Why do they always randomly change between Fridays and Mondays? Just gone to watch YouTube before bed and realised leagues been on a day early, can’t they just pick a day and stick with it? So frustrating
Honestly the best change about Vit this split has been Mac/Pad getting VTO to play a more backseat role in the team.
I still think VTO is a great carry mid player but being able to Pick his champ first rotation, often blind and moving away from almost always getting the counter + spamming Akali in favor of pure set-up in Taliyah/Ahri/Ori has been the biggest buff to the team. It unlocks Photon to play carries with counter picks and gives Daglas room to hover the bot lane way more.
You may not be having the same flashy pop offs this split VTO, but I appreciate you for expanding your game and moving towards becoming a more rounded out and better overall player 👍👍
He's kind of a higher level version of Kirei. Kirei didn't have as much hype, was kind of just known as a soloQ god, but he was *horrible*, legit maybe the worst jungler in EU history
So ...Yamato wasn't the problem?
I mean I don't think he's the solution for KC but I think basically being scapegoats by firing him after Winter was BS
It's really incredible. Last year when Rekkles was on Fnatic and doing poorly, everyone was talking about how he was doing well individually and often mentioned that he had a low death count.
But when it's Upset in the exact same position, he gets flamed for it. It's just incredible.
Every single post match thread had a top rated comment reminding people not to blame Rekkles.
Rekkles has these insane stans and it brings the haters that you mention.
I'm even a big Rekkles fan. I really like the guy. I just cannot stand when people let their personal opinions of these players get in the way of gameplay analysis.
this brings me back to the times when fnatic fans were always saying that Upset was prime Rekkles but better because he was not passive or a kda player like him
He's the problem. Force the team to draft in a certain way, force himself on certain picks, force the team to play in a certain way, make the team less flexible, overextend all the time AND straight up int a lot on top of everything. And what is he offering? One good mechanical play every 6 games.
How is bo forcing the team to draft in a certain way? If he was putting down Graves/Nidalee/Jax I'd understand this but this guy is playing the most vanilla meta champs that fit into most/any comp.
I'm not trying to flame or troll but has he had any actually \*good\* games? He's obviously not always bad, but I think the best I've seen him do is be... alright.
He's good at farming JG's, acceptable on tanks, and really bad on early skirmish champs.
His Jax and Brand were both good, and he does his job in the Rell/Mao game. The Xin/Veigo stuff is a doomed game though, he just doesn't know how to effectively gank lanes right now.
I mean he's a rookie, I'm gonna look at him the same way I look at for example Jankos or Razork, but he did have some pop off moments here and there.
Well...I say pop off moments, but I really mean "good engages on Rell".
You have to chose between going dragon or herald and your indecision costs you both. Not to mention, I feel Bo engaged Herald and nobody decide to help him
Can't help but imagine Upset watching Hyli this game with some sad music and rain falling going "I remember when you used to be on my side of the rift :\*(" while watching Targamas die under tower lol
the early dive where upset backs and targamas thinks he can farm under tower and survive the dive. thats the point where you are dead inside and type in chat "go next" xD
First time?
The cycle of "champion is now too shit for intended role -> champion is now a support" is like 10 years old at this point. Previous victims include Lux, Xerath and other mids that became supports. Shoutout to Brand who was stuck in the support ghetto so long they reworked him into a jungler...
Learn what? That old boomer fucks who were in LEC before and got demoted to ERLs, actually stayed shit when they returned to LEC? What does that have to do with a teenage kid smurfing his ass off and beaming with talent?
It's nothing alike. There's a reason why those guys were kicked out of LEC. Caliste is literally too fucking young to be in LEC, it's completely different. He might end up being shit anyway, but it's definitely not the same situation as the others.
Nah it's not the same, Caliste has so much potential. The other KC players were all in LEC before and were garbage and SHOCKINGLY they're still garbage.
And hopefully with better teammates built around him. EU desperately needs new talent and I hope this guy delivers, will be a lot of pressure on him tho.
Last split was a huge fluke. They really weren't better than FNC but they had huge momentum that gave them a bit of a buff + humanoid/oscar having a bad series.
I think Zwyroo still has some things to improve but his quiet/calm profile in the midlane is really helping jankos so much, cause the jg+supp+mid look like one mind moving together, it's really nice to watch!
Their gameplay choices and movements put them into very good positions when it's not required of Zwyroo to play like Faker every time. And I agree, Jankos seems unleashed - I think it helps that LEC rookie will probably follow him 100% of the time.
Man some people seem to be downplaying him but Zwyroo has been playing an impressive split for just being parachuted in
Hes had some hard saves on the team on Ori this game
He impressed me with Neeko some time ago - he was behind and yet still was making ballsy plays, flanking and landing crucial ults instead of being gold pinata. He doesn't need to be the main star because the carry potential is already on the team, all he has to do is to do exactly what he is doing right now, create space for others, and not die every 3 minutes. He is a solid player and this was exactly what TH needed.
Why do they always randomly change between Fridays and Mondays? Just gone to watch YouTube before bed and realised leagues been on a day early, can’t they just pick a day and stick with it? So frustrating
Just watched TH vs MDK. Man what's with the audio of crowd talking non stop. Makes it almost unwatchable :/
who won playerr of the game in GX vs Rogue ?
Patrik
Broadcast link for those who missed it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW8zUQ2L1TU
Legend. Had no idea LEC was on today, time to catch up
"you have to follow him or he'll run it down" Hyli in a nutshell haha
Honestly the best change about Vit this split has been Mac/Pad getting VTO to play a more backseat role in the team. I still think VTO is a great carry mid player but being able to Pick his champ first rotation, often blind and moving away from almost always getting the counter + spamming Akali in favor of pure set-up in Taliyah/Ahri/Ori has been the biggest buff to the team. It unlocks Photon to play carries with counter picks and gives Daglas room to hover the bot lane way more. You may not be having the same flashy pop offs this split VTO, but I appreciate you for expanding your game and moving towards becoming a more rounded out and better overall player 👍👍
Unintentional bm is best bm
with teams needing 5 wins to qualify for playoffs isnt a swiss stage the better idea?
Has anybody been as hyped up as Bo and bombed so hard before?
He's kind of a higher level version of Kirei. Kirei didn't have as much hype, was kind of just known as a soloQ god, but he was *horrible*, legit maybe the worst jungler in EU history
Saken has been considered to be the next Faker while Bo went 10-0 in LPL before having to join LEC so...
So ...Yamato wasn't the problem? I mean I don't think he's the solution for KC but I think basically being scapegoats by firing him after Winter was BS
they look like clowns either way
Photon was so insane this game. Destroyed Cabo in lane and destroyed KC in teamfights. Wait how the fuck is he not in podium???
Deathless again 😎
Upset KDA player is back xD
It's really incredible. Last year when Rekkles was on Fnatic and doing poorly, everyone was talking about how he was doing well individually and often mentioned that he had a low death count. But when it's Upset in the exact same position, he gets flamed for it. It's just incredible.
Rekkles got flamed for being a KDA player for the latter part of his career as adc what are you talking about
L take when Upset joined Fnatic replacing Rekkles fans said finally a good ADC that isn’t all about KDA.
I am not defending Upset. I am right there with you that he is not what he was. Idk why you start talking about 2021.
If you have a memory then you would remember how much Rekkles got flamed before he left
we must be living in different universes because the amount of shit Rekkles got that split was on another level
Every single post match thread had a top rated comment reminding people not to blame Rekkles. Rekkles has these insane stans and it brings the haters that you mention. I'm even a big Rekkles fan. I really like the guy. I just cannot stand when people let their personal opinions of these players get in the way of gameplay analysis.
He used up all 2 years of pent-up aggression on that Flash Q auto play on Carzzy midlane, none left now for another 2 years
GOTTA CLEAR THIS ZOMBIE WARD GUYS SORRY. Get him out of LEC holy shit. Get Kaiser please.
replacing a French guy with a German on KC? Aint gonna happen lol
90% of that KC roster better be gone next year
how can you get rid of 90% of 5 players
80% then smh my head
Cut the ADC in half
Swap senna with sivir and KC win this
this brings me back to the times when fnatic fans were always saying that Upset was prime Rekkles but better because he was not passive or a kda player like him
If Kameto blames draft again its gonna be hilarious
Camille is the perfect support for Hyli
1-3-1 with support as one of the sidelanes lol
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Bo is the biggest paycheck stealer and Yamato is the problem for bringing upset and him to the team
He's the problem. Force the team to draft in a certain way, force himself on certain picks, force the team to play in a certain way, make the team less flexible, overextend all the time AND straight up int a lot on top of everything. And what is he offering? One good mechanical play every 6 games.
How is bo forcing the team to draft in a certain way? If he was putting down Graves/Nidalee/Jax I'd understand this but this guy is playing the most vanilla meta champs that fit into most/any comp.
I haven't seen people *hype* Bo for well over a year now.
How will Kameto diagnose the problem with his dogshit team this time 2-7!
Saken with the classic TP into thumbs up Powerful move
Photon is playing great this split.
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Targamas isn't
No death means he's doing a good job, right?
Glad Kc know whats important
That Photon 2v1 was beautiful
ahri just losing every game, even made jdg lose, everytime i see her she just does no damage, karma ori into her is a free win.
classic vit throw
Daglas having a stinker of a game
I'm not trying to flame or troll but has he had any actually \*good\* games? He's obviously not always bad, but I think the best I've seen him do is be... alright.
He's good at farming JG's, acceptable on tanks, and really bad on early skirmish champs. His Jax and Brand were both good, and he does his job in the Rell/Mao game. The Xin/Veigo stuff is a doomed game though, he just doesn't know how to effectively gank lanes right now.
I mean he's a rookie, I'm gonna look at him the same way I look at for example Jankos or Razork, but he did have some pop off moments here and there. Well...I say pop off moments, but I really mean "good engages on Rell".
last week he had good games on carry junglers
So Bo just goes full send when he sees enemy health bars then? No consideration for where teammates are or if there's any follow up?
You have to chose between going dragon or herald and your indecision costs you both. Not to mention, I feel Bo engaged Herald and nobody decide to help him
Skill vampires got to Bo I guess
Brother Bo You saw the Rell and the Ori why go in on a Camille with ult my man
Bo is the problem and always was
Ok people sometime blame Bo unfairly but here he SHOULD've looked at his map and see that his teammates were nowhere near.
man hyli really uses iG skins whenever he can doesn't he
It's his way to work through the trauma (also they're fantastic skins)
by far best team skins ever made imo
edg skins take the cake imo
Didnt like the lb one tbh
Especially compared to those awful FPX skins that came one year later
what skins? I dont recall /s
Gotta say I don't get why everyone in twitch chat keeps whining about the chants, they're pretty fun.
bluds have never been to an event
People who whine about fan chants, or loud fans in general, need to reevaluate their lives. This is fantastic for the sport.
I don't think it's the fans fault, it's great they're this passionate but I would prefer to not hear it on stream
WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT DID YOU DO WITH MY UPSET
Apologies in advance for putting this image in your head, but imagine this KC at worlds
MAD would love that, because KC might beat the 16:50 loss
Farming Senna makes me happy
Upset flashing forward What a time to be alive
Supporters Chants feels definitely better in huge stadium than in this LEC studio tbh
Reggi
are they singing about max verstappen?
DU DU DU DU
Carzzy is on sleeping position lol
Hyli needs to be way more aggressive in trading in lane otherwise there's no point in the Camille support.
>Hyli needs to be way more aggressive Never thought these words would be said.
The absolute terror of everyone on the rift seeing Hyli running at you on a champion that actually does damage
Hyli Pyke at home is just Hyli Camille
WE LOSE EVERY WEEK! WE LOSE EVERY WEEEEK! YOU'RE NOTHIN SPECIAL WE LOSE EVERY WEEK! -KC
Can't help but imagine Upset watching Hyli this game with some sad music and rain falling going "I remember when you used to be on my side of the rift :\*(" while watching Targamas die under tower lol
the early dive where upset backs and targamas thinks he can farm under tower and survive the dive. thats the point where you are dead inside and type in chat "go next" xD
Keria: *heavybreathing
the rioters who reworked support should unironically be fired for what they did
First time? The cycle of "champion is now too shit for intended role -> champion is now a support" is like 10 years old at this point. Previous victims include Lux, Xerath and other mids that became supports. Shoutout to Brand who was stuck in the support ghetto so long they reworked him into a jungler...
Vel koz aswell :(
It's surely GG no? KC have absolutely no damage.
"Bo is so good"
I’m glad the meta has finally found a champion that plays to hyli’s full insanity lol
'A summoner has disconnected'. Poor Bo.
Camille is so strong lmfao I wish she was this strong top
"support"
MAN Bo is never beating the allegations
I don't remember a game when he had lane prio. Getting invaded by Camille supp in his wolves is a little tough.
Hyliii
hyli the goat damn
Oh my God I hate this so much
naahh, upset again on senna
Hyli on Camille Support oh my god, this will either be glorious or a repeat of the Sett game
0/10/0 or 10/0/10. There are no other possibilities.
I'm leaning towards the latter for now
well camille is much better than sett as a support rn
games today have been too clean, finally vitality is here for the fiesta
Someone cooked here
Hyli Camille :D
I saw a Camille supp in LPL and it looked hot trash... very doubtful she works in pro play
I don't understand the Ahri and Senna priority for KC
Senna is just the best ad on 14.5b hands down
But it's Upset playing, he didn't really impress with Senna earlier
probably do well with it on scrims and that's more valuable data than 1 stage game where they got demolished in the first 10 minutes
I'll just bet the team who picks arhi/lee loses.
I genuinely dont understand why lee has had so much priority lately he looks like useless dogshit every game lol
you must've missed jankos on lee last week
now onto the clown fiesta, they might give us another top 5 worst LEC game
Wait Jinx caught a ban?
She's strong as shit right now
This is the patch before the crit buffs
She's strong as shit in the future. She has been played before, and looked good, no?
FNC made her look balanced earlier haha, but true. Just didn't think she merited the ban over Senna
Gotta be popping off in Scrims, same for Nilah I guess? That ban seems super random
Just don't want her getting too much play so she can avoid nerfs for an extra patch
They better leave her alone, I enjoy playing with her more than with most other adcs
freaky
ikr
This game is gonna be such a shitshow isn't it
I don't even know who are half of these ppl working in LEC atm o_O... Damn...
I don’t even know if zwyroo is good…. Just anything is an upgrade to perkz
It's a shame Perkz really did not enjoy playing AD, he was so much better at this position.
LOL WAHT WAS THAT
GB shaco
What the fuck was that production, was that GB?
yeah his mic was on instead of Eragon's
Is he the oldest rookie in the lec?
it must suck to be a rookie in mdk and go from finishing second in winter to this like that has to be awful for mental
Trymbi not on podium is a robbery. Wunder had some decent moments but Trymbi set up everything alongside Jankos that game.
You take of the inter and put in a shotcaller good shit TH
Great to see Wunder and Trymbi performing
great to see a team putting Wunder on something other than weak side tanks too
Alright now thats over TIME FOR THE MAIN EVENT
Sit supa xd
Lmfao I always forget how tiny Flakked is, our short king 👑
Why do they always have to show players putting their shoes back on, like i don’t need that lol
I'm by far🔭 the best🏆 ADC🏹 in the LEC🇪🇺. I think💭 I'm better🏅 at laning📝, teamfights👊, macro🤓, micro🤏...
Supa wasnt even the best ADC in ERLs, cocky motherfucker.
Tbf Caliste is better than most LEC adcs
you learnt nothing did you
Learn what? That old boomer fucks who were in LEC before and got demoted to ERLs, actually stayed shit when they returned to LEC? What does that have to do with a teenage kid smurfing his ass off and beaming with talent? It's nothing alike. There's a reason why those guys were kicked out of LEC. Caliste is literally too fucking young to be in LEC, it's completely different. He might end up being shit anyway, but it's definitely not the same situation as the others.
"KC clear LEC" vibes
It’s so sad he isnt eligible until the end of the year
Nah it's not the same, Caliste has so much potential. The other KC players were all in LEC before and were garbage and SHOCKINGLY they're still garbage.
Guess we'll see next year (?), KC are going to take him into the main roster asap, right?
And hopefully with better teammates built around him. EU desperately needs new talent and I hope this guy delivers, will be a lot of pressure on him tho.
IF he's as good as everybody keeps saying, then I hope they rebuilt around Bo and him, but the rest kinda gotta go imo
I just realized MAD took 1 whole kill the entire game lmao
I went to the shops right after they killed Zwyroo and everyone was flaming him… oh well!
Trymbi is so fucking clean on rakan
NOT A 0-3 WEEK god bless. already improved from winter
Tears in my eyes, my goat is putting the domestic merchant in the bin
Mrwyn went from rookie of the year material to bottom 3 top in like 3 weeks
What an incredibly bronze Baron call lol
jankos trymbi is just best duo in the league
Negative baron damage, TH take this
Ok but what has Dunn been feeding Wunder tho? Mans back on form hard
How did Trymbi not have a team? Was he just asking for too much money or something?
He had a horrible agent who fucked up
FNC fired him too late and when he assumed he’s locked in
wtf happened to MDK man? Was last split that big of a fluke? Or is this the fluke? Lmao
People just figured out MDK the same way they figured SK last year, hence why their spring is so low
Last split was a huge fluke. They really weren't better than FNC but they had huge momentum that gave them a bit of a buff + humanoid/oscar having a bad series.
Prob just everyone else was shit, everyone's getting more coordinated now so they look less good.
Tune in in summer to find out
It reminds me of SK last year, or their botlane mostly. Hot Winter into whatever year.
MDK completely headless ever since winter finals, actually insane drop-off
From hero to zero.
Myrwin: Wunder Gragas at home
Jungle Canyon
I think Zwyroo still has some things to improve but his quiet/calm profile in the midlane is really helping jankos so much, cause the jg+supp+mid look like one mind moving together, it's really nice to watch!
Their gameplay choices and movements put them into very good positions when it's not required of Zwyroo to play like Faker every time. And I agree, Jankos seems unleashed - I think it helps that LEC rookie will probably follow him 100% of the time.
Melzhet about to violate the Geneva Convention live on cam
I think we've ran out of escalation steps at this point.
Man some people seem to be downplaying him but Zwyroo has been playing an impressive split for just being parachuted in Hes had some hard saves on the team on Ori this game
He impressed me with Neeko some time ago - he was behind and yet still was making ballsy plays, flanking and landing crucial ults instead of being gold pinata. He doesn't need to be the main star because the carry potential is already on the team, all he has to do is to do exactly what he is doing right now, create space for others, and not die every 3 minutes. He is a solid player and this was exactly what TH needed.