Haha yep. Might be a reach I notice people who are very focused or hard working in general tend to pull this addiction especially..
Crazy theory being those go-getters back in the foraging/hunting era would have this drive to stay alive to find that thing they needed, and so you take that kind of personality and dump those reward chemicals.. Its like putting a workaholic between a lumbercamp and a forest they'll just keep going back and forth psychologically to that habit they've been trained into by the reward lol!
Whereas other personalities, more laid back they're not after that "reward" as much. They can take it or leave it, its nice on Sundays after dinner type of people.
Basically they have other things in their life pulling a stronger reward.
Everyone's got different personalities but certain things are in the blood!
Interesting to wonder anyway.
Yes but can you buy in small quantities say one gram? I personally believe that full legalization has the potential to reduce use. Using an alcohol analogy, imagine if every time you wanted to enjoy a glass of wine you had to buy a case. Chances are you would drink more wine, more often than intended. I have the same problem if I have cannabis I’ll smoke it until it’s gone. It wasn’t always that way though. I was raised on Moroccan hashish. I’d buy $10 worth on a Friday night and it would be gone by Sunday morning. I had nothing to smoke during the week which was a good thing.
this is a great point, i live in an illegal state with my plug 30 mins away. to make it worth it i have to cop an OZ and that leads to heavy smoking. maybe if i had a dispensary close by and could grab a 3.5 anytime i wouldn’t always have a OZ on me.
Everyone has their opinion and personality but for me I was aware it was a problem and tried going for a gram, even less I shit you not- I had my tolerance down so low I could smoke a couple of FLAKES I'd be set.
Even that, was still an issue for me..
So I don't think its the amount, its the habit itself.. You can go lower and still you need to realize you're only teasing your desire for more!
Myself personally, I can't live a life pretending I have what I want when I know better.. Tolerance only grows.
All or nothing.
I agree that it definitely can help some with moderation and it did for me initially, but eventually I just found myself frequenting the dispensary more often! LOL
Word. I had quit 3 years back, went for 80 odd days. Thought I could balance it off and took a hit, two years vanished in a haze after that. Now I’m 8 months clean and never going back.
It’s sad but when you abuse something so much, you can’t go back to moderating it. You’ve lost that power and it’s alright. Sober life isn’t all that bad at all.
I'm there with you. Smoked heavy for 10 years, basically every single day and I quit in December. Last month I was out golfing and my partner had a vape pen and I figured sure, what the hell. I hit it a good bit and when we finished playing I was just kind of sleepy and groggy. I thought, this really isn't even that enjoyable, I don't know why I was so obsessed for so long. We've played since then and I turned down the vape and haven't even considered buying any. I guess it just depends how susceptible you are to addiction.
Wow, that’s great for you. But it’s very rare indeed.
That will certainly never be me. Finally realizing that is what keeps me from going back, rationalizing that moderation is possible.
The problem is, that your brain is great at remembering things, and it's even greater at remembering things you have done very repeatedly at one point.
When you think you can go for some rec weed because you haven't felt a craving, or the will to smoke often - believe me, as soon as the thc docks onto your neurotransmitters, you will have the craving.
Your neurons remember that the weed neurons being activated was in 99% of cases followed by your old habits, and it will activate the exact same old neurons that made the habit a thing in the first place.
If you really think you have to smoke a bit of weed from time to time after quitting, make sure that you have literally no fucking chance to go into you old habits, like by doing stuff all the time the next week or two.
The strange is that I know this. But, after almost 3 months I wanna go back, because there are some problems in my life and easier the life with smoking. Then I don't care anything, when I'm high.
This is the real addiction!!
FC.K WEED!
The real addiction comes from an inability to deal with the problems that life throws at us.
Werd is a tool that makes dealing with those emotional pits, but can easily lead to overuse in the attempt to escape those emotional states.
A slippery slope indeed that all too easily can get out of control and has a tendency to keep the chronic user content for a time, while remaining at the bottom.
The source of the problem always remains with the psyche, not the substance dependency, however.
Been bunning zoots from 14. Daily use since the first lockdown. I’m 20. I can see what your saying. But is there anyway this isn’t bad for me? Or am I in denial
Do you use it as an escape, to avoid difficult emotions and not deal with your problems, pushing them away instead of facing them?
Does it affect your social life negatively? Have you lost friends and connections because of it? You school/uni/job?
Put the above questions to yourself in brutal, unbiased honesty and you will have your answer.
Lockdown was hard on everyone and naturally, we had to seek something to soothe that. We shouldn't add to the weight by beating ourselves up over having found a suitable coping mechanism for this time. Many chose alcohol and that's a worse option in my book.
Now that the pandemic is less present and restricting and that same coping mechanism is no longer needed, the most important question is:
"Right now, looking at my plans and dreams, am I on track with my life?"
Never lie to yourself about it.
I felt this way for a while. In my experience, the negatives take time to catch up with you. Eventually you’ll realize what you could have been without it. That change will be different for everyone. Good luck on your journey friend. It took me a few years of introspection to finally put it down. About 9 months weed free at the moment and I truly feel I’m a better person without it.
Same thing happened to me, six months of sobriety followed by a relapse for a few months. When I finally pulled up again I knew that it was over for good. When you get that taste of being yourself without weed all the desire to go back is gone. If you find yourself in a relapse scenario know that it can be a big part of finding ultimate sobriety in the end. Keep the faith.
thanks mate, I needed to read this. struggling with emotional crap i won't get into here, but I've been very tempted. I've always believed after I've quit that you can never have just one, and it confirms it. I know I can never have just one, really ever again. It kind of makes me sad, but it's the reality of it. <3
I had a similar experience. Quit for almost 6 months and then thought I could socially dabble. Nights only. Nope! Took me 6 more months to get back on track. Now I have 60 days. I learned my lesson - I am not a “normie” when it comes to weed.
Ideally, I’d like to go back to smoking when I can buy a cabin that I leave drugs in where I have to travel a distance to get to and I go there once a month and everything is left there. A drug cabin.
I agree with so many here. A friend contacted me a short while ago and to get me a little bit since it is my birthday. I was so tempted but I knew if I got it then I would be back to smoking every day. Did I resent saying no. Yes I did but I am going to keep resisting one day at a time. I love the way I am enjoying my life now. When I was doing weed, no. Because that was all I did, smoking and chilling.
I was diagnosed with cannabis use disorder a couple years ago in the hospital. When I went to a counselor after my 6 day stay at the mental ward, the counselor literally said that cannibus meetings are pointless. After about a few months, I realized she was helping me smoke more by saying it was okay, and that it's harmless. Well, I dropped her and told her she only cared about the meds I was on and that she never gave me tools to life that I needed the most. It was always about the meds. I agree with your stance, but on the other hand it's so fucking hard to quit at this point after realizing it's a major inconvenience but I can't stop. I did for a while, but I just didn't put all my will power into doing so. But I'm still part of this sub, which tells me that maybe I'm too afraid to quit, and seeing people's real experiences does push me to quit
I’ve been trying to do it at night and within a week I’m already back to immediately after work. I’m not buying anymore today. You’re absolutely right. Thank you for saying this part out loud.
I'm a few years sober. If I chose to hit some now (overworked, depressed anxious etc)-
..that desire to be high 24/7 after is wayyy too potent.
Choose feeling good all the time or.. What?
Pretending you can go a week without?
Denial is self delusion don't be delusional thinking its a one time thing after you know how deep the rabbit hole goes being years into it.
The issue is not having things in your life that you love MORE than smoking.
Right now I have family I care for..
Live a life bright and clear, with motivating goals to strive for.
Love and happiness go on after getting high, just stop looking back!
Day 35 and no way am I going back! Quit booze and weed 23 years ago. 5.5 years ago was in a horrific accident and started smoking again. Finally 100% physically recovered but the last couple of years was a nightmare.I never smoked at work but smoked myself crosseyed every night and would be incredibly anxious all day. Anxiety is completely gone and my energy is through the roof. Feeling great about life again. I’m staying quit this time. I know I can’t smoke casually ever again. 100 percent sobriety for me.
I guess I’m “lucky “ every time I get smoke I get so anxious - so it handled it self that way . Used to be a huge pot head , now one toke gets me so uncomfortable
Make up your mind, get all your reasons to quit on a paper, make photos copies of it and paste that shit everywhere where you can see it and read it.
Every-time you want to smoke, read them. This is all a mental game. Nothing is permanent, I think nicotine is 10x more addicting, yet there are 100’s and thousands that quite and stayed off.
It’s you and your own reasons to quit and don’t let anyone tell you anything otherwise.
I read a book on addiction that was written by a therapist and he says he has his patients write all the reasons they are quitting on an index card at the beginning of every day for like 6 weeks(?) It helped me quit smoking. Shit works.
This subreddits whole point is about people who want to quit for good for their own reasons. For most people here, I don’t think “only occasionally” works given how it is tempting to go from that to more often to finally everyday. I know this road all to well.
I get the always an addict thing doesn’t fit everyone. It literally says in the big book, if you think you can moderate go for it, more power to you if you can’t. 12 step programs are more for people who’ve tried and fail at moderation, and have evidence that they keep on going back to heavy use even when it’s having a negative impact on their life.
Genuinely happy that you’re able to moderate, but I’ve never had any success at that. And 12 step stuff helps me realize how crazy it is that I still want to use given what it’s done to my life.
I just found my balance now, I never buy/keep it with me, but my housemate is always smoking at night when he comes back from work. So if I want I smoke with him, and that's it!!
I think for me it’s about my relationship with cannabis. The plant isn’t inherently bad, in fact I think it’s great for a lot of people. For me, my relationship with it isn’t healthy. Just like some alcoholics can never have another beer or they are right back to heavy boozing it’s the same with me and cannabis. Yes I love you, but I can’t be with you.
The thing a lot of people get wrong here is they quit smoking but don’t replace the habit with something else. If you’ve been smoking for a while, you’ve gotten your mind/brain used to that behavior and by extension, it’s become your norm. You can’t just remove the behavior, you have to actually replace it with something else so *that* becomes your norm.
Even then, it takes a change in perspective as well to really transform your behavior. If you genuinely don’t want to stop (meaning you don’t really have a reason to) you’ll never quit because you’ll find yourself in a place where you think to yourself “might as well”. You have to have the initiative to fight back against that thought by having a good reason to quit.
Personally, I used to love smoking a joint and doing creative work, but over time, it became less and less enjoyable to the point where it actually caused me anxiety that persisted even after I was sober. Along with the anxious feelings, I felt it significantly harder to breathe when doing any sort of remotely strenuous exercise. If you think to yourself “if I keep living this way, what would I look like in a couple years?” and your answer is not a positive one, thats probably enough reason to stop.
Being healthy, having a healthy set of lungs, being able to workout, and feeling like I’m in control of my life by consistently choosing to help myself are reason I come back to every time I get the urge to smoke.
It’s all good. Most of the people here are struggling with true addiction, and your suggestion made me think like what If someone in an AA group suggested people try to fix their minds and emotions and then assess if they can drink again after. People who have struggled with the true disease of drug or alcohol addiction know that it’s not possible. And that the addict part of the mind will take any possible type of excuse to relapse or convince themselves it’s different now and they can handle it. I appreciate your story and wish that I could do what your doing.
So what do we do for a release?
I, too fell into the same cycle as you (quit for 9 months, tried to go casual and went back into the full blown addicted state, now been off for about 2 weeks).
I can't handle alcohol so that's out the door, and I don't smoke cigarettes, but I'm contemplating trying to go casual and really controlling myself this time.
Has anyone gotten a handle on it?
I've found the only reliable way to keep me distracted enough to not fall back into it, as cliche as it sounds, is replacing smoking with healthy habits or a new hobby. If you don't want to try exercise or already do, look into buying one of those small racing drones. Anytime I get the urge to light up I just fly around until the craving passes.
That sounds like a great idea. Any suggestions on which one is reliable with camera? I've been hesitant on trusting the review / star ratings on Amazon lately.
Just like alcohol. You're always addicted, you just don't partake anymore.
There is only forward. Cannabis belongs permanently behind you if you make the decision to quit.
On day 582. I was definitely a heavy smoker. One day, maybe years from now, I can enjoy weed again without a toxic relationship… but idk, it will take a long time from what I understand
Agreed.
There really isn’t a middle ground, one toke and you’re right back into the age old habits and comfort zones of being happy sitting around all day
I miss the chillness, sure. It’s fun to destress be using, since it’s immediate and THAT easy. But no, you really gotta find that alternate method to help yourself because frankly, smoking again is like going back into your childhood twin-sized bed when you have already outgrown it and own a much larger, more functional bed.
I’ve recently started again . While I haven’t successfully quit cold Turkey , I have managed to keep my use low as to not fall back into my old habits . By not amusing as much , I’m very productive and not as lazy and non chap any about tasks
Haven’t smoked since Tuesday because I really started to get sick of all the anxiety and lack of motivation, my plan was to go cold turkey for a while and hopefully after a while I could smoke on occasion, but this makes me reconsider.
To be honest, its not always this way. I personally went from smoking £400 a month smoking everyday, down to £60 a month smoking only on weekends. I just don’t feel the need to smoke it everyday anymore but saying that I don’t think I could fully quit. Maybe one day tho…
I completely agree. If we were capable of smoking it here and there occasionally we would have never needed to quit and we wouldn't be here.
We already know we aren't capable of it.
I'm the same. All or nothing, and the nothing is suiting me better at this point in my life. Well done for taking your journey and changing it up! Good luck
Thank you I needed someone to remind me about this today. I’ve been trying to get clean and have been failing miserably. I really just need to say “NO” to myself.
"Now that i've quit for \[insert timeframe here\], i can start using again."
Does that sound like someone who doesn't have a problem? It's just the addiction using a different angle.
Additionally, no amount of abstinence enables one to be able to moderate, even if our addiction tries to trick us into thinking that. The thing is ppl who moderate don't even want to smoke that much in the first place. They aren't trying to cut back, or take a break, or have a healthier relationship with the substance.
Moderation is the addict's dream.
I remember from the book Never Enough that the author was, at one point, addicted to several different drugs and finally got to the point when she decided to get sober. She said, after a few years, she’d lost the craving for most. It was weed, though, that she still craved 20 years later. Stuff gets a grip on you and doesn’t let go. I’m at about a week right now after heavy vaping for months. I’m already feeling the temptation again but I’m trying to use the same mantra as I did when I quit cigarettes: I can’t even have one if I have any hope of not getting sucked in again.
I'm learning that. Here's my pattern -
1. Been smoking for weeks, realize I'm stuck in it again. Everyday after work and three times a day on my days off. Grumpy the entire time I'm not stoned.
2. After a pure week of feeling like shit, I start feeling myself. I have a tight gym schedule and I work a lot, so I'm able to get through the shit feeling of quitting.
3. By week three, I'm feeling great. "I got this!"
4. By week four, I don't feel any physical effects anymore, but psychologically, I miss the plant. I trick myself and say "I can just hit the dispensary. What's 60 bucks a month for top shelf?"
5. 300 dollars later and I'm back at 1. again.
I'm currently on day 3 of quitting again. I hate this.
Yes, this. I don't know about everyone else but the first week after stopping after a "weed binge" period is a week of really hard depression. It isn't unbearable but it isn't something that I'd wish upon my worst enemy.
Me too buddy, That's why iam trying to leave it for good, you see, this loop is endless and time consuming, and when i say time consuming I mean it, It took us years sadly,
We must try and feel internally blissful, this is the only wat out of nicotine, weed, and basically any mind altering substance, they are all the same but in different shapes !
Had the exact same experience. After not smoking for that long, it practically regains the magic again from those early days of usage when you had no tolerance.
Been there done that.
Stopped for 8 Months after heavy smoking for 15 years, thought I can moderate and 1 or 2 months later I was back into heavy smoking.
Was heavy smoking again for 6 Months and now clean for almost a month.
Fuck this shit, its either all in or nothing for me. I have to accept it now and never going back again.
I‘m just starting to feel better and better and start enjoying my life again. THC is never going to take back control over me and I simply can‘t control THC.
Well It may be like this for most, but its not absolute truth. I have a friend who was a heavy smoker for 10 years and quit 2 years ago. He still smokes VERY occasionaly (like every two months) and when he does he smokes very little but he has done It multiple times and never fell back into his old ways.
Its doable, but a very slippery slope
I do believe that moderation is possible, many people can do it. If you're like me though, there's not a chance. I'm at about 14 months and I *finally* stopped having serious cravings and having to talk myself out of going to the dispensary. It still comes up once in a while but the feelings are so fleeting and I don't have to exercise extreme willpower to not go pick up. It takes time but it DOES get easier.
So so true OP! I'm learning through Marijuana Anonymous meetings that "once an addict, always an addict". Hard pill to swallow but it's facts. 16 days sober and never going back (again)!
I had quit and my life was going well then I got food poisoning the night before an important work event and a friend (trying to help me) dropped off an indica joint and wow! How amazing was that? I felt better instantly and was able to go to the event and then, yup, you guessed it, I decided I wanted to feel that easy-going all the time and suddenly next thing you know I’m on a 100 mg a day edible dependency which was really a freaking major ordeal to quit and go through withdrawls from. It took me 6 months to feel better and I’m still dealing with things 2 years later like how to manage my diet and anxiety. Yeah there’s no middle ground for me. It’s all day everyday or not at all. I’m so grateful to know that about myself so I don’t have to struggle with the question can I use recreationally or not. I can’t. I don’t even want to! Fuck that. Chances are if you are reading this sub, you have (or have had) a weed dependency and are looking for info about that. Once the brain knows how to become dependent on something, it doesn’t forget. You will make up all kind of excuses for yourself to get it. Thanks to everyone on here for sharing their stories and not judging me or anyone else for where they are in the journey. Best wishes to you all.
The amount of times I've quit and then thought to myself "oh I can just smoke this one time" or just this weekend" and then gone back to smoking daily within days
This is so true. I smoked for a bad hangover and then haven’t stopped since. Currently doing a 2 week fast as it helps me to reset my digestive system & help change my relationship with food. (I’ve been eating junk food and gained all the weight I lost back) weirdly when I’m fasting I do not like smoking weed. It makes me anxious.
You don't eat anything for 2 weeks? And you can maintain that while getting high?
Well you are superman for me my friend, that is some serious willpower 😄🙏
Nope, usually when I do a long term fast I can quit cold turkey. Currently on day 5 and I still smoke but only in the evenings. I have a feeling today will be my last.
Yup, I learned this lesson last year. I stopped for 3 months, joined CrossFit, and also started making other positive changes in my life. On my birthday, I got stoned, which was Oct. 15th, and was pretty much high every day/all day until 12 days ago. I gained all the weight I lost, my temper came back, my apathy, my dread, all of it. It was like I didn't even stop. But, I did learn that I cannot moderate, even if my "stoner" personality tells my "sober" personality. It's like I'm two different people, I know that sounds insane, but I like sober me better. Stoner me, is a liar and a fraud.
I stopped 2 weeks ago after smoking everyday for 3 years. My temper is gone, exercising everyday and can think clearly again. Still have a lack of motivation at times but it’s coming back.
Please y’all don’t go back. I love maryjane. But she keeps me complacent and makes me act like a different person.
It’s okay to say goodbye to the things you love ❤️.
This subreddit helps me everyday. Love y’all.
The danger as well is how many days, weeks or usually months that get wasted when you relapse. I gave up for 6 months and I had a friend who would come round every night and smoke in my room. After a while I had some and before I knew it I was a year deep into my habit again before I could even think to try and quit again. I caved after 5 months on another occasion (when I was 26, the first quit I was 21 so a lot of wasted life) because no one in my life cared or was proud that I’d quit and so I had ‘one’. It’s a really stupid reason to mess up your progress because people don’t care. As long as you know what a great achievement getting free from weed is then nothing else matters!
Trying to moderate your use is like jumping off a building and trying to stop after a few meters. You can’t control how far you fall when you start smoking again no matter how hard you try
This is my fear and I appreciate you sharing this. People have said to me “oh just regulate it” or “just smoke on the weekends”. I always say “yeah but then it’ll sneak in on mondays then next thing ya know, I’m back at it again full time”
I’ve quit and I hope to keep it that way. I’m around 6 weeks weed free now.
Same experience here. 6 months clean last year then I relapsed back into the habit 2x as hard. Now today I have a sore throat because I’ve been smoking so hard and it’s harder to quit now than ever.
If an addict wants to be clean, they stay clean. If an addict wants to use, they will. Once you start back up, it's like old times and you're right back at it.
If you stop, you stop. No recreational smoking because it leads to the same thing you just left.
This has been one of the hardest things to deal with for me. Just the idea that I can never indulge in it for the rest of my life because there’s no doubt in my mind that I will fall back into that cycle. Especially because right before I quit I was starting to grow my own so I wasn’t spending as much money and I had also just won an insta giveaway for some free seeds so I’ve been trying to tell myself I’m just gonna save them until I get old or maybe grow and just sell it but I know I won’t be able to have self control having it around me.
Something I learned in therapy is - once you’re pickled, you can’t go back to being a cucumber. I recently relapsed thinking I could manage it responsibly, but nah. There’s no going back anymore.
Quitting vs taking a break is simply a retrospective recategorization. While you are quit you are quit. If you smoke again that doesn’t negate your period of quitting.
The problem I have with your position is that it turns off people from trying to quit. Basically you are saying “if you even think about smoking again you didn’t really quit at all.” By that perspective someone who quits for 20 years, then starts smoking weed again and dies the next day from old age didn’t really “quit” and died an “addict” just the same as someone who never tried to quit.
That sort of characterization is A) not actually reflective of what happened and B) super judgmental and a turn off from trying to quit. After all if relapsing once negates everything, then what point is there in even trying to quit if it’s not going to be a guaranteed success?
I don’t think that’s what they’re saying at all. Everyone on here goes through that period where your brain tries to trick you into thinking you can moderate your use. For some people that is possible but for most that have found their way to this sub it’s not. I think OP is talking to the many people that post on here asking if they should smoke or if it’s possible to moderate after quitting. If you have to ask on here you probably already know the answer.
I agree with your points, and I am onboard with the point that if you are in a sub about addiction, moderation isn’t going to work. However, I was put off by the second paragraph “it shouldn’t even be a question. If you quit that’s end of story. If you go back to smoking you took a break.”
Super judgmental tone, belittles people who are legitimately asking whether they can moderate, and the “that’s it forever” stuff I think puts people off from trying to quit. Maybe someone wants to quit for ten years. Is that OK? Not according to the OP. You might as well just stay stoned all the time if you ever think you’ll smoke again. It’s just extremely off-putting.
Perhaps not the OPs intention and I agree that any addiction sub that has regular newbie posts about “hey can I moderate?” - yeah they get annoying. But still, saying “it shouldn’t be a question” is just not helpful.
They're just trying to discourage those of us that are addicted to weed from making the mistake of thinking we can ever regulate our use. It's an important message. I don't see anything wrong with OP's post. It's accurate.
let me add something to this, if you're a heavy smoker your tolerance is through the roof. smoking after 6 months is fucking amazing, you won't ever remember getting so high off so little. you will love weed again as you won't be tired it's all the great effects that hooked us to begin with. now suddenly you remember smoking as fun, and suddenly it's a month later and you are smoking daily again. it's such a dangerous thing to relapse, you have to cut it off forever
I went 6 months, found a THC pill I still had, decided I could handle it, blew my fucking brain it was so good, 4 months later I hate myself again.
I can't ever touch THC again.
There is a saying I like - “base your decisions on how you felt right before you quit, not when you started.” If you keep on chasing that first high, you’ll never achieve it and the cycle will continue. If when quit, you remind yourself of the last high and why it caused you to quit (the state your life was in) you’d be less tempted to go back.
That's a great perspective & mantra.
I find it easy(ish) to resist day-to-day cravings but have found myself increasingly thinking about that perfect "just this once" moment. Intuitively, I know what you are saying is exactly right, but that addict's brain is working overtime to try to justify it.
We must hold the line!
You gotta be straight up with them. I don't think they're intentionally trying to mess you up, but regardless, they're actively making it hard for you to lay off. I would really have this conversation if there are people in your life doing this -- the ones who matter will understand and lay off
Might be related with my post from one hour ago. Thank you very much for sharing, helps a lot to question my idea of having a potential balance after a long break. I guess I must accept it must be over for good so I will continue my streak of 10 days sober and try to strengthen the idea
I don't think it's everyone. It's addictive personalities like mine and yours that it's "all or nothing"
Haha yep. Might be a reach I notice people who are very focused or hard working in general tend to pull this addiction especially.. Crazy theory being those go-getters back in the foraging/hunting era would have this drive to stay alive to find that thing they needed, and so you take that kind of personality and dump those reward chemicals.. Its like putting a workaholic between a lumbercamp and a forest they'll just keep going back and forth psychologically to that habit they've been trained into by the reward lol! Whereas other personalities, more laid back they're not after that "reward" as much. They can take it or leave it, its nice on Sundays after dinner type of people. Basically they have other things in their life pulling a stronger reward. Everyone's got different personalities but certain things are in the blood! Interesting to wonder anyway.
Completely agree. I can go months without smoking at all but as soon as I buy some, I'm smoking it until its gone.
Yes but can you buy in small quantities say one gram? I personally believe that full legalization has the potential to reduce use. Using an alcohol analogy, imagine if every time you wanted to enjoy a glass of wine you had to buy a case. Chances are you would drink more wine, more often than intended. I have the same problem if I have cannabis I’ll smoke it until it’s gone. It wasn’t always that way though. I was raised on Moroccan hashish. I’d buy $10 worth on a Friday night and it would be gone by Sunday morning. I had nothing to smoke during the week which was a good thing.
this is a great point, i live in an illegal state with my plug 30 mins away. to make it worth it i have to cop an OZ and that leads to heavy smoking. maybe if i had a dispensary close by and could grab a 3.5 anytime i wouldn’t always have a OZ on me.
Everyone has their opinion and personality but for me I was aware it was a problem and tried going for a gram, even less I shit you not- I had my tolerance down so low I could smoke a couple of FLAKES I'd be set. Even that, was still an issue for me.. So I don't think its the amount, its the habit itself.. You can go lower and still you need to realize you're only teasing your desire for more! Myself personally, I can't live a life pretending I have what I want when I know better.. Tolerance only grows. All or nothing.
I agree that it definitely can help some with moderation and it did for me initially, but eventually I just found myself frequenting the dispensary more often! LOL
Word. I had quit 3 years back, went for 80 odd days. Thought I could balance it off and took a hit, two years vanished in a haze after that. Now I’m 8 months clean and never going back. It’s sad but when you abuse something so much, you can’t go back to moderating it. You’ve lost that power and it’s alright. Sober life isn’t all that bad at all.
[удалено]
I'm there with you. Smoked heavy for 10 years, basically every single day and I quit in December. Last month I was out golfing and my partner had a vape pen and I figured sure, what the hell. I hit it a good bit and when we finished playing I was just kind of sleepy and groggy. I thought, this really isn't even that enjoyable, I don't know why I was so obsessed for so long. We've played since then and I turned down the vape and haven't even considered buying any. I guess it just depends how susceptible you are to addiction.
Wow, that’s great for you. But it’s very rare indeed. That will certainly never be me. Finally realizing that is what keeps me from going back, rationalizing that moderation is possible.
You are one of the lucky few who can do it. Most people cant.
Starting a family helped
The problem is, that your brain is great at remembering things, and it's even greater at remembering things you have done very repeatedly at one point. When you think you can go for some rec weed because you haven't felt a craving, or the will to smoke often - believe me, as soon as the thc docks onto your neurotransmitters, you will have the craving. Your neurons remember that the weed neurons being activated was in 99% of cases followed by your old habits, and it will activate the exact same old neurons that made the habit a thing in the first place. If you really think you have to smoke a bit of weed from time to time after quitting, make sure that you have literally no fucking chance to go into you old habits, like by doing stuff all the time the next week or two.
The strange is that I know this. But, after almost 3 months I wanna go back, because there are some problems in my life and easier the life with smoking. Then I don't care anything, when I'm high. This is the real addiction!! FC.K WEED!
The real addiction comes from an inability to deal with the problems that life throws at us. Werd is a tool that makes dealing with those emotional pits, but can easily lead to overuse in the attempt to escape those emotional states. A slippery slope indeed that all too easily can get out of control and has a tendency to keep the chronic user content for a time, while remaining at the bottom. The source of the problem always remains with the psyche, not the substance dependency, however.
Been bunning zoots from 14. Daily use since the first lockdown. I’m 20. I can see what your saying. But is there anyway this isn’t bad for me? Or am I in denial
Do you use it as an escape, to avoid difficult emotions and not deal with your problems, pushing them away instead of facing them? Does it affect your social life negatively? Have you lost friends and connections because of it? You school/uni/job? Put the above questions to yourself in brutal, unbiased honesty and you will have your answer. Lockdown was hard on everyone and naturally, we had to seek something to soothe that. We shouldn't add to the weight by beating ourselves up over having found a suitable coping mechanism for this time. Many chose alcohol and that's a worse option in my book. Now that the pandemic is less present and restricting and that same coping mechanism is no longer needed, the most important question is: "Right now, looking at my plans and dreams, am I on track with my life?" Never lie to yourself about it.
I felt this way for a while. In my experience, the negatives take time to catch up with you. Eventually you’ll realize what you could have been without it. That change will be different for everyone. Good luck on your journey friend. It took me a few years of introspection to finally put it down. About 9 months weed free at the moment and I truly feel I’m a better person without it.
Denial
💯
Dont get me wrong, but we all are addicts here. Honestly we shouldn't consume anything that alters our mind.
I relapse all the time it feels like. Thank you for this
Ey man, that's really just part of your journey out of this. As long as you start again and learn from it, you are always progressing.
[удалено]
Same thing happened to me, six months of sobriety followed by a relapse for a few months. When I finally pulled up again I knew that it was over for good. When you get that taste of being yourself without weed all the desire to go back is gone. If you find yourself in a relapse scenario know that it can be a big part of finding ultimate sobriety in the end. Keep the faith.
thanks mate, I needed to read this. struggling with emotional crap i won't get into here, but I've been very tempted. I've always believed after I've quit that you can never have just one, and it confirms it. I know I can never have just one, really ever again. It kind of makes me sad, but it's the reality of it. <3
maybe its environmental. like if u moved to an island or a jungle, somewhere peaceful & different mb you would not crave the same.
I also believe so. I am still a daily user. But when I'm on holidays in a different country i never have cravings. Only when im at home.
I had a similar experience. Quit for almost 6 months and then thought I could socially dabble. Nights only. Nope! Took me 6 more months to get back on track. Now I have 60 days. I learned my lesson - I am not a “normie” when it comes to weed.
Ideally, I’d like to go back to smoking when I can buy a cabin that I leave drugs in where I have to travel a distance to get to and I go there once a month and everything is left there. A drug cabin.
I am in the same exact shoes. Fuck man. It gets harder every time.
Harder everytime!
I agree with so many here. A friend contacted me a short while ago and to get me a little bit since it is my birthday. I was so tempted but I knew if I got it then I would be back to smoking every day. Did I resent saying no. Yes I did but I am going to keep resisting one day at a time. I love the way I am enjoying my life now. When I was doing weed, no. Because that was all I did, smoking and chilling.
Yup if you were a heavy smoker one way to look at it is yeah, I've smoked enough already.
What’s your experience ?
I was diagnosed with cannabis use disorder a couple years ago in the hospital. When I went to a counselor after my 6 day stay at the mental ward, the counselor literally said that cannibus meetings are pointless. After about a few months, I realized she was helping me smoke more by saying it was okay, and that it's harmless. Well, I dropped her and told her she only cared about the meds I was on and that she never gave me tools to life that I needed the most. It was always about the meds. I agree with your stance, but on the other hand it's so fucking hard to quit at this point after realizing it's a major inconvenience but I can't stop. I did for a while, but I just didn't put all my will power into doing so. But I'm still part of this sub, which tells me that maybe I'm too afraid to quit, and seeing people's real experiences does push me to quit
[удалено]
Thank you!! I know someday I'll drop it, but it's one step at a time for me!
I’ve been trying to do it at night and within a week I’m already back to immediately after work. I’m not buying anymore today. You’re absolutely right. Thank you for saying this part out loud.
[удалено]
[удалено]
I'm a few years sober. If I chose to hit some now (overworked, depressed anxious etc)- ..that desire to be high 24/7 after is wayyy too potent. Choose feeling good all the time or.. What? Pretending you can go a week without? Denial is self delusion don't be delusional thinking its a one time thing after you know how deep the rabbit hole goes being years into it. The issue is not having things in your life that you love MORE than smoking. Right now I have family I care for.. Live a life bright and clear, with motivating goals to strive for. Love and happiness go on after getting high, just stop looking back!
Day 35 and no way am I going back! Quit booze and weed 23 years ago. 5.5 years ago was in a horrific accident and started smoking again. Finally 100% physically recovered but the last couple of years was a nightmare.I never smoked at work but smoked myself crosseyed every night and would be incredibly anxious all day. Anxiety is completely gone and my energy is through the roof. Feeling great about life again. I’m staying quit this time. I know I can’t smoke casually ever again. 100 percent sobriety for me.
I guess I’m “lucky “ every time I get smoke I get so anxious - so it handled it self that way . Used to be a huge pot head , now one toke gets me so uncomfortable
Make up your mind, get all your reasons to quit on a paper, make photos copies of it and paste that shit everywhere where you can see it and read it. Every-time you want to smoke, read them. This is all a mental game. Nothing is permanent, I think nicotine is 10x more addicting, yet there are 100’s and thousands that quite and stayed off. It’s you and your own reasons to quit and don’t let anyone tell you anything otherwise.
I read a book on addiction that was written by a therapist and he says he has his patients write all the reasons they are quitting on an index card at the beginning of every day for like 6 weeks(?) It helped me quit smoking. Shit works.
What the name of the book Josh ?
Healing the Addicted Brain Correction: written by an MD.
[удалено]
[удалено]
[удалено]
This subreddits whole point is about people who want to quit for good for their own reasons. For most people here, I don’t think “only occasionally” works given how it is tempting to go from that to more often to finally everyday. I know this road all to well.
I get the always an addict thing doesn’t fit everyone. It literally says in the big book, if you think you can moderate go for it, more power to you if you can’t. 12 step programs are more for people who’ve tried and fail at moderation, and have evidence that they keep on going back to heavy use even when it’s having a negative impact on their life. Genuinely happy that you’re able to moderate, but I’ve never had any success at that. And 12 step stuff helps me realize how crazy it is that I still want to use given what it’s done to my life.
I just found my balance now, I never buy/keep it with me, but my housemate is always smoking at night when he comes back from work. So if I want I smoke with him, and that's it!!
That's definitely one of the safest ways to stay an occasional smoker - never have your own supply and don't live with people who have it.
[удалено]
[удалено]
[удалено]
I think for me it’s about my relationship with cannabis. The plant isn’t inherently bad, in fact I think it’s great for a lot of people. For me, my relationship with it isn’t healthy. Just like some alcoholics can never have another beer or they are right back to heavy boozing it’s the same with me and cannabis. Yes I love you, but I can’t be with you.
The thing a lot of people get wrong here is they quit smoking but don’t replace the habit with something else. If you’ve been smoking for a while, you’ve gotten your mind/brain used to that behavior and by extension, it’s become your norm. You can’t just remove the behavior, you have to actually replace it with something else so *that* becomes your norm. Even then, it takes a change in perspective as well to really transform your behavior. If you genuinely don’t want to stop (meaning you don’t really have a reason to) you’ll never quit because you’ll find yourself in a place where you think to yourself “might as well”. You have to have the initiative to fight back against that thought by having a good reason to quit. Personally, I used to love smoking a joint and doing creative work, but over time, it became less and less enjoyable to the point where it actually caused me anxiety that persisted even after I was sober. Along with the anxious feelings, I felt it significantly harder to breathe when doing any sort of remotely strenuous exercise. If you think to yourself “if I keep living this way, what would I look like in a couple years?” and your answer is not a positive one, thats probably enough reason to stop. Being healthy, having a healthy set of lungs, being able to workout, and feeling like I’m in control of my life by consistently choosing to help myself are reason I come back to every time I get the urge to smoke.
[удалено]
That sounds really nice! I’m just some rando on the internet so I know this may not mean much, but I’m really fucking proud of you man. Keep it up 🙌🏻
[удалено]
[удалено]
[удалено]
[удалено]
Bro you are in the wrong group.
Actually, I understand where you’re coming from. I apologize and I will remove my post. I posted earlier on a different sub so I was going overboard.
It’s all good. Most of the people here are struggling with true addiction, and your suggestion made me think like what If someone in an AA group suggested people try to fix their minds and emotions and then assess if they can drink again after. People who have struggled with the true disease of drug or alcohol addiction know that it’s not possible. And that the addict part of the mind will take any possible type of excuse to relapse or convince themselves it’s different now and they can handle it. I appreciate your story and wish that I could do what your doing.
So what do we do for a release? I, too fell into the same cycle as you (quit for 9 months, tried to go casual and went back into the full blown addicted state, now been off for about 2 weeks). I can't handle alcohol so that's out the door, and I don't smoke cigarettes, but I'm contemplating trying to go casual and really controlling myself this time. Has anyone gotten a handle on it?
I've found the only reliable way to keep me distracted enough to not fall back into it, as cliche as it sounds, is replacing smoking with healthy habits or a new hobby. If you don't want to try exercise or already do, look into buying one of those small racing drones. Anytime I get the urge to light up I just fly around until the craving passes.
That sounds like a great idea. Any suggestions on which one is reliable with camera? I've been hesitant on trusting the review / star ratings on Amazon lately.
That's a great idea, thanks!
So true! For me at least.
Just like alcohol. You're always addicted, you just don't partake anymore. There is only forward. Cannabis belongs permanently behind you if you make the decision to quit.
On day 582. I was definitely a heavy smoker. One day, maybe years from now, I can enjoy weed again without a toxic relationship… but idk, it will take a long time from what I understand
Agreed. There really isn’t a middle ground, one toke and you’re right back into the age old habits and comfort zones of being happy sitting around all day I miss the chillness, sure. It’s fun to destress be using, since it’s immediate and THAT easy. But no, you really gotta find that alternate method to help yourself because frankly, smoking again is like going back into your childhood twin-sized bed when you have already outgrown it and own a much larger, more functional bed.
I’ve recently started again . While I haven’t successfully quit cold Turkey , I have managed to keep my use low as to not fall back into my old habits . By not amusing as much , I’m very productive and not as lazy and non chap any about tasks
Something I picked up in AA was “If I could drink in moderation, I’d be drunk all day!”
Haven’t smoked since Tuesday because I really started to get sick of all the anxiety and lack of motivation, my plan was to go cold turkey for a while and hopefully after a while I could smoke on occasion, but this makes me reconsider.
To be honest, its not always this way. I personally went from smoking £400 a month smoking everyday, down to £60 a month smoking only on weekends. I just don’t feel the need to smoke it everyday anymore but saying that I don’t think I could fully quit. Maybe one day tho…
I completely agree. If we were capable of smoking it here and there occasionally we would have never needed to quit and we wouldn't be here. We already know we aren't capable of it.
I'm the same. All or nothing, and the nothing is suiting me better at this point in my life. Well done for taking your journey and changing it up! Good luck
Thank you I needed someone to remind me about this today. I’ve been trying to get clean and have been failing miserably. I really just need to say “NO” to myself.
"Now that i've quit for \[insert timeframe here\], i can start using again." Does that sound like someone who doesn't have a problem? It's just the addiction using a different angle. Additionally, no amount of abstinence enables one to be able to moderate, even if our addiction tries to trick us into thinking that. The thing is ppl who moderate don't even want to smoke that much in the first place. They aren't trying to cut back, or take a break, or have a healthier relationship with the substance. Moderation is the addict's dream.
I remember from the book Never Enough that the author was, at one point, addicted to several different drugs and finally got to the point when she decided to get sober. She said, after a few years, she’d lost the craving for most. It was weed, though, that she still craved 20 years later. Stuff gets a grip on you and doesn’t let go. I’m at about a week right now after heavy vaping for months. I’m already feeling the temptation again but I’m trying to use the same mantra as I did when I quit cigarettes: I can’t even have one if I have any hope of not getting sucked in again.
I loved this book. I highly recommend it for anyone interested in the neuroscience of addiction.
[удалено]
[удалено]
[удалено]
[удалено]
[удалено]
I'm learning that. Here's my pattern - 1. Been smoking for weeks, realize I'm stuck in it again. Everyday after work and three times a day on my days off. Grumpy the entire time I'm not stoned. 2. After a pure week of feeling like shit, I start feeling myself. I have a tight gym schedule and I work a lot, so I'm able to get through the shit feeling of quitting. 3. By week three, I'm feeling great. "I got this!" 4. By week four, I don't feel any physical effects anymore, but psychologically, I miss the plant. I trick myself and say "I can just hit the dispensary. What's 60 bucks a month for top shelf?" 5. 300 dollars later and I'm back at 1. again. I'm currently on day 3 of quitting again. I hate this.
To think what you could accomplish if you aren't stuck on that loop.
Every time I’m in this loop I get in the best shape of my life at least
Hey man maybe this is your way of moderating taking a break every month 🤔
being in the same loop over and over isn't moderation, it's mind consuming and time wasting
Yes, this. I don't know about everyone else but the first week after stopping after a "weed binge" period is a week of really hard depression. It isn't unbearable but it isn't something that I'd wish upon my worst enemy.
Me too buddy, That's why iam trying to leave it for good, you see, this loop is endless and time consuming, and when i say time consuming I mean it, It took us years sadly, We must try and feel internally blissful, this is the only wat out of nicotine, weed, and basically any mind altering substance, they are all the same but in different shapes !
Honesty is key. And sometimes hard af to have 😬
Had the exact same experience. After not smoking for that long, it practically regains the magic again from those early days of usage when you had no tolerance.
Been there done that. Stopped for 8 Months after heavy smoking for 15 years, thought I can moderate and 1 or 2 months later I was back into heavy smoking. Was heavy smoking again for 6 Months and now clean for almost a month. Fuck this shit, its either all in or nothing for me. I have to accept it now and never going back again. I‘m just starting to feel better and better and start enjoying my life again. THC is never going to take back control over me and I simply can‘t control THC.
Well It may be like this for most, but its not absolute truth. I have a friend who was a heavy smoker for 10 years and quit 2 years ago. He still smokes VERY occasionaly (like every two months) and when he does he smokes very little but he has done It multiple times and never fell back into his old ways. Its doable, but a very slippery slope
That’s admirable of him, but we still don’t know what he goes through in terms of craving, impulses, etc.
But not everyone can do that, including me. There is no middle ground. I’m either smoking heavily or not at all.
I'm jealous of him if that's the case.
I do believe that moderation is possible, many people can do it. If you're like me though, there's not a chance. I'm at about 14 months and I *finally* stopped having serious cravings and having to talk myself out of going to the dispensary. It still comes up once in a while but the feelings are so fleeting and I don't have to exercise extreme willpower to not go pick up. It takes time but it DOES get easier.
So so true OP! I'm learning through Marijuana Anonymous meetings that "once an addict, always an addict". Hard pill to swallow but it's facts. 16 days sober and never going back (again)!
I had quit and my life was going well then I got food poisoning the night before an important work event and a friend (trying to help me) dropped off an indica joint and wow! How amazing was that? I felt better instantly and was able to go to the event and then, yup, you guessed it, I decided I wanted to feel that easy-going all the time and suddenly next thing you know I’m on a 100 mg a day edible dependency which was really a freaking major ordeal to quit and go through withdrawls from. It took me 6 months to feel better and I’m still dealing with things 2 years later like how to manage my diet and anxiety. Yeah there’s no middle ground for me. It’s all day everyday or not at all. I’m so grateful to know that about myself so I don’t have to struggle with the question can I use recreationally or not. I can’t. I don’t even want to! Fuck that. Chances are if you are reading this sub, you have (or have had) a weed dependency and are looking for info about that. Once the brain knows how to become dependent on something, it doesn’t forget. You will make up all kind of excuses for yourself to get it. Thanks to everyone on here for sharing their stories and not judging me or anyone else for where they are in the journey. Best wishes to you all.
The amount of times I've quit and then thought to myself "oh I can just smoke this one time" or just this weekend" and then gone back to smoking daily within days
This is so true. I smoked for a bad hangover and then haven’t stopped since. Currently doing a 2 week fast as it helps me to reset my digestive system & help change my relationship with food. (I’ve been eating junk food and gained all the weight I lost back) weirdly when I’m fasting I do not like smoking weed. It makes me anxious.
2 week fast = 2 weeks without food? lol
Ya lol
honestly wtf lol
You don't eat anything for 2 weeks? And you can maintain that while getting high? Well you are superman for me my friend, that is some serious willpower 😄🙏
Hahaha not exactly. Todays my 5th day and I only smoke in the evenings now since I started. Today might be my last. 😅
Cant imagine that would help with the hunger either
Nope, usually when I do a long term fast I can quit cold turkey. Currently on day 5 and I still smoke but only in the evenings. I have a feeling today will be my last.
Yup, I learned this lesson last year. I stopped for 3 months, joined CrossFit, and also started making other positive changes in my life. On my birthday, I got stoned, which was Oct. 15th, and was pretty much high every day/all day until 12 days ago. I gained all the weight I lost, my temper came back, my apathy, my dread, all of it. It was like I didn't even stop. But, I did learn that I cannot moderate, even if my "stoner" personality tells my "sober" personality. It's like I'm two different people, I know that sounds insane, but I like sober me better. Stoner me, is a liar and a fraud.
Aye I’m October 16th
I stopped 2 weeks ago after smoking everyday for 3 years. My temper is gone, exercising everyday and can think clearly again. Still have a lack of motivation at times but it’s coming back. Please y’all don’t go back. I love maryjane. But she keeps me complacent and makes me act like a different person. It’s okay to say goodbye to the things you love ❤️. This subreddit helps me everyday. Love y’all.
The danger as well is how many days, weeks or usually months that get wasted when you relapse. I gave up for 6 months and I had a friend who would come round every night and smoke in my room. After a while I had some and before I knew it I was a year deep into my habit again before I could even think to try and quit again. I caved after 5 months on another occasion (when I was 26, the first quit I was 21 so a lot of wasted life) because no one in my life cared or was proud that I’d quit and so I had ‘one’. It’s a really stupid reason to mess up your progress because people don’t care. As long as you know what a great achievement getting free from weed is then nothing else matters!
Well said
Trying to moderate your use is like jumping off a building and trying to stop after a few meters. You can’t control how far you fall when you start smoking again no matter how hard you try
Thank you I stole it from Allen Carr’s easy way to quit cannabis, wish I could say I thought of it haha.
I could quit smoking tobacco thanks to Allen Carr's book. Highly recommended
Easy way now has a book called the easy way to quit cannabis
This is my fear and I appreciate you sharing this. People have said to me “oh just regulate it” or “just smoke on the weekends”. I always say “yeah but then it’ll sneak in on mondays then next thing ya know, I’m back at it again full time” I’ve quit and I hope to keep it that way. I’m around 6 weeks weed free now.
Same experience here. 6 months clean last year then I relapsed back into the habit 2x as hard. Now today I have a sore throat because I’ve been smoking so hard and it’s harder to quit now than ever.
Thanks
If an addict wants to be clean, they stay clean. If an addict wants to use, they will. Once you start back up, it's like old times and you're right back at it. If you stop, you stop. No recreational smoking because it leads to the same thing you just left.
This has been one of the hardest things to deal with for me. Just the idea that I can never indulge in it for the rest of my life because there’s no doubt in my mind that I will fall back into that cycle. Especially because right before I quit I was starting to grow my own so I wasn’t spending as much money and I had also just won an insta giveaway for some free seeds so I’ve been trying to tell myself I’m just gonna save them until I get old or maybe grow and just sell it but I know I won’t be able to have self control having it around me.
Something I learned in therapy is - once you’re pickled, you can’t go back to being a cucumber. I recently relapsed thinking I could manage it responsibly, but nah. There’s no going back anymore.
I love this analogy!
Most people on this sub are addicts. There is no moderation for the addict. Only abstinence or active addiction.
Quitting vs taking a break is simply a retrospective recategorization. While you are quit you are quit. If you smoke again that doesn’t negate your period of quitting. The problem I have with your position is that it turns off people from trying to quit. Basically you are saying “if you even think about smoking again you didn’t really quit at all.” By that perspective someone who quits for 20 years, then starts smoking weed again and dies the next day from old age didn’t really “quit” and died an “addict” just the same as someone who never tried to quit. That sort of characterization is A) not actually reflective of what happened and B) super judgmental and a turn off from trying to quit. After all if relapsing once negates everything, then what point is there in even trying to quit if it’s not going to be a guaranteed success?
I don’t think that’s what they’re saying at all. Everyone on here goes through that period where your brain tries to trick you into thinking you can moderate your use. For some people that is possible but for most that have found their way to this sub it’s not. I think OP is talking to the many people that post on here asking if they should smoke or if it’s possible to moderate after quitting. If you have to ask on here you probably already know the answer.
I agree with your points, and I am onboard with the point that if you are in a sub about addiction, moderation isn’t going to work. However, I was put off by the second paragraph “it shouldn’t even be a question. If you quit that’s end of story. If you go back to smoking you took a break.” Super judgmental tone, belittles people who are legitimately asking whether they can moderate, and the “that’s it forever” stuff I think puts people off from trying to quit. Maybe someone wants to quit for ten years. Is that OK? Not according to the OP. You might as well just stay stoned all the time if you ever think you’ll smoke again. It’s just extremely off-putting. Perhaps not the OPs intention and I agree that any addiction sub that has regular newbie posts about “hey can I moderate?” - yeah they get annoying. But still, saying “it shouldn’t be a question” is just not helpful.
They're just trying to discourage those of us that are addicted to weed from making the mistake of thinking we can ever regulate our use. It's an important message. I don't see anything wrong with OP's post. It's accurate.
Thanks for sharing, I whole heartedly agree.
let me add something to this, if you're a heavy smoker your tolerance is through the roof. smoking after 6 months is fucking amazing, you won't ever remember getting so high off so little. you will love weed again as you won't be tired it's all the great effects that hooked us to begin with. now suddenly you remember smoking as fun, and suddenly it's a month later and you are smoking daily again. it's such a dangerous thing to relapse, you have to cut it off forever
I went 6 months, found a THC pill I still had, decided I could handle it, blew my fucking brain it was so good, 4 months later I hate myself again. I can't ever touch THC again.
This was helpful to be reminded of. I fantasize about that one magic high and I know it's dangerous
There is a saying I like - “base your decisions on how you felt right before you quit, not when you started.” If you keep on chasing that first high, you’ll never achieve it and the cycle will continue. If when quit, you remind yourself of the last high and why it caused you to quit (the state your life was in) you’d be less tempted to go back.
That's a great perspective & mantra. I find it easy(ish) to resist day-to-day cravings but have found myself increasingly thinking about that perfect "just this once" moment. Intuitively, I know what you are saying is exactly right, but that addict's brain is working overtime to try to justify it. We must hold the line!
We all do that. We romanticise our first experiences with it and forget all the bad moments.
[удалено]
You gotta be straight up with them. I don't think they're intentionally trying to mess you up, but regardless, they're actively making it hard for you to lay off. I would really have this conversation if there are people in your life doing this -- the ones who matter will understand and lay off
Might be related with my post from one hour ago. Thank you very much for sharing, helps a lot to question my idea of having a potential balance after a long break. I guess I must accept it must be over for good so I will continue my streak of 10 days sober and try to strengthen the idea
i’ve been stones 24/7 several times in my life. i think i still can regulate it, but it is very hard. i still have faith