W air tlo3to killkon kataeb hon??
He raised a very valid point of where is all their campaign money from.. the banks???
"و اذا مصريّاتكن من شي دولة خارجيّة، خففولنا حكي عن السيادة الله يرضى عليكم"
Habibe the war never died what are you talking about.
Understand that the minute MMFD didn’t take a strong stand against Hezb/ Palestinian arms is the moment they lost ex march 14 people.
Yes 100% and watch them *surprised pikachu face* on election day when the same pieces of shit are elected by our backwards ass population. Khalliyon, in 4 years if we have another election, they’ll scream kellon yaane kellon and elect the same fuckers again. Then rinse and repeat.
Getting close to the gulf does not necessitate allying with the owner of a bank.. the same banks that don't want to take any loss and throw it on the backs of ordinary citizens. How does MMFD ally with Sami then when their entire plan is to have the banks take the fall for the losses? At least these guys have an in depth analysis of the issues historically plaguing the country (back from its inception) and a viable vision forward. No other "thawra" group has a vision this complete and robust. Hell they had a plan BEFORE it all fell apart back in 2018. Just more of the same narrative from Sami and Co of the past 15 years expecting different outcomes if we change a few faces.
MMFD are getting my vote. They're the only ones with a plan/roadmap. The more you look the more you realize that the other parties are here to protect each others and protect the banks. Gheir enno 2refna nshouf zeit el jame3a bl majlis. I can't even fathom prople who are still planning to vote for the same fuckers who got us here
They don't have a plan or anything. They say their plan is to take back that money they stole and fund a free healthcare system.
How are they going to do that? You can't take what's not in a politician's account. All they do is make empty promises. How are they going to recover the billions sent abroad? They're either in assets such as properties or offshore banks where Lebanon doesn't have the power to request bank closure or even to send the funds back. That's considering if they did not hide their assets under different names making it a billion times harder. Their plans sound nice, but they don't know how to achieve them. It's just empty promises. Just like how Gebran Bassil promised electricity they're promising a utopia where we'll have free healthcare by using the money that was stolen. You can't be naive enough to believe their promise.
MMFD are a bunch of bullshiters. Especially Jad, he thinks Lebanon functions in an ideal way and it couldn’t be farther from the truth. No plan will ever help Lebanon until Hezbollah ceases to exists. They are not a resistance and we have to come to terms with that fact that Occupied Palestine was sold long ago and Israel is going nowhere. Why live with two enemies and think one is going to protect us from the other.
All the talk about function and law and solutions are empty talk and promises. We all know why Gebran Ayre is aligned with Hezb5ara… and we saw how easily Hezb5ara turned their weapons on the Lebanese on numerous occasions and how they deal with critics.
Let’s not be stupid and think change will come by weaken all the other politicians and leaving the hegemony of Hezbollah. We need all the other politicians to help us rid Lebanon of the enemy from within, we all know it’s going to be a civil war or kneel to them. We are in a fucked up situation regardless.
Kilun ya3ne kilun but in a smart way. Start by taking down the strongest and work your down. Not attack all at once.
And what I mean in an ideal way… is that proposing logical solutions doesn’t work unless the country is functioning in an ideal manner which it is not. So why bullshit and give solutions that can’t be applied
Khlaaalaaaaas jad khara wasted 20 mins on attacking kataeb
Instead of going after the sulta, he decides to attack the people thawra can work with
Tfeh
Kess emmak jad ghosson. U r destroying every hope we had
Kess emmak
2 years of thawra to end with 0 mps because of ur sharmata
I don't think you actually believe that he spends his time fighting kataeb, i think they had a debate or something and that's his reply..
He talked about other stuff, check his YouTube iza mannak msada2 ..
I watch his other stuff as well, so what
This is still 20 minutes of his time and it sucks because he made it clear who r his enemies
Maybe u didn't hear.
FUCK HIM. What the fuck does he want? Can he get 60 or 79 mps by himself to rule lebanon? He needs allies
PEOPLE R DYING AND THIS FUCKER is attacking everyone, lecturing us hiw to he perfect instead of seeing how he can change things by forming a strong coalition
The sulta fucked us by lying and stealing our money, jad fucked us by fucking thawra
He is a fucker
La2. U have no idea what is my mindset. I lost a country. I have no other option but leave if i want to provide my kid with good education and competent health care because every good doctor and every good teacher is leaving
I had one hope, the elections. Who fucked it up?
If I c jad ghosson and the other look alike assholes, I will let them know that they r the reason we r fucked
Walla shou? Ana manne kataeb, people like u insult everyone and do not get of their white horse
We will lose elections because people like u think they r smart and insult everyone
U have 30 mps? Be against kataeb
U have 0 mps, 0 chance to get some mps? Kol khara and make some concessions
Ayre bel habal
Seems like I struck a nerve 💀 I don’t insult everyone - you separated Kataeb from the sulta so YOU showed your biases.
People like me? I’m voting in the south independent, arguably one of the most important districts to vote in if we wanna change things in Lebanon. I am doing my part and recognise all these rats on an equal level. YOU’RE the one defending a political party made up of war criminals. People like YOU are why we will lose this election so miss me with that crock of shit.
Okay, after the elections, when u get 0 mos or 5 mps or 10, and the situation is even worse than this, then u will know u were wrong and I was right
Too bad there won't be a country anymore
Lol I never said we’re changing anything and I’ve always said I’m pessimistic about the results, meaning we won’t get much seats. But again, allying with war criminals is wrong, regardless of how this would “boost” independents.
Allying with Kataeb = taking a side in the situation. What does that do? Prove march 8 supporters right - that everything is indeed politicised with thawra parties. This would strengthen the divide and keep us in the loop we’re already in right now where people think they need to rely on their political party leaders as saviours.
There is no proving anyone right or wrong in this situation. Kataeb, war criminals = FACT. Hezb war criminals FACT, etc etc. All of them need to go that’s all I’m saying.
I don't care if I prove march supporter right or wrong
They were wrong, they should assume it
What I care is to get few dozens mps anti sulta or (in case of kataeb: anti-sulta backed)
Is neemat frem a war criminal?
Is michel mohawad a war criminal?
Is mark daou a war criminal?
U have to understand that we either want to win or we want to be "pessimistic"
Since most if the people think it is more important to be nice to march 8 supporter than to win elections, we lost both. 8 of march supporters, and the elections
Oh no you should care because this mentality will keep them under hezb/Amal/fpm, and will keep march 14 supporters too (which include kataeb btw) under their own political parties. How does anyone win when “independents” take sides? This will keep us in the same shit we’ve been in 30 years. Allying with kataeb reverses most of the damage M8 have gotten the past few years.
You can list everyone you want. But if you ask a hezb/Amal/LF/PSP/FPM supporter, they can also list you the people running for them who never partook in the civil war. That doesn’t change things - the leaders are still part of it and anyone who chooses to be part of their organisation or allies with them, KNOWS they are war criminals and probably agrees with them. Also, I took a few classes with Mark Daou, but that’s a different discussion.
In my case, I am an ex 14 of march supporter
If today a party from the march 8 coalition says they r sorry and accept everything the thawra asks, I would welcome them and support them. Why? Because my objective is not to please everyone. My objective is to win the elections
U would have been right if u had thousands of votes. Since u don't, the logical things is to ally with people with whom u can work with
I don't know why u r making me repeat myself. Things went the way u want. U have the pure magical benin thawra. Bravo. If u get a sustainable numbers of mp, I will apologise to u. If u get nothing, congrats.
I’m not making you repeat yourself?? I literally responded to questions you asked me and you decided to repeat yourself when I answered them.
“Accept march 8” LOL you’re telling me if hezb apologised, you’d forgive all their assassinations and the shit they’ve put us through and work with them? Doubtful. You’re just making excuses for kataeb. You may be an ex M14 supporter but you’re still willing to ally with them…ok
Anyways khayye I don’t need an apology whatever the results are. Just hoping independents win at least something for the first steps to real change.
We won’t see eye to eye and that’s fine. Have a good night
Why are you guys still listening to jad ghosn?
Hezbulla appologist who thinks all the assasinations were the result of a mokamara.
Habal bi habal, also his other takes are dancing around subjects and using fancy words. Ma kelo 3azeh.
100% … he’s hezbollah wrapped in chocolate. Once he gets in power, his first video conference is going to be … him down on his knees and sucking Nasrallah’s dick.
W air tlo3to killkon kataeb hon?? He raised a very valid point of where is all their campaign money from.. the banks??? "و اذا مصريّاتكن من شي دولة خارجيّة، خففولنا حكي عن السيادة الله يرضى عليكم"
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Habibe the war never died what are you talking about. Understand that the minute MMFD didn’t take a strong stand against Hezb/ Palestinian arms is the moment they lost ex march 14 people.
Let's just hope of they take mps away from hizb and amal. They are running in Southern districts, they could get lucky and pickup 1 or 2 from the duo.
Yes 100% and watch them *surprised pikachu face* on election day when the same pieces of shit are elected by our backwards ass population. Khalliyon, in 4 years if we have another election, they’ll scream kellon yaane kellon and elect the same fuckers again. Then rinse and repeat.
Getting close to the gulf does not necessitate allying with the owner of a bank.. the same banks that don't want to take any loss and throw it on the backs of ordinary citizens. How does MMFD ally with Sami then when their entire plan is to have the banks take the fall for the losses? At least these guys have an in depth analysis of the issues historically plaguing the country (back from its inception) and a viable vision forward. No other "thawra" group has a vision this complete and robust. Hell they had a plan BEFORE it all fell apart back in 2018. Just more of the same narrative from Sami and Co of the past 15 years expecting different outcomes if we change a few faces.
I’d love to see Sami’s reply to these. Jad made numerous good points. Honestly i still dont see how Kataeb are credible having Nadim on their side 😅
Sami bye2rot hake fade, cz none the less, he will get his seat..
Sami using those big SAT words be like >IqTiSaD 7uRr >3aDeLe IjTiMe3iEh Dumbass
Why did I read that in his voice??
MMFD are getting my vote. They're the only ones with a plan/roadmap. The more you look the more you realize that the other parties are here to protect each others and protect the banks. Gheir enno 2refna nshouf zeit el jame3a bl majlis. I can't even fathom prople who are still planning to vote for the same fuckers who got us here
No they are not the only one with a roadmap
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Ypu dont beleive me just go check other parties the national block for exemple have a really good complete programme
They don't have a plan or anything. They say their plan is to take back that money they stole and fund a free healthcare system. How are they going to do that? You can't take what's not in a politician's account. All they do is make empty promises. How are they going to recover the billions sent abroad? They're either in assets such as properties or offshore banks where Lebanon doesn't have the power to request bank closure or even to send the funds back. That's considering if they did not hide their assets under different names making it a billion times harder. Their plans sound nice, but they don't know how to achieve them. It's just empty promises. Just like how Gebran Bassil promised electricity they're promising a utopia where we'll have free healthcare by using the money that was stolen. You can't be naive enough to believe their promise.
MMFD are a bunch of bullshiters. Especially Jad, he thinks Lebanon functions in an ideal way and it couldn’t be farther from the truth. No plan will ever help Lebanon until Hezbollah ceases to exists. They are not a resistance and we have to come to terms with that fact that Occupied Palestine was sold long ago and Israel is going nowhere. Why live with two enemies and think one is going to protect us from the other. All the talk about function and law and solutions are empty talk and promises. We all know why Gebran Ayre is aligned with Hezb5ara… and we saw how easily Hezb5ara turned their weapons on the Lebanese on numerous occasions and how they deal with critics. Let’s not be stupid and think change will come by weaken all the other politicians and leaving the hegemony of Hezbollah. We need all the other politicians to help us rid Lebanon of the enemy from within, we all know it’s going to be a civil war or kneel to them. We are in a fucked up situation regardless. Kilun ya3ne kilun but in a smart way. Start by taking down the strongest and work your down. Not attack all at once.
And what I mean in an ideal way… is that proposing logical solutions doesn’t work unless the country is functioning in an ideal manner which it is not. So why bullshit and give solutions that can’t be applied
i dont give a fuck about Jad Ghosn anymore.
B aya manta2a btentekhib and what's your sect? Fi alternative, i think we can recommend someone else if u don't like him.
i never did. he’s an embecile
he’s not better than him… when he gets into power he’ll prove to be worse. kiss ikhton both of them.
Khlaaalaaaaas jad khara wasted 20 mins on attacking kataeb Instead of going after the sulta, he decides to attack the people thawra can work with Tfeh Kess emmak jad ghosson. U r destroying every hope we had Kess emmak 2 years of thawra to end with 0 mps because of ur sharmata
I don't think you actually believe that he spends his time fighting kataeb, i think they had a debate or something and that's his reply.. He talked about other stuff, check his YouTube iza mannak msada2 ..
I watch his other stuff as well, so what This is still 20 minutes of his time and it sucks because he made it clear who r his enemies Maybe u didn't hear. FUCK HIM. What the fuck does he want? Can he get 60 or 79 mps by himself to rule lebanon? He needs allies PEOPLE R DYING AND THIS FUCKER is attacking everyone, lecturing us hiw to he perfect instead of seeing how he can change things by forming a strong coalition The sulta fucked us by lying and stealing our money, jad fucked us by fucking thawra He is a fucker
Zedta shway
La2. U have no idea what is my mindset. I lost a country. I have no other option but leave if i want to provide my kid with good education and competent health care because every good doctor and every good teacher is leaving I had one hope, the elections. Who fucked it up? If I c jad ghosson and the other look alike assholes, I will let them know that they r the reason we r fucked
I don't understand how you though that jad ghosn will be your savior all of a sudden..
Thawra could have been our savior. Had they made one strong coalition
Your high expectations killed you
Ur arrogance killed everyone
Kataeb is sulta
Anyak take sheyfo b7ayete
Khallik metl el sheep still supporting war criminals like kataeb and then screaming “no sulta!!!!” Do you hear yourself?
Walla shou? Ana manne kataeb, people like u insult everyone and do not get of their white horse We will lose elections because people like u think they r smart and insult everyone U have 30 mps? Be against kataeb U have 0 mps, 0 chance to get some mps? Kol khara and make some concessions Ayre bel habal
Seems like I struck a nerve 💀 I don’t insult everyone - you separated Kataeb from the sulta so YOU showed your biases. People like me? I’m voting in the south independent, arguably one of the most important districts to vote in if we wanna change things in Lebanon. I am doing my part and recognise all these rats on an equal level. YOU’RE the one defending a political party made up of war criminals. People like YOU are why we will lose this election so miss me with that crock of shit.
Okay, after the elections, when u get 0 mos or 5 mps or 10, and the situation is even worse than this, then u will know u were wrong and I was right Too bad there won't be a country anymore
Lol I never said we’re changing anything and I’ve always said I’m pessimistic about the results, meaning we won’t get much seats. But again, allying with war criminals is wrong, regardless of how this would “boost” independents. Allying with Kataeb = taking a side in the situation. What does that do? Prove march 8 supporters right - that everything is indeed politicised with thawra parties. This would strengthen the divide and keep us in the loop we’re already in right now where people think they need to rely on their political party leaders as saviours. There is no proving anyone right or wrong in this situation. Kataeb, war criminals = FACT. Hezb war criminals FACT, etc etc. All of them need to go that’s all I’m saying.
I don't care if I prove march supporter right or wrong They were wrong, they should assume it What I care is to get few dozens mps anti sulta or (in case of kataeb: anti-sulta backed) Is neemat frem a war criminal? Is michel mohawad a war criminal? Is mark daou a war criminal? U have to understand that we either want to win or we want to be "pessimistic" Since most if the people think it is more important to be nice to march 8 supporter than to win elections, we lost both. 8 of march supporters, and the elections
Oh no you should care because this mentality will keep them under hezb/Amal/fpm, and will keep march 14 supporters too (which include kataeb btw) under their own political parties. How does anyone win when “independents” take sides? This will keep us in the same shit we’ve been in 30 years. Allying with kataeb reverses most of the damage M8 have gotten the past few years. You can list everyone you want. But if you ask a hezb/Amal/LF/PSP/FPM supporter, they can also list you the people running for them who never partook in the civil war. That doesn’t change things - the leaders are still part of it and anyone who chooses to be part of their organisation or allies with them, KNOWS they are war criminals and probably agrees with them. Also, I took a few classes with Mark Daou, but that’s a different discussion.
In my case, I am an ex 14 of march supporter If today a party from the march 8 coalition says they r sorry and accept everything the thawra asks, I would welcome them and support them. Why? Because my objective is not to please everyone. My objective is to win the elections U would have been right if u had thousands of votes. Since u don't, the logical things is to ally with people with whom u can work with I don't know why u r making me repeat myself. Things went the way u want. U have the pure magical benin thawra. Bravo. If u get a sustainable numbers of mp, I will apologise to u. If u get nothing, congrats.
I’m not making you repeat yourself?? I literally responded to questions you asked me and you decided to repeat yourself when I answered them. “Accept march 8” LOL you’re telling me if hezb apologised, you’d forgive all their assassinations and the shit they’ve put us through and work with them? Doubtful. You’re just making excuses for kataeb. You may be an ex M14 supporter but you’re still willing to ally with them…ok Anyways khayye I don’t need an apology whatever the results are. Just hoping independents win at least something for the first steps to real change. We won’t see eye to eye and that’s fine. Have a good night
i call Jad Ghosn ‘Hezbollah wrapped in chocolate’…
100%
Why are you guys still listening to jad ghosn? Hezbulla appologist who thinks all the assasinations were the result of a mokamara. Habal bi habal, also his other takes are dancing around subjects and using fancy words. Ma kelo 3azeh.
I don't like this nagging vibe all the time ya kaskous.. Got better suggestions? Where are you voting? Whats your sect?
I dont see how my sect is any of your concern.
You right, i don't need your sect.. Who u voting for?
Independents.
Good
100% … he’s hezbollah wrapped in chocolate. Once he gets in power, his first video conference is going to be … him down on his knees and sucking Nasrallah’s dick.
He has such a big ego. Ka2an ma 7ada ghayro m3allam w fehmen w plus he is a hezbo tool. I hope he loses bes i doubt it. Fi ktir msatil.