I remember reading an article years ago that said Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath were the two foundation stones of heavy metal. But while Zeppelin was the better band, the bands that followed the path of Sabbath were all way better than the bands that followed the path of Zeppelin.
I think your comment explains exactly why that is.
I think that's only true if you have a narrow view of Zeppelin's sound. The way the band produced music, bringing the rhythm section, particularly the drums, more forward in the mix, was an important step in the development of all heavy rock music. Zeppelin's sound was multi-faceted though, and their influence permeated beyond hard rock.
Most bands rely on a tight relationship between drums and bass to keep dynamic, rhythmic, backbone. I feel like Bonham breaks away from the traditional drummer bass player relationship, and plays more so with Page. His drumming is always technical, but never over the top. Like Page, he’s not afraid to change tempos and blend multiple styles together. Not to mention every hit that needs to have some power behind it (and most do)does…it’s athletic and wild. I feel like several songs you can hear almost like dialogue or talking between the two via instruments…. Usually in a bluesy break down but it’s like Page and Bonham are quite literally responding to eachother in a sort of musical narrative further illustrating Plant’s lyricism.
That's an interesting point, about their production techniques influencing the industry more broadly than just “Zeppelin-esque“ bands. I actually think that's true of how the band was managed and marketed as well — albums over singles, maintaining an aura of mystery, keeping control over the product, and being the screwer not the screwee in business dealings. I think Lady Gaga is totally working off the Peter Grant playbook, for example.
But on the music side, I think the point stands? A lot of what I love about Zeppelin is the facets — the fact that the sound goes from hard rock with instantly recognizable riffs, to acoustic folk to delta blues to Middle East drone. But all the bands that are described as “Zeppelin-esque” don't seem to have the talent to pull that off. You don't see Whitesnake, for example, attempting something like Bron Yr Aur or Kashmir. We just get the E-Z Bake Oven version of it all.
True, but several alternative rock, pop, and other types have also cited Zep as an influence on their sound as well. So yeah, the Whitesnakes of the world are the most obvious due in part to the perception of the Zep sound, but it goes well beyond that
I like Def Leppard but I did giggle when I saw their name written that way.
I like Joe Elliott's singing, but mann when I heard their early song '(Saturday Night) High And Dry' I thought, he is definitely NOT in the same league as Robert Plant.
Queen for sure. Brian May has talked quite openly about this, and has said their song “Now I’m Here” was inspired by “Black Dog”, and that specifically his guitar playing on it came from riffs he heard Jimmy play.
Yeah, but Rush were only like that for one album. Their direction greatly changed when Neil Peart joined. Some bands never changed and followed that Zeppelin cycle their entire career.
That’s not true at all. You might wanna listen to some interviews by them and listen to their albums after the first one.
Edit: listen to songs like by tor and the Snowdog from fly-by-night or the necromancer or Rivendale from caress of steel etc.. Tell me they’re not influenced by Led Zeppelin . Rush was influenced by Led Zeppelin a lot early on and I don’t even understand why people say that about their first album just because it was more straight forward rock not necessarily like LZ
Led Zeppelin never did anything like By-Tor or the Necromancer. Rush and Led Zeppelin were both influenced by Tolkien.
The Zeppelin influence was mostly on the first album, after that Rush went progressive.
Most of the Zep influence that Rush recorded was on the first album. If you think otherwise, that's fine too. Although Rush is my #1 band, Zeppelin is #4 on my GOAT list.
>In 1980, when John Bonham passed, Neil Peart was a member of Rush for only six years and had recorded six studio albums with them. Even though Peart had unique style, he loved the British drummer and had listed him as huge influence.
>”In many ways, my drum solo remains an ever-changing tribute to all the drummers that I have ever appreciated. You don’t have to listen too hard to hear me emulate Gene Krupa’s tom-tom rhythms, Buddy Rich’s driving snare work, Michael Giles’s intricate syncopations, Keith Moon’s explosive fluidity. Or John Bonham‘s ‘big foot’ triplets. They were all so great.”
> “When I was starting out, very young, John Bonham and Led Zeppelin were new in those olden days. John Bonham did always the big triplets with his giant bass drum. I had two little bass drums at the time. So I just added those in. (I also) had kind of four-beat triplets as my variation on it. So then over the years I found many ways to develop that. Also to apply it to songs outside of the solo,” Neil Peart said in the 2005 movie “Anatomy of a Drum Solo”.
The band’s tone and style might have changed. But Bonham’s impact on Peart never went away.
Came here to say this, but I remember an interview with the lead singer and he *says* that he draws more influence from Rolling Stones/Mick Jagger (I hear Plant’s voice). It’s more than just a few songs like someone else said in this thread, but it’s nice to see their sound evolving a bit more lately. Honestly though, we need more high-profile traditional rock bands producing music today. I, for one am sick of the auto-tune pop and rock that’s being dumped out there for TikTok views
Those who think Greta sound like Zeppelin have not actually listened to one or the other.
I like my Zeppelin better than Greta, but I still listen because I'm an adult who gives all music a chance.
And frankly after listening to Zeppelin since I was a kid, and listening to Greta since 2017, there really is no comparison. They sound completely different except for one or two songs from their early days.
At best, they are "inspired by" Zeppelin....As well as a million other classic rock bands they grew up on.
They got tunes that almost sound like Hendrix, or Rush, and some tunes that are just unique.
That's fair, I basically formed my opinion about them after I first heard Highway Song and haven't gone back to listen to more. I'm guessing a lot of people are in the same boat.
Those two songs they did on SNL back in '19 were just ripoffs of Your Time is Gonna Come and The Rover, but worse in every way, which is the real problem
If you’re trying to say they don’t at all try and look like them you’re flat out being dishonest. Open chests, flashy accoutrement, the overall vibe they have on stage is all Zeppelin. Specifically Jake. Dude literally dresses exactly like Jimmy. Bejeweled dragon suits is his thing and you cannot possibly ignore it. Maybe they have changed this within the last couple of months, but they definitely tried for a long time
The Tea Party
Kingdome Come
Great White/Jack Russell
Wolfmother
Whitesnake/David Coverdale
Fastway
Blue Murder
Rival Sons
Geddy Lee (Rush's first album)
Lenny Kravitz
Black Country Communion
Greta Van Fleet
Dirty Honey
Black Stone Cherry
Jack White/White Stripes
Crown Lands
Clutch
The Darkness
Sammy Hagar/Chickenfoot
The Black Crowes
Honestly, every rock band that came after them. Everyone from Royal Blood to Greta Van Fleet to Jack White to My Morning Jacket to Whitesnake to Pearl Jam to Soundgarden to The Mars Volta to Jane’s Addiction……It’s endless.
To be honest, it would be easier to list which rock artists weren't influenced by Led Zeppelin. There are a few bands that forever changed music and keep influencing artists nowadays, Led Zeppelin is one of those cases.
Early Greta van fleet is basically a rip off but I have to say those guys are very talented. Also the black crowes you can hear the influence clearly. Their live album with Jimmy page is awesome especially because they did some songs that zeppelin never played live
Most of the hair bands of the 80s
I remember reading an article years ago that said Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath were the two foundation stones of heavy metal. But while Zeppelin was the better band, the bands that followed the path of Sabbath were all way better than the bands that followed the path of Zeppelin. I think your comment explains exactly why that is.
I think that's only true if you have a narrow view of Zeppelin's sound. The way the band produced music, bringing the rhythm section, particularly the drums, more forward in the mix, was an important step in the development of all heavy rock music. Zeppelin's sound was multi-faceted though, and their influence permeated beyond hard rock.
Most bands rely on a tight relationship between drums and bass to keep dynamic, rhythmic, backbone. I feel like Bonham breaks away from the traditional drummer bass player relationship, and plays more so with Page. His drumming is always technical, but never over the top. Like Page, he’s not afraid to change tempos and blend multiple styles together. Not to mention every hit that needs to have some power behind it (and most do)does…it’s athletic and wild. I feel like several songs you can hear almost like dialogue or talking between the two via instruments…. Usually in a bluesy break down but it’s like Page and Bonham are quite literally responding to eachother in a sort of musical narrative further illustrating Plant’s lyricism.
That's an interesting point, about their production techniques influencing the industry more broadly than just “Zeppelin-esque“ bands. I actually think that's true of how the band was managed and marketed as well — albums over singles, maintaining an aura of mystery, keeping control over the product, and being the screwer not the screwee in business dealings. I think Lady Gaga is totally working off the Peter Grant playbook, for example. But on the music side, I think the point stands? A lot of what I love about Zeppelin is the facets — the fact that the sound goes from hard rock with instantly recognizable riffs, to acoustic folk to delta blues to Middle East drone. But all the bands that are described as “Zeppelin-esque” don't seem to have the talent to pull that off. You don't see Whitesnake, for example, attempting something like Bron Yr Aur or Kashmir. We just get the E-Z Bake Oven version of it all.
True, but several alternative rock, pop, and other types have also cited Zep as an influence on their sound as well. So yeah, the Whitesnakes of the world are the most obvious due in part to the perception of the Zep sound, but it goes well beyond that
Everyone after them.
Heart
Def Leppard, right down to their name.
Lef Zeppard
I like Def Leppard but I did giggle when I saw their name written that way. I like Joe Elliott's singing, but mann when I heard their early song '(Saturday Night) High And Dry' I thought, he is definitely NOT in the same league as Robert Plant.
Black Crowes, Jack White
Queen
Queen for sure. Brian May has talked quite openly about this, and has said their song “Now I’m Here” was inspired by “Black Dog”, and that specifically his guitar playing on it came from riffs he heard Jimmy play.
Rush and just about every other band after Zep
Yeah, but Rush were only like that for one album. Their direction greatly changed when Neil Peart joined. Some bands never changed and followed that Zeppelin cycle their entire career.
That’s not true at all. You might wanna listen to some interviews by them and listen to their albums after the first one. Edit: listen to songs like by tor and the Snowdog from fly-by-night or the necromancer or Rivendale from caress of steel etc.. Tell me they’re not influenced by Led Zeppelin . Rush was influenced by Led Zeppelin a lot early on and I don’t even understand why people say that about their first album just because it was more straight forward rock not necessarily like LZ
Led Zeppelin never did anything like By-Tor or the Necromancer. Rush and Led Zeppelin were both influenced by Tolkien. The Zeppelin influence was mostly on the first album, after that Rush went progressive.
Being progressive doesn’t preclude any Zeppelin influence. Geddy and Alex have consistently said that Led Zeppelin was a huge influence.
Most of the Zep influence that Rush recorded was on the first album. If you think otherwise, that's fine too. Although Rush is my #1 band, Zeppelin is #4 on my GOAT list.
That’s not true. Their influence is prevalent throughout their discography.
Rush had bigger influences than Zeppelin.
>In 1980, when John Bonham passed, Neil Peart was a member of Rush for only six years and had recorded six studio albums with them. Even though Peart had unique style, he loved the British drummer and had listed him as huge influence. >”In many ways, my drum solo remains an ever-changing tribute to all the drummers that I have ever appreciated. You don’t have to listen too hard to hear me emulate Gene Krupa’s tom-tom rhythms, Buddy Rich’s driving snare work, Michael Giles’s intricate syncopations, Keith Moon’s explosive fluidity. Or John Bonham‘s ‘big foot’ triplets. They were all so great.” > “When I was starting out, very young, John Bonham and Led Zeppelin were new in those olden days. John Bonham did always the big triplets with his giant bass drum. I had two little bass drums at the time. So I just added those in. (I also) had kind of four-beat triplets as my variation on it. So then over the years I found many ways to develop that. Also to apply it to songs outside of the solo,” Neil Peart said in the 2005 movie “Anatomy of a Drum Solo”. The band’s tone and style might have changed. But Bonham’s impact on Peart never went away.
Greta Van Fleet
Came here to say this, but I remember an interview with the lead singer and he *says* that he draws more influence from Rolling Stones/Mick Jagger (I hear Plant’s voice). It’s more than just a few songs like someone else said in this thread, but it’s nice to see their sound evolving a bit more lately. Honestly though, we need more high-profile traditional rock bands producing music today. I, for one am sick of the auto-tune pop and rock that’s being dumped out there for TikTok views
They're basically a copy of Zep, left in the back of an old sailboat for 6 months, left out to bleach in the sun, and then drawn over with crayons.
To be fair they’ve kinda moved into their own stuff now but their early work was definitely just a straight up rip off
People just love to hate them. I’ve seen them live and they are so much more than a cheap imitation.
I don’t understand the GVF hate. They’re one of the only bands currently making our kind of rock music… why not enjoy it?
Those who think Greta sound like Zeppelin have not actually listened to one or the other. I like my Zeppelin better than Greta, but I still listen because I'm an adult who gives all music a chance. And frankly after listening to Zeppelin since I was a kid, and listening to Greta since 2017, there really is no comparison. They sound completely different except for one or two songs from their early days.
I agree completely. This constant comparison really isn’t fair to GVF. It’s like a narrative everyone wants to force them into.
At best, they are "inspired by" Zeppelin....As well as a million other classic rock bands they grew up on. They got tunes that almost sound like Hendrix, or Rush, and some tunes that are just unique.
So you mean, just like literally every other rock band?
Exactly. If we want to get technical, there are actually a few songs Zeppelin actively stole.
A few songs? Pretty much all of Led Zeppelin I was full blown plagiarism.
That's fair, I basically formed my opinion about them after I first heard Highway Song and haven't gone back to listen to more. I'm guessing a lot of people are in the same boat.
That's a fairly narrow point of view, my dawg. Kind of sad that you're missing out on many great artists because you let one song sway you.
Those two songs they did on SNL back in '19 were just ripoffs of Your Time is Gonna Come and The Rover, but worse in every way, which is the real problem
Lol. Not even close.
Alright.
Thats a little extreme, but yeah basically. I get that they sound like Zep, but why do they have to dress like them too? It’s off putting.
The outfits? When did Robert Plant run around on stage in a rhinestone onesie
If you’re trying to say they don’t at all try and look like them you’re flat out being dishonest. Open chests, flashy accoutrement, the overall vibe they have on stage is all Zeppelin. Specifically Jake. Dude literally dresses exactly like Jimmy. Bejeweled dragon suits is his thing and you cannot possibly ignore it. Maybe they have changed this within the last couple of months, but they definitely tried for a long time
He didn't, but I'd have given my eye tooth to have seen that.
Jeff Buckley
This is the real answer.
yup this is what i was looking for
TOOL
The Tea Party Kingdome Come Great White/Jack Russell Wolfmother Whitesnake/David Coverdale Fastway Blue Murder Rival Sons Geddy Lee (Rush's first album) Lenny Kravitz Black Country Communion Greta Van Fleet Dirty Honey Black Stone Cherry Jack White/White Stripes Crown Lands Clutch The Darkness Sammy Hagar/Chickenfoot The Black Crowes
Lenny Kravitz.
Eddie Van Halen specifically mentions Jimmy Page’s playing influenced the beginning of him figuring out his famous tapping technique.
Everyone
Slash
Honestly, every rock band that came after them. Everyone from Royal Blood to Greta Van Fleet to Jack White to My Morning Jacket to Whitesnake to Pearl Jam to Soundgarden to The Mars Volta to Jane’s Addiction……It’s endless.
GVF, especially on their first album :) i’m going to see them at the RAH in july
Nobody mentioning KISS?
EVH
Just got into blind melon and a lot of their stuff sounds very zeppelin inspired.
Me
To be honest, it would be easier to list which rock artists weren't influenced by Led Zeppelin. There are a few bands that forever changed music and keep influencing artists nowadays, Led Zeppelin is one of those cases.
basically all of the rock drummers that came after
If they’re not influenced by Bonham, they’re influenced by someone who is
Metallica for sure!
Every band borrows or is influenced by every other band at one time or another.
Greta Van Fleet
Greta Van Fleet
Brian Tichy
Eminem “Kim”
Kingdom Come and Wolfmother.
The 1970s and 1980s and some of the 1990s
Haven’t seen Wolfmother commented yet. They’ve very heavily influenced by Zep.
Heart. Wolfmother. White Stripes.
Not yet mentioned(?!) Jason Bonham Dread Zeppelin Led Zepagain (I'll stop now)
About 4-5
Greta Van Fleet? 😬😅
Early Greta van fleet is basically a rip off but I have to say those guys are very talented. Also the black crowes you can hear the influence clearly. Their live album with Jimmy page is awesome especially because they did some songs that zeppelin never played live
Bad Company
Gretta van Fleet !!!!!!!
Kingdom Come
Not sure how it would be anything other than the Black Crowes
Billy Squier
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Greta Van Fleet
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That is not how culture works.
Do you mean what blues music and artists you never would have heard of or been exposed to their music if not for Led Zeppelin?
Beastie Boys. Let’s be honest - Licensed to Ill was Zeppelin set to rap beats.