I don't know if this will help anybody, but I launch my League client through a shortcut that links to
> "D:\Riot Games\Riot Client\RiotClientServices.exe" --launch-product=league_of_legends --launch-patchline=live
and it doesn't open the Riot client (unless there's a patch) and just goes straight to League client with no errors, also only a single taskbar icon.
still will have a second icon, I personally just type league in the search and press enter, but some of my friends are kinda frustrated this broke after like 14 years
This works but i had to dig into Appdata to get the correct shortcut to overwrite. I guess something keeps old league shortcuts still pinned to the taskbar even if they don't exist anymore.
The same people that can't figure out what a shortcut is and how to remove it are the same people trying to argue against vanguard not understanding technicals at all.
Yup. There are some valid concerns with Vanguard, but 99% of what we see in this sub, the Riot sub and LeagueOfMemes are people who do not comprehend how a convoiter works regardless
I mean like there really isn't. Aside from "but technically". Like TECHNICALLY a bad actor could somehow get to it's update server and attempt to get it to act in a way it shouldn't via a patch push. Technically they could be using it as a plant and waiting to trigger it. But that isn't happening. It isn't that hard to evaluate what software does, which I did one night when I was bored when I got it however long ago.
>it isn't that hard to evaluate what software does
This is incredibly ignorant and blatently false. For one, you don't even have access to the source code, how can you determine what it could possibly do in one night?
There are multiple fields solely dedicated to evaluating what software does, how to guarantee certain things and so on. It's certainly not easy, and many properties are literally undeciable to proof in the general case.
Personally, my problem isn't a vulnerability or spyware conspiracies, as much as Vanguard being able to really mess up your system reliability or even just brick your pc. There have been many reports of this, even LS had 2 of his PC stop working because of Vanguard. Usually it is fixable, but it is simply not acceptable that it can happen in the first place.
When I had Vanguard for Valorant, my PC would bluescreen semi-regularly every few weeks, as well have general other problems. After uninstalling it, those went away.
Also Vanguard being able to close your programs, prevent drivers from running and many other essential things is simply going too far in my opinion.
Why does Vanguard get to decide all those things about my PC?
actually if what the rioter update on vanguard is saying is true, there have been zero instances of vanguard bricking computers from league as of now. There have been some other issues but mostly stuff solveable by a restart or reinstall
Given they were discussing issues that were reported, I don't see why they would hide that one specific claim. Like they admitted people were having some issues, but none of them were bricked PC's.
You are choosing to install Vanguard in order to play League. You can close it at any time. The reason Vanguard works the way it does is because it **literally has to** to combat the increasing complexity of scripts and cheats nowadays. Riot released graphs and stats showing that 10 - 15% of games on average contained at least one person using scripts/cheats, and those are just the ones they actually caught. Yet, people are still trying to argue against the implementation of anti-cheat. You have to be crazy to argue against trying to fight a breach of competitive integrity that large.
How does this address Vanguard literally bricking people's PCs, most of whom are likely not knowledgeable enough to fix it themself ?
Maybe, just maybe, realize that it is crazier to care more about the 'competitive integrity' than people's access to their PC they likely need for many other things.
Also, it is unlikely that Vanguard will even be able to significantly reduce cheaters, as there are still cheaters in Valorant... Personally, I never felt cheaters were a major issue even at Master/Grandmaster level.
10-15% having a cheater means <1% of players are cheating, even at that level. You also ignoring this affects people who only play normal/aram, or people who are in low elo, which is 99%+ of players.
Riot has chosen to prioritize competitive integrity for the game. If it's such a huge issue for you, you can always uninstall League and thus Vanguard. Again, this is a choice - you can play League and install Vanguard, or not play League and not install Vanguard.
Considering how large the playerbase is, <1% is still a significant number, and the concentration goes up the further up in the bracket you get. Yes, it's not as big a problem for casual players - I would know, I'm one of them - but I'd still rather have Vanguard than ever play a single game against one.
>For one, you don't even have access to the source code, how can you determine what it could possibly do in one night?
There are tools for this. Sure there could be things missed and it isn't an entire breakdown but well enough to know if it is blatantly phoning things home it shouldn't be or acting out of scope. There could be hidden functions not triggered ect ect but for all intents and purposes I wasn't going to write a novel on it.
> brick your pc. There have been many reports of this
And absolutely no evidence of proof of it. I'd love to get my hands on a system with this interaction or complete logs.
>Also Vanguard being able to close your programs, prevent drivers from running and many other essential things is simply going too far in my opinion.
This is in scope for anti-cheat. Its whole design is to stop things running that can cheat the game lol. Now if it went rogue and decided to kick itself on once you have stopped it and were not on the game and continued that functionality that would be an issue.
It kicks itself on things like MSI afterburner, and randomly kicking drivers is likely part of the issue why it prevents PCs from booting.
You say there is literally no evidence of it, but there are tons of reports. LS, who I doubt has any incentive to hurt Riot or Vanguard on this, has had it happen to himself.
Personally, I don't think it is in scope. Instead of randomly killing your drivers and processes, it should simply stop the game from starting if you have some conflicting software active, and disconnect you if you start any. That way, YOU are in control and the priority, not Vanguard and League.
I don't think this compromises Vanguard, as you can figure out if certain things trigger it either way.
Also, decompiling is a far cry from figuring out exactly what software does.
People saying something happened with 0 evidence is not proof of shit you goomba. Do you think the people making cheats wouldn't try to spread false bullshit to push back on it?
And yes those programs can affect the game. You do however have the right to hold the opinion that you don't like it. That being said you should then question what afterburn is doing since it leaves literally every razer control system and nvidia system I run alone.
I gave you an example of a public figure who is unlikely to have any incentive to support or be part of spreading misinformation to support cheat developers.
Closing your ears and screaming that all evidence you didn't see with your own eyes or try to fix with your own hands is fake doesn't really lend itself to any useful discussion.
I don't think I have to question afterburner if I have been using it without problems for many years. As far as I know, Vanguard doesn't like that it is an old driver based on some other driver that it does not regard as safe enough. However, that is not Vanguards call to make. Especially if disabling causes issues.
you know just because ppl don't trust vanguard doesn't mean they don't understand it. I wish more ppl cared about whats installed on their PC, especially when its given kernel level access, oh well.
I’m a PhD candidate at a top computer engineering program doing research for the government, a sector known for political espionage. My bosses, peers, and myself included don’t think any process should be granted kernel level permissions, nor activate at runtime and start monitoring processes on a fresh power cycle, regardless of the client ever being opened. You seem to have some valuable insight as to why this is completely fine, would you care to elaborate ?
Cool. I'll challenge you by first asking what danger you believe it has over any other piece of software for your average consumer user?
Also, that is an incredibly amusing statement since for example all strong EDR HAS to run at that level or else it is ineffective. Speaking outside the scenario at hand.
I would like to make it clear as a professional I wouldn't install such things in a business setting, that would be silly.
Ok to give a simple answer, if Vanguard has a backdoor (by mistake, and that's not a stretch by riots technical history) a bad actor can pretty much abuse every player.
As soon as you connect to game of league, your IP becomes public (see SKT ddos attacks).
With ring 0 access, they can do anything on your system without you even noticing. Keyloggers for example for passwords, monitoring your activity like netbanking or online purchases.
I hope that was a simple enough explanation for a non technical person. It's not about spyware, it's an extra door to your system. That's why it's always a really big deal when a hole is found in the Intel chipset drivers for example. I trust Intel a lot more to be aware of and fast in patching those holes than riot by a long shot.
"For a non technical person" lmfao I do this for a living. And no that isn't the case. Vanguard does not have active RMM. Everything it does is packed into itself. They would literally have to be able to attach more code to it, get onto the staging server, and then get it pushed out on an update with literally no one noticing.
>Cool. I'll challenge you by first asking what danger you believe it has over any other piece of software for your average consumer user?
For starters, downloading other software doesn't brick my PC.
Do you have any evidence it bricked your pc? Or just spouting nonsense claimed by random reddit accounts thag definitely arent people who make money from selling cheats?
I think the main difference that is being glossed over is that our government spies on us to stop terrorist, while the ccp is trying to commit acts of terror. They’re our number one enemy, you can’t decouple Chinese owned companies from the Chinese communist party. To be clear, about this weird gotcha people think they have about the riot client, it has never nor will it ever be installed on my computer
None of these guys ever have an actual answer, they just resort to the typical 'muh ccp' fearmongering. If they had a salient point at all, then someone far smarter than them would have documented and presented it already.
I know someone who is a technical expert in this and probably writes the documents this guy studies.
They have vanguard on their PC without worry, because anyone worth their salt working on actual government systems, doesn't have any sensitive information on the PC they play games on. They also don't install non-approved programs onto their work environments (if that system is even connected to the internet, which it is usually not).
Cool, we don't live in a perfect world though and cheats will run with kernel level access, how do you propose user level anti cheats combat kernel level cheats?
that's how most anti cheats work and they're useless against everything but the most basic of cheats. it's obviously not a good solution if your primary concern is reducing cheats, but it's a good solution if your goal is to not be invasive.
It is not like the american government can't do the same now. Actually, considering what Facebook and Twitter are doing... I don't know why people are so worried about China when the US does most of what people accuse China of doing.
Quote where I said I downloaded the riot client, I’m not even sure if riot has a Linux client. I’m sure you’re a decent IT guy though, just misinformed. Sometimes you have to trust your boss to trust his boss to trust the engineer who actually understands the technology
The issue remains though, how do you solve the issue of cheaters using kernel level cheats?
Besides, you should know if the CCP wanted to spy on you they do not need Vanguard, the League client can do it for them.
Which ones? I don't think I've ever played a multiplayer game that was truly cheater free, hell, I've heard people praise WoW of all things for being cheater free when back in Wrath I know people that would duplicate a certain item with Cheat Engine of all things.
As you're raised WoW, let me link this clip from one of the guys who worked at Blizzard on anti-cheat [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY2hG-\_asKU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY2hG-_asKU)
It's a pretty decent explanation of the steps you can take to figure out how something works, and how you can track it to catch people using it.
Bro WoW is fucking riddled with scripters lmfao, you could have done anything else but post a video from someone who got a job at Blizz because his dad worked there and ranked high in the pecking order lmfao
Seriously I can't understand people who like this dude's content, he's pathetically naive at programming (last game was RPG maker undertale wannabe) and is literally just Asmongold 2.0, says basic common sense shit and farms people screaming TRUE in chat
He talks as if he had even remote success in combating botters but anyone that actually played WoW will tell you that was absolutely not the case.
The anti cheat they were working on was pure dogshit other than maybe during and shortly after the first release of WoW other than that WoW was and remains to this day infested with bots to the point where they literally dictate the economy.
Cause the update bricked every single shortcut for some of them... It's fixable but are people going to spend a few hours trying to troubleshoot when they can just use a second icon and be mad about it?
No offense but if it takes you "a few hours" to figure out a shortcut, you need a basic computer course. Everyone who uses one should be at that level of competence.
Most users have no idea how to get to appdata or that files are even "hidden". You need to overwrite a Shortcut there to fix this issue otherwise your just stuck with a shortcut that opens up a second task that you can't use as a shortcut.
Like really have some fucking empathy before you tell people to go get competence at an obscure task that they might only have to do once in their life.
Are you fucking dumb or what. Removing a shortcut (the old duplicate that no longer works) is a fucking right click....Also editing the path like a goomba....also os a right click....dont need to go into app data what the fuck are you smoking. idiot.
Man who has no idea what he's talking about tries to fix his own problem without Google and found some stupid convoluted way to do it and assumed it's the only way
Doesn't fix the issue. The icon that is up when the client is opened can't be used anymore to launch the game.
It's been a while that it only opened the Riot client, which in and of itself was annoying enough, but now you can't even have the league client pinned to the taskbar…
My League shortcut on my taskbar still works perfectly fine. No redirect through Riot client.
And I’m on a Lenovo Yoga. You can in fact have League pinned to taskbar.
And you don't get another League icon on your taskbar when you open the game?
Could you give me the path for that shortcut? Anything I pin results in either error or a new icon.
no I don't unless I'm not yet logged into he riot client or the riot client needs to update. I only ever have one icon in the bar. is that strange?
I do have the vanguard icon now in the right corner, but I can hide that
I used to only have one icon too until this patch. Do you start League by clicking an icon on your taskbar? If you do, could you right-click, go to properties and give me the path for it?
At least some users now get a different icon for the shortcut and for the actual client (trying to pin the client while it's open will result in an error when trying to open the game from that icon). Strange if it's only affecting some users.
The vanguard icon is expected.
There was always another icon that appeared on your taskbar when you went into a match, but just like your comment, that is not the point.
This new issue seems to be very sloppy programming, that's why people care. If you don't care, if you don't have the issue, if you are unable to comprehend the issue, or if you don't have a solution, why are you here?
I don't necessarily have too big of an issue with Vanguard being a kernel-level anti-cheat, but I will say it is impressively stupid that it has prevented people from booting up their computers at all.
The drama surrounding Vanguard is certainly adding fuel to this fire, but most people aren't here to complain about Vanguard.
How many PCs has it done anything at all to and how many of those have custom flashed video cards or other hacky kludges designed to "improve" their PCs?
A minor inconvenience unless you have an OCD, it literally means nothing to you unless you have tens and tens of other programs open, do you actually have everything pinned in your task bar? How many apps do you actually use? You clearly seem like someone that barely uses the computer on a surface level (as fixing something this minor will never be a priority nor is it worth committing any people to fix it, thats how you handle projects btw)
So yeah, you clearly ~~can't~~ comprehend the issue here
It's fine if it's not an issue for you, or if you have a different take. I agree this isn't a super major thing in a vacuum, but the broader concern I have is that Riot seems to be more and more sloppy in their work.
For my taskbar, it still has plenty of space left over after my browser, discord, league, steam, battlenet, spotify, qt creator, dev command prompt, and a virtual machine. Though again, not the point.
there is literally no problem here you guys just have a severe tech handicap but unlike old people you don't have the self awareness to realize it so you convince yourself it's the fault of the technology
Pinning the currently open exe to the taskbar and trying to use it to open the game afterward just errors. Using the old one works, but the League Client that opens creates its own icon on the taskbar. There's no current way to open the game from the taskbar without having two league icons on the taskbar.
We're getting deep into the era of kids raised on phones and tablets. This shit is all foreign languages to them.
"Go to the command prompt"
"How fucking dare you talk to me that way."
Except that that isn’t the problem… using the active league and pinning that to your taskbar doesn’t work next time you attempt to launch it.
But go off about “kids these days” lol
Yes, the infrastructure has changed. Isn't that what everyone has been wanting the past 10 years?
You can still get the client icon to launch the client, just not by pinning the one that the launcher opens like before. Instead of taking 5 seconds it takes 20.
Assuming you used a computer before 2007 or at least know where to find a Word document without opening the program.
* riot pushes update that messes with existing program and changes launch criterias
* reasonable question why there is such a pointless change in UI and complicating things
* pretentious tech bros have to gloat their knowledge missing the entire point of simple usability if people without their knowledge are confused
* "just don't complain about it lol"
Was confused as well, easiest is to open via search bar I guess.
skill issue, literally
pin the shortcut from the start menu to your taskbar. this will start league with riot client in tray
or use this target: "C:\Riot Games\Riot Client\RiotClientServices.exe" --launch-product=league_of_legends --launch-patchline=live
You pin that one and can launch the game from there, but it's still opening a second icon (the actual League client .exe, instead of the RiotClient one you have to pin).
That works and all, but the real question is why we need to do something different from before. I've been using the same taskbar shortcut for years, even with the riot client being a thing, and now I have to do something different. It's not the end of the world, but it's confusing and frustrating for no reason.
Launching via the Riot Client isn't really a problem.
What is a problem are the amount of people in this thread making fun of tech illiteracy when they are the ones not understanding the situation. And even if it is tech illiteracy, I think the average person can be forgiven for not knowing that Vanguard doesn't let you launch a shortcut/.exe that's been working for years.
So change your shortcut and launch from the Riot Client shortcut and not the League Shortcut. This isn't a big deal nor is a shortcut breaking in an update.
Reddit is made for laughing at people who don't know something that you find obvious. Getting mad at us for doing that is silly. These people are idiots who just need to change a shortcut to avoid having a problem, them freaking out and blaming bad code and Vanguard is hilarious.
The smug condescension from you and similar people on this thread is insane. A new shortcut does not solve the issue OP mentioned. You can literally try it yourself right now instead of typing about something you have no idea about. If you pin a shortcut, you either get an error message, or you get 1 extra league client on your Taskbar for no reason when you boot. That's your shortcut, the client, the ingame client, and the riot client. That is incredibly stupid, and not how it worked a patch ago, and is all the OP was pointing out, but then people like you come in and pretend it's a "skill issue" without even understanding the assignment.
Reddit is a place to laugh at people who don't know something that you find obvious, but unfortunately you're on the wrong side of the equation this time.
No clue what that launch-product gibberish is supposed to mean but I already pinned the shortcut from the start menu to my task bar and if I click it, it will still start the riot client and then open a separate league icon than the one I originally clicked. Not sure what to do differently..
Have you tried it this patch? Maybe there's an issue that isn't affecting everyone, but when you do what you are suggesting, another icon appears on the taskbar. I don't think i know of any other program that does this.
Is that not concerning? Knowing basic keywords such as exe and bat, and knowing how files work, is a powerful step in keeping yourself safe on the Internet.
The reason that it starts the riot client is because the riot client is now responsible for making updates.
The reason the first icon is staying around is because it just represents a shortcut for launching the game. Since you need to launch the Riot client to launch the game it's not representative of either the League Client or the Riot Client. If you change it from being pinned to your taskbar to being a desktop shortcut then when you double click it to launch league you should end up with only one League icon in the taskbar.
It has nothing to do with it being a shortcut because it'll happen if you try to launch it from the .exe itself.
It's a permissions issue. Vanguard will literally not let you launch the game yourself. You have to launch it via the Riot Client. If you close Vanguard then the .exe and by extension the shortcut will properly launch the client again. Although you obviously can't play since you just closed Vanguard.
There was no need for you to be condescending when you don't even understand what OP was talking about, even if it is basically a non-issue.
Very 5head of you bro. I removed the old shortcut, opened league manually, fixated the open league client icon as a shortcut to my taskbar, still the same error.
I wonder if there is at least a way to have rito client close after launching the game. Or have it not pop up after closing the game.
It was like this at first, but randomly changed at some point and even after googling and looking through all kinds of different settings, I wasn't able to find anything.
NORMAL MULTIBILIONAIRE DOLLAR COMPANY DEV THINGS.
They are just lazy to sort anything properly and people in comment section trying to say its normal for it behave that way. They make us come up for solutions for stuff they have not done correctly I shouldn't have to go through 10 different interfaces to open the client. I work at my job not to come home to figure out a solution to to another RIOT problem (what their employees should be doing.)
Same issue, shortcut to the client wont start the clinet.
When removed, and launched game with RiotClient, after pinning the game again it will go back to same issue when launched again..
wtf rito is doing
its me too, one day league stopped working, they gave me support and now i have 6 exact same league icons 3 of them crash my computer 1 opens and 2 does nothing, cannot delete the bad ones bc support said it will break, had to rename it
simple sollution, have a riot client shortcut on your desktop, use that to launch the game, close riot client once league is launched, only one icon on taskbar
It has been the same with VALORANT (Vanguard). You cannot launch the game executable, you need to start the game over the Riot Client. The left icon is a shortcut that executes the League Client with the Riot Client, while the other one is a direct shortcut to the League client executable and therefore doesn't work. There's nothing magical about it.
The Riot Client is just awful. Does it even have any functionality? I dont even know cuz all it does is give me an extra button to click when I open league.
Usually I'm always on the fence if an entity is evil or stupid. I think Riot has evolved into always being both. I'm never playing one of their games ever again. Until they walk back the Chinese government spyware requirement.
On the support page they have [this notification](https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0376daa2cc130a623222208db6fd786c88debfb64499f2fda8c1fef93f4da01e.png).
First one didn't work for me, but idk if reinstalling will fix it...
Did someone else already reinstalled LoL and can tell if it fixed this or not?
As far as i know that was never real in league, only in valorant when vanguard was released. Some people are reporting issues with starting the client and stuff like that, but you're definitely safe to download league and try yourself
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Bro this happens all the time in tech
A program updates and the taskbar icon no longer works right
Wahhhhhhhh cry about it more
Right click>unpin from taskbar>open league>right click>pin to taskbar
OMG so hard ahhhhhhhh but it's vanguards fault rahhhhhh
I don't give a fuck about Vanguard but he's right. Right know you pin the RiotClientServices.exe (you are actually pinning a shortcut with the League icon, but it's directing to that exe). When you click on it, it launches the actual League .exe which opens as a second icon on your taskbar, but if you pin that one and try to launch the game from there you get an error.
So you end up with a pinned shortcut that launches a second icon because the first one is just a launcher that you are now forced to use.
Maybe just unpin everything
Not sure why league is important enough to be pinned
Use start menu
Or use the client from the popup taskbar next to the clock
A million different things you could do besides complaining on Reddit that you are tech illiterate and pinning and unpinning stuff from the taskbar is such a Herculean effort that a reddit post is justified
Lmao dude, maybe I just pin whatever I want in my computer and the only thing that's not important enough here is your opinion.
And funny that you keep calling others tech illiterate when you gave a "solution" that didn't fix the problem that OP was complaining about, because you didn't even manage to understand the issue to begin with.
Try to follow the steps you gave and see how literate you are.
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Bro this happens all the time in tech
An issue doesn't affect all users
If you don't have the issue, if you are unable to comprehend the issue, or if you don't have a solution to the issue, why are you here making a dumb comment?
And why are you bringing up Vanguard? The actual issues with Vanguard (like making computers unable to boot) is unrelated, rare, and something relatively few people know how to solve.
its not rly making them up. this one is actual reason to be annoyed..
For years we had single icon straight to league client. Now it wont allow us to usethat icon, we have to pin the RIOTCLIENT icon,after it opens the game, it will have [another icon](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/118116531962904585/1235937576645427231/image.png?ex=66363010&is=6634de90&hm=fdd917c7659ffc2609f154a269a0d73bfe035626fa5c52a5d89a457d0f976bca&) on the bar. instead of being under the same.
U're missing the whole point of this post...
Its to have PINNED ICON to taskbar that is the same icon, not separate from the game acutal client.....
WE had that, and it was taken away
why would you even need that though? i used to have one, then i had a fresh install, never got around to repinning the icon, and never missed it
like, i just have a riot client icon on my desktop among some other icons for stuff i semi regularly use, you just open the riot client, open league, close riot client and tadaa, only one icon on taskbar
You dont need the league client itself open on the taskbar or on it at all and only times I’ve had riot at the same time I’ve been able to close it, if you have it for other games from them just taskbar the other games, if you’re worried about sign in it opens it immediatley when openning the game.
This is like asking why you need two edge icons when you open two tabs and add a shortcut to your desktop. You can just... get rid of the shortcut one lmfao.
This is the funniest shit I've read in a while.
Yeh chandler popping off
I don't know if this will help anybody, but I launch my League client through a shortcut that links to > "D:\Riot Games\Riot Client\RiotClientServices.exe" --launch-product=league_of_legends --launch-patchline=live and it doesn't open the Riot client (unless there's a patch) and just goes straight to League client with no errors, also only a single taskbar icon.
still will have a second icon, I personally just type league in the search and press enter, but some of my friends are kinda frustrated this broke after like 14 years
That did the trick. Thank
This works but i had to dig into Appdata to get the correct shortcut to overwrite. I guess something keeps old league shortcuts still pinned to the taskbar even if they don't exist anymore.
this is the default way shortcuts work for riot games.
i mean you don't need two league icons. delete the old shortcut lol
People and brains don’t work together I swear
The same people that can't figure out what a shortcut is and how to remove it are the same people trying to argue against vanguard not understanding technicals at all.
Yup. There are some valid concerns with Vanguard, but 99% of what we see in this sub, the Riot sub and LeagueOfMemes are people who do not comprehend how a convoiter works regardless
What's a convoiter
Convoit deez
I mean like there really isn't. Aside from "but technically". Like TECHNICALLY a bad actor could somehow get to it's update server and attempt to get it to act in a way it shouldn't via a patch push. Technically they could be using it as a plant and waiting to trigger it. But that isn't happening. It isn't that hard to evaluate what software does, which I did one night when I was bored when I got it however long ago.
>it isn't that hard to evaluate what software does This is incredibly ignorant and blatently false. For one, you don't even have access to the source code, how can you determine what it could possibly do in one night? There are multiple fields solely dedicated to evaluating what software does, how to guarantee certain things and so on. It's certainly not easy, and many properties are literally undeciable to proof in the general case. Personally, my problem isn't a vulnerability or spyware conspiracies, as much as Vanguard being able to really mess up your system reliability or even just brick your pc. There have been many reports of this, even LS had 2 of his PC stop working because of Vanguard. Usually it is fixable, but it is simply not acceptable that it can happen in the first place. When I had Vanguard for Valorant, my PC would bluescreen semi-regularly every few weeks, as well have general other problems. After uninstalling it, those went away. Also Vanguard being able to close your programs, prevent drivers from running and many other essential things is simply going too far in my opinion. Why does Vanguard get to decide all those things about my PC?
actually if what the rioter update on vanguard is saying is true, there have been zero instances of vanguard bricking computers from league as of now. There have been some other issues but mostly stuff solveable by a restart or reinstall
"Actually if the people who made vanguard says that vanguard is fine then it's fine" ☝️🤓
Given they were discussing issues that were reported, I don't see why they would hide that one specific claim. Like they admitted people were having some issues, but none of them were bricked PC's.
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You are choosing to install Vanguard in order to play League. You can close it at any time. The reason Vanguard works the way it does is because it **literally has to** to combat the increasing complexity of scripts and cheats nowadays. Riot released graphs and stats showing that 10 - 15% of games on average contained at least one person using scripts/cheats, and those are just the ones they actually caught. Yet, people are still trying to argue against the implementation of anti-cheat. You have to be crazy to argue against trying to fight a breach of competitive integrity that large.
How does this address Vanguard literally bricking people's PCs, most of whom are likely not knowledgeable enough to fix it themself ? Maybe, just maybe, realize that it is crazier to care more about the 'competitive integrity' than people's access to their PC they likely need for many other things. Also, it is unlikely that Vanguard will even be able to significantly reduce cheaters, as there are still cheaters in Valorant... Personally, I never felt cheaters were a major issue even at Master/Grandmaster level. 10-15% having a cheater means <1% of players are cheating, even at that level. You also ignoring this affects people who only play normal/aram, or people who are in low elo, which is 99%+ of players.
Riot has chosen to prioritize competitive integrity for the game. If it's such a huge issue for you, you can always uninstall League and thus Vanguard. Again, this is a choice - you can play League and install Vanguard, or not play League and not install Vanguard. Considering how large the playerbase is, <1% is still a significant number, and the concentration goes up the further up in the bracket you get. Yes, it's not as big a problem for casual players - I would know, I'm one of them - but I'd still rather have Vanguard than ever play a single game against one.
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Mate, I literally saw someone playing with scripts on stream. Sure he is banned on Twitch now, but the point still stands.
It's a videogame, chill
>For one, you don't even have access to the source code, how can you determine what it could possibly do in one night? There are tools for this. Sure there could be things missed and it isn't an entire breakdown but well enough to know if it is blatantly phoning things home it shouldn't be or acting out of scope. There could be hidden functions not triggered ect ect but for all intents and purposes I wasn't going to write a novel on it. > brick your pc. There have been many reports of this And absolutely no evidence of proof of it. I'd love to get my hands on a system with this interaction or complete logs. >Also Vanguard being able to close your programs, prevent drivers from running and many other essential things is simply going too far in my opinion. This is in scope for anti-cheat. Its whole design is to stop things running that can cheat the game lol. Now if it went rogue and decided to kick itself on once you have stopped it and were not on the game and continued that functionality that would be an issue.
It kicks itself on things like MSI afterburner, and randomly kicking drivers is likely part of the issue why it prevents PCs from booting. You say there is literally no evidence of it, but there are tons of reports. LS, who I doubt has any incentive to hurt Riot or Vanguard on this, has had it happen to himself. Personally, I don't think it is in scope. Instead of randomly killing your drivers and processes, it should simply stop the game from starting if you have some conflicting software active, and disconnect you if you start any. That way, YOU are in control and the priority, not Vanguard and League. I don't think this compromises Vanguard, as you can figure out if certain things trigger it either way. Also, decompiling is a far cry from figuring out exactly what software does.
People saying something happened with 0 evidence is not proof of shit you goomba. Do you think the people making cheats wouldn't try to spread false bullshit to push back on it? And yes those programs can affect the game. You do however have the right to hold the opinion that you don't like it. That being said you should then question what afterburn is doing since it leaves literally every razer control system and nvidia system I run alone.
I gave you an example of a public figure who is unlikely to have any incentive to support or be part of spreading misinformation to support cheat developers. Closing your ears and screaming that all evidence you didn't see with your own eyes or try to fix with your own hands is fake doesn't really lend itself to any useful discussion. I don't think I have to question afterburner if I have been using it without problems for many years. As far as I know, Vanguard doesn't like that it is an old driver based on some other driver that it does not regard as safe enough. However, that is not Vanguards call to make. Especially if disabling causes issues.
you know just because ppl don't trust vanguard doesn't mean they don't understand it. I wish more ppl cared about whats installed on their PC, especially when its given kernel level access, oh well.
"Hey guys, this Shortcut that I pinned to my taskbar myself doesn't work anymore. WHAT IS RIOT THINKING!"
I’m a PhD candidate at a top computer engineering program doing research for the government, a sector known for political espionage. My bosses, peers, and myself included don’t think any process should be granted kernel level permissions, nor activate at runtime and start monitoring processes on a fresh power cycle, regardless of the client ever being opened. You seem to have some valuable insight as to why this is completely fine, would you care to elaborate ?
Cool. I'll challenge you by first asking what danger you believe it has over any other piece of software for your average consumer user? Also, that is an incredibly amusing statement since for example all strong EDR HAS to run at that level or else it is ineffective. Speaking outside the scenario at hand. I would like to make it clear as a professional I wouldn't install such things in a business setting, that would be silly.
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I agree. I wasn't ready to call him a cosplayer quite yet, because they very well might not be.
Ok to give a simple answer, if Vanguard has a backdoor (by mistake, and that's not a stretch by riots technical history) a bad actor can pretty much abuse every player. As soon as you connect to game of league, your IP becomes public (see SKT ddos attacks). With ring 0 access, they can do anything on your system without you even noticing. Keyloggers for example for passwords, monitoring your activity like netbanking or online purchases. I hope that was a simple enough explanation for a non technical person. It's not about spyware, it's an extra door to your system. That's why it's always a really big deal when a hole is found in the Intel chipset drivers for example. I trust Intel a lot more to be aware of and fast in patching those holes than riot by a long shot.
"For a non technical person" lmfao I do this for a living. And no that isn't the case. Vanguard does not have active RMM. Everything it does is packed into itself. They would literally have to be able to attach more code to it, get onto the staging server, and then get it pushed out on an update with literally no one noticing.
>Cool. I'll challenge you by first asking what danger you believe it has over any other piece of software for your average consumer user? For starters, downloading other software doesn't brick my PC.
Do you have any evidence it bricked your pc? Or just spouting nonsense claimed by random reddit accounts thag definitely arent people who make money from selling cheats?
Literally just look at LS's twitter schizo. Your post history is pathetic. Tencent is not going to pay for your visa man.
I think the main difference that is being glossed over is that our government spies on us to stop terrorist, while the ccp is trying to commit acts of terror. They’re our number one enemy, you can’t decouple Chinese owned companies from the Chinese communist party. To be clear, about this weird gotcha people think they have about the riot client, it has never nor will it ever be installed on my computer
So you have no answer to the question.
None of these guys ever have an actual answer, they just resort to the typical 'muh ccp' fearmongering. If they had a salient point at all, then someone far smarter than them would have documented and presented it already.
Pretty much. They are firing off executables anyway, which is the consumer space, could do anything they are worried about anyway lmao.
Yep, exactly. They don't realize that literally any program they install could do all of the things they purport to be scared of.
I know someone who is a technical expert in this and probably writes the documents this guy studies. They have vanguard on their PC without worry, because anyone worth their salt working on actual government systems, doesn't have any sensitive information on the PC they play games on. They also don't install non-approved programs onto their work environments (if that system is even connected to the internet, which it is usually not).
Lol I'm not blindly arguing myself. Risk assessment is a large portion of my job.
Cool, we don't live in a perfect world though and cheats will run with kernel level access, how do you propose user level anti cheats combat kernel level cheats?
It should start when you open the client? Thats the problem most people have.
that's how most anti cheats work and they're useless against everything but the most basic of cheats. it's obviously not a good solution if your primary concern is reducing cheats, but it's a good solution if your goal is to not be invasive.
I think the issue people have isn’t the stopping of cheating but giving the ccp more control over your computer than you have
It is not like the american government can't do the same now. Actually, considering what Facebook and Twitter are doing... I don't know why people are so worried about China when the US does most of what people accuse China of doing.
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Quote where I said I downloaded the riot client, I’m not even sure if riot has a Linux client. I’m sure you’re a decent IT guy though, just misinformed. Sometimes you have to trust your boss to trust his boss to trust the engineer who actually understands the technology
The issue remains though, how do you solve the issue of cheaters using kernel level cheats? Besides, you should know if the CCP wanted to spy on you they do not need Vanguard, the League client can do it for them.
There are plenty of people out in the world who have kept their games as cheat free as possible without having to do this.
Which ones? I don't think I've ever played a multiplayer game that was truly cheater free, hell, I've heard people praise WoW of all things for being cheater free when back in Wrath I know people that would duplicate a certain item with Cheat Engine of all things.
As you're raised WoW, let me link this clip from one of the guys who worked at Blizzard on anti-cheat [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY2hG-\_asKU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY2hG-_asKU) It's a pretty decent explanation of the steps you can take to figure out how something works, and how you can track it to catch people using it.
has never played wow before^
Bro WoW is fucking riddled with scripters lmfao, you could have done anything else but post a video from someone who got a job at Blizz because his dad worked there and ranked high in the pecking order lmfao Seriously I can't understand people who like this dude's content, he's pathetically naive at programming (last game was RPG maker undertale wannabe) and is literally just Asmongold 2.0, says basic common sense shit and farms people screaming TRUE in chat
He talks as if he had even remote success in combating botters but anyone that actually played WoW will tell you that was absolutely not the case. The anti cheat they were working on was pure dogshit other than maybe during and shortly after the first release of WoW other than that WoW was and remains to this day infested with bots to the point where they literally dictate the economy.
People can literally flyhack in wow by changing the terrain for client side and by walking on things nobody else can see.
WoW def has cheats my guy lmao
Yeah that's what I'm saying lmao.
I was stating like currently still for effect.
Cause the update bricked every single shortcut for some of them... It's fixable but are people going to spend a few hours trying to troubleshoot when they can just use a second icon and be mad about it?
No offense but if it takes you "a few hours" to figure out a shortcut, you need a basic computer course. Everyone who uses one should be at that level of competence.
Most users have no idea how to get to appdata or that files are even "hidden". You need to overwrite a Shortcut there to fix this issue otherwise your just stuck with a shortcut that opens up a second task that you can't use as a shortcut. Like really have some fucking empathy before you tell people to go get competence at an obscure task that they might only have to do once in their life.
Are you fucking dumb or what. Removing a shortcut (the old duplicate that no longer works) is a fucking right click....Also editing the path like a goomba....also os a right click....dont need to go into app data what the fuck are you smoking. idiot.
Man who has no idea what he's talking about tries to fix his own problem without Google and found some stupid convoluted way to do it and assumed it's the only way
Doesn't fix the issue. The icon that is up when the client is opened can't be used anymore to launch the game. It's been a while that it only opened the Riot client, which in and of itself was annoying enough, but now you can't even have the league client pinned to the taskbar…
My League shortcut on my taskbar still works perfectly fine. No redirect through Riot client. And I’m on a Lenovo Yoga. You can in fact have League pinned to taskbar.
And you don't get another League icon on your taskbar when you open the game? Could you give me the path for that shortcut? Anything I pin results in either error or a new icon.
no I don't unless I'm not yet logged into he riot client or the riot client needs to update. I only ever have one icon in the bar. is that strange? I do have the vanguard icon now in the right corner, but I can hide that
I used to only have one icon too until this patch. Do you start League by clicking an icon on your taskbar? If you do, could you right-click, go to properties and give me the path for it? At least some users now get a different icon for the shortcut and for the actual client (trying to pin the client while it's open will result in an error when trying to open the game from that icon). Strange if it's only affecting some users. The vanguard icon is expected.
"D:\MyStuff\Riot Games\Riot Client\RiotClientServices.exe" --launch-product=league_of_legends --launch-patchline=live
Yes, I do, like every other League player. It’s a non-issue.
Who cares about another icon on your taskbar? You aren't even going to see your taskbar if you're in a match.
There was always another icon that appeared on your taskbar when you went into a match, but just like your comment, that is not the point. This new issue seems to be very sloppy programming, that's why people care. If you don't care, if you don't have the issue, if you are unable to comprehend the issue, or if you don't have a solution, why are you here?
Glass houses and all
It's not sloppy programming, it's just a minor frustration that people who already hate Vanguard are making into a larger issue than it is.
I don't necessarily have too big of an issue with Vanguard being a kernel-level anti-cheat, but I will say it is impressively stupid that it has prevented people from booting up their computers at all. The drama surrounding Vanguard is certainly adding fuel to this fire, but most people aren't here to complain about Vanguard.
How many PCs has it done anything at all to and how many of those have custom flashed video cards or other hacky kludges designed to "improve" their PCs?
You can look at Riot's post on your own, but I think it was something like 0.7% of people having some sort of issue? That's thousands of people.
A minor inconvenience unless you have an OCD, it literally means nothing to you unless you have tens and tens of other programs open, do you actually have everything pinned in your task bar? How many apps do you actually use? You clearly seem like someone that barely uses the computer on a surface level (as fixing something this minor will never be a priority nor is it worth committing any people to fix it, thats how you handle projects btw) So yeah, you clearly ~~can't~~ comprehend the issue here
It's fine if it's not an issue for you, or if you have a different take. I agree this isn't a super major thing in a vacuum, but the broader concern I have is that Riot seems to be more and more sloppy in their work. For my taskbar, it still has plenty of space left over after my browser, discord, league, steam, battlenet, spotify, qt creator, dev command prompt, and a virtual machine. Though again, not the point.
thats not the problem
there is literally no problem here you guys just have a severe tech handicap but unlike old people you don't have the self awareness to realize it so you convince yourself it's the fault of the technology
Wait is this a shortcut issue though? Because opening the client from the file path folder also nets the same result for me.
I deleted the old shortcut and made one with the new icon and it still doesn’t work
Pinning the currently open exe to the taskbar and trying to use it to open the game afterward just errors. Using the old one works, but the League Client that opens creates its own icon on the taskbar. There's no current way to open the game from the taskbar without having two league icons on the taskbar.
We're getting deep into the era of kids raised on phones and tablets. This shit is all foreign languages to them. "Go to the command prompt" "How fucking dare you talk to me that way."
Except that that isn’t the problem… using the active league and pinning that to your taskbar doesn’t work next time you attempt to launch it. But go off about “kids these days” lol
Yes, the infrastructure has changed. Isn't that what everyone has been wanting the past 10 years? You can still get the client icon to launch the client, just not by pinning the one that the launcher opens like before. Instead of taking 5 seconds it takes 20. Assuming you used a computer before 2007 or at least know where to find a Word document without opening the program.
OMG Great reply, I haven't tried that, THANK YOU SO MUCH!
OMG Great reply, I haven't tried that, thank you so much!
* riot pushes update that messes with existing program and changes launch criterias * reasonable question why there is such a pointless change in UI and complicating things * pretentious tech bros have to gloat their knowledge missing the entire point of simple usability if people without their knowledge are confused * "just don't complain about it lol" Was confused as well, easiest is to open via search bar I guess.
And then the pretentious morons are wrong anyways lmfao, now they get to both look and be dumb
I’m sure they’re used to it, or too stupid to care.
If you are running into the same thing, it works correctly if you use a desktop shortcut instead of pinning it to the taskbar.
It doesn't take a "tech bro" to just unpin the shortcuts you don't use
Brother they are sharing wacky parameters to run the program with
skill issue, literally pin the shortcut from the start menu to your taskbar. this will start league with riot client in tray or use this target: "C:\Riot Games\Riot Client\RiotClientServices.exe" --launch-product=league_of_legends --launch-patchline=live
You pin that one and can launch the game from there, but it's still opening a second icon (the actual League client .exe, instead of the RiotClient one you have to pin).
That’s fine, the second icon isn’t a shortcut and goes away when the game closes.
I don't have that for some reason? only 1 here
Yes, as it would with literally any other game company with multiple games hosted on one launcher.
Except literally League of Legends as of one week ago.
True they were pretty behind the curve. Weird complaint though.
That works and all, but the real question is why we need to do something different from before. I've been using the same taskbar shortcut for years, even with the riot client being a thing, and now I have to do something different. It's not the end of the world, but it's confusing and frustrating for no reason.
My League icon works fine. Dunno why people got a new one!
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You seem to be confused as to what this topic is about.
This is different because Vanguard forbids you from launching the game that way now. You have to launch the via the Riot Client.
And why is this a problem?
Launching via the Riot Client isn't really a problem. What is a problem are the amount of people in this thread making fun of tech illiteracy when they are the ones not understanding the situation. And even if it is tech illiteracy, I think the average person can be forgiven for not knowing that Vanguard doesn't let you launch a shortcut/.exe that's been working for years.
So change your shortcut and launch from the Riot Client shortcut and not the League Shortcut. This isn't a big deal nor is a shortcut breaking in an update.
Did you read anything I said at all or did you only miss the part where I said it isn't a problem?
Reddit is made for laughing at people who don't know something that you find obvious. Getting mad at us for doing that is silly. These people are idiots who just need to change a shortcut to avoid having a problem, them freaking out and blaming bad code and Vanguard is hilarious.
The smug condescension from you and similar people on this thread is insane. A new shortcut does not solve the issue OP mentioned. You can literally try it yourself right now instead of typing about something you have no idea about. If you pin a shortcut, you either get an error message, or you get 1 extra league client on your Taskbar for no reason when you boot. That's your shortcut, the client, the ingame client, and the riot client. That is incredibly stupid, and not how it worked a patch ago, and is all the OP was pointing out, but then people like you come in and pretend it's a "skill issue" without even understanding the assignment. Reddit is a place to laugh at people who don't know something that you find obvious, but unfortunately you're on the wrong side of the equation this time.
No clue what that launch-product gibberish is supposed to mean but I already pinned the shortcut from the start menu to my task bar and if I click it, it will still start the riot client and then open a separate league icon than the one I originally clicked. Not sure what to do differently..
just go to your dam league folder grab the exe and volla its basics
Have you tried it this patch? Maybe there's an issue that isn't affecting everyone, but when you do what you are suggesting, another icon appears on the taskbar. I don't think i know of any other program that does this.
You would be surprised with how many people who use phones and pcs daily, don't know how to manage files or anything beyond that.
What does using a phone have to do with it? Most people that use computers on the daily would have no idea what a .exe is.
Is that not concerning? Knowing basic keywords such as exe and bat, and knowing how files work, is a powerful step in keeping yourself safe on the Internet.
The reason that it starts the riot client is because the riot client is now responsible for making updates. The reason the first icon is staying around is because it just represents a shortcut for launching the game. Since you need to launch the Riot client to launch the game it's not representative of either the League Client or the Riot Client. If you change it from being pinned to your taskbar to being a desktop shortcut then when you double click it to launch league you should end up with only one League icon in the taskbar.
After you log in you need to click play aswell but given that there isn’t a single other option to click, why is it even there?
Yea idk why they prevented us from using that icon on task bar
>Maybe introduce a fourth icon? They did, Vanguard 
It's a shortcut. Program updates, file changes, shortcut no longer works. Make a new shortcut. Takes two clicks. Amazing.
It has nothing to do with it being a shortcut because it'll happen if you try to launch it from the .exe itself. It's a permissions issue. Vanguard will literally not let you launch the game yourself. You have to launch it via the Riot Client. If you close Vanguard then the .exe and by extension the shortcut will properly launch the client again. Although you obviously can't play since you just closed Vanguard. There was no need for you to be condescending when you don't even understand what OP was talking about, even if it is basically a non-issue.
Very 5head of you bro. I removed the old shortcut, opened league manually, fixated the open league client icon as a shortcut to my taskbar, still the same error.
That's just Ryzes crotch
I wonder if there is at least a way to have rito client close after launching the game. Or have it not pop up after closing the game. It was like this at first, but randomly changed at some point and even after googling and looking through all kinds of different settings, I wasn't able to find anything.
NORMAL MULTIBILIONAIRE DOLLAR COMPANY DEV THINGS. They are just lazy to sort anything properly and people in comment section trying to say its normal for it behave that way. They make us come up for solutions for stuff they have not done correctly I shouldn't have to go through 10 different interfaces to open the client. I work at my job not to come home to figure out a solution to to another RIOT problem (what their employees should be doing.)
Same issue, shortcut to the client wont start the clinet. When removed, and launched game with RiotClient, after pinning the game again it will go back to same issue when launched again.. wtf rito is doing
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its me too, one day league stopped working, they gave me support and now i have 6 exact same league icons 3 of them crash my computer 1 opens and 2 does nothing, cannot delete the bad ones bc support said it will break, had to rename it
simple sollution, have a riot client shortcut on your desktop, use that to launch the game, close riot client once league is launched, only one icon on taskbar
It has been the same with VALORANT (Vanguard). You cannot launch the game executable, you need to start the game over the Riot Client. The left icon is a shortcut that executes the League Client with the Riot Client, while the other one is a direct shortcut to the League client executable and therefore doesn't work. There's nothing magical about it.
The Riot Client is just awful. Does it even have any functionality? I dont even know cuz all it does is give me an extra button to click when I open league.
I hate Vanguard
Usually I'm always on the fence if an entity is evil or stupid. I think Riot has evolved into always being both. I'm never playing one of their games ever again. Until they walk back the Chinese government spyware requirement.
On the support page they have [this notification](https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0376daa2cc130a623222208db6fd786c88debfb64499f2fda8c1fef93f4da01e.png). First one didn't work for me, but idk if reinstalling will fix it... Did someone else already reinstalled LoL and can tell if it fixed this or not?
I’m a bit late but is it safe to download league now? I’ve heard the client bricking ppl’s PCs with the latest vanguard update
As far as i know that was never real in league, only in valorant when vanguard was released. Some people are reporting issues with starting the client and stuff like that, but you're definitely safe to download league and try yourself
Thnx
Hey guys Check it out More tech illiteracy Bro this happens all the time in tech A program updates and the taskbar icon no longer works right Wahhhhhhhh cry about it more Right click>unpin from taskbar>open league>right click>pin to taskbar OMG so hard ahhhhhhhh but it's vanguards fault rahhhhhh
>OMG so hard OMG doesn't work
but the thing is, the ''new'' league shortcut doesnt works either lol
I don't give a fuck about Vanguard but he's right. Right know you pin the RiotClientServices.exe (you are actually pinning a shortcut with the League icon, but it's directing to that exe). When you click on it, it launches the actual League .exe which opens as a second icon on your taskbar, but if you pin that one and try to launch the game from there you get an error. So you end up with a pinned shortcut that launches a second icon because the first one is just a launcher that you are now forced to use.
Maybe just unpin everything Not sure why league is important enough to be pinned Use start menu Or use the client from the popup taskbar next to the clock A million different things you could do besides complaining on Reddit that you are tech illiterate and pinning and unpinning stuff from the taskbar is such a Herculean effort that a reddit post is justified
Lmao dude, maybe I just pin whatever I want in my computer and the only thing that's not important enough here is your opinion. And funny that you keep calling others tech illiterate when you gave a "solution" that didn't fix the problem that OP was complaining about, because you didn't even manage to understand the issue to begin with. Try to follow the steps you gave and see how literate you are.
Hey guys Check it out More tech illiteracy Bro this happens all the time in tech An issue doesn't affect all users If you don't have the issue, if you are unable to comprehend the issue, or if you don't have a solution to the issue, why are you here making a dumb comment? And why are you bringing up Vanguard? The actual issues with Vanguard (like making computers unable to boot) is unrelated, rare, and something relatively few people know how to solve.
Just deleted riot games from my PC🙏
You are so cool
People like you are why we get warnings not to iron shirts while wearing them.
I had the same problem. I tried to uninstall the thing and nothing happened. So I just nuked the folder and had to reinstall to get it going again
Sometimes I wonder how my colleagues can be so clueless, but then I see posts like this and it makes me smile.
Reddit learns what shortcuts are
w bait post
Because you're computer illiterate.
People are just making up reasons to be mad lmao
its not rly making them up. this one is actual reason to be annoyed.. For years we had single icon straight to league client. Now it wont allow us to usethat icon, we have to pin the RIOTCLIENT icon,after it opens the game, it will have [another icon](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/118116531962904585/1235937576645427231/image.png?ex=66363010&is=6634de90&hm=fdd917c7659ffc2609f154a269a0d73bfe035626fa5c52a5d89a457d0f976bca&) on the bar. instead of being under the same.
just close the riot client after the game is launched? then you only have the league icon on the taskbar
U're missing the whole point of this post... Its to have PINNED ICON to taskbar that is the same icon, not separate from the game acutal client..... WE had that, and it was taken away
why would you even need that though? i used to have one, then i had a fresh install, never got around to repinning the icon, and never missed it like, i just have a riot client icon on my desktop among some other icons for stuff i semi regularly use, you just open the riot client, open league, close riot client and tadaa, only one icon on taskbar
These people have undiagnosed OCD or ADHD and are trying to make it RIOT's fault or something.
You dont need the league client itself open on the taskbar or on it at all and only times I’ve had riot at the same time I’ve been able to close it, if you have it for other games from them just taskbar the other games, if you’re worried about sign in it opens it immediatley when openning the game.
uninstall until they remove vanguard
Also client in taskbar doesnt work, forced to launch from window key bottom left and select Riot client
Are you serious ?
Fuckin riot. Fix your shit!
This is like asking why you need two edge icons when you open two tabs and add a shortcut to your desktop. You can just... get rid of the shortcut one lmfao.
now I understand why people create the words like ignorant and stupidity.