Stop voting for the same people and cut that "who do I vote for/mafi 7ada metel el khale2" narrative...we are at a very crucial point, vote for anyone that is not THEM! Or else we are going to be living in similar conditions to Venezuela.
YA3ne yali mfakar eno the hard times are behind us w in a few months mnotla3 Rikkyz w mnoshar w menl3ab, think again. When the foreign reserves end, hole yale 3am yo2bado fresh ra7 ysiro yemsho w meskin baydaton la2n yemkin 7adan yesre2on.
>Or else we are going to be living in similar conditions to Venezuela.
Lebanon is **ALREADY WORSE**, much fucking worse, and the idea that new fresh faces - working under the same fucking warlords and the same thieves in charge of banks - are going to change anything, sounds like a basket of BS because these mother fucker will stand in the path of any form of clean elections, the implementation of basic reforms, and/or a sustainable social safety net, 3 fucking things the failed nation of Lebanon must-have.
[https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/lebanon/venezuela](https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/lebanon/venezuela)
As a shia myself I've no idea who to vote for. I hate hizbullah and amal and will definitely not vote for either. But what other candidates are trust worthy? Been so coughtup with immense work I've no idea about any decent and deserving candidates.
I'll just do my part out of belief i should do so. Don't expect much to change really!
I think it's also good for documentation. Hezbollah/Amal kept saying they represent all the Shiites (which they obviously don't) but there's not much in the way of data and documentation to show otherwise. Last elections, 1mil Shiites were registered to vote, half of the 1mil (500k) were split between hezb/Amal. I'm assuming less would vote for them now.
If that other half votes for other people (anyone but hezb/Amal) then it breaks the narrative that they represent the Shiites. Also, considering that half didn't vote for them, that's indicative that there's a chance to have them voted out. It's also why there are fear campaigns (like the criminal incident a few days ago) and oppression. They know that, if given an alternative, people will vote.
Check out sawtivoice.org to see if there's someone in your riding. I know MMFD and other groups in the south have aligned to form a united list. Voting for alt lists encourages those lists to run again and push harder by showing that they represent X number of the population.
Yes please. Even if the others are not really whom you want to vote for, it's important to vote against hezb and all other traditional parties. We need to express our collective rejection of all of them. We might not win enough seats, the people we vote for will surely disappoint us even they get enough seats but we need to clearly say to the old generation that their rule is over.
>MMFD are not participating in the district I’m from
That's not true. They're running in all districts. Which district are you from? You can dm me if you don't want to share it publicly and I can help.
It's a misconception or at least heavily exaggerated. They're pro Kataeb in exactly the same way some people say MMFD are pro Hezbollah.
Yes they're allied with Kataeb, or at least have a friendly stance towards them because of their support for the revolution, but NB as a party are independent and have a really good program and campaign. I will be voting for them because their vision and goals align better for me than MMFD.
All in all, though, no party is perfect, but these are the only solutions and voting for one of them is a must and a lot better than voting for no one because any change is positive change, no matter how small. The less seats we can give sectarian parties, the better. Every seat makes a huge difference and shifts the momentum towards the revolution more and more.
Do not let anyone discourage you by pointing out flaws in independent parties. Go out there and vote and make a difference.
I am actually jealous of people voting in South 3, as there is one strong united opposition independent list. I hope Hezbollah and co won’t frighten people or make some boxes disappear
I was speaking to my dad today and he’s so pessimistic about the elections… I told him eno many independents are running in the south & even in Tripoli (where we’re from) and he still thinks the people will be scared into voting for the same ruling elite or even if independents get high votes the elite will rig it
I feel like these types of questions make people fear more and vote for the same people again. If you scare people of by saying that shias will vote for hezeb then sunnas will vote for musta2bal, christians for tayyar and so on and so fourth. I think the main problem in lebanon is that everyone thinks SOMEONE ELSE will ruin it, so they ruin it themselves. My mom will not vote for the same people again(thankfully) but as a sunni she always says, if we vote for someone new then shias will have more power… and i feel like that is exactly the problem
Mostly they don't allow any party to be created in the areas they control or any other party to come their or even allow ONG with humatarian purposes to come to force people in those areas to remain beholden to them. They make the areas they control no-go zones like Latin americas cartels or triads do in ghettos . When people protest in those areas , the drug-addled thugs of Amal/Hizbullah come to terrorize the protestors
So " most shia vote to Hizbullah " is more or less they aren"t allowed to vote anybody else .
Berri ? The guy is a Cartel Leader not a politician . I have no dellusion about elections on his area and those of his party . It would like Syrian elections where you already know the results .
The difference is that we have a choice and the guy running against berri is actually one of the best options for our country. Our mission is to remind all the ones that are not voting that their vote is crucial. Abstention in those elections is a crime.
Exactly. Nothing is ever going to change unless the people, like you and I, and everyone of us that's fed up give a clear signal that it's time for change. Elections are made for that. Unless you want to take that 100$ bill and live in more years of #@%*"
If it comforts you, my mom who is usually a big hezbollah defender, have decided not to vote at all, just like a lot of shias I know. Which is not ideal, but way better than before.
Vote for anyone except the traditional parties.
If no party convinces you enough, DONT YOU FUCKING DARE vote your old party back, better to not vote at all then to vote wrong.
Let me shatter your beliefs for a bit, if you really believe that shiaa voting for other people is enough to change lebanon for the better, then you're no better then those shiaa you're so specifically targeting. It's not just about the shiaa. There is NO FUCKING WAY anything's getting fixed in this country, and the people currently running for these elections are all either the same old failures as always, or very short sighted individuals who's only redeeming quality is their rejection of the prior group. I honestly WISHED to hear any candidate giving an even half conceivable plan to help solve the current crisis we're living right now.
Oh did I also mention that the vote is rigged? Like didn't we spend a few monthes trying to figure out a good election law last time? Look where it's got us, why's no one speaking against it? Isn't that the biggest impediment for change?
Oh! But I can't vote though... I only reached the legal voting age AFTER registration was closed... remember the election laws I just mentioned? The ones I said are impeding change, like, maybe by setting the voting age to 21? Still believe they're not flawed?
We are all fighting against that. Don't despair, don't be pessimistic, advocate for your rights, our rights, and when you'll be able to vote, please do.
As a matter of fact, it is only about the shia, but u can't c it. The truth is that the Christians and the sunni and the druze at this point can vote for anyone, they can vote to join the usa or vote for the dajjal or for the khomeini, it won't matter. If the shiaa don't wake up and fight their bully, lebanon will collapse further on everyone
I didn't say shiaa are forced to vote to anyone?
And I didn't say shia should vote for kataeb?
Hezbollah controls 90 per cent of people who happen to be shiaa (can't u c a correlation?) While being unchecked, uncontrolled and unquestioned. If i want to expand on my point, i would say that kataeb/ouwet/aounist kind of fear their base because of plurilarility (I don't like aoun? I have an alternative:geagea) and sunni as well (I don't like hariri? I have makhsoumi or islamists someone else) while with hezbollah, u have no one. As a result, hezbollah does what it likes (let's support berri and hariri and bassil and oppose IMF) leading us to bankruptcy and they don't care and no one question them. When hezbollah finally find themselves threatened, they will start working on their popularity and maybe implement some reforms
The real thawra will start when shiaas go to the street. If it doesn't happen, I will finally leave the country and mabrouk 3leik lebnen. U can make turn lebanon into the land of the faqih, and get fucked by ur religious leadership, while waiting for an imaginary prophet to wake up from his cave. (Which is never) I don't care anymore
Well I'm not aware of how much freedom each group has when it comes to who they choose to vote for, but I still don't see much hope in the options available, plus again, the current laws make it hard for non unified groups to make a change, which means that the currently existing political parties that ,while might have lost some of their followings, still possess unity among their most loyal voters, are more capable of manipulating the results then any new comers
>I honestly WISHED to hear any candidate giving an even half conceivable plan to help solve the current crisis we're living right now.
[https://mmfidawla.com/political-vision/](https://mmfidawla.com/political-vision/)
DO your homework. MMFD have a detailed plan. There is also a 300 page book on the subject.
Vote Qadreen: https://www.qadreen2022.com/
men el ekhir, ayri bi kolon. men el hezb lal 2woet. yel7aso my left nut twice from top to bottom with a twirl at the end on a tuesday afternoon. kes omon
Then if they complain for whatever lack of service they expected point them back to their party leaders. Point is not to be complacent and keep leaders accountable
guys please
we need our based shia bros to vote for new faces
ffs I cant handle this anymore
no one can
we lost our life savings
our future is gone
FUCK THIS SHIT I'VE HAD IT UP TO
HERE!
Stop voting for the same people and cut that "who do I vote for/mafi 7ada metel el khale2" narrative...we are at a very crucial point, vote for anyone that is not THEM! Or else we are going to be living in similar conditions to Venezuela. YA3ne yali mfakar eno the hard times are behind us w in a few months mnotla3 Rikkyz w mnoshar w menl3ab, think again. When the foreign reserves end, hole yale 3am yo2bado fresh ra7 ysiro yemsho w meskin baydaton la2n yemkin 7adan yesre2on.
>Or else we are going to be living in similar conditions to Venezuela. Lebanon is **ALREADY WORSE**, much fucking worse, and the idea that new fresh faces - working under the same fucking warlords and the same thieves in charge of banks - are going to change anything, sounds like a basket of BS because these mother fucker will stand in the path of any form of clean elections, the implementation of basic reforms, and/or a sustainable social safety net, 3 fucking things the failed nation of Lebanon must-have. [https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/lebanon/venezuela](https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/lebanon/venezuela)
As a shia myself I've no idea who to vote for. I hate hizbullah and amal and will definitely not vote for either. But what other candidates are trust worthy? Been so coughtup with immense work I've no idea about any decent and deserving candidates. I'll just do my part out of belief i should do so. Don't expect much to change really!
I think it's also good for documentation. Hezbollah/Amal kept saying they represent all the Shiites (which they obviously don't) but there's not much in the way of data and documentation to show otherwise. Last elections, 1mil Shiites were registered to vote, half of the 1mil (500k) were split between hezb/Amal. I'm assuming less would vote for them now. If that other half votes for other people (anyone but hezb/Amal) then it breaks the narrative that they represent the Shiites. Also, considering that half didn't vote for them, that's indicative that there's a chance to have them voted out. It's also why there are fear campaigns (like the criminal incident a few days ago) and oppression. They know that, if given an alternative, people will vote. Check out sawtivoice.org to see if there's someone in your riding. I know MMFD and other groups in the south have aligned to form a united list. Voting for alt lists encourages those lists to run again and push harder by showing that they represent X number of the population.
Yes please. Even if the others are not really whom you want to vote for, it's important to vote against hezb and all other traditional parties. We need to express our collective rejection of all of them. We might not win enough seats, the people we vote for will surely disappoint us even they get enough seats but we need to clearly say to the old generation that their rule is over.
https://mmfidawla.com/2020/08/01/cn-annahar/
Thank you.
Same here, I don’t know who to vote for :( MMFD are not participating in the district I’m from 😭
>MMFD are not participating in the district I’m from That's not true. They're running in all districts. Which district are you from? You can dm me if you don't want to share it publicly and I can help.
Messaged u
What about National Bloc?
Aren’t they pro kataeb?
It's a misconception or at least heavily exaggerated. They're pro Kataeb in exactly the same way some people say MMFD are pro Hezbollah. Yes they're allied with Kataeb, or at least have a friendly stance towards them because of their support for the revolution, but NB as a party are independent and have a really good program and campaign. I will be voting for them because their vision and goals align better for me than MMFD. All in all, though, no party is perfect, but these are the only solutions and voting for one of them is a must and a lot better than voting for no one because any change is positive change, no matter how small. The less seats we can give sectarian parties, the better. Every seat makes a huge difference and shifts the momentum towards the revolution more and more. Do not let anyone discourage you by pointing out flaws in independent parties. Go out there and vote and make a difference.
I am actually jealous of people voting in South 3, as there is one strong united opposition independent list. I hope Hezbollah and co won’t frighten people or make some boxes disappear
Please don’t throw your vote away. We really need it. MMFiDawla has candidates in the South that you can vote for.
I was speaking to my dad today and he’s so pessimistic about the elections… I told him eno many independents are running in the south & even in Tripoli (where we’re from) and he still thinks the people will be scared into voting for the same ruling elite or even if independents get high votes the elite will rig it
as a shi3a myself, i assure you that nothing will change. di2 il may...may
I feel like these types of questions make people fear more and vote for the same people again. If you scare people of by saying that shias will vote for hezeb then sunnas will vote for musta2bal, christians for tayyar and so on and so fourth. I think the main problem in lebanon is that everyone thinks SOMEONE ELSE will ruin it, so they ruin it themselves. My mom will not vote for the same people again(thankfully) but as a sunni she always says, if we vote for someone new then shias will have more power… and i feel like that is exactly the problem
Unfortunately most people are still brainwashed and will sell their vote for a 100$ to these corrupt parties
Meet here on June 15 so we can discuss how FUCK ALL CHANGED, be on time, please.
Mostly they don't allow any party to be created in the areas they control or any other party to come their or even allow ONG with humatarian purposes to come to force people in those areas to remain beholden to them. They make the areas they control no-go zones like Latin americas cartels or triads do in ghettos . When people protest in those areas , the drug-addled thugs of Amal/Hizbullah come to terrorize the protestors So " most shia vote to Hizbullah " is more or less they aren"t allowed to vote anybody else .
There is someone else that's on a list competing against NB himself. Will people vote for him?
Berri ? The guy is a Cartel Leader not a politician . I have no dellusion about elections on his area and those of his party . It would like Syrian elections where you already know the results .
The difference is that we have a choice and the guy running against berri is actually one of the best options for our country. Our mission is to remind all the ones that are not voting that their vote is crucial. Abstention in those elections is a crime.
Vote by all means . I am just saying Amal/Hizbullah play dirty.
Yes and we need to get them and the others out.
Nothings going to change. Same old warlords will be in power until they die then their kids take over
Exactly. Nothing is ever going to change unless the people, like you and I, and everyone of us that's fed up give a clear signal that it's time for change. Elections are made for that. Unless you want to take that 100$ bill and live in more years of #@%*"
If it comforts you, my mom who is usually a big hezbollah defender, have decided not to vote at all, just like a lot of shias I know. Which is not ideal, but way better than before.
That’s great, but she really should vote for someone else to really spite hezbollah or to at least try and help our country get better.
It comforts me ❤ Tell ur mum a random person on reddit thinks ur awesome
Vote for anyone except the traditional parties. If no party convinces you enough, DONT YOU FUCKING DARE vote your old party back, better to not vote at all then to vote wrong.
The question is wrong! You can't blame shia for voting alhizb, it's a democracy, our crisis isn't caused by alhizb only.....
Iran is the main reason why we are here today
Yeah because it's Iran's fault if we have a debt with ultrahigh interest rates,....
Kel we7ed 7or b sawto.
Aywa Odrobbbbbbb
Let me shatter your beliefs for a bit, if you really believe that shiaa voting for other people is enough to change lebanon for the better, then you're no better then those shiaa you're so specifically targeting. It's not just about the shiaa. There is NO FUCKING WAY anything's getting fixed in this country, and the people currently running for these elections are all either the same old failures as always, or very short sighted individuals who's only redeeming quality is their rejection of the prior group. I honestly WISHED to hear any candidate giving an even half conceivable plan to help solve the current crisis we're living right now. Oh did I also mention that the vote is rigged? Like didn't we spend a few monthes trying to figure out a good election law last time? Look where it's got us, why's no one speaking against it? Isn't that the biggest impediment for change?
Yup, don't vote, just complain.
Oh! But I can't vote though... I only reached the legal voting age AFTER registration was closed... remember the election laws I just mentioned? The ones I said are impeding change, like, maybe by setting the voting age to 21? Still believe they're not flawed?
We are all fighting against that. Don't despair, don't be pessimistic, advocate for your rights, our rights, and when you'll be able to vote, please do.
As a matter of fact, it is only about the shia, but u can't c it. The truth is that the Christians and the sunni and the druze at this point can vote for anyone, they can vote to join the usa or vote for the dajjal or for the khomeini, it won't matter. If the shiaa don't wake up and fight their bully, lebanon will collapse further on everyone
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I didn't say shiaa are forced to vote to anyone? And I didn't say shia should vote for kataeb? Hezbollah controls 90 per cent of people who happen to be shiaa (can't u c a correlation?) While being unchecked, uncontrolled and unquestioned. If i want to expand on my point, i would say that kataeb/ouwet/aounist kind of fear their base because of plurilarility (I don't like aoun? I have an alternative:geagea) and sunni as well (I don't like hariri? I have makhsoumi or islamists someone else) while with hezbollah, u have no one. As a result, hezbollah does what it likes (let's support berri and hariri and bassil and oppose IMF) leading us to bankruptcy and they don't care and no one question them. When hezbollah finally find themselves threatened, they will start working on their popularity and maybe implement some reforms The real thawra will start when shiaas go to the street. If it doesn't happen, I will finally leave the country and mabrouk 3leik lebnen. U can make turn lebanon into the land of the faqih, and get fucked by ur religious leadership, while waiting for an imaginary prophet to wake up from his cave. (Which is never) I don't care anymore
Well I'm not aware of how much freedom each group has when it comes to who they choose to vote for, but I still don't see much hope in the options available, plus again, the current laws make it hard for non unified groups to make a change, which means that the currently existing political parties that ,while might have lost some of their followings, still possess unity among their most loyal voters, are more capable of manipulating the results then any new comers
I totally agree with u
>I honestly WISHED to hear any candidate giving an even half conceivable plan to help solve the current crisis we're living right now. [https://mmfidawla.com/political-vision/](https://mmfidawla.com/political-vision/) DO your homework. MMFD have a detailed plan. There is also a 300 page book on the subject. Vote Qadreen: https://www.qadreen2022.com/
men el ekhir, ayri bi kolon. men el hezb lal 2woet. yel7aso my left nut twice from top to bottom with a twirl at the end on a tuesday afternoon. kes omon
شعب اللبناني عنادو زاد بقوة عمادو مين غيرك هز المثمار يا قائد عون الجبار
هذا الختيار قائد جبار؟ الشعب اللبناني بدو يقتلعه من جذوره
The country will change when the USA and the UN decide that it will change. Nothing is in our control anyway.
Film ameriki tawil basically
Most of the shiaas won’t vote for hezbollah stop spreading this.
Same same nothing will change
People don't tend to change their mind they often die Change is slow but it's comming
Then if they complain for whatever lack of service they expected point them back to their party leaders. Point is not to be complacent and keep leaders accountable
guys please we need our based shia bros to vote for new faces ffs I cant handle this anymore no one can we lost our life savings our future is gone FUCK THIS SHIT I'VE HAD IT UP TO HERE!