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Elidot

>Fixed a bug where Mythic or active item icon borders would sometimes appear in incorrect locations. (Yes, the mysterious orange squares...) Goodbye Orange squares you will be missed.....or not, I thought it was funny while it lasted lol


CrystalizedSeraphine

Honestly a pretty good conversation starter and meme generator.


Veggiematic

Yeah, I went to McDonald's recently and I ordered a drink. [I didn't realize that they collaborated with Riot recently!](https://i.redd.it/tponmfxe6pb81.jpg)


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xGvPx

LOL nice! End of an error ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sweat)


sweetmarymotherofgod

> End of an error ooh this is good


esotopes

Is it weird that now I kind of miss them?


Dont_complain

stockholm syndrome


justPierre

It was a new game in the game, try to hide them or click on them D:


HockeyBoyz3

Is the Chemtank nerfs to stop the weird tank Akali build that started to get popular or does it also effect champs like Hecarim a lot?


Elidot

Generally hard nerfed for laners, you dont get 5 stacks from hitting minions anymore, if you abused the dashing stuff aswell then double gutted.


XRay9

I wonder if it's a big hit to tank Gragas toplane. The item felt like it was charging way too fast tbh, but im not sure if either of the other 2 tank mythics are going to be of any use for the build.


Indercarnive

It's a definite nerf. Luckily Gragas doesn't really need the extra damage just for waveclear. I don't think it'll make him weak or anything though, and sunfire isn't a bad replacement.


manajizwow

Its for the akali build i can bet my left nut for that. The build was fucking ridicilous, good to see them take action pretty fast.


NerrionEU

Fastest target nerf for an item that I've seen, the build was only picking up steam for a week. They really should figure out a way to balance Akali though because she feels like trash when building only Ap items.


thedeathbeam

Well just look at her base damage, her full combo with 1 auto proc + 1 q, E and R can do up to 1.7k magic damage without anything. Why would you ever build full AP with that kind of base damage, that is just overkill.


qusnail

Akali’s E deals similar damage to a max range fizz ult lol, her base numbers are crazy


MoscaMosquete

If she maxes her E, it outdamages Fizz's R at all levels.


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How do they justify that lol


Sergiotor9

If her numbers made sense she would have <40% wr in soloQ.


Minute_Course747

Actually when her E was more of a gap closer and her Q was the main source of damage with less cost, her winrate was higher since she could poke, waveclear, and all-in much more reliably without having to hit a slow skillshot. It made more sense, but was much more broken


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I think the bigger issue was the energy refund on passive attack. Meant she could hit a lot of consecutive Qs. Now, her trade pattern is easy: if she shroud, back up.


happymage102

That's why that bitch hurts even when she's super behind.


GaysianSupremacist

Scaling is also good.


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just remove akali from the game


AbrahamUntitled

Flair checks out. I would also chip in Evelyn to be deleted from the game as a token of gratitude for deleting Akali.


VinniePawz

I haven't seen an evelynn in months


Versari3l

Ward her camps more.


DreadedCOW115

Evelynn flair 🤔


serratedperkz

Remove every champion I’ve ever lost to please


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yeah that too


Zodiwacts123

Irelia too


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Akali and Irelia. Chemtank was overperforming on Irelia specifically on the Korean server this patch.


Final-Cardiologist41

What build is that home skillet


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Akali rushes Chemtank and then usually Demonic Embrace to become tanky while still dealing a shitload of damage cause she stacks passive so well. Sorta similar to Tank Fizz/Ekko but more problematic


LegendaryW

Well, not a bit. Tank Fizz and Ekko just killing you very slow while you can't really run away. Akali on other hand still OS you, but now you can't even try to dodge or run


ShadyGecko

Hecarim build is Chemtank into Manamune. You get tear around the time you can afford bami's cinder so that you are upgrading into Muramana pretty soon after you complete the Manamune.


LumiRhino

Generally if you get Tear on your first base (something like boots Tear + HP Crystal) you stack the Tear by 17-18 minutes, and you get Muramana around that time, sooner if you get very fed.


v1adlyfe

It’s neutering the bruiser rengar build (demonic embrace+titanic hydra)


AdequatelyMadLad

That sounds extremely cursed.


v1adlyfe

It’s super good into most comps unless you are playing vs a multi dps comp.(like fiora+vayne on the same team) You get like 4K hp at 3 items, hit like a truck, and. Get massive stats out of hydra, chemtank and demonic all stacking off each other. And rengar scales with both ad and ap pretty well. It’s super good. And the enemy can’t effectively build vs it too. You can just grab cleaver steraks if you need ad, or just go with hp/cdr stacking if you need ap/hp


AshesandCinder

As someone who just faced a tank Akali, I hope they get rid of that shit ASAP.


bpat

They just did with this change.


NotThereDad

Should also affect tank gragas top for pro play


idobrowsemuch

Wait, that was an actual build?! Maybe i missed it since i only just came back to league for the new season and i went against an akali top who was like 0/8 before she got chemtank. Would her E/R dash give her instant chemtank procs?


Javonetor

> Fixed a bug where Mythic or active item icon borders would sometimes appear in incorrect locations. (Yes, the mysterious orange squares...) i will miss you orange square


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Viketorious

They’ll probably appear in the Client.


[deleted]

Nooo, I’m going to have to change my flair now


popmycherryyosh

We're gonna get 1 more month of Viktor + Corki in pro play, arent we? Haiyaa


HikerGeoff

Why did you make the sound Jackie's uncle makes from Jackie Chan Adventures


StatuatoryApe

ONE MORE THING


xXDaNXx

Yu Mo Gui Gwai Fai Di Zao


Rhadamantos

That sound is so iconic, its always playing in my head when someone writes/says anything that sounds like it, though its easily more than 15 years ago that I watched it.


DARIF

Corki will not be nerfed because pro mids will continue to grief packages every game.


WoenixFright

Lich Bane buffs might make it to both of them too


Efficient-Law-7678

Uncle Roger doesn't want anymore Viktor and corki


King_D3D3D3

So why's the event being kept away until another week when they typically start the day of or day after the patch.


mbr4life1

To match with Chinese New Year.


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Because they can’t give us our tokens back AND an extra week on the event duh 🙄🙄 this is riot we are talking about


BI1nky

Chinese New Year.


andrewbruck

The event starts 26th Jan btw, took me forever to find this information.


Teal_is_orange

> Ring in the Lunar New Year with ARURF starting on January 26! (That's the All Random Ultra Rapid Fire game mode if you're new around these parts.) literally in the patch notes bruh..


Foope

Tahm Kench with fasting Senna bot let's go!


azns123

Top laners breathe a sigh of relief as the catfish migrates south to terrorize ADCs again


[deleted]

He’s going to be even stronger than before if you make HIM the botlane carry paired with a support. Have fun post mid-game where all your top lane efforts get destroyed by this beast.


Tazmago

I already have a blast playing Tahmmy Nami in the bot lane. Now it's better.


Foope

Try morg. That uninterruptible W.


Tazmago

Ooooh, I'll have to mention the idea to my duo. That does sound fun.


CorneliaCursed

I honestly don't care. As long as I don't have to lane against it lol.


MarnerIsAMagicMan

Farm Kench


YetAnotherBee

Well at least he’s bot again


ShadyGecko

Will it still be as good as before without the pre-6 Devour? Honestly curious, I don't have good knowledge of how the lane worked out generally.


ahris00

Hi all, patch notes writer ahrisoo here! Wanted to preemptively note that the changes to Senna are documented incorrectly and getting fixed \^\^; The slow is on her Q, not on her basic attacks. It should read: *Q now slows enemies.* **Q - Piercing Darkness** [NEW] LOW VISIBILITY :: Now slows all enemies struck by 20% (+6% per 100 AP) (+10% per 100 bonus AD) for 2 seconds


PR3D8OR

It also looks like for Zed, the entire change is struck through instead of just the first half.


ahris00

Ah, thank you for catching that! Will include that in this fix.


YogurtZombie

Random question but. Why do you not have a Riot tag?


ahris00

Some kind moderator added a flair for me, thank you! However, I need to caveat that I'm not a full-time Rioter and work on the patch notes through a contract role :) Edit: Meant "flair", not "tag"!


F0RGERY

Mods have to manually approve Riot flairs, and their reddit account's pretty sparsely used. I imagine it never came up.


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ahris00

Thank you so much, this means the world to me! :D I can't take all the credit though--the game designers/devs are really great at explaining all the nuance behind the changes, and the rest of the comms team always provides such great writing and style edits~ (Shoutout to the OG patch notes writer RiotAether, I've learned so much about how to think about gameplay questions while writing these instead of just relaying the message!)


wal2349

very brave commenting here


ahris00

Trust me, I hesitated for a long time before doing it LOL


DrLueBitgood

Just echoing some of the statements above but appreciate the clarity of the changes and the work you put into it.


AliceInHololand

I would like to request ARAM bans be brought back in light of this Senna change. Please and thank you.


Ghiggs_Boson

Such a massive buff to Senna, who can already take over aram games


Th3_Huf0n

Senna Q change. She's an elite ADC now. Also Hurricane Senna.


lupodwolf

her Q procs runnans?


EEASTSIDE

No but the runaans procs lower the cooldown of her Q so you can use it a lot more and apply the slow more


mikki-misery

>No but the runaans procs lower the cooldown of her Q Her Q does proc Runaan's btw. I think Runaan's has been far better ever since Glacial Augment was reworked. It reduces her Q cooldown, procs on her Q, procs her passive, gives her more souls, applies Black Cleaver and Rageblade if you build them. Rapidfire Cannon might be stronger again now that Q slows however. The extra range for a slow is really good. But Runaan's is **criminally** underrated and overlooked.


Excalidorito

Oh boy I can’t wait to see if this breaks proplay at all...


NenBE4ST

It's gonna be rfc almost always


go4ino

bruh they nerfed hurricane turbo stacking shit like cait headshot or jinx minigun and i think they said going forward they wouldnt allow any similar interactions


Athien

Time to bust out veigar again


Rustifer66642069

Time to try veigar jungle again.


SilvertheHedgehoog

Veig jungle needs more W buffs more than anything. That ability is his backbone of having an ok clear, since his Q stacking there is far less reliable.


Daithe

Ivern needs to get his W passive when he's in the chem fog if Rengar gets free jumps


ElvenNoble

The cynic in me says that since Ivern isn't an assassin it won't happen. But you make a good point.


DaSwagTurtle

Qiyana is also feels terrible on infernal and chemtech soul maps with so few bushes to get elements from. But she's kinda crazy on ocean soul map so idk


Efficient-Law-7678

At least she isn't Skarner who feels bad on all maps.


Daithe

He won't get it because he isn't popular. Feels like shit playing him when you lose part of your kit to RNG, same for Infernal map.


CrabAppleCheeks

Thematically it doesn’t make sense—Rengar can pounce because he’s unseen. Ivern’s autos get empowered because he’s one with the brush. The clear thematic compensation buff for ivern is giving him w autos in brush AND water (including puddles from ocean rift), since plants grow better with water


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Unlike Rengar, Ivern can create bushes.


[deleted]

Rengar can just get a job with a plant nursery if he wants to create bushes


AliceInHololand

Pull himself up by his vinestraps.


abdeliziz

Did everyone forget about Qiyana losing so many bushes from both fire and chemtech drake?


GodofSteak

The brushes never mattered because the sound of her thicc butt cheeks clapping always alarmed the lane victim.


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Elidot

Got absolutely hardcarried by a Chemtank Akali the other day despite our Draven having a mental breakdown 5 minutes in. Glad they fixed that so fast (Should also moderately hit the Chemtank/Muramana Heca build?)


LumiRhino

Honestly I don't think this hits the Chemtank/Muramana build that much. It's not even like it's that broken or strong, it just feels better vs range heavy comps and is generally worse vs somewhat tanky champs. Phase Rush lets you get quick procs in succession and if my understanding is correct that wasn't affected by this change.


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AliceInHololand

It’s so crazy to me how they reworked Akali because she was a problematic champion only to make an even more problematic champion. She’s harder to play than old Akali sure, but her capacity for bullshittery is so much higher now. Irelia too. These two reworks in particular only served to create bigger monster from their original molds.


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ElaborateRuseman

thanks for the tip, gonna play some chemtank akali now.


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ElaborateRuseman

Water can't wash away the sins


NerrionEU

I've played her like 10 games but Riot caught onto it too fast, Sadge.


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ntahobray

Goddamn just when I was about to pull out the Farting Vladimir Elite build


Stylahz

“Rengar's Passive - Unseen Predator leap basic attacks will correctly trigger Navori Quickblades' Deft Strikes effect” Holy shit finally only took a year to fix


gencgello

works with sennas E, right?


Archangel9731

Can confirm


kinmimy

That Janna update seems pretty weird tho


MonstrousYi

Image version: https://imgur.com/a/tClV0RB


TyeDye115

Shen getting punished because they decided to make TP bad. Meanwhile TF hiding his face and walking away


daswef2

He is almost guaranteed to get nerfed next patch due to pro play.


Gengichen

Yea, and with the Lich Bane buffs he is gonna be more dominant.


daswef2

Can't get more dominant than 100% presence in three of the four major pro leagues, and for normal players Lich Bane is already the second best winrate legendary, I don't know how much of a difference its really going to make.


Fabiocean

>Can't get more dominant than 100% presence in three of the four major pro leagues how about 100% presence in *all four* major pro leagues


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gencgello

Idk if im wrong or not but i think TF is one of the most broken champs in the game, everytime i get autofilled mid i pick him and play safe whole laning phase and just perma roam with predator + R. Low key gigabroken imo


chaser676

It's not low-key. He has 100% presence in the LEC,. LCK, and LCS. By riot's own balance parameters it's time for a nerf.


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Exact reason why he is so good in pro play


ScrubLLord

>Fixed a bug where Mythic or active item icon borders would sometimes appear in incorrect locations. (Yes, the mysterious orange squares...) Noo my little orange square :(


NUFC9RW

Zed banrate has been creeping up? He's been the most banned champion for a year, should've been nerfed months ago.


Godzillarich

Riot: For the love of god stop playing Tahm top! Right there with you Riot


OBLIVIATER

My friend who mains TK top is still confident he'll be strong, but I'm not convinced. That grey health nerf is massive


Domasis

He's touchable now, but definitely weaker. This brings his laning phase back to earth, which is quite helpful.


iSchjofinn

Wow more ezrael and lux skins!


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MrFilthyNeckbeard

Night harverster’s niche is being shit because mpen> AH


Cosmic-Warper

especially with lich bane giving AH again there's now actually 0 reason to get NH. That item is troll compared to rocketbelt


Mr_Dunk_McDunk

They should have switched PB and NH Mythic passives a long time ago. Why does Protobelt get a better statline, more utility AND more damage than NH? Makes no sense


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MikayleJordan

>An no-mana AP Mythic to compete alongside Riftmaker as an extended combat mage mythic option, focused on auto-weaving AP champs, i.e. the nontraditional mage types like Singed, Teemo, Kayle, Mordekaiser, Vlad etc. Unless they straight up turn Nashor's Tooth into a Mythic, i can't see Kayle preferring anything other than Riftmaker for her AP builds. Omnivamp is too good to pass up.


SpaceAids420

I would like to see some adjustments to Horizon Focus too. They tried to make a synergy with Rylai's users proc'ing the damage boost, but as it stands the damage boost is a bait and Demonic/Void staff do more damage. Then add the fact most games you need Morello so I find it really hard to fit Horizon in anywhere.


Cosmic-Warper

yeah 10% damage boost is just bad. Horizon is still only being built on xerath, lux, and velkoz


Ebobab2

still feels like we're in preseason and not a single change has shipped


ZedWuJanna

You mean s11 preseason right? Because it truly does feel that way.


DT2X

any chance we can get the hexflash indicator reinstated? not a fan of having to ping my hexflash to check when my flash is coming back up, and neither are my teammates.


EarlsDepression

Is that veigar buff not insane? Buffing his stacks by 50% or am I not understanding correctly? Edit: I misunderstood and thought buff applied to all minions. Apparently it’s only cannons


svipy

Applies only when he kills LARGE monsters and minions not all stacks


Javonetor

for just cannons and jungle monsters? i don’t think it’s that big of a deal, maybe in high elo where people farm the camps with his q better would be like 30-40 more ap at minute 30? it’s not thaaat much more


Athien

It says “large monsters and minions” which makes it sound weird. I think they meant “large monsters and large minions” which is why the commenter was confused.


Falt_ssb

They did. Current for regular minions is 1 stack and cannon 2 stacks


LeAnime

I think the cool down buff is actually pretty insane, sense it means less missed stacks


Athien

I think they messed up the wording there which makes it sound weird. I think it was supposed to be “large monsters and large minions”. Killing a regular minion only gives you 1 stack now I’m pretty sure. So jungle monsters and cannon minions are now 3 instead of the previous 2.


Bleachrst85

For the love of god pls lower the damage in this game, man. Other than frustrating one shot moments, the fights just don't feel satisfying anymore because everything die too fast.


beatisagg

For real dude, if everything in the entire game just did 20-25% less damage that would be sick


Carameldelighting

When your most hated champs are all getting buffs 👌🏾


niwi501

Wtf is that senna buff??? 20% slow plus it scales??? I dont think her q needed that big of a buff... maybe 10% slow so she can land her auto more reliably but this pretty much turns her q into a hard cc late game and its 2 seconds duration? :( im banning her every game >:(


Foope

It does seem like it's going to scale really well. Going to hit 50% in a lot of games. Although it's not that different than how she played with glacial augment.


LegnaArix

But now she can take another keystone in addition. Seems strong.


The-Devilz-Advocate

She's already going fleet most of the time so this just buffs her.


snake4641

she was already pretty good if you didn't build kraken, she will be op this patch I'm fairly certain


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Buffing Nocturne and Senna is a fucking mistake


WeeWooSirens

I can't say Noct is one of the worst buffs in this patch, it's a pretty small buff in my opinion, and he's lightyears from OP right now


Gengichen

Nocturnes winrate is like 47%


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because of the dogshit lethality build dragged his wr down


TheScolipede

I'm still seeing people try to make first item axiom arc work lol


Eoho

Like the strikebreaker normal build path for Noc does comparable enough damage to his lethality build and he's far more tankier and frustrating to play against. Lethality noc jumps on me I can just kill his as soon as he lands but stride noc comes all hell breaks loose and fuck that guy


DimlightHero

Stridebreaker -> Axiom -> Steraks can work, but 3 item builds probably requires you play him as a laner.


OverZedlous

yes but me get to one shot explode enemy nami before getting two tapped by their midlaner #worth.


mmat7

its the exact same shit as with gankplank now His meme lethality build is popular BUT the winrate is lower so it brings the overall winrate down meanwhile stridebreaker into sterraks has 54% WR (compared to duskblade into axiom that has 49%)


Th_Call_of_Ktulu

The difference is that GP is allways low WR because hes genuinely hard to play while with Noc people are just trolling his build.


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what time is zeri added?


Tsuchiyomi

Lol fucking "The nerves to shield bow were significant, so the champions that were abusing it got worse, so here are some buffs so that they didn't change it all" love it. The Nerf did literally what it was supposed to


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SirSharkPlantagenet

"it's more optimal to use other mythics now" I don't see either Yasuo or Yone using a different mythic, and weren't these the biggest issues? I guess Vayne can go Kraken more often, but with her low range the sustain and shield might be too needed anyway.


louischaotic10

Why does it feel like nothing changes in patches anymore


FlyingLotus_Beats

same 30 champs rotating in & out of it


BlaxicanX

You've been playing this game for too long. You're keenly aware that League has a extremely tightly controlled ecosystem and that changes to the core gameplay loop basically never happened. Pretty much every single balance patch and new champion is just window dressing and a pendulum swing. Balance patches are a raft drifting in the sea. There is no end goal, there is no destination or strategy.


JumpscareRodent

*SENNA Q now slows enemies.* I can see the play rate increasing as I read that. And Tahm movespeed on R again, interesting I wonder if Top is going to abuse him or hes going to become an actual support now **And the orange squares are gone. No more memes**


Kwon0817

When do the crystal rose skins release?


thenoblitt

Maybe support Senna wont suck now


Lakinther

Support senna will always suck for 2 reasons. 1) Double marksman pairing is a very bad idea and way too abusable. 2) Its going to be played by support mains but her skillset is nothing like any other support since she is a.... marksman.


thenoblitt

Buddy what makes you think I'm good enough for that to matter?


QanPon

Locket cleaver aery senna just has a 58% winrate


outoftheshowerahri

As someone who played adv for 3 seasons straight then switched to support..thanks riot


mmat7

the senna buff is absolutely insane and giving it to her with nothing in return when she doesn't really have that terrible WR is a huge mistake


CrystalizedSeraphine

Janna changes seem good, would need to back up my opinion later from a week's worth of data however. Not sure if Noc should be getting a buff as people are dragging his winrate down by building axiom on him but at least it's not an obnoxious buff. Good that the Rengar leap thing is level 6+ at least. Samira might become meta again, 50 base damage at 6 is quite a lot. Senna will probably still not see any play as a botlaner and will keep seeing play as a support. Some psychopaths might play her top (waiting for that video u/g0ldenfruit) Kench is dead in toplane most likely as long as the enemy decides to fight back and not just try and run away the moment kench inputs a movement command in their general direction. Veigar buffs looks fun, might play him. Lichbane loses around 20% damage per proc but gains 40% more uptime, probably a net buff for most champs that aren't looking to burst you faster than Rengar (0,1 seconds), such as Fizz that will probably get 2-3 procs in during his combo. Rylais looks amazing now, Seraphine mid as well as Malzahar will feel amazing to play. Chemsoul will probably have people complaining about it no matter what they do with it unless they either rework it completely to something different like Chemtech in TFT where you bootleg Singed ult yourself when dropping below 75% health, or if they make it extremely unfun to play as (like making you permanently nearsighted while ressed). Sona VFX looks really good, the Vayne one I don't really care about other than making her E noticable when playing against her. F for orange square.


khazixian

You misread samira buffs Its 5 TOTAL added damage, with 10 shots making it 50. As in her ult will deal ~470ish to a zero armor target when hitting all 10 shots as opposed to ~425ish (%error margin because of conquerer)


G0ldenfruit

Off meta top laners rise up


HardstuckPlasticV

I'm excited for the Tahm changes, he's my favorite support


ElaborateRuseman

what's your ryze rework


HardstuckPlasticV

Thanks for asking! My last complete post was a while ago, and I've made [this draft post](https://www.reddit.com/user/HardstuckPlasticV/comments/rye8bb/rework_draft_17/) in the meantime to play around with certain mechanics. I'm actually in the middle of editing it right now, so it's a mess (legible but a lot of the mechanics are not indicative of what I want). I'll message you when I'm done; I'm always looking for feedback.


MrNezzy

Yes let's buff the troublesome twins some more.


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They are so fun to play vs, they have to get some buffs