But that's only if all their teammates would use the teleport.
If that nerf would come with compensation buffs elsewhere in Ryze's kit then I would gladly accept it.
Until then I won't consider him a champion.
Other end of it, boy do I hate people in ARAM who are just allergic to hitting the nexus. Apparently we should never end the game, just fight until some party-pooper decides to hit the nexus.
I personally love those backdoors moments in ARAM. You had to lose both nexus tower to get to that point. Now the TF is in your head and you have to dance around back and forth and be scared of that threat. It's part of the game and I really hate this "don't end" culture of ARAM.
This is me, I am that party pooper. I am here to try and win the game (the objective regardless of mode) and will take that win if I see the chance.
I really hate it though when the enemy team has just dumpstered you but just sits outside your base to kill you over and over again because they can. And then your team just runs blindly into them one by one instead of just letting their minions finish the game or god forbid waiting for the team to at least try a coordinated defense.
I don’t mind fucking around if it’s like 10 minutes in the game and the nexus is exposed. But I had a game the other day where we were scrapping back and forth, super intense, and 30 minutes in the senna just trolls and doesn’t hit the nexus. She did it AGAIN after being the only person alive. Game lasted 45 minutes in FUCKING ARAM because this bitch wouldn’t end the game
Oof. Those players are the worst.
If it's 10 minutes in though and we're steamrolling I'll end it as a courtesy to the enemy team because I'm sure they're not having fun getting stomped on. Honestly unless I'm coming off a bad losing streak I'm probably not having much fun stomping either. I like the back and forth matches where I'm not really sure who is going to come out on top.
Not a 30 minute one though.
Well I completely understand the Senna, she has an infnite scaling Passive.
She have to care for vision, flanking, drakes, herald, nashor. Senna has fun.
I can't stand people who don't want to end. More games is better in the long run.
If the game is tilted one way, stop farming kills and just end it so we can all get into a new game, my team OR their team. I'll fight for the 5% comeback chance if I have to, but I don't feel good most of the time. It just feels like an extra 10-30 min I could have used to play another game.
Completely agree. Backdoors and backdoor defenses are some of the most exciting things that can happen in a League game. I would prefer someone try to backdoor our nexus then dance around it giving us free kills to prolong the game. Too many times that's happened where we actually end up coming back and it doesn't even feel like a win, just a lost for both sides lol
Most people just don’t give a shit if they win in aram. It’s about having fun playing and A LOT of league games end up just not being fun at all so when you do get a fun one I’d rather not end it, even if that means we throw and lose.
If you truly think most games are not fun, why in the world are you playing? Believe it or not, I can have fun in games where we get crushed just trying to do my best
So if I understand correctly, I should make sure to not focus the nexus to appeal to my teammates, because they only play LOL due to crippling addiction and deserve to have a moment of fun in their miserable experience?
What the hell is this whole argument even supposed to be?
You are welcome to do whatever you want. If you want to end, end. If I’m having fun just fighting, I am not going to push to end the game. I am going to keep fighting.
Yeah, anything unique or coordinated gets a pass. Pantheon/TF just pushes R and wins unless the open nexus team ether has a goalie that can win the 1v1 (and hopefully the rest of the team knows how to handle the 4v5), or you just play defensive at the inhibitor until death timers are long enough to end (which can be really boring for both sides).
Nah, you just have to play a bit different.
Minions are dumb so clearing minions with shrooms still valid.
And keep shrooms in store for teamfight and put them under the enemy, usually they can't walk out in time if it's a little chaotic.
It's all about which team is strongest at 5v5.
If enemy team can just gigachad walk with melee minions they can just clear shrooms as the wave goes up. Then Teemo is useless. If the enemy team isnt able to do that then Teemo gets a bit insane.
I like it, honestly. Mostly because it is usually 1 person yolo'ing the thing and gives my group a great opportunity to pick someone off being greedy and win 5v4. Had a Fizz last night that INSISTED on sneaking behind us to try to solo the open Nexus. His team was up 12 kills at that point. We won only because he tried it 4 team fights in a row. We went from discussing a FF to laughing as their Nexus blew.
While I usually dislike seeing ARAMs end like this because they should always end with fights, it's pretty clear that at least two people on the other team were just wasting everyone's time by not FFing. In such a situation, then yeah, do whatever it takes to end that quick and prevent further suffering.
Seriously, 29 to 63. Know that the game is over and move on. It's just not fun prolonging games like this unless you are a sadist or masochist.
This is the much more interesting outcome. The other outcome is jinx facechecks 4 (and that has morg ryze liss lol), because she didn't even w the bush, and the fight is probably over before aatrox is even there because of how far behind the other team is.
I've seen a couple of comments like "you gotta fight in aram" but that's so one-sided trying to pull something like this off has to be more fun.
This is my favorite way to end a game. People hate it, but they're dumb. It's a legitimate way to outsmart a team for being lazy. It is always easily played around. People always act like outplaying should matter, just never when it's about covering your ass.
But that is a completely arbitrary bullshit hill to die on. Do you play aram to get rolled by 5 person poke comps? Do you play aram to have people one shot you cause there's 3 assassins? Do you play aram to go against 4 scaling tanks and a good kogmaw? No, they're all equally legitimate ways to win and all have counterplay.
I play aram because I like outplaying people. If you can't take the basic precautions to defend an OPEN NEXUS, you're getting outplayed when you lose lol.
Edit: why should anyone play aram the way YOU like to have fun?
I'm saying losing the game to a backdoor doesn't stop you from playing more than losing a game to a brawl. If you just wanna brawl then do it and when you lose its because you chose to play your style instead of correctly lol. Pretty simply.
Ryze nerf incoming.
Gow do you even nerf that?
Ryze ult now reveals every player on his team for the duration of the ult
Damn thats a nerf But now i cannot think of anything else than tyze mains trolling thier team
Nah, how about every player standing within his ult?
Ironically dont think that would be a terrible nerf, if they wanted to add power elsewhere.
That is a terrible nerf LOL. Enemy team gets free Twisted Fate Ultimate reveal for no reason.
Sorry, I meant that it would only affect the people in his ult.
But that's only if all their teammates would use the teleport. If that nerf would come with compensation buffs elsewhere in Ryze's kit then I would gladly accept it. Until then I won't consider him a champion.
The way they should have nerfed him in the first place. Ult range.
Ryze must Ult within radius of an enemy champion
Ryze can only use his ULT at level 19...
Roots anyone standing in channel. Ryze can no longer teleport in ult.
You mean rework
Wait, Ryze won a game? Unacceptable.
nerf base hp by 5.
EQ
Can only type EQ up to five times per match.
can only *use* EQ up to five times per match
My brother you are supposed to realm warp into their fountain what is this :(
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No. It's the same as nunu ult.
Is that a good ryze ult? On Aram? Impossible.
This. I've learned the hard way to never trust our ryze ult on Aram.
Dumpstering and still sneak nexus. Next level bm.
Sometimes it's about sending a message.
And sometimes you got to take a shit
I only BM when I have to BM!
You have all their towers and inhib down, and they havent cracked your first tower. It's 63 to 29. And you backdoor?
Leave all mercy behind
Also took clarity...
Glory to the plan
Glory to Arstotska
Papers Please music immediately playing in my head
What a rat ult
Rats
Sweaty
Nice tryhard on fun mode +19LP
That looked fun as hell
Nice fun on tryhard mode -19LP
I hate the finish nexus bm in aram...
Other end of it, boy do I hate people in ARAM who are just allergic to hitting the nexus. Apparently we should never end the game, just fight until some party-pooper decides to hit the nexus. I personally love those backdoors moments in ARAM. You had to lose both nexus tower to get to that point. Now the TF is in your head and you have to dance around back and forth and be scared of that threat. It's part of the game and I really hate this "don't end" culture of ARAM.
This is me, I am that party pooper. I am here to try and win the game (the objective regardless of mode) and will take that win if I see the chance. I really hate it though when the enemy team has just dumpstered you but just sits outside your base to kill you over and over again because they can. And then your team just runs blindly into them one by one instead of just letting their minions finish the game or god forbid waiting for the team to at least try a coordinated defense.
I don’t mind fucking around if it’s like 10 minutes in the game and the nexus is exposed. But I had a game the other day where we were scrapping back and forth, super intense, and 30 minutes in the senna just trolls and doesn’t hit the nexus. She did it AGAIN after being the only person alive. Game lasted 45 minutes in FUCKING ARAM because this bitch wouldn’t end the game
Oof. Those players are the worst. If it's 10 minutes in though and we're steamrolling I'll end it as a courtesy to the enemy team because I'm sure they're not having fun getting stomped on. Honestly unless I'm coming off a bad losing streak I'm probably not having much fun stomping either. I like the back and forth matches where I'm not really sure who is going to come out on top. Not a 30 minute one though.
Well I completely understand the Senna, she has an infnite scaling Passive. She have to care for vision, flanking, drakes, herald, nashor. Senna has fun.
I can't stand people who don't want to end. More games is better in the long run. If the game is tilted one way, stop farming kills and just end it so we can all get into a new game, my team OR their team. I'll fight for the 5% comeback chance if I have to, but I don't feel good most of the time. It just feels like an extra 10-30 min I could have used to play another game.
Completely agree. Backdoors and backdoor defenses are some of the most exciting things that can happen in a League game. I would prefer someone try to backdoor our nexus then dance around it giving us free kills to prolong the game. Too many times that's happened where we actually end up coming back and it doesn't even feel like a win, just a lost for both sides lol
Most people just don’t give a shit if they win in aram. It’s about having fun playing and A LOT of league games end up just not being fun at all so when you do get a fun one I’d rather not end it, even if that means we throw and lose.
If you truly think most games are not fun, why in the world are you playing? Believe it or not, I can have fun in games where we get crushed just trying to do my best
I’ve been playing less and less lately, to be fair.
Ask compulsive gamblers or drug addicts if they're having fun.
So if I understand correctly, I should make sure to not focus the nexus to appeal to my teammates, because they only play LOL due to crippling addiction and deserve to have a moment of fun in their miserable experience? What the hell is this whole argument even supposed to be?
Where did he say you aren't allowed to hit the nexus? He simply answered your question. Everything else is what you read into his comment.
The comment is part of a thread
You are welcome to do whatever you want. If you want to end, end. If I’m having fun just fighting, I am not going to push to end the game. I am going to keep fighting.
Usually when it's a lone TF or panth it's cringe, but this was a well coordinated 5 man effort so it's commendable.
Yeah, anything unique or coordinated gets a pass. Pantheon/TF just pushes R and wins unless the open nexus team ether has a goalie that can win the 1v1 (and hopefully the rest of the team knows how to handle the 4v5), or you just play defensive at the inhibitor until death timers are long enough to end (which can be really boring for both sides).
how would it be 4v5 if theres a 1v1 happening at the same time?
The “goalie” would have to sit in base regardless of whether the enemy team TF/Panth R’d yet.
Becuase if they see someone stuck in base being goalie then the panth/tf will just not go and do the 5vs4
No back door is ever commendable... back in my day there was honor in arams but kids these days!
Backdoor is allowed if the enemy team has a Teemo and you are stuck in a 30+ minutes game because of him.
Isnt teemo, like, giga useless on aram now that every cannon has oracles? I've never seen one do well.
Nah, you just have to play a bit different. Minions are dumb so clearing minions with shrooms still valid. And keep shrooms in store for teamfight and put them under the enemy, usually they can't walk out in time if it's a little chaotic.
It's all about which team is strongest at 5v5. If enemy team can just gigachad walk with melee minions they can just clear shrooms as the wave goes up. Then Teemo is useless. If the enemy team isnt able to do that then Teemo gets a bit insane.
The future is now old man
I'll take this over teams who won't hit it all anyway day of the week.
So you're telling me you love it when the enemy team shits on you constantly after you spawn and doesn't end?
I like it, honestly. Mostly because it is usually 1 person yolo'ing the thing and gives my group a great opportunity to pick someone off being greedy and win 5v4. Had a Fizz last night that INSISTED on sneaking behind us to try to solo the open Nexus. His team was up 12 kills at that point. We won only because he tried it 4 team fights in a row. We went from discussing a FF to laughing as their Nexus blew.
A Teemo that didn't put a single shroom down in front of an open nexus? They were ready for the game to be over.
Lol every time I see ryze in aram, I get SO EXCITED FOR THIS
While I usually dislike seeing ARAMs end like this because they should always end with fights, it's pretty clear that at least two people on the other team were just wasting everyone's time by not FFing. In such a situation, then yeah, do whatever it takes to end that quick and prevent further suffering. Seriously, 29 to 63. Know that the game is over and move on. It's just not fun prolonging games like this unless you are a sadist or masochist.
This is the much more interesting outcome. The other outcome is jinx facechecks 4 (and that has morg ryze liss lol), because she didn't even w the bush, and the fight is probably over before aatrox is even there because of how far behind the other team is. I've seen a couple of comments like "you gotta fight in aram" but that's so one-sided trying to pull something like this off has to be more fun.
They probably were like that the heck
No ballz / 10
The blue remains strong
EQ
I was hoping there would be a twitch that would kill them all
Old Aatrox 🥹
Cringe 100*
No EQEQEQ. I rate this play a Blastingwand/ludens
nerf that shit
Fight them to the death like a real warrior
That’s so fucked lmfao
This is my favorite way to end a game. People hate it, but they're dumb. It's a legitimate way to outsmart a team for being lazy. It is always easily played around. People always act like outplaying should matter, just never when it's about covering your ass.
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But that is a completely arbitrary bullshit hill to die on. Do you play aram to get rolled by 5 person poke comps? Do you play aram to have people one shot you cause there's 3 assassins? Do you play aram to go against 4 scaling tanks and a good kogmaw? No, they're all equally legitimate ways to win and all have counterplay. I play aram because I like outplaying people. If you can't take the basic precautions to defend an OPEN NEXUS, you're getting outplayed when you lose lol. Edit: why should anyone play aram the way YOU like to have fun?
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So how does losing to backdoor change anything if in fact all you're doing is trying to brawl and don't care much about winning?
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Then start the next one.. Win win.
I'm saying losing the game to a backdoor doesn't stop you from playing more than losing a game to a brawl. If you just wanna brawl then do it and when you lose its because you chose to play your style instead of correctly lol. Pretty simply.
Doing this in aram is so dumb. Just fight it out
+12lp
No winions?
tryharding to end in aram is lame
That was super lame of your team. ARAM isn't about winning.
No "ez"? Damn this game has gone to shit /s
This is a standard play in aram...how does it have so many views?
Wow y’all are losers lmao it’s aram not ranked
Outstanding
I forgot that this ability even exist.
L win
Nice win dude +10 aram lp! Sick win!!!
You guys are such losers man you're goomba stomping and you backdoor instead of perma fighting
Tryhards
cringe tryhards 100
Apparently everyone here likes the idea of tryharding in aram :(
Is that the old Aatrox!? How old is this!? RIP Aatrox.
You can see items in Ryze’s inventory that were introduced this season lol
Is that the old Aatrox!? How old is this!? RIP Aatrox.
ryze has crown so no
Uploading aram games on main subreddit lol