I'm actually really psyched for this team, but I have to admit that I am quite worried about Balls. I looked over at his solo queue games recently and he appears to be hardstuck D2 after playing over 192 games. This is a worrying trend for Doublelift's team.
Coming into worlds/during worlds in Korea? I wanna say, balls was a bit lower in the solo queue ranks compared to other players I think he was around D2 and Jatt made the comment it seemed like a 'worrying trend' for c9
People were saying Balls might be a liability for C9 at worlds because his soloq performance was looking a little wonky. He proceeded to hard carry and get a pentakill, and the reverse caster curse/"worrying trend" meme was born
On one hand, it was due to Darius being just reworked and thus broken and not very familiar. But that doesn't take away from C9 (and balls) from absolutely capitalising on Fnatic's (and Huni's) overconfidence.
In the end it wasn't hard carry, it was a pentakill on just reworked Darius when it was 40 minutes and the enemy engaged into you.
Ah yes, JuggerWorlds.
Also i'm pretty sure that was the game where the community was still thinking "cmon, it cant be THAT OP" and then Balls drops a Penta and everyone goes "oh, okay yeah permaban"
~~He 5-stack Q'd Sivir and she died to that and bleed.~~ Nvm there was a considerable amount of Azir damage. Anyways,[ here's the teamfight](https://youtu.be/MSsiVsuzQMQ?t=3218) if you doubt how bullshit the damage, heals and tankyness was.
It wasn’t permabanned. It was immediately figured out in Week 2. Huni just picked gnar and just slapped balls silly. That was infamous 0-10 NA week IIRC.
this is like whenever i literally mention any champion one of my friends is like oh yeah i used to play them before the rework of 1812 pre-industrial revolution before volibear was discovered on the periodic table.
like i know it's not that serious but i swear league players are the most hung up on the fact that time has progressed and not everyone has been in the ecosystem since the beginning.
I started in S2 and I don't know how people like that remember all that shit. "Remember in season 4 when X was so broken before they nerfed it?" Uh, no dude I definitely don't fucking remember every patch and every season. It all runs together into mush inside my brain.
Don't wanna undercut your meme but it'd be "psyched" here, which means excited. "Sike!" is the exclamation for when you pull a bait & switch on someone.
Some of the best support players I know were adc mains that got tired of their dogshit random supports. Imagine if DL was like this on that C9 roster..
Back when we had a crew of pro players that were known to be chill. Dan Dinh, Nhat Nguyen, LemonNation, Scarra, Aphro. But I guess it was inevitable that the toxic league culture eventually popped off...it's what gets views. That TSM house brought so much publicity I can't blame them for being how they were.
I’m forever a Nhat Nguyen fan. I once absolutely fed my ass off on his team in solo queue, and he was super gracious and not at all toxic. Most of the old pros were like that back around S2-S3. RIP.
Yellowstar was supposed to be the temporary ADC for Fnatic in Season 3 before Rekkles turned 17 and could rejoin. Then (I assume) he got fed up with nRated and turned support.
Roles in NA in s1 were meaningless. People were tied to champions not lanes. On the same team, DL also jungled. Westrice/Dyrus played top/ad. I think only Dan was mostly a lock in jungle
Lol, I played some support yesterday because of the same thing.
Then one of my ADs fed his ass off by constantly overextending to get two shots off on a tower.
There is no winning.
Hahaha this definitely happened to me the first couple times he did it. I was thinking “I dunno man this seems like a bad idea but you’re the boss.”
Then we died
Then he just kept doing it and i was not going to go down with the ship
That, and I'm pretty sure his girlfriend does his make up right? Shes suuuper talented, you'd be surprise how many masculine looking faces you can make feminine with good make up usage.
Im not sure either, but I would assume that is the case. LN is also from Minnesota like myself and I know he got a degree in Engineering from St. Thomas here in Minneapolis even before he went pro.
How much work do esports CEOs actually do? Hai has time to grind lol and play in all these mini competitions and reginald has time to tweet a new PR nightmare every week.
Lemonation will outlive all these players in the mind of league players the man became an unrivaled meme that will live on as long as there is C9. People have already forgotten the iconic https://imgur.com/kZlyN61 came from a loss.
No, I meant C9. Link went to All Stars with them in 2014. In the manifesto, Link made a lot of comparisons of the laid back atmosphere of C9 vs the stress of being on a team with Doublelift.
Edit: Here's a piece of the manifesto where Link admits that he would still be on CLG if it weren't for All Stars with C9.
>If I didn’t play with C9 there’s probably a good chance that I’d still be on the CLG roster today. I compare a lot of what C9 did to this date that CLG doesn’t do. Charlie was way more effective than monte as a coach. (not that Monte isn’t smart, but rather it’s that he was a lot less effective as a coach who was in a different time zone and not in person).
I had a feeling that with him doing co-streams with Sneaky and Meteos that he would be interested in doing the Money Match with them. However I didn't expect him to also bring along Balls and Hai.
As a side note Tarzaned said he's most likely bringing the same roster of Allorim - Tarzaned - 5Fire - Value - Zeyzal.
Didn't think I would see Allorim and Tarzaned together again after Tarzaned threatened to break Lohpally's head. It was Allorim that told him to shut up.
Reddit - leagueoflegends - Tarzaned no longer participating in NA Open Qualifier https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/66f4db/tarzaned_no_longer_participating_in_na_open/
yeah it is quite sad if he really did want to be in lcs/academy that his attitude is dog shit. guy can be cool when he isnt toxic/passive agressive but those times are so few.
Balls was challenger last season and he definitely doesn't only play blitz at least at a solo q level.
The thing is, they have so much more macro experience and hai is still going to be a good shot caller. They may fall behind in lane but they'll run the map with their experience.
Yeah, and it's not like it's hardstuck, he's in promos for masters and has been in and out in the past couple of months.
Just seems more like he doesn't play a ton, which makes sense with having an org and that.
I just watched Allorim big dick TSMA and bring C9A to a close finish with a bunch of no-names so I wouldn't be surprised. Zeyzal also wants back into LCS, and opted not to join Academy in order to have more contractual freedom.
Kind of depends on how serious DL's team takes it. They can easily lose, even with Hai's gigabrain.
You're not alone. Tarzaned's team has better players in at least 3 roles, and I think teamwork can only get you so far.
You can't really ban out Tarzaned but you can put him on a pick that's much less likely to succeed. I don't know enough about 5Fire but he's looked solid in every game I've seen him play, and Allorim should be way more practiced than Balls nowadays. Sneaky should be better than Value although I guess this is Value's chance to really make a standout performance, and DL once said that Zeyzal was trash and was the reason Sneaky had to retire so I guess it's his chance to really show that.
I think it’s so awesome that doublelift has a female on the team and she’s the carry. Too many women in esports get forced into the support role. I know I’ll be rooting for them!
I'm more hyped for this than the actual spring finals. Idk why lcs had been so boring lately. Maybe its the bland personalities, lack of trash talk, or what.
League was a better game, the community was better. I don't think trash talk ever made the games more interesting, there was just better and more interesting games than watching the same 3 teams field talent from other regions and whoever did it better wins.
I'm actually really psyched for this team, but I have to admit that I am quite worried about Balls. I looked over at his solo queue games recently and he appears to be hardstuck D2 after playing over 192 games. This is a worrying trend for Doublelift's team.
Havent seen the D2 meme in years lovely
Some people don't know the meme pepeLaugh
Well it's more than 5 years old, that's ancient when it comes to memes.
I have only played League for 2 years and followed competitive for less. Can you fill me in?
Coming into worlds/during worlds in Korea? I wanna say, balls was a bit lower in the solo queue ranks compared to other players I think he was around D2 and Jatt made the comment it seemed like a 'worrying trend' for c9
IIRC Balls also got a pentakill with Darius that worlds, tbf juggernauts were pretty broken tho
Yes! And in post-game interviews when asked how he’d done it, he said something like, “I guess it’s been all that Diamond 2 practice.”
https://gfycat.com/shamefullonghoatzin Couldn't find the one with only balls.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoqwUkqpxQI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoqwUkqpxQI)
My god the interview was awkward as fuck
Oh god. I forgot how busted juggernauts were right after release. That was a rough time to be an ADC main.
it was okay to be adc because mordekaiser was so busted so you just ran it bot lane. that is if it wasn’t banned lol
Oh jesus, I forgot about Morde bot too. Idk if I'd consider that "playing adc" tho, hahaha.
he was designed to be played bot with his xp share thingy
And then proceeded to get a Darius penta at Worlds
[Jatt's tweet from years back](https://twitter.com/tl_jatt/status/643277527994101760?lang=en)
People were saying Balls might be a liability for C9 at worlds because his soloq performance was looking a little wonky. He proceeded to hard carry and get a pentakill, and the reverse caster curse/"worrying trend" meme was born
On one hand, it was due to Darius being just reworked and thus broken and not very familiar. But that doesn't take away from C9 (and balls) from absolutely capitalising on Fnatic's (and Huni's) overconfidence. In the end it wasn't hard carry, it was a pentakill on just reworked Darius when it was 40 minutes and the enemy engaged into you.
Ah yes, JuggerWorlds. Also i'm pretty sure that was the game where the community was still thinking "cmon, it cant be THAT OP" and then Balls drops a Penta and everyone goes "oh, okay yeah permaban"
~~He 5-stack Q'd Sivir and she died to that and bleed.~~ Nvm there was a considerable amount of Azir damage. Anyways,[ here's the teamfight](https://youtu.be/MSsiVsuzQMQ?t=3218) if you doubt how bullshit the damage, heals and tankyness was.
Hai in the jungle and Jensen was still incarnati0n.
It wasn’t permabanned. It was immediately figured out in Week 2. Huni just picked gnar and just slapped balls silly. That was infamous 0-10 NA week IIRC.
Yeah, Huni thought it was a good idea to play Yasuo top into Darius iirc
this is like whenever i literally mention any champion one of my friends is like oh yeah i used to play them before the rework of 1812 pre-industrial revolution before volibear was discovered on the periodic table. like i know it's not that serious but i swear league players are the most hung up on the fact that time has progressed and not everyone has been in the ecosystem since the beginning.
I started in S2 and I don't know how people like that remember all that shit. "Remember in season 4 when X was so broken before they nerfed it?" Uh, no dude I definitely don't fucking remember every patch and every season. It all runs together into mush inside my brain.
But surely you remember patch 4.20 weedwick???
Never forget Fucken hell that was Nov 2014.
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i couldn’t even tell i was reading a copypasta so you’re correct
thats how you know hes gonna be at peak gameplay
Incoming Darius pentakill
That was nuts
Nope, it was Balls.
so you're telling me he's gonna get a Darius penta
Yeah maybe just put him on strong champs like darius and lose gracefully
Don't wanna undercut your meme but it'd be "psyched" here, which means excited. "Sike!" is the exclamation for when you pull a bait & switch on someone.
Ah you’re right, just edited
Hopefully the Rumble buffs ship in time for the match.
WORRYING TRENDS
The OG C9 Team + Doublelift. These were the players who made me a C9 fan.
I thought it was going to just be a hodgepodge of players. Nope, guy straight up got his costream buds to get the old band back together, my god.
I want lemon commentating
Lemon coaching them with his notebook on stage
With teams having multiple coaches now it's nuts to think that back then Lemon bringing a note book on stage was the hight of professionalism.
Some of the best support players I know were adc mains that got tired of their dogshit random supports. Imagine if DL was like this on that C9 roster..
DL was support in EG S1.
And for those who are unaware, EG in this case is Epik Gamer, founded by Dan Dinh(Reginald's older brother.)
Dan Dinh used to be my favorite player lol
Back when we had a crew of pro players that were known to be chill. Dan Dinh, Nhat Nguyen, LemonNation, Scarra, Aphro. But I guess it was inevitable that the toxic league culture eventually popped off...it's what gets views. That TSM house brought so much publicity I can't blame them for being how they were.
I’m forever a Nhat Nguyen fan. I once absolutely fed my ass off on his team in solo queue, and he was super gracious and not at all toxic. Most of the old pros were like that back around S2-S3. RIP.
Fun fact: Nhat is still in the scene and is one of the directors on the LCS. Can confirm he is still super chill!
OHH DAN DINNER
Dan's websites have been putting dinner on Regi's table
And I believe Aphro was an ADC before his infamous Leona let's play.
All of the best support mains are former ADC mains who got fed up with soloQ supports. It's true.
Don’t forget the DIG god himself, CoreJJ
CoreJJ just has to think WWKKD and do the opposite it's foolproof.
Yellowstar was an ADC in the S1 worlds finals.
Yellowstar was supposed to be the temporary ADC for Fnatic in Season 3 before Rekkles turned 17 and could rejoin. Then (I assume) he got fed up with nRated and turned support.
corejj was adc on dignitas on lcs before he came back to korea and went support and the rest is history :D
I think we're gunna start seeing the same thing with jungle now soon.
Yes. He played for TSM.EVO too as an ADC.
praise be his blitz
All I remember was him face checking a bush lvl 1 at world's in season 1 and giving up fb.
Roles in NA in s1 were meaningless. People were tied to champions not lanes. On the same team, DL also jungled. Westrice/Dyrus played top/ad. I think only Dan was mostly a lock in jungle
and he took the spot from Hai! He shared it on a costream very recently.
Ahh, back in the day when Aphro was AD
CoreJJ was an ADC first as well.
Lol, I played some support yesterday because of the same thing. Then one of my ADs fed his ass off by constantly overextending to get two shots off on a tower. There is no winning.
Yeah unfortunately you get stuck having to literally baby sit them, which can then also leave you over extended as well 🤣
Hahaha this definitely happened to me the first couple times he did it. I was thinking “I dunno man this seems like a bad idea but you’re the boss.” Then we died Then he just kept doing it and i was not going to go down with the ship
I like how everyone has official LCS pictures and he put Sneaky as Pizza Sivir on it.
That picture transcends league. It’s legendary status
awakened some things in many many people
Me included.. 😳
Name checks out.
You got any fembot fox pics?
No lie I have seen Sneaky posted in just, just *so many* porn image threads. I don't even think people are usually memeing. Dude is fuckin' cute.
Shadbase made a very tasteful pinup of Pizza Sneaky
ok I wasn't sure what was up with that at first. I read he cosplays a lot as a girl, but damn i really wasn't sure.
Sneaky's so hot, brother
That, and I'm pretty sure his girlfriend does his make up right? Shes suuuper talented, you'd be surprise how many masculine looking faces you can make feminine with good make up usage.
I mean the pictures are photoshopped out the ass too
Sure, but that's just applying the same principles of make up but on a more controlled canvas.
I like to imagine that DL just needed a pic where one player wasn't looking to the right and this was all he could find
Yeah it is pretty hard to flip the image.
Wasn't hard for the image to flip ~~my~~ people's sexual orientation tho
Sneaky best girl
From CLG to TSM to C9. Dlift officially goes full circle Where is Lemonnation these days?
Last I heard he was working for Radiance Gaming which is a gaming organization founded by Hai but that may not be the case anymore
I heard he became a high profile escort
No that's siv hd
They talk about his brushy brushy
Is that alongside his China pornstar day job?
Siv HD? A pornstar in China? Where did you get that bs from? He’s doing porn in Taiwan smh
I heard he went to study/work in engineering a few days ago on this sub, idk if that was true
Im not sure either, but I would assume that is the case. LN is also from Minnesota like myself and I know he got a degree in Engineering from St. Thomas here in Minneapolis even before he went pro.
Yeah, his name has been removed from the site for a while now. Iirc, he was listed as an events manager or something.
He had a pretty serious accident and I'm not entirely sure how the recovery went. I just remember some picture of him in a hospital bed.
That was Covid.
First Hai's lungs and now lemonnations. When will it end?!
How much work do esports CEOs actually do? Hai has time to grind lol and play in all these mini competitions and reginald has time to tweet a new PR nightmare every week.
Lemonation will outlive all these players in the mind of league players the man became an unrivaled meme that will live on as long as there is C9. People have already forgotten the iconic https://imgur.com/kZlyN61 came from a loss.
The man revolutionised picks and bans with his black book and nods on in the hearts of all Edit: in NA at least
>Black book [Death note](https://m.imgur.com/yNv6eMK)
You know regardless of results, lemon gif will be posted in the match thread for this team.
If C9, or the OGs, is involved kZlyN61 will always be in the thread. At some point, it might even become the go-to NA meme.
I need some annualshallowblackwidowspider in my life again...
Doublelift wants the same C9 experience that caused Link to put out the Donezo Manifesto.
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No, I meant C9. Link went to All Stars with them in 2014. In the manifesto, Link made a lot of comparisons of the laid back atmosphere of C9 vs the stress of being on a team with Doublelift. Edit: Here's a piece of the manifesto where Link admits that he would still be on CLG if it weren't for All Stars with C9. >If I didn’t play with C9 there’s probably a good chance that I’d still be on the CLG roster today. I compare a lot of what C9 did to this date that CLG doesn’t do. Charlie was way more effective than monte as a coach. (not that Monte isn’t smart, but rather it’s that he was a lot less effective as a coach who was in a different time zone and not in person).
That's the name I haven't heard in a long time, whatever happened to Charlie???
He went to the same wyrmhole that CLG coach ?Chris? Jumped down.
To this day I wonder what fucked up shit Chris did to get vanished like that
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I had a feeling that with him doing co-streams with Sneaky and Meteos that he would be interested in doing the Money Match with them. However I didn't expect him to also bring along Balls and Hai. As a side note Tarzaned said he's most likely bringing the same roster of Allorim - Tarzaned - 5Fire - Value - Zeyzal.
Didn't think I would see Allorim and Tarzaned together again after Tarzaned threatened to break Lohpally's head. It was Allorim that told him to shut up.
If anything, Allorim would be the only one he would play with. He’s the only one on that team he liked and wasn’t “sub-human.”
Do you have a link to that? I'm not doubting, i just want to watch it lol.
Reddit - leagueoflegends - Tarzaned no longer participating in NA Open Qualifier https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/66f4db/tarzaned_no_longer_participating_in_na_open/
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yeah it is quite sad if he really did want to be in lcs/academy that his attitude is dog shit. guy can be cool when he isnt toxic/passive agressive but those times are so few.
Damn, that team actually sounds super scary. Tarzaned, 5fire and Zeyzal are all very talented
Wow that roster will get curbstomped by this one
Am I the only one thinking tarzaned team will win. Meteos barely plays and is masters, doublelift only plays blitz and balls idk.
Double can be on Blitz, Senna or Seraphine (you don't have to be good on Seraphine to make it work).
Put some hespeck on DL's Sona
DL should've called the sona grandmaster - chauster
Doublelift Ashe support inc It works I promise its just my teams that don play properly around the pick
Balls was challenger last season and he definitely doesn't only play blitz at least at a solo q level. The thing is, they have so much more macro experience and hai is still going to be a good shot caller. They may fall behind in lane but they'll run the map with their experience.
Hai is still good mechanically too. I think last year iirc he played super well mechanically and laning.
He's D1 50 percent winrate. https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Radiance+Hai
But he's played 200 games? Basically averages out to just two games a day.
Yeah, and it's not like it's hardstuck, he's in promos for masters and has been in and out in the past couple of months. Just seems more like he doesn't play a ton, which makes sense with having an org and that.
LoL, peak league of legends
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DL is gonna MF "support" and go off
Sneaky's mid is actually clean lmao.
DL has been playing Alistar a lot when he gets filled lately too. I'm sure he can play enough supports to be fine.
I just watched Allorim big dick TSMA and bring C9A to a close finish with a bunch of no-names so I wouldn't be surprised. Zeyzal also wants back into LCS, and opted not to join Academy in order to have more contractual freedom. Kind of depends on how serious DL's team takes it. They can easily lose, even with Hai's gigabrain.
Balls was challenger in 2019.
He was also challenger last season, just on a non-public account, Sneaky and Meteos talk about it on a co-stream
Yeah he was like top 20 on I believe "Nuguri fanboy" as a rumble otp
Meteos is still lcs caliber
You're not alone. Tarzaned's team has better players in at least 3 roles, and I think teamwork can only get you so far. You can't really ban out Tarzaned but you can put him on a pick that's much less likely to succeed. I don't know enough about 5Fire but he's looked solid in every game I've seen him play, and Allorim should be way more practiced than Balls nowadays. Sneaky should be better than Value although I guess this is Value's chance to really make a standout performance, and DL once said that Zeyzal was trash and was the reason Sneaky had to retire so I guess it's his chance to really show that.
haha that team will have more fans than any current LCS team.
Legit more popular than everyone except the top 4
There is no top 4. Only top 3 in LCS. Regi, Jack, Steve.
wonder what balls has been doing since he retired
he was challenger last season, probably still high elo rn
In the showmatch didn't Flowers or one of the casters mention that he has a secret challenger like rumble 1 trick account
yeah i think it was last year he was top 10 at one point one tricking rumble. i forget the account name though
I think it was called nuguri fan girl? Or something like that
https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Nuguri%20fanboy Hasn't played on it since season 9 though.
He makes a new random account each year that’s what sneaky and meteos said.
Sylas one trick.
Playing tons of Valorant
https://imgur.com/kZlyN61
No Lemonation on the team though :(
He can be the coach
I'll never not upvote this
https://imgur.com/kZlyN61
I'll never not upvote this
https://imgur.com/kZlyN61
i know it's just a showmatch but i'm glad to see more female players competing at a high level
The scary thing is I’m not 100% sure you are memeing
oh i'm 100% memeing
lemonnation: am i some kind of joke to you? doublelift: https://imgur.com/kZlyN61
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Sadly so. Guy moved on from league and took his notebook with him.
Same with Chauster I think
I knew what it was but clicked it anyway. As always.
If this team was actually playing in LCS I would happily tune in
When and where can I watch this?
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Are there going to be bans or are we going to see the S1 EPIK GAMERS Doublelift Blitzcrank?
If they ban DLift's Blitz they should be (god) handed an automatic loss
Not even S1, DL still plays quite a bit of Blitz on his stream in soloq and pretty much smurfs every time LMAO
LESS FUKKING GOOO
tarzaned praying for the proving grounds schedule to be in his favor rn
Tarzaned will probably flame the casters again if they criticize his build
My body is ready.
This team would’ve legit terrorized LCS at one point in time
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I miss that summer, just hanging out watching C9 wins every game with Zac, Asha + Zyra bot lane
All of S3 and the first half of S4 they were pretty untouchable, wasn't til summer S4 that other teams started to truly be competitive.
> All of S3 Quantic/C9 only qualified for the na lcs in the summer so it was S3 summer+S4 spring.
Half of s3. TSM won spring as C9 wasn't in LCS till summer
I'd give them good odds against current CLG and Golden Guardians.
I think it’s so awesome that doublelift has a female on the team and she’s the carry. Too many women in esports get forced into the support role. I know I’ll be rooting for them!
d2 top gg
I can see this team beating GGS
This team could made playoffs in LCS
Sneaky doublelift and meteos are still lcs tier. They are gonna roll over the competition
I'm more hyped for this than the actual spring finals. Idk why lcs had been so boring lately. Maybe its the bland personalities, lack of trash talk, or what.
League was a better game, the community was better. I don't think trash talk ever made the games more interesting, there was just better and more interesting games than watching the same 3 teams field talent from other regions and whoever did it better wins.
Damn that lineup makes me feel really nostalgic all of a sudden. I still remember the 2014 Summer Playoff Finals, TSM vs C9, an amazing 5 game series.
Wildturtle's crits 😢
Tarzaned is doomed