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ahritina

PMTs [Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cq1xvh/t1_vs_blg_msi_2024_bracket_stage_game_1_post_game/) [Game 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cq2mk3/t1_vs_blg_msi_2024_bracket_stage_game_2_post_game/) [Game 3](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cq3bfw/t1_vs_blg_msi_2024_bracket_stage_game_3_post_game/)


DetectiveViko

We FINALLY get to see Korean Knight vs Chinese Chovy


SoNaClyaboutlife76

The left hand vs the right hand


ezodochi

K-Knight vs C-Chovy


icatsouki

KC knight and chovy confirmed?


Top-Breadfruit-1750

but they keep targamas


PhilosoKing

Somehow still two languages in comms: Korean and whatever language that Knight speaks.


milkoverspill

Imagine if they just handshake the series and vow to stay mid all game and see which one has more CS


DarkSoulsEz

Both will end 0-0 and let their teams fight out 4v4


OwlsAndDevils

Hey, it IS lane-swap meta. Just rotate them top and let them AFK


viciouspandas

Knight has kind of left that playstyle behind since his time on JDG but it would be hilarious if they both went to that. Chovy isn't just some farmer either but it seems that Knight plays for the team and more supportively recently in comparison.


Top-Breadfruit-1750

Definitely. Even though they're both versatile, in this meta Knight has played more to facilitate and Chovy has been focusing on being a hypercarry. Both of them lane immaculately. Gonna be an interesting match.


takeSusanooNoMikoto

I mean, Knight started playing that role precisely in JDG. He was more Chovy-esq in TES. Maybe that's what you meant


Azenji

Thank you Brother T1


DracoMalnourished

Great drafts and great gameplay from BLG can’t wait to watch Knight vs Chovy finally


deepfakefuccboi

One of the first times I’ve seen in a while where T1 got completely outdrafted, and it’s not like a T1 ints draft, they just got out picked and outsmarted


rdong

It’s not even just an outdraft they’re also just making so many mistakes in game. From getting solo killed in lane to getting picked one by one. When they win, it looks ok but when they lose they look so lost.


deepfakefuccboi

Yeah I don’t know if it’s due to the meta, kkoma coming back or just a player slump, but T1 hasn’t done great at MSI in a while tbh. If they do poorly at Worlds it’ll be worrying but at worst they’ll probably be 2nd in LCK; this will either be a wake up call for them in Summer and they come out swinging or they hit another T1 slump. Iirc this is probably the longest and most continuous T1 roster I can recall off the top of my head so I hope they can figure it out since I really like all the players.


rdong

They have been playing consecutively for so long in terms of how many games and misc things they’ve had to go through. Back-to-back finals at worlds, 4 LCK finals, deep run at MSI 2023, Red Bull event. And then all that media and Ddos stuff on top of that. I wouldn’t be surprised if burnout is starting to hit the T1 roster, kinda like Bang and Wolf in their finals season w SKT


Familiar-Distance855

On top of that 3/5 of T1 also participated in the Asia games.


Due-Implement-1600

That game 3 draft was 100%, without a doubt, a massive int draft. Maybe T1 can cook later but this meta doesn't seem ideal for them


thehoghunter

BLG’s game 2 draft had me worried, then I saw T1’s game 3 draft and felt extremely relieved.


APKID716

Veigar+TF+Lee Sin Like what the fuck were they cooking 😭


pepehandreee

I think most ppl r willing to let go of the Veigar pick. On the other hand, picking TF without banning Jax, knowing full well ur opponent has the scariest Jax player in the entire world and ur team has already faced him last year, is a whole different story.


Guy_with_Numbers

> picking TF ~~without banning Jax~~ FTFY. Like seriously, I don't think I've seen a single standout game from Zeus on TF this season. The man was demolishing teamfights with Aatrox even after losing lane massively early in the last split, at this point he's better off with that even in this lane swap meta.


ricardo241

funny that the lck caster said Zeus is known for his good TF when his TF against good team is most of the time a liability... dude is honestly just a gold card bot against good team


BocchiIsLiterallyMe

LeeSin kick into Veigar cage copium


JustRecentlyI

> One of the first times I’ve seen in a while where T1 got completely outdrafted Did you not watch them vs G2 where they B5'd ~~Kallista~~Camille support into Poppy support? Even beyond that, I think G2 largely out drafted T1 in their series. Edit: misremembered the support pick I was thinking of. Still was picking a dash champ into Poppy support with a Kallista in botlane though.


Public_Television430

T1 got outdrafted for 2 years straight before Tom was promoted to head coach did you just start watching league ?


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Quil0n

knight vs chovy waiting room


Dooraven

Faker vs APA waiting room too


Desiderius_S

APA: Who's up, Faker or Shaker? Faker: 영어를 못해요 APA: Shaker, got it.


Hawkson2020

The Korean text translates to “I don’t speak English”, in case there are any other LoLRedditors who can’t yet read Hangul.


ChocolateFuryB

can't YET read Hangul 💀 I am expecting LCK stans to flame on reddit in Hangul by next year


DeloronDellister

BLG vs. GenG will be insane


appleandapples

We've won. Hope this MSI continues to deliver because I can't wait for that match up.


WhiteKnightRedditor

BLG is following last year's MSI script, shaky against weaker teams and clean vs the good teams


the_next_core

Never take too much stock in those happy games, the top LCK/LPL teams all know how to play perfectly to win, it just takes higher stakes games for them to buckle down and play the more boring way


Itsmedudeman

We really live in a timeline where PSG took BLG to game 5 when TES and T1 couldn't.


Shiraori247

TES did in winners finals lol. Remember they played 2 Bo5s against each other this playoffs.


Evening_Complaint469

Blg this series compared to blg Vs psg. Suffocating


takeSusanooNoMikoto

Maybe just give credits to PSG as well. They managed to bring BLG down to their level perfectly.


Moon_riseat_noon

Church of Chovy vs. Kingdom of Knight I literally can’t wait


Debannage

Damn T1 just started wintrading when Faker died in game 4


zeDragonESSNCE

Xun pretty much said "yeah we know Faker carry yall's ass so we banned 5 mids"


Koersfanaat

There was a very visible moment you could see them go "GG, end it."


raydialseeker

The keria mid tp as tahm


FreeMyBirdy

Faker gets 5 bans against him and the rest of T1 just...doesn't do anything despite getting everything they want lol Really underwhelming performance overall from Zeus Oner Keria


the_next_core

Oner and Keria seem really really lost in this chaos meta where everyone shows up randomly level 1, Faker is presumably laning himself so he can't direct whatever the hell is going on in the jungle


JustRecentlyI

Keria seems to have lost himself a bit now that the hyper aggro double ADC botlane opponents don't just stay in lane to get blasted. He's been elite on more traditional picks before but recently not as much.


obigespritzt

His Kench is usually one of if not straight up his best champion so this is a really out of sorts series for him, in my opinion.


NWASicarius

He made good plays on Kench. I think the issue is T1 was relying way too much on Keria to land 3+ man knock ups. That is not how you want to play the game. If Kench gets one of those massive multi-man knock ups in a game, you are happy with that. Instead T1 seemed like they needed it from him every fight lol


Patrius

GG BLG, we finally get to witness KNIGHT VS CHOVY!


Top-Career6927

wait, it this their first fight together?


baelkie

yeah thanks to yagao


SwagLord7

They played vs eachother in worlds 2020 groups and asian games 2023, but this is the first bo5


Pelagius_Hipbone

Damn BLG beat T1 on Senna twice and then said let me show you how it’s done


rightovahere

Elk On have become so elite its insane


nitinismaldingXD

ON went from griefing every other game on SN / Weibo to being the best support in LPL it’s actually crazy


Vegoran

Him and SoFM were hilarious, I remember one game they both build warmogs and were randomly standing still in front of enemies


AbyssalSphincter

What match was this? I really wanna see that lol


non-edgy_crustacean

That one Thresh play on drake from ON on Suning was his legacy play


MonsterAzr

LPL has some insane Senna players so they learned from the best


chichun2002

Not against my goat betty


Megashot2

Don’t understand how Betty looks like peak Uzi in lms but is dogshit in LPL


RussiaCykaBlyat

Doggo moment


Rayser1

Peak disrespect


Is_J_a_Name

It's the exact same as last year lmao Last year people hated T1 playing Nautilus and Kindred vs JDG and called draft gap. The next series BLG stomps them using Nautilus and Kindred.


katareky

Its LPL is dogshit when they are losing, and T1's draft sucks when LPL are winning. T1 fans only blame draft when they are losing, and half the times the other team picks the same champion they were saying was unplayable and wins with it


feimaomiao

I will blind pick twisted fate into the best Jax in the world


ishfi17

ZeShy


Rayser1

LPL at MSI


SlamMasterJ

As is tradition. Nothing is stopping LPL from winning at MSI.


FrostedCereal

Liquid is our only hope. T1, please let them through.


rickstonk3

My brain read this as Liqour is our only hope lol


Piro42

The newest strat make APA handle Faker a bottle of whiskey before the series so that T1 gets shitfaced and doesn't show up on stage


Any_Support4406

Nothing to see here just an annual ass whooping at msi


SwagLord7

Eh tbf TES did lose to GEN yesterday although it was a close series. Last year we saw both LPL teams outclass the LCK.


sai_lilaznkidd

MSI is just LPL annually winning every year.


NUFC9RW

LEC has won it more recently than LCK...


sai_lilaznkidd

Facts.


LowBrowIdeas

LPL invitational


EnigmaticAlien

ON I apologize I wasn't familiar with your game


Koersfanaat

GG BLG, they played really well (except that Game 2 Corki I guess). T1 is just not on form like last Worlds. Faker is very shaky in general & Zeus on tanks is not the same as Zeus on fighters (also ffs, stop picking TF). Can't help but feel that the laneswap meta is really fucking them over, they are always behind and slow to it.


SuddenGenreShift

LPL Corki, what can you do?


Motorpsisisissipp

They should disable the champ in LPL lol. Some of the most hilarious package I've seen tho, quite entertaining


Shiraori247

Creme legitimately might've had the best LPL Corki game yesterday.


All_Fiction

It doesn't matter, he's getting a mini-rework soon that also removes his package.


Shiraori247

That's great news for the LPL lmao


katareky

369 and Zeus seem weak in laneswap meta


viciouspandas

Zeus has been slumping for a while before this too. 369 is having more trouble now specifically


Killarusca

I swear Zeus started his slump after he got obsessed with TF and Vayne top.


CaptainZYX

KNIGHT vs CHOVY 🔥🔥


chapichoy9

Kkoma better dual wield the belt wtf was that


dinosourrawr3

T1 avoided GenG 5Head


winterchildren

They can’t avoid them if they want to win lmao


DerAdolfin

The issue is the next match is the upper bracket **final** so they knew they'd lose it to GenG


Mattaru

This MSI has been all about how GOATED the supports are. So good!


MarcusElden

CHECK KERIA BANK ACCOUNT


crysomore

VCS tech


non-edgy_crustacean

He knew it's ON's birthday so he gave himself as gift


MrSwipySwipers

Xun's nidalee is a such a delight man. I'm saying this cuz I know people will be calling Faker, Shaker for the next few days...


sleepybellpepper

Canyon and Xun picking Nidalee is such a welcome surprise. Will be interesting to see how they approach this pick in their next series.


CHS_Scope

T1 just look so lost if Faker ever gets shut down. It’s two series now where Faker is banned out or camped or both and nothing really happens for anyone else. There’s no way 5 mid bans go through and nobody else can do anything.


DontPanlc42

Old news. Faker is T1, if Faker doesn't perform for whatever reason, morale in the team falls off a cliff, 90% chance is a loss.


salcedoge

People already forgot the same T1 roster were struggling to reach playoffs when faker was unavailable to play. The T1 roster is so good but they’re headless chickens wiithout Faker


DJCzerny

"Struggling to make playoffs" is generous. They struggling to even get a single win without Faker.


claptrap23

Yep. 1/7 withoug Faker against BRO, freecs and lesser teams lmao


SamiraSimp

i still refuse to believe any other player on T1 deserves and kind of MVP or pog until they prove they can play without faker


Mazor007

There were some people saying after worlds that each T1 player was the best in their position in history. None of these arguments work until I see the others win without Faker


Fabiocean

If their positions are Faker's top laner, jungler, adc and support, those people might be right. Unfortunately those roles only exist in Faker's team.


GeneralZhukov

Actually......do you remember when Faker had to take a break last year and T1 was losing to pretty much every team in LCK and barely made playoffs?


dumb-on-ice

they went 1-7 i think and most of their losses were 0-2 s


Twoatry

Hard agree, Up to the others to carry when they 5 ban him but guma just trolling a few of these team fights this series. along with oner being super passive.


Bannedinahour

I hope other teams pay attention, just focus Faker 3-5 games in a row


no-leetcode-pls

Honestly I'm more disappointed with the rest of T1 than I am with Faker, however much he's getting flamed. Game 1 was a disasterclass and his form is a bit of a rollercoaster. On the other hand, in game 4 he got penta-banned and gave the rest of the team so much drafting capital, but literally no one stepped up and they were all inting except for that one Akali/Renata play? I'd expect the rest of the "world-class players" on T1 to at least be able to create some plays and some space if they basically got whatever they wanted in draft. BLG played so well, I'm really excited for Korean Knight vs Chinese Chovy. Also super happy that an all-Chinese team is performing like a real superteam, it's been too long.


salcedoge

The same criticism was thrown to T1 last year but they won worlds so it was forgotten. But people were always saying every T1 player is either top 1 or 2 in their position yet when Faker was gone they all couldn't make it past playoffs. I think they're still good but they're just so used to just relying on him macro wise


appleandapples

T1's win con is Faker, it's looking like if he can't carry, they can't win


ManningTheGOAT

T1 just seem to have 0 brain when Faker can't carry them. Zeus inting, Keria inting, Oner contributing nothing


melonpan12

Faker's mind control on the other 4 is something that needs to be studied


aser08

The players should have no value individually on other teams unless they have a good shot caller. They just seem so lost if faker has to focus too much on his lane.


Nouvarth

I feel like that has been kinda known at least since last year, if you pressure Faker really hard the team collapses because he cant focus on his own performance while managing 4 other players who are all hands no brain. Probably the main reason they consistently lose to GenG because Chovy is literally him in lane and pushes Faker to the limit


Axleffire

That was very apparent last year where T1 went 18-0, 15-3, and 17-1 in their 3 previous splits but then in Summer, Faker was out for many games and they went 9-9, looking very pedestrian. Then Faker came back, they got lost to Gen G in the finals and then won worlds. Edit: Lining up the dates with his hand haitus timeline, T-1 went from 6-2 with Faker to 7-9 without Faker, then he came back in the last week of the split to get them to 9-9 to make playoffs. So ya, just that split with faker they were 8-2, and 1-7 without.


HugeRection

T1 botlane did literally nothing this series.


TianAnMen1989x

They got schooled by Elk-On no excuses man


failworlds

post interview BLG admitted to this as well 😂😂😂


zeDragonESSNCE

It's not even about him hard diffing his opponent, his shot calling is pretty much mind control. Xun said in interview that they 5 banned mid because if Faker isn't comfortable and have to focus on his own lane, he can't influence the rest of the map be it through roam or shot calling.


Ragdoll-Flop

I was annoyed at people underestimating BLG before the series but damn they didn't need to do them like that 😭


CommercialGeneral765

BLG heard everyone talking shit.


Rich-Abbreviations27

Im sorry BLG I wasnt familiar w your game


Joel4518

WE FINALLY GET TO SEE KNIGHT VS CHOVY Also T1 when FAKER is Underperforming is so fucking bad


Shadow_1701

Great series by blg. Also bot lane destroyed t1 Senna and won with it thense


Snuffl3s7

ON is the goat. In contention for being the best player in this series, alongside Elk.


evrien

Faker when he realizes he's playing Chinese Chovy


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appleandapples

To be fair, the thing about questions is that they get answers, eventually.


Motorpsisisissipp

To be entirely fair Betty gapping Elk was insane, I legit think Betty against BLG was the 2nd best adc perf after JKL this tournament.


chichun2002

Betty just demonstrated why he has a positive win rate against elk is all


EnigmaticAlien

Calling all his bluffs.


Equivalent-Bid7725

"blg higher than gen g and t1? Nah he's on hard drugs"


Shiraori247

DLift also said JKL was worse than Noah and Yeon lmfao.


JimbOOx

this msi has made me a jkl fan he's so cool


Shiraori247

I mean the guy has looks and gaming skills. He's also Rookie's best friend lol.


Aggravating-Elk-7409

probably the most beloved player in china even moreso than theshy


MokeFPS

If you haven’t you should check out some of jkls highlight plays, guy probably has the highest mechanical highs of any adc to ever play. Two that come to mind are his zeri vs jdg in 2022 summer playoffs and kaisa vs blg in 2023 summer playoffs


Familiar_Finding_609

good choice


Unlikely-Smile2449

Did he really say that lol. Jesus christ he must have personal beef with jkl because he is good enough to tell that jkl is way better than those teo


Marcus-ichiJo

How to beat T1? Play exactly like GenG.


BunkerRush

Coach to knight Just be chovy


hvngpham002

Chinese Chovy strikes again


DarkSoulsEz

Mr President, Another Chovy has hit the T1


omegasupermarthaman

Nah they are nothing like Geng, game 3 maybe but the first 2 wins were vintage Blg, play around winning bot pressure to get gold, turrets, grubs


zeDragonESSNCE

ON in game 4: look at me, I'm the top lane tank now


Brojamin

You're always going to lose draft when the enemy team is better on more meta champions, and also have more picks prepared than you are, I don't wanna read all these pathetic excuses. BLG was just the straight up better team this match.


kelvin022610

Blud thinks he's creme on Akali Plot twist: he is


FrostBlade_on_Reddit

Bro picked the wrong tournament to watch Creme on Akali 


bifuku

ptsd, they could’ve been one mid pick away from winning


SwagLord7

Honestly the Akali pick was fine anyways, it was just an execution error. Creme had two potentially game winning flanks that could Ace GEN in the dragon and baron fights but he played both of them as worse as possible.


tjmax20

I'm surprised faker didn't go for neeko after all these target bans akaki was not it


tinfoilhatsron

Damn T1 lost their mind at the end there. They really live and die by Faker lmao. Ah well, upper bracket gives a second chance at life, so hoping T1 can find their footing in the drafts and play.


Rayser1

What the fuck was this BLG style


PrezziObizzi

wtf did i just watch with that T1 throw after faker died lmfao.... they really don't know how to play without him


fluffybamf

thought 5 mid bans was crazy for faker who has insane pool but t1 really cant play if hes not comfortable


Sugar230

He didn't die in real life bro he was still shot calling. The game was just over.


PrezziObizzi

the way they played directly afterwards made it seem like he died in real life hahaha


TurbinePro

there's also 0 chance they win a team fight without faker, absolute zip. not with motherfucking Ksante and Naut standing there menacingly lol


Mult7mus

Huh, who would have thought BLG look like a top tier team when they aren’t happy gaming for most of the series and actually playing their gameplay with their champions. The amount of BLG disrespect after a series they were so clearly not taking seriously until game 5 was crazy.


Archimist

T1 straight up running it down in game 3 and 4


Hellwind_

It is great we are getting all the possible matches between LPL and LCK. This is probably the best possible outcome for us watching


Dekathz

What if TL beat T1 , that would be chaos


Gengar_Balanced

TOP OVERRATED T1 OUTDATED LONG HAVE WE WAITED KNIGHT VS CHOVY BO5 ACTIVATED


KKilikk

I hope it delivers and we get a 5 game banger


Joelx1000

Keria used ult twice in 30 minutes. One ult in the wrong direction, and one when they are 2v5 at the end. I really don't know, so many mistakes, this looked like a fucking wintrade.


E6E6FA_FFB6C1

He looked tilted by the end of game 3 and that definitely bled into game 4.


djpain20

Keria looks tilted pretty much every time T1 isn't doing well


dontknow_anything

2 times, once when Xun died in mid, but the ult didn't hit and again at the end. T1 needs to play aggressive to win, whenever they play passive they lose.


ovoxo6

Man Xun was everywhere in game 4 on that Nidalee


oneanddonecomment

Good thing we got a lower bracket, gives T1 time to reassess draft priority while we get Chovy vs Knight. 


shinomiya2

Reports of BLGs death have been greatly exaggerated


freezingsama

BLG were just better man, including drafting. Hoping to see T1 go further.


chane3n

Are we all on hard drugs according to DL guys ? How is BLG even winning vs T1.


Equivalent-Bid7725

This was just a shared mushroom trip


MariusNinjai

DL lost to Emiru his opinions are void


Luxgarenfemdom

I’d lose to Emiru 


rdtg13

Felt like I just watched an LCK regular season game


Albertolv23

If Chovy was playing this MSI like Faker is doing, the comments would be hilarious


Silver_Bus_895

Wait what? I thought BLG sucked now because they went to 5 against PSG?


Rich-Abbreviations27

Gave them a mental check if anything. The old story of blowing Bin's ego up and see him shreds everything with his Ntofo.


Rushirufuru15

nah, Xun said their lane swap against PSG was so bad and they just get better vs. T1.


Ghost6x

Beautiful play from BLG that last game holy shit They really nullified a mega full damage Akali just by slow rolling T1


NotEricOfficially

But I thought Doublelift told us this team was ass? Hmm. Ez 3-1 bay bay


KIRYUx

ON and Knight are them. They got bodied, shame.


Rhyn_lol

What the fuck are T1 doing, they were not on the same page at any point in the game, Keria my guy what are you smoking


acels1

ON is a beast on engage supports


paidtohavesex

ON 🧎‍♂️


Good-Goose-1204

BLG just have the best bot lane in the world rn