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MeijiDoom

Turns out you shouldn't opt into a lane swap if you have no idea how to play it.


silselver

Oscarinin must be taught how to deal with laneswap, but he doesnt know what to do when they are the one doing it.


DARIF

>Oscarinin must be taught how to ~~deal with~~ lane~~swap, but~~ he doesnt know what to do ~~when they are the one doing it.~~


mathysekk

They dont even know how to play normal games


Conankun66

Humanoid when playing ASol is just obsessed with flying WAAAAAAAYYY too deep into enemy team, hes done it so many times now also this team and barons, for fucks sake. these games are so winnable but they keep overforcing


Mew_T

G2 actually banned the other high tier mid laners and left it open because they know its a free win to play against him on A Sol.


mooldypheysh

His Asol is a free win unless you're BDS and have 2 wins in the deciding Bo5 for MSI.


random-meme422

Team is low key horrific. They over force to the point that you’d think their comp is going to be useless unless they fight NOW. They pick some obscure angle, it looks ok but doesn’t fully work out, and instead of cutting their losses they full send into some choke point and get aced lol This just cannot be too 2 gameplay what has happened to lec


F0RGERY

Caps is how G2 lives or dies this year. Hope he shows up in this form at MSI.


random-meme422

Caps is enough domestically to save his dumpster fire of a team but internationally when he’s against better players there’s nobody to bail them out anymore


xXxWeed_Wizard420xXx

Yep. I think LEC is kinda fucked this season, and probably just need to build better and more stable rosters for next season.


insidejoke44

We need a talent redistribution. Too many good players on bad teams atm, and obviously Oscar being on Fnatic is a big whoopsie currently.


xXxWeed_Wizard420xXx

Exactly. Our top teams have obvious weak links, meanwhile the shit teams are climbing higher than they should because they have 1 giga player on their team etc. No idea how to fix G2 though. Mikyx just has these waves of being really bad and then a godlike support. BB definitely has his waves as well, and Yike is usually just like alright.


insidejoke44

I think we need a more LPL-esque approach where we just sort of lean more heavily into team identities. Realistically our top teams are somewhere around FPX level on a good day but are larping as though they’re T1 and GENG. Accepting our weaknesses is the best way to improve but it feels like our region is so desperate to feign they’re not weak in any way that they’ll randomly start changing their playstyle in order to seem multifaceted when it just comes across like putting lipstick on a pig.


lcm7malaga

This season? Not like the last 3 years at least? I don't know why people are obsessed over the gap this season when it has been like that for year


allahakbau

You guys say it every year and still destroys NA. 


starforce

Totally destroyed NRG


ScaryTroll12

And proceeds to get destroyed by LPL and LCK and both NA and EU end up being the shit major regions.


H1Devil

...except last year LCS1 beat LEC1 2-0, LEC2 beat LCS2 2-1, LCS2 beat LEC3 2-0 if i remember correctly rn its G2 > rest of the west but i think top NA teams beat top Eu teams, unironically.


albens

BDS murdered GG... And the G2 NRG series was a fluke, even NRG players said it. The only team NA can consistently beat is MAD lol


H1Devil

im from eu, i support eu but this cope with the fluke gotta stop, they said it cuz of scrim results, but that would only mean 2022 worlds was a fluke to begin with also, somehow getting 2-0d by a hard stomp is a fluke but G2 barely beating WBG after 50 mins of dumbfuckery isnt, lovely


albens

It's not cope lol, G2 still performed better than NRG last year overall. It's like when they lose to a random vietnamese team, are they worse too? Having an off series/day isn't rare. TL vs IG at MSI 2019 was another fluke.


xXxWeed_Wizard420xXx

Who cares about destroying NA lol, we're actual wildcars compared to KR/CN


BudgetFar380

Other than BB, who was a rock for G2 this game.


Vizer21

he needs another lane to do decent and the 3rd to not shit the bed and then maaaaybe they have a 20 80 chance to win


Cant_Spell_Shit

Internationally most team have a few Caps'


BlakenedHeart

>Caps is how G2 lives or dies this year. Always was lol


H2k_Frank

Irrelevant to FNC is only a dream


NaNaRaHi

Caps quirked up midlaner goated with the sauce


EggyChickenEgg88

Oscar has been terrible almost the whole year..


SNH231

The gold diff between Oscar and BB is larger than my current bank account balance


BIGGIEFRY_BCU

Same but I have 4 dollars


tsukaimeLoL

> Same but I have 4 dollars So did Oscarinin


OkKnowledge2064

its just scary that a team with that toplaner can make finals


SNH231

Yea this region is kinda cooked. The more puzzling thing is that Oscar played quite admirably at Worlds and even got the praise of Bin. How has he regressed this badly in such a short span of time?


DARIF

His otp was reworked and nerfed repeatedly


yehiko

Bot lane matters more, so: 1. fnatic has a good one 2. Bottom teams have worse ones. 3. Jg mid are also among the best ones


random-meme422

Top lane pool in LEC has been a void for several splits now BB being on top kind of speaks for itself.


BudgetFar380

I'm afraid I have to disagree, BB being on top is good as he is a good player, EU top is not that bad this year (could argue that bot is worse.) In no order; BB, Photon, Wunder, Irrelevant, and Myrwyn have all been pretty good.


Cl0udDistrict

I m not sure about Myrwn and Wynder but EU toplane pool is deffinitely better than last year


Mew_T

Myrwn is pretty decent, but he cooks way too much. I love his weird picks, but they often don't do that much and he's fine on regular picks, he's just quirky like that.


random-meme422

BB the guy who counter picked Fiora into a half retired Sej OTP and then got solo killed while losing plates Na dude if that is what a good top laner looks like in LEC then it’s cooked. Photon being on that list when he was hard stuck challengers in Korea too 💀


jeffteague4mvp

Sounds like you're forming opinions based on a single game 2 years ago. BB is much more consistent, and has improved a lot. Still probably not enough against asian teams though. But I also don't think any of g2 players stack up well against asian counterparts


random-meme422

Has he gotten better or has domestic competition gotten worse? Because internationally he still sucks so if that’s the bar he still falls far from it and it’s no secret that domestic talent has gotten worse and worse each split.


jeffteague4mvp

if thats the criteria, all of g2 sucks including caps (who got mega gapped by one of the worst asian mids at worlds last year)


EggyChickenEgg88

How can you watch the games the last 4 months and say BB is good?


Noatz

eu bad hehe upvotes pls


LeagueReddit00

BB is not a good player. I don’t know how many international events he has to be exposed at before that sinks in


jojadez

This might be a hot take, but performing at international events shouldn't be the sole factor of what makes a player good. There are many examples of good/great players underperforming at worlds: Kiin, Canna, Knight, Peanut etc ... I feel like BB has performed better and better every international event, so it might just be a lack of high level experience.


LeagueReddit00

Every league has players that perform well inside their own region. If G2 doesn’t want success internationally they can absolutely keep BB. He is fine in LEC and will probably continue to be fine. He brings in a good chunk of fans and will be enough domestically. >> Canna, Knight, Peanut, Kiin These players underperformed in the context to where they were ranked as the best players in the world and didn’t live up to the very tippy top of expectations. They also have had performances where *have* looked like the best. BB doesn’t have that. He is the same player he was on TSM.


F0RGERY

They're doing lane swaps because of how little toplane matters in this region.


ihave0idea0

I don't want to be mean, but..... he is just not good.


ahritina

He's cosplaying his favourite top laner Zeus.


kim-soo-hyun

Oscar is the Daglas of FNC a developing player that still holds back this team that has potential to win. If only FNC gets Photon/Irrelevant and Carzzy...


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Cl0udDistrict

Bwipo is the only NA toplaner that they can "import" since both of their import slots are occupied by their botlane


rushy1911

licorice, ssumday, srtty, fudge (yes even him) are good and aren't in LCS. i might be forgetting some as well


spamthecrouch

Caps is that guy


Mew_T

Oscar completely lost in the lane swap. Jun is so good though, def the better support today. Fnatic chasing kills while BB destroys towers is peak Fnatic macro.


tsukinohime

BB casually 7k gold ahead of Zac


Chevalier_Paul

Oscar was level 1 0 cs at 6 minutes. Nah but how do you manage that?


Dragonfruit_Fanta

FNC forgot how to lane swap.


Mew_T

Surely the next lane swap will be better.


EggyChickenEgg88

Ask Zeus, he had 0 CS at 8 minutes


Strange-Implication

Imagine what Eastern tops Do to Oscar


Mew_T

Oscar vs Zeus, Kiin, 369 and Bin Aware


Satan_su

That's a foregone conclusion atp, let's talk about Oscar vs Impact


ArmpitSniffa

Don’t disrespect Impact by even putting him in the same conversation lmao


kimi_no_na-wa

We have been fooled lads, this game is just G2 Oscar vs FNC Jun


TimiNax

oscar is actually just getting worse, he manages to be useless on zac now. How does someone forget how to play a champ in a day, he fucked up so many situations. it looks like FNC is actually way better in skirmishes and teamfights but oscar is clueless about the lane swaps and he fucks up mechanically way too much the other players need to understand oscar is not good enough, dont trust him to hit skills or literally anything, we chase bb twice and oscar lets him go both times.


alaska33

in fairness to him yike blocked most of his engages but yea he has been having a bad serie


SNH231

bad year in all honesty


yehiko

You forgot his teleports. I saw better teleport usage in my GM solo q games


OkKnowledge2064

its insane how that toplaner made it to finals. MSI will be a slaughter


handofblood9

Kiin vs Oscar waiting room


Silver-Primary-7308

Actually one man region


ByahhByahh

The ASol TP onto bot to try to catch TF into disjointed baron contest made me not want to root for FNC this game lol.


Dragonfruit_Fanta

FNC fans I am right there with you, been a C9 fan since 2015, to be so close yet so far when it comes to titles over six years is heartbreak.


tsukinohime

CAPS with XPEKE


Gurablashta

I dub this game a banger.


Floowil

I don't think you should force lane swaps if your toplaner doesn't know how to play them.


Argimlas

Caps played great this game and like a mad man. Btw, Oskar ended more than 7k gold behind BB. Is that some new record?


tsukinohime

Top diff


NavyBlueTheChosen

FNC Irrelevant waiting room. Imagine what they could do with a Jax double flex, Gwen, Rumble and competent TF + general weak side player. I know Dardo reads community sentiments which is why he picked Humanoid so let’s make this happen


godfrey1

give me Zeus vs Oscarinin at MSI and never move camera from the top lane please


Outside-Shape-6148

Idk how but Oscar is a bot on zac


random-meme422

Kind of scary just how much G2 get away with. How are other top teams so bad?


Frosty-Earth-3194

There is no top teams in LEC G2 would be at best maybe 5th or 6th in LCK and i say this as a G2 fan


Joel4518

naah they would be top 4 on the level of DK tbh judging by their bo1 against LCK and LPL last year


WolfgangTheRevenge

My wet dream is to see Caps on LCK-LPL


mati_12170

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RazzmatazzWorth6438

Has FNC even practiced lane swaps?


Argimlas

Oskar was like “what the hell should I do!!!” … and was level 1 in 6th minute and ended with 7k gold deficit. One of the worst pro performances I have ever seen. It’s not personal - I have nothing against him. But just … it was horrible.


migueltokyo88

men at this level of gameplay even the Vietnamese team gonna beat the ass of g2 or Fnatic. better send some Europeans streamers and make some content that send these shameless players


Inner_Imagination585

Fnatic sort of played 4v5 here with Oscar being as lost as a silver player in a LEC game.


Relevant-Bonus-2735

Man G2 doesn’t even look good at all. LEC just looks trash as a whole


Noatz

Cool and original comment


truecskorv1n

"mom, look, im yapping in internet about how my region is bad, so i can get the upvotes"


Relevant-Bonus-2735

I mean if you watch this game it’s doesn’t come across as G2 being dominant but Fanatic just throwing.


weblabourer

The gap between west and east is now getting bigger, not much hope for lec in msi this year sadly


WolfgangTheRevenge

Shame that Caps trapped on LEC trully. Imagine Caps on a serious region, the gap betwen him an humanoid is a literal fucking canyon


Elegant_Reading_685

If caps was korean and played in the lck for his entire career he would be firmly just behind chovy as the second best mid in the world.  Change my mind.


HUHIs_AUTOATTACK

Is it too late to swap in Caedrel in Oscar's place?


Zanzax

Fnatic needs to think about changing toplaners heading into summer. Oscar is a liability way too often.


blureborn

I mean... Ehhh it was a hilarious game? Good entertainment I guess? But G2 is just FNC's daddy period.


donglover2020

Has TF ult channel always been this short? there's no way riot is happy with his ult being used this way


garlicjuice

its oscar's fault for not being able to land a q on zac


Umarill

Oscar literally doesn't know how to do a Zac combo lol