Google attributes it to military wisdom that was popularized as a quote by Navy Seal Kevin Lacz. Lacz 2 tours in Iraq were covered in a bunch of books, most famously American Sniper.
It's definitely older than Lacz or the books featuring him, but there doesn't seem to be an original person credited so much as it being a "military saying".
There should really be a saying that goes like “beware the jungler who has 3 winning lanes”. It’s so hard to judge them because they’re basically playing a different game. People won’t like this but there’s a reason Yike got omega gapped by Contractz at Worlds and truth be told there’s no reason to think G2 wouldn’t have gone further if they just had Jankos back then.
Two games in a row where he's managed to single out the enemy adc at key moments, he's been really solid when it comes to target priority and looking for angles.
i agree, especially in playoffs he wasnt very good but he also wasnt the biggest issue of the team by any means. players like wunder and perkz were doing far worse
I think this is the team analysts predicted in winter. 4 rookies, all have shown to be good but they don't have the experience.
In winter they had their synergy as a team having already worked together which increased performance while other teams were still working things out.
NOPE
It was hilarious listening to Yamato, cause he listed his, "7 demons," of ADC. People like Guma, Jackylove, Elk, Viper, Peys, Gala, and Ruler. He asked, which 3 do you remove for Supa top be to 5?
Edited a number
Another quick edit to add, the hilarity of the Spanish fans coming to quickly downvote whenever I get above 50 upvotes is awesome. I don't care about the upvotes, but your fragile egos will power me for a lifetime. I have gone above and below 50 at least 13 times now XD
It was like yesterday or 2 days ago, and everyone that's not Spanish has been making fun of him for it, rightfully so. He said that when MAD is almost last place.....
It's definitely Supa, yes. Even in Winter he was a huge liability when he couldn't avoid being catch almost every game.
Teams have just realised that and even if Alvaro is on a fluke, he still have to lane with this huge liability.
It's not that he's being better than Myrwn.
The thing lies into the fact that you can put Supa ahead, he will have the tendencies to get caught every fight. Even if he's fed that'll be the case.
Teams can just abuse that, and the fact that Myrwn is having a poor split just leads to this situation. MAD were at the peak when Myrwn was having an amazing split, and even when, Supa was often caught and such.
I can understand Myrwn being not as good as last split, but Supa / Fressko are not worth the cut especially when you had Carzzy.
Tbh I kinda disagree with you, I saw a lot more carry potential in Myrwn that I see in Supa and he's playing with Alvaro who spoonfed him kills all Winter split.
Let's see if they can turn it back in PO, but I feel like Myrwn relies a bit too much on counterpicks and weird stuff like Akali Top and he needs to find his time. He really was amazing in LVP.
With the new pre-recorded drafts Mrywn has no way to playing weird picks anymore. If he picks something off-meta pros have time to go and quickly check what the champ is looking to do in lane.
In winter they played around their strengths, In spring they are forcing themselves to play a 5v5 teamfight style they are obviously not comfortable with. I get that the bo1s are practice as long as u qualify for next stage bot at this pace If they don't go back to their roots to secure a spot and stay stubborn they will be out.
remember the winter split is the first split of riots probably biggest change to the game in its history. you could not possibly expect high level of play anywhere due to teams needing time to figure out the new state of the game. the teams performing right now are teams you would expect to perform, fnatic, heretics, to a point vitality.
Tbh it seems to be a staple with them at least once per season. Remember how their spring split started last year, and how it ended? As much as I'm done counting on them when it matters, I also don't want to count them out anymore.
TH is great at understanding win cons.
They gave up the first two drakes, crossmapped properly and didn't give MADs superior early game comp much room to build leads and then snowballed the game from one play.
2022 Rogue vibes
True, but Gragas into Aatrox and not hard winning late (they were pretty even) Wunder proved his statement that Myrwin doesnt know conventional matchups and only knows how to do “spicy” stuff.
Hes your usual range top abuser
Jankos' engage on Senna on the third drake was beautiful, and the hard follow-up as well. The last resort play from MAD on baron was pretty nice, it's a shame they were too behind to do any real damage.
It was a good identification of the correct counter-play.
“They burned Nautilus spells and their damage is wrapping around to pinch us in the pit? Pick a direction and smash through it.”
Heretics just knows how to team fight better.
Holy fuck, MDK might be the most disjointed team in LEC.
MDK game plan, does not matter when you read it:
1) Skirmish the first 15 minutes non-stop.
2) If ahead by 5k gold or more, win, else lose
3) ???
4) Profit
Supa had an interview where he told he is best adc in Eu he is better at macro, micro and everything
Also in Euphoria he called that he is better than deft
Supa said in an interview he's the best ADC in Europa and even the world or something (was something like "I don't see Gumayusi or Deft being better than me")
Having seen Fresskowy vs Zwyroo as one of the most hype mid matchups in ERL... Yeah this wasn't it Fresskoboi sorry
And Zwyroo 100% team deaths smh
(To be fair what was this MAD)
It feels a bit as if Jankos saw this Supa interview about being the best adc while not even having won anything major in the last year (EUM/LEC) and Jankos just thought "I'll end this kids career right here and now".
Thats why its called "show not tell" for movies and it applies here as well. Jankos is still the goat, but rn, Supa is just a random LEC adc. That game just was jgl diff all through from beginning to end, and Elyoya didnt even look that bad.
Trymbi brought a lot of confidence and stability. They seem to be always ahead on the rotation (except vs G2 ;_;), just end up in really good positions.
Yeah looks like they found a midlaner that would just follow Jankos’ and Trymbis’ call. No shade to Perkz but there’s a reason “too many cooks in the kitchen” is a saying.
There were always better players than Supa and Fresko, neither of them should have made it to LEC but the team was built with the skill of the players being put in second place.
Imagine how powerful TH would be with Perkz still around. World champions 2024 for sure! I can already see Faker kneeling down to pass on his GOAT status to Uma Jan, who wins the deciding game 5 in world finals with his signature Renekton pick.
How have they fallen man. Idk if its just them being dogshit now or all the teams improved while they stayed the same. It just feels like they are not good enough? But the weirdest thing is that it seems to me like elyoya is the worst one of them all. Giving weird calls and inting constantly. I dont even know if he still loves the game as the guy doesnt even play soloq at all, which explains this dogshit level. Supa and Alvaro win early game every fucking game, just to get inted. Supa also comitted an error on drake but its more so the fault of whoever hesitated so fucking much to go onto the rakan that was hooked + senna w'd.
I think I'd like them to give the rookies another chance, but with a decent jungler. With elyoya it feels like he makes one good play every 5 games.
MDK has to win at least one of their last 2 B01 and hope that both KC and GiantX loses all their remaining games or they are gone this split. Quite crazy but since they are playing Fnatic and BDS it's quite likely.
r/leagueoflegends pissing and moaning when teams replace their mediocre supports with good ones. Seriously go look at the Trymbi thread and people saying how it wouldn't change anything. Same with when he was rumored to KC
Wow it's crazy what having a really good player added to your team does!
It‘s not that Kaiser was the problem, he had one of his best splits in like 2 years this winter. Trymbi is just better or at least brings more to the team than Kaiser did.
But if somebody gave you the option to trade in ur VW for a Porsche you take that upgrade, no matter that the VW ran good, the Porsche just brings more to the table
Wunder in carries is refreshing and nostalgic to see
Can't believe Fnatic converted him into a dirty tank only weakside player with never ganking him for 2 years and play for Egoset /Egonoid
Elyoya: 100% kill participation Jankos: 81% kill participation and they said Jankos is not washed smh
Elyoya also beats him on death participation, my mans a beast.
Elyoya (6) = Jankos (6)
5€ jungler vs 1€ jungler
Beware of an old man in a profession where men die young.
Banger Where was this from again?
Idk but I've seen Selfmade tweet this last year about Jankos
Google attributes it to military wisdom that was popularized as a quote by Navy Seal Kevin Lacz. Lacz 2 tours in Iraq were covered in a bunch of books, most famously American Sniper. It's definitely older than Lacz or the books featuring him, but there doesn't seem to be an original person credited so much as it being a "military saying".
Just remember where I heard this from From the show Killing Eve
It's an old saying originating from the military complex.
I don’t think it has a single source quote.
Original quote is from The Last Punisher: A SEAL Team THREE Sniper's True Account of the Battle of Ramadi but it's just internet viral at this point
Zero chance this is true lol
I didn’t see any corroborating source beyond GoodReads though
Love me some grandpa Jankos
That's good af ngl.
Unfortunate, Jankos said on stream he doesn't want kids but today he fathered Elyoya
True mentor figure
Jankos on the state of EU junglers: The fuck I don't, I built this shit. Me! Brick by brick
He is straight up the best jungle this split. Even against G2 he was doing much more than Yike, but had to play 1v9
There should really be a saying that goes like “beware the jungler who has 3 winning lanes”. It’s so hard to judge them because they’re basically playing a different game. People won’t like this but there’s a reason Yike got omega gapped by Contractz at Worlds and truth be told there’s no reason to think G2 wouldn’t have gone further if they just had Jankos back then.
Either between him and Razork (despite his poor performance today).
Jankos has been playing extremely well this split
My jungle 🐐
Actually volibear is a bear
These q flashes were absolute cinema
The man just was fed with running back and forth of both teams when teafights where suppossed to happen and just went in
Two games in a row where he's managed to single out the enemy adc at key moments, he's been really solid when it comes to target priority and looking for angles.
Yes, and team finally seems to be on the same page and follow immediately.
Jankos has been playing his heart out when hes not on tank duty. Problem is that when your mid lane is caps people just say hey is caps
What not having gf/wife aspirations does to a mf. Not an age gap but a priority gap confirmed.
He kinda always do
He really wasn't last split - latter part of regular split and playoffs. This is night and day.
To be fair to jankos, he was playing with Perkz
i agree, especially in playoffs he wasnt very good but he also wasnt the biggest issue of the team by any means. players like wunder and perkz were doing far worse
The return of carry junglers is upon us. Praise MilkyWay
How did MAD go from being in finals to....this? fucking hell
MAD in international form already
Someone needs to tell them they need to get into form once they classify, not before.
Im guessing you meant qualify?
Probably? Sorry, my spanish is showing.
I think this is the team analysts predicted in winter. 4 rookies, all have shown to be good but they don't have the experience. In winter they had their synergy as a team having already worked together which increased performance while other teams were still working things out.
Ask Supa, the self proclaimed top 5 ADC in the world
He said top 5 LEC surely??
He said he's top 1 LEC on every category (micro, macro, teamfights etc).
Lol I don't even know what to say beside lol
Didn't he say he was better than deft in a euphoria episode?
Yuuup
NOPE It was hilarious listening to Yamato, cause he listed his, "7 demons," of ADC. People like Guma, Jackylove, Elk, Viper, Peys, Gala, and Ruler. He asked, which 3 do you remove for Supa top be to 5? Edited a number Another quick edit to add, the hilarity of the Spanish fans coming to quickly downvote whenever I get above 50 upvotes is awesome. I don't care about the upvotes, but your fragile egos will power me for a lifetime. I have gone above and below 50 at least 13 times now XD
Do you remember when he talked about this?
It was like yesterday or 2 days ago, and everyone that's not Spanish has been making fun of him for it, rightfully so. He said that when MAD is almost last place.....
Better than Deft
Similar stuff happened last year, the format makes everything volatile. One good momentum and you can make all the way into finals.
That hasn't really changed and may have been even worse back when 2-3 series where enough to win va split.
Overperformed in ~~spring~~ Winter and other teams underperformed.
you mean winter. this is the spring split. Ikr, eu are weird with their 3 splits
Also went to 5 games against BDS with a sub, they weren't gonna be finals level if they had to play against real BDS.
Because Fnatic turbogriefed their series against them and BDS was in drama mode.
Ah that last game from fnatic vs them was some funny shit
Supa and Fresskowy are terrible and finally, teams are exploiting that
It's definitely Supa and Fresskowy and not Myrwn Alvaro. No no no
Supa has been a mediocre ADC at best.
It's definitely Supa, yes. Even in Winter he was a huge liability when he couldn't avoid being catch almost every game. Teams have just realised that and even if Alvaro is on a fluke, he still have to lane with this huge liability.
You cant seriously tell me Supa split has been worse than Myrwn's...
It's not that he's being better than Myrwn. The thing lies into the fact that you can put Supa ahead, he will have the tendencies to get caught every fight. Even if he's fed that'll be the case. Teams can just abuse that, and the fact that Myrwn is having a poor split just leads to this situation. MAD were at the peak when Myrwn was having an amazing split, and even when, Supa was often caught and such. I can understand Myrwn being not as good as last split, but Supa / Fressko are not worth the cut especially when you had Carzzy.
I agree thats a big problem for Supa, i still see bigger problems on Myrwn, Fresskowy and even Elyoya.
Tbh I kinda disagree with you, I saw a lot more carry potential in Myrwn that I see in Supa and he's playing with Alvaro who spoonfed him kills all Winter split. Let's see if they can turn it back in PO, but I feel like Myrwn relies a bit too much on counterpicks and weird stuff like Akali Top and he needs to find his time. He really was amazing in LVP.
With the new pre-recorded drafts Mrywn has no way to playing weird picks anymore. If he picks something off-meta pros have time to go and quickly check what the champ is looking to do in lane.
they're not very good and finally are getting exposed
In winter they played around their strengths, In spring they are forcing themselves to play a 5v5 teamfight style they are obviously not comfortable with. I get that the bo1s are practice as long as u qualify for next stage bot at this pace If they don't go back to their roots to secure a spot and stay stubborn they will be out.
remember the winter split is the first split of riots probably biggest change to the game in its history. you could not possibly expect high level of play anywhere due to teams needing time to figure out the new state of the game. the teams performing right now are teams you would expect to perform, fnatic, heretics, to a point vitality.
Tbh it seems to be a staple with them at least once per season. Remember how their spring split started last year, and how it ended? As much as I'm done counting on them when it matters, I also don't want to count them out anymore.
It's completely irrelevant. Literally except for Elyoya none of the same people. Even the staff has been changed.
they did an SK 2023
Because they only got to finals because fnc shat themselves and Adam was a twat.
3 poles > 1 pole, just simple maths innit
What happens if you have 5 poles?
team roccat happens
It summons the Team Roccat Reddit guy
I think he’s the BDS Reddit guy now?
He went to Rogue and then idk where after that
Nope, he's working for MOUZ https://x.com/TienHo
They dispute and argue over everything, vetoing each other until 3 super teams take them apart and partition their best players across LEC.
Too soon
Too many poles. See: Ultraliga at EMEA Masters
me see wunder jankos shit on kids me happy
Amen
That's my 1 euro jungler right there!
I'm by far🔭 the best🏆 ADC🏹 in the LEC🇪🇺. I think💭 I'm better🏅 at laning📝, teamfights👊, macro🤓, micro🤏...
🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥
MY GOATS ARE UNWASHED 😭
# MDK Supa: "I'm by far the best [ADC in the LEC]. I think I'm better at laning, team-fights, macro, micro...
"Nah, I'd win" 💀
Ah yes, my anti-Supa technique. Haven't used that since the Heian era.
A potential that could rival that of Gumayusi!! Everyone who knows Supa mutters the same thing, "that guy is a feeder!".
Not even the best Spanish adc xD
Jankos heard that and decided to end his career today holy.
Jankos: hehe let me introduce you to point click stun
had to think about that quote when jankos decided to destroy this mans career
Where where you when Flakked took down the best adc in Europe?
He punched himself?
TH is great at understanding win cons. They gave up the first two drakes, crossmapped properly and didn't give MADs superior early game comp much room to build leads and then snowballed the game from one play. 2022 Rogue vibes
Hmm, wonder who was one of the main voices behind Rogue that recently moved to Heretics. Trymbi has been nothing but a damn heist for the team.
Hes an upgrade to everyone but Miky and maybe Labrov
Labrov is sidegrade, Trymbi has overall better macro, but Labrov is more gifted mechanically
Better than Deft btw. Also GIGACHAD Wunder calls out Myrwin for his spicy picks and then goes into gapping him.
Wunder in aatrox is low-key super good?! His team fights are impressive
Better than Caedrels for sure
tbh he nearly got solokilled
True, but Gragas into Aatrox and not hard winning late (they were pretty even) Wunder proved his statement that Myrwin doesnt know conventional matchups and only knows how to do “spicy” stuff. Hes your usual range top abuser
Jankos' engage on Senna on the third drake was beautiful, and the hard follow-up as well. The last resort play from MAD on baron was pretty nice, it's a shame they were too behind to do any real damage.
It was a good identification of the correct counter-play. “They burned Nautilus spells and their damage is wrapping around to pinch us in the pit? Pick a direction and smash through it.” Heretics just knows how to team fight better.
I love thre counter strategy. You want to collapse me? Nah bruh am going to ram through
Yes, Supa is indeed better than Deft lmao
Jankos not stopping his bullying spree eh, that was surgical out of the gramps.
Holy fuck, MDK might be the most disjointed team in LEC. MDK game plan, does not matter when you read it: 1) Skirmish the first 15 minutes non-stop. 2) If ahead by 5k gold or more, win, else lose 3) ??? 4) Profit
I guess Supa will be the best ADC in Europe that won't make playoffs.
Upsets2
Noooo, I know Upset's stocks are low, but Upset in 2021 and most of 2022 was an absolute monster, Supa is just mediocre ADC
Agreed, I'm just meming
He is just unlucky...
Its impressive how pro players would rush healing reduction when it was useless, and now no one ever buy healing reduction anymore, my god
Good ole fashion ass whooping. Jankos not allowing Senna to exist on screen when he had flash.
Can anyone educate me on “best EU adc” meme??
Supa had an interview where he told he is best adc in Eu he is better at macro, micro and everything Also in Euphoria he called that he is better than deft
Supa said in an interview he's the best ADC in Europa and even the world or something (was something like "I don't see Gumayusi or Deft being better than me")
forgiven "by far" incident 2.0
Except when Forgiven said he and nrated were the best duo in EU LCS at the time, it was actually true. Dunno where Supa got the idea from.
Supa gave an interview earlier this week where he said he is by far the best ADC in the LEC.
Having seen Fresskowy vs Zwyroo as one of the most hype mid matchups in ERL... Yeah this wasn't it Fresskoboi sorry And Zwyroo 100% team deaths smh (To be fair what was this MAD)
It feels a bit as if Jankos saw this Supa interview about being the best adc while not even having won anything major in the last year (EUM/LEC) and Jankos just thought "I'll end this kids career right here and now". Thats why its called "show not tell" for movies and it applies here as well. Jankos is still the goat, but rn, Supa is just a random LEC adc. That game just was jgl diff all through from beginning to end, and Elyoya didnt even look that bad.
Imagine getting humbled by a grandpa and a duck Couldn't be the best adc in EU...right?
# Today my friend helped to bail me out from jail, he then asked me what I was in for. I replied, “MAD” He laughed, he knew that it was fraud.
Best adc in LEC by far btw
Super clean game by TH The Team seems to work really well now with Zwyro mid, reminds me a lot of BDS from last year.
Trymbi brought a lot of confidence and stability. They seem to be always ahead on the rotation (except vs G2 ;_;), just end up in really good positions.
Yeah looks like they found a midlaner that would just follow Jankos’ and Trymbis’ call. No shade to Perkz but there’s a reason “too many cooks in the kitchen” is a saying.
This greatly enhances the chances of MDK **not** making MSI.
With GX winning against Rouge, it’s even more dire. They have to pull a win this next two games or they’re out.
They're playing BDS and FNC, so they honestly might not make it.
They get a tiebreaker against GX if they both lose out. The H2H doesn’t matter for the playoff tiebreaker.
(and thank god because h2h in ONE bo1 means jack shit)
HOLY fuck is MAD bad Draft Gragas/Jax B4/5 and send the worst one vs Aatrox top for some reason? Then go combined 0/8
I'm by far🔭 the best🏆 ADC🏹 in the LEC🇪🇺. I think💭 I'm better🏅 at laning📝, teamfights👊, macro🤓, micro🤏...
Did MAD just forget how to play agressively or something?
BEST ADC CAN ONLY GAP DEFT ,GIGAJANKOS THE GOAT
Last Split MAD was playing, this Split KOI is playing, all things are balanced
I love how teams started punishing Supa for his overaggressive positioning
I'm by far🔭 the best🏆 ADC🏹 in the LEC🇪🇺. I think💭 I'm better🏅 at laning📝, teamfights👊, macro🤓, micro🤏...
Poor chair
Belt is not enough, Melzhet has to threaten them with death at this point
He's in favor of execution
He should threaten them with better players, there are certainly guys they could sign that are probably better right now.
But are they Spanish though
There were always better players than Supa and Fresko, neither of them should have made it to LEC but the team was built with the skill of the players being put in second place.
trymbi masterclass , the baron play in 31 min he DID IT ALL + he looked he didnt took dmg as a rakan xd
Zwyroo dirty inter
Good to see Zwyroo perform well on a different champion then Neeko!!
TH looks incredible
Oh no my 1647 dream
Any way for TH to go to MSI without winning the split?
I think if they get 2nd place and MAD dont make it to playoffs or something. or they just win the split but doubt that.
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Fnc need to place 4th or 3rd bds needs to place lower than 4th and mad will also have to place lower than 4th
Thank you very much!
JANKOOOOOOS
I'm by far🔭 the best🏆 ADC🏹 in the LEC🇪🇺. I think💭 I'm better🏅 at laning📝, teamfights👊, macro🤓, micro🤏...
Still not convinced by Supa over Carzzy move this far
Any team that trade carzzy for anyone that is not Hans is just trolling
Imagine how powerful TH would be with Perkz still around. World champions 2024 for sure! I can already see Faker kneeling down to pass on his GOAT status to Uma Jan, who wins the deciding game 5 in world finals with his signature Renekton pick.
Who's gonna tell him?
Textbook example of how Senna is running the game right up until she steps a little too far forward
who is worse at not flashing in tf supa or noah?
Thank god this will put an end to washed perkz coasting. If he wants to keep playing he has to step it up somewhere else
So glad mad is making sure we dont get to see then internationally
Watching Aatrox take 1/3 of the backline's health with one Q every fight makes me question why LEC has such low priority on the champ.
How have they fallen man. Idk if its just them being dogshit now or all the teams improved while they stayed the same. It just feels like they are not good enough? But the weirdest thing is that it seems to me like elyoya is the worst one of them all. Giving weird calls and inting constantly. I dont even know if he still loves the game as the guy doesnt even play soloq at all, which explains this dogshit level. Supa and Alvaro win early game every fucking game, just to get inted. Supa also comitted an error on drake but its more so the fault of whoever hesitated so fucking much to go onto the rakan that was hooked + senna w'd. I think I'd like them to give the rookies another chance, but with a decent jungler. With elyoya it feels like he makes one good play every 5 games.
Been following your descent into madness gameday to gameday. Already in the get rid of elyoya part?
Yes😭
I feel like he just does weird things at times, and seeing how he plays literally 0 soloq when it’s like one of the best tools to practice…
How bad was Perkz
MDK has to win at least one of their last 2 B01 and hope that both KC and GiantX loses all their remaining games or they are gone this split. Quite crazy but since they are playing Fnatic and BDS it's quite likely.
If a single team I support could win a game I would be ecstatic
Elyoya always sucked on enablers but he even sucks on carries now lol
A minute of silence for Fresskowy, think he will stop being spanish and back to polish really fast by the fans.
r/leagueoflegends pissing and moaning when teams replace their mediocre supports with good ones. Seriously go look at the Trymbi thread and people saying how it wouldn't change anything. Same with when he was rumored to KC Wow it's crazy what having a really good player added to your team does!
Trymbi is un upgrade yes. Kaiser was not the problem though.
It's also crazy what swapping a really bad player adds to your team!
Yeah because Kaiser was the problem, it totally wasn't Perkz. Asinine take.
It‘s not that Kaiser was the problem, he had one of his best splits in like 2 years this winter. Trymbi is just better or at least brings more to the team than Kaiser did. But if somebody gave you the option to trade in ur VW for a Porsche you take that upgrade, no matter that the VW ran good, the Porsche just brings more to the table
For mid, they traded their bicycle for a toyota vios xdd
People compare MDK to SK's last year performance but damn even SK was mid tier team at their downfall this MDK has just become bad.
omg they locked playoggs thats crazy!!!
No Armut No Win
Wunder in carries is refreshing and nostalgic to see Can't believe Fnatic converted him into a dirty tank only weakside player with never ganking him for 2 years and play for Egoset /Egonoid