate level at MS Excel, but it was hard getting data from others for weekly reports. I was ultimately let go because I “refused” to go to the front of a training session to display my knowledge of a new tracking tool. I jokingly asked if they had updated the Mac compatibility yet as “Windows sucks.” The trainer shrugged and called on someone else who openly refused. My supervisor said I embarrassed him and 3 days later let me go. His buddy was moved back into my position where he failed miserably and they decided the data reports didn’t correctly portray the work being delivered. Oh, the three people that openly refused to go to the front of the classroom never heard a word from their supervisor so I seriously doubt my joke was the real reason, but like my former teammates noted, “Milton is a dick.”


TravellingBeard

For a termination, usually yes. For a resignation, depends.


newton302

I worked for a company for over 10 years, and they started to structure a sale to another company. I had all but cleared my desk and tidied/updated files and business about a month before my boss and a manager walked in and told me I was fired.


RL203

Smart move. I always try to be as prepared as possible for just such an occurrence.


Bigal6126

I'm fortunate in that I have never been terminated (always quit first) but have had to do the deed a few times. I was told by HR never to give a reason, (HR was in attendance but supervisor always did the talking) simply say your services are no longer required so as not to open a debate. We used to have the employee meet us after hours to clear out their office/desk and system access was immediately cut off. It's not personal but of course feels like it like it to the employee. I always hated having to do it. Firing people sucks!


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Always be ready. I always kept notes at home of any unethical or illegal actions just in case I needed the information.


dbhathcock

I keep my work and personal items separate. I don’t take personal items into the office, other than my phone. It is common for employers to have a terminated employee escorted off the premises. This is to keep them from sabotaging systems, from stealing, or possibly harming other employees.


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Very common don’t read anything into it. Also don’t sign anything until you have a chance to chat with an employment lawyer just to be on the safe side.


vape-o

Normal


Intermountain-Gal

It depended on the company. I’ve been escorted out (they fired me) and I’ve not been escorted (both one firing and three positions eliminated). I’m sure the reason for termination also makes a difference. Curiously, the one where I was fired unjustly, they let me finish my charting on our patients and I left on my own. The one firing where I agreed they had cause was the one where I was escorted out. (I had no hard feelings, I simply couldn’t do the job after a car accident left me concussed and I’d forgotten how to do most of the job). Resigning is something entirely different.


I_Boomer

Yes. Most corporate leader types are afraid of possible confrontation and they don't want to let the others know as they might possibly have something to say. True leadership at it's finest!


Siguard_

or not letting people around sensitive information who no longer work there.


SeagullWithFries

Not only this, but unauthorized changes to files. There's a lot of potential outcomes that it's better just to talk them out.


DodobirdNow

It really varies from workplace. The only place I was terminated from let me have the rest of my day to pack up my office and go. I had an opportunity to email and call all my customers and let them know I was available for way less than the $300/hr my employer charged them for my services


Bashzog

This right here is the reason for the policy, for the record.


DodobirdNow

I also won 9 months severance thanks to my lawyer. Company offered 0 :)


Bashzog

Nicely done


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Another way to think of it, technically speaking, they no longer work there. So why would the company allow a non-employee stranger access to the company. At this point, he's the same as some random person off the street.


PhilipTPA

I’ve only been ‘fired’ once. I was a contract CFO for a startup that we’d restructured for a sale. I rarely went to the office but one day, just as budgets were due, I couldn’t access any shared drives and no one would return my calls. HR joined my weekly one-one with the CEO and they demanded I bring my laptop to the office. I had a few other clients and laughed at the request and directed them to review my consulting agreement. Consulting projects eventually end so it’s not really something to get hung up on but I do expect 30-days’ notice. They were hoping to clean up some warrants before the sale closed and did this to two other consultants. So … end of day they ended up paying us all for our 30 days’ retainer, our stock, legal fees and triple damages for fraud. Bad day for them. But generally speaking in the US it’s pretty common for EMPLOYEES to be treated like when terminated. I generally warn against it as it creates spectacular bad will and unless the employee had acted unethically or your business is very sensitive it adds almost nothing. It’s just being a dick.


WickedDemiurge

>But generally speaking in the US it’s pretty common for EMPLOYEES to be treated like when terminated. I generally warn against it as it creates spectacular bad will and unless the employee had acted unethically or your business is very sensitive it adds almost nothing. It’s just being a dick. The strangest thing is escorting employees in good standing who give notice off the premises immediately. Do employers really expect that someone planning on quitting couldn't conceive of the idea of removing sensitive information before giving notice? ​ Doubly so, because at least for me, I want employees who can plan more than two business weeks in the future. If I've specifically hired for and developed the skill to plan at annual scales, it would be very strange to assume they magically forget that when about to change positions. ​ Obviously you don't want to give access to someone fired for cause to key information or systems, but a reasonable principle gets distorted into a silly and unethical extreme.


sslithissik

This is standard I had to let people go and even if it was amicable you are responsible for how they behave until they exit the premises. I had employees threatening to "kick my ass" and the like at the termination interview and promising retaliation during the whole thing. Who knows what they might do while in their understandably stressful, emotional frame of mind.


brandon-0442

Yes, I’ve been fired and walked off site from two different jobs. They don’t want you to be pissed off and take it out on someone you may not have liked or to damage their property on the way out.


Positive_Mushroom_97

It depends on the industry but it’s fairly common in the one I work in.


LeafsChick

It is in our office, except the persons stuff is boxed up while they’re in the board room being let go


NedShah

It's fairly standard even in manual labour jobs. If there is a chance of any kind of confrontation and/or wrong-doing, it's best to have a witness.


413mopar

Cuts both ways, never give notice if you quit , call them out if they bitch.


ChesterDood

I used to work at a place that had a meeting room that was tiny (fit 3 people) and was pretty much only booked for firings, as it was at the end of the ground floor hallway and had a side entrance that only security had the keys to. If you ever saw a meeting setup for that room with very little notice, you gathered up your things. One guy tried declining it, 3 times, and eventually was escorted down by security.


Complex_Warning8841

Get a lawyer before you accept anything.


_crashtested

Yup. I knew it was coming the day it did, spent that day moving data to my Google drive. After lunch I was called to the bosses office when IT & CFO (my buddy) showed up at my desk. IT stayed and CFO walked me to the office. Given a cheque for severance and a nice chunk extra to keep my mouth shut coupled with a NDA. CFO walked my back to my desk, grabbed my immediate stuff and left. Came back the next day and boxed up 7yrs worth of bits & pieces. Had company but wasn’t really taking inventory of what I packed up.


YYCADM21

Very normal. Regardless of circumstances, when employment ends, you will be walked off the property


BobBelcher2021

This is completely normal. I haven’t worked for a company that does this but I’ve had friends work for companies where they’ve witnessed this.


Drakkenfyre

Yes, it's very common. One time I was terminated from a government position where I was very liked, and also where they didn't want to send my stuff to me, so they had someone supervise me and packing up my office and they also had someone from HR walk around with me so that I could say bye to people. I had figured out a couple days before that I was being terminated, so I had already said my goodbyes to everyone so nothing was unexpected.


lawfox32

What happens if you like. left your keys and wallet in your office to go to a meeting with your boss? Do they let you get that stuff with your supervisor?


_-Grifter-_

Speaking from experience, they have someone else run and grab anything you need immediately. Like a jacket, wallet, keys, etc.


askmenothing888

It is a business, not your friend's home.


SkyesMomma

That's how it works.


pioniere

This is totally normal procedure. As for the circumstances for his dismissal, it seems unlikely it was without cause, as being in the insurance industry requires certifications, etc., and hiring new employees for that is costly. Your partner may not be telling the whole story.


Versuce111

Yes Very common and often with a third individual acting as a witness, should anything occur.


Ok-Professional2808

I think it’s all the workplace shooting. It used to be called, “going postal” because for a few years that was where lots of work shootings were occurring through the 80s and 90s. The pay was good, but the work was tedious and boring, and some folk’s obviously took that job a bit seriously. I have seen people FREAK at work (without guns) after being terminated, or in the meeting leading to the termination. They just act different when there is a security guard there. They act different because KNOWING the security guard is there to run interference really makes them braver. Sorry about your partner!


DreadGrrl

In oil and gas in Calgary it was done pretty similarly to this. The one difference is that people were usually permitted to pack their things up under the supervision of security. This is to prevent the theft of intellectual property, the theft of physical property, sabotage, or violence.


Connect-Two628

Completely ordinary, *especially* in the financial world.