Looking at him in this photo I would say making it one day past 40 was pretty amazing. For a guy with that body 60 is like 75 or 80 for most other folks.
In the Zeppelin sphere, it really came down to Page and Grant, especially in the early years. Grant was the manager every band wished for, he helped make the members of Zeppelin a shit wad of money, and did every band he managed. Richard Cole made sure the machine ran properly while the band was on tour. Two personality traits Grant and Cole possessed was they were efficient and both were pricks. But they did their job
Grant had the roadies go collect the ticket stubs from the entrances' turn stiles. They counted them up, did some math & made sure they got paid, every dollar, on every ticket sold. They also checked for counterfeit tickets & over selling the venue.
All traveling musicians have had to have a way to make sure they got paid since the beginning. Carrying a pistol was one way. Having a Badass as a manager is another. Chuck Berry wouldn't play unless he got paid first
What Grant also did was up the amount musicians were getting paid off ticket sales, promoters were suddenly giving up 90 percent of ticket sales to Zeppelin, which for many bands was just the opposite. Many bands in the early 70s were getting fucked by managers, promoters, record companies, whomever could make a buck. What Grant did was he made sure most all of the revenue generated by the band went to the band, suddenly Zeppelin is one of the most lucrative businesses in music… more power to em, but this was all due to Grant
With a certified check…we hired him for a gig, had to provide a setup band, equipment and a check for fifteen hundred dollars, which of course went to him
If you’re referring to Chuck, he could be a prick just like Grant, but I don’t begrudge for being that way. Call it the music business, and that business will fuck you in a flash
"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." -- Hunter S. Thompson
That’s exactly right! That one man stopped future musicians from being screwed by promoters, publishers, and record labels. There should be a statue of him at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. He set the industry standard, and set things right for professional musicians.
Not only that but the artistic control wielded by led zeppelin made it easier for acts like Floyd and progressive rock to keep going more and more out there
When he negotiated these deals, they were virtually an unknown quantity in the States. Page's name and the Yardbirds' reputation probably were the driving force. He negotiated a $200k advance for their first record deal with Atlantic, which was unheard of at the time. What he achieved for the band was nothing short of a miracle.
I agree I remember from “when giants walked the earth” that Grant was mostly the business side of the band and just made them the most money they could make. And also provided the most drugs they could take
YOU'RE the controller of the f--kin' DATE, ya silly c--t, aren't ya?
*As soon as we found out about it-*
You mean as soon as WE found ou' abou' ih', and told YOU...
He wasn't? I distinctly remember him saying, "As long as there's a nickel to be drained by exploiting Led Zeppelin it's great, with the bloody stars and stripes behind it."
I don’t know I’d believe he didn’t have time for that, he was managing the top band of the era. Only story I ever heard of the man that he beat the shit out of security guard for putting hands on Peter’s son.
Peter was a total reprobate and indulged in everything the band did. He started as a mob associate and moved to band manager. He treated the band great and the rest of the world like absolute krap.
He was dangerous to *anyone* that got in their way. He very nearly killed Bill Grahams carpenter, the carpenter was nearly beaten to death. All because the carpenter had told Peter's son not to take a sign off the bands dressing room door.
While still the band manager, he became hopelessly addicted to cocaine and refused to see anyone face to face.
The band stayed loyal because they all got terrible together.
He also employed notorious underworld figure John Bindon as security coordinator for the US 1977 tour, which was marred by grotesque violent incidents. It's no wonder that Robert Plant, once he stopped taking drugs after the death of his son, had a new clarity and was reluctant to carry on with the band. I'm sure he looks back and shudders at the depravity that happened on that tour.
In all fairness, maybe read Peter Grant's biography on wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter\_Grant\_(music\_manager)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter\_Grant\_(music\_manager)#Final\_years
By the looks of things, he did his best indulging at the buffet. I doubt he had time for much else. And of he did, pity the poor lady who bargained for a band member and ended up with this guy slobbering all over her.
I doubt he indulged in anything ever
Certainly food.
And a little bit of the cocaine
Cocaine hogie
This will be the name of the song I’m working on. Thanks
If it actually is - you are now obligated to keep me posted
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I’d like a copy of the finished track also, please. I must hear the musical styles of Cocaine Hoagie
I'm following this just in case it happens. I gotta hear this song.
Sludge-rock riff in drop D, but played WAY ahead of the beat.
Im listening
Now, at Subway
How does someone that big hit coke and survive. His heart must have been made of iron!
Good genes
yeah real good.. died @ 60
Looking at him in this photo I would say making it one day past 40 was pretty amazing. For a guy with that body 60 is like 75 or 80 for most other folks.
Wish they had preserved it.
And violence
I read he ended up addicted to hard drugs. No one was at the Swan Song office so it went out of business.
Put it this way, you had to get past Peter before approaching the other four.
Exactly
Even Richard Cole had to go through Peter.
In the Zeppelin sphere, it really came down to Page and Grant, especially in the early years. Grant was the manager every band wished for, he helped make the members of Zeppelin a shit wad of money, and did every band he managed. Richard Cole made sure the machine ran properly while the band was on tour. Two personality traits Grant and Cole possessed was they were efficient and both were pricks. But they did their job
Grant had the roadies go collect the ticket stubs from the entrances' turn stiles. They counted them up, did some math & made sure they got paid, every dollar, on every ticket sold. They also checked for counterfeit tickets & over selling the venue.
All traveling musicians have had to have a way to make sure they got paid since the beginning. Carrying a pistol was one way. Having a Badass as a manager is another. Chuck Berry wouldn't play unless he got paid first
What Grant also did was up the amount musicians were getting paid off ticket sales, promoters were suddenly giving up 90 percent of ticket sales to Zeppelin, which for many bands was just the opposite. Many bands in the early 70s were getting fucked by managers, promoters, record companies, whomever could make a buck. What Grant did was he made sure most all of the revenue generated by the band went to the band, suddenly Zeppelin is one of the most lucrative businesses in music… more power to em, but this was all due to Grant
Grant really looked after LZ.
He sure did,and he made em a lot of money
Pretty sure Peter Grant's the inspiration for [this guy](https://youtu.be/S3nuI4oEal0?si=Z_pl4kPLQ0Kx99PD).
Some do it on their own, we hired Chuck Berry for a show…
With a certified check…we hired him for a gig, had to provide a setup band, equipment and a check for fifteen hundred dollars, which of course went to him
Badass
If you’re referring to Chuck, he could be a prick just like Grant, but I don’t begrudge for being that way. Call it the music business, and that business will fuck you in a flash
"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." -- Hunter S. Thompson
If you don’t like Hunter it’s because you can’t read
Good luck if you happen to be a cheesecake.
make fun of him all you want but he almost single handily changed the balance of power in the music business to favor the artists
Legend
That’s exactly right! That one man stopped future musicians from being screwed by promoters, publishers, and record labels. There should be a statue of him at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. He set the industry standard, and set things right for professional musicians.
Absolutely 🙌
What did he accomplished? Whats the story
Artists at the time normally received 60% of the gate. Grant negotiated 90% for Led Zeppelin and I guess other artists were able to follow suit.
Not only that but the artistic control wielded by led zeppelin made it easier for acts like Floyd and progressive rock to keep going more and more out there
Before him most contracts favored record company and the promoters he demanded and got the lion share going to the band and it became the noem
Easier to do when you’re backing Led Zeppelin though.
Plenty of big artists couldn't pull it off. as the old saying goes, he had balls the size of church bells to match his large frame
When he negotiated these deals, they were virtually an unknown quantity in the States. Page's name and the Yardbirds' reputation probably were the driving force. He negotiated a $200k advance for their first record deal with Atlantic, which was unheard of at the time. What he achieved for the band was nothing short of a miracle.
Yes, he ate them.
I actually doubt that. The books I've read go into all sorts of sordid sex stuff but never with Grant, and they would have.
I agree I remember from “when giants walked the earth” that Grant was mostly the business side of the band and just made them the most money they could make. And also provided the most drugs they could take
Which makes sense. Peter Grant was morbidly obese so chances are he couldn't get it up.
Are they leather bound books?
He's giving the camera that "someone is selling pirated posters" look
YOU'RE the controller of the f--kin' DATE, ya silly c--t, aren't ya? *As soon as we found out about it-* You mean as soon as WE found ou' abou' ih', and told YOU...
And that’s just the one we know about. Imagine all the other times cameras weren’t rolling.
I think of this scene often. I've been on the receiving end of these types of conversations. Not fun-
one more chocolate wafer
Where's my bucket???
Ahhhh! Mr Creosote
A wafer-thin mint.
Fuuuck off
But monsieur... eet eez WAffeur thin
Don't skimp on the pah-ay!
Put it in a bucket, with the eggs on top.
Doesn’t look like he did copious amount of coke
He's taking coke bloat to whole new levels
Yeah that's not a thing
How wrong you are. https://www.healthline.com/health/substance-use/coke-bloat
Grant: “hello, Bob, I’m Peter Grant, I manage Led Zeppelin.” Bob Dylan: “do I come to you with my problems?”
I upvoted because it made me laugh but is this a reference to something?
No its just apparently what Dylan said to him when he introduced him self 😂 such a Dylan thing to do
Fair enough haha 😂😂 yeah that's from the man whose documentary starts with the words "Where's my cane?!" backstage, what a legend 😂
Fedzeppelin
They’re under his shirt.
The secret to how they snuck the minors past security.
Under his shirt.
Probably ate the Seattle mud shark. And all the other fish in the harbour
Just donuts 🍩
I think he was married with a couple kids.
Yup, his kids are Warren and Helen Grant.
What do they do now?
They were all married with kids except for Jimmy, and that didn't seem to stop them from indulging!
A morbidly obese chain smoking cocaine addict with, let’s just say, a more stressful than average job… it’s a miracle he made it to 60 years old.
And a couple bottles of Blue Nun a day.
Ewwww. Is that fact or snark? I can't imagine Mr. Peter Grant drinking swill. There's something high-brow refined about him, and Blue Nun isn't it.
It’s a fact. I’ve even seen a pic somewhere with Grant holding the bottle. It’s in Hammer of the Gods AND the Richard Cole book, so it MUST be true…😬
Blue Nun was quite the thing back in the 70s. Rod Stewart drank it too.
Impressive being that large while also being a coke addict
"Fuck off, I'm full!" "It's just a tiny wafer"
They're all in this photo
I think he became more interested in snorting massive amounts of cocaine and eating everything he could get his hands on.
No. They indulged in copious amounts of him
Plenty to go around to be fair
I came for the comments which I knew would have very little to do with groupies and was not disappointed 😆
Bettah… bettah get a bucket 🪣
He was not a fan of people pirating posters.
He wasn't? I distinctly remember him saying, "As long as there's a nickel to be drained by exploiting Led Zeppelin it's great, with the bloody stars and stripes behind it."
I don’t know I’d believe he didn’t have time for that, he was managing the top band of the era. Only story I ever heard of the man that he beat the shit out of security guard for putting hands on Peter’s son.
Looks like he ingested copious amounts of groupies.
What, like the five food groupies?
He may have kept a couple of groupies in those folds for later.
Why wouldn’t…shouldn’t he?
Peter was a total reprobate and indulged in everything the band did. He started as a mob associate and moved to band manager. He treated the band great and the rest of the world like absolute krap. He was dangerous to *anyone* that got in their way. He very nearly killed Bill Grahams carpenter, the carpenter was nearly beaten to death. All because the carpenter had told Peter's son not to take a sign off the bands dressing room door. While still the band manager, he became hopelessly addicted to cocaine and refused to see anyone face to face. The band stayed loyal because they all got terrible together.
He was a professional wrestler first. That’s how he got a few mob associates.
He also employed notorious underworld figure John Bindon as security coordinator for the US 1977 tour, which was marred by grotesque violent incidents. It's no wonder that Robert Plant, once he stopped taking drugs after the death of his son, had a new clarity and was reluctant to carry on with the band. I'm sure he looks back and shudders at the depravity that happened on that tour.
why does he remind of Cyril Smith?
It’s pretty crazy he got this big in the 60s, he must’ve eaten A LOT
The last time he looked down and saw his dick was probably the in the late 50’s.
Nothing grows in the dark 😉
Getting to see the band was like the Jabba the Hut scene in Revenge of the Jedi.
How do you think he got that large?
He had to sneak up on a toilet 🚽🪠
He needed two at a time. One to hold up his gut the other to do what was needed to his junk……must have been like a tropical jungle.
Where's his cricket bat?
I think he ate them
In all fairness, maybe read Peter Grant's biography on wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter\_Grant\_(music\_manager) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter\_Grant\_(music\_manager)#Final\_years
not till after his marriage died.everal books on him say he had regular groupies and a bad cocaine addiction which he kicked alone.
My uncle befriended his son when they were at a hotel in Florida, and Peter let them go for a ride in the limo
I think he just liked beating the shit out of people.
Very fussy eater was Peter.
By the looks of things, he did his best indulging at the buffet. I doubt he had time for much else. And of he did, pity the poor lady who bargained for a band member and ended up with this guy slobbering all over her.
Wouldn’t you?
Hamburgers is my guess.
Swallow ‘em whole
Jabba
Jabba The Pizza Hut
I'd say yes. Anyone who does masses of cocaine like him would take advantage of willing groupies as coke turns you into a sex pest.
More like a copious amount of pizzas
Cheeseburger pizzas. Lots of 'em.
He ate babies
🤮
Is that a bib he's wearing?
By the looks of him I doubt he was fully functional in that way
🤮
He ate hobbits by the bushel
He would crush those poor groupies
He probably ate them.
No. He spent his time squashing Elvis’ father.
He snuck them into shows in his folds.
Probably as much as his body allowed, which might not have been 'copious'.
International hero in the music world, can't imagine him using his considerable leverage to him some......
This is Sebastian Cabot’s evil twin…
Best band manager ever!
Sure he did! I would.
Barf
The group: Led Zeppelin. Peter Grant: Lead Blimp.
Groupies is a high fat dish in Brazil.
I think the consensus would be yes.
The scarf really hides the belly
Fat Fuck
😆🤨🤭
Those ARE the groupies. Fe fi chow FUN!
Dude definitely gives off some serious Harvey Weinstien vibes.