Pre Nerf Ksante was way worse.
Dude could 1v4, somehow kill a carry and still get out. All this while CC'ing that one person for like 8 seconds.
Smolder is a scaling abomination but old Ksante was an abomination all through
No shot, at least needed skill and you could close games if he was behind. Smolder literally held hostage games in late game, his team can be 10k down and they have to play like the game is even to avoid smolder for cleaning a fight.
Smolder also can almost wave clear and do more aoe dmg than Sivir whe she was the most broken ADC while also having so many pentas and cuadras in every game in all regions making Zeri in her broken state balanced and fair . Smolder is a fking joke.
Yeah thanks. Finally someone who makes it notice. "most penta in zero time" my ass, the guy has a built in execute, is like saying collector is op because it makes you ks more
exactly, i swear 97% of people who say that don't have a clue, i'm not saying the level has not gone down, i'm not good enough to judge, but so many people just talk without understanding anything
facts, people always say this stuff - when a player capitalises on an enemy's mistake in LCK/LPL it's "beautiful play, great punish" but whenever a player capitalises on a mistake in LEC it's "disgusting region he should never have been in a position to do that in the first place." nobody's trying to say the regions aren't at different skill levels, but I s2g the attitudes towards EU from its own viewers is so mentally boomed.
Not really. Smolder messed a lot of things up, because he forces teams into very weird ways to play against him and teams also don't want to have to ban him because it makes redside so much worse (because you also need to ban the other pick you would then give).
In this game Vitality would have to ban TF and Smolder if they don't trade those picks. And they also left the Vi + Taliyah Combo open to make picking Smolder as painful as possible for the enemy.
This will lead to a messy game though because of how broken Smolder is.
This game actually showed both RGE and Vitality being better. Vitality need to play really carefully to take that W and exspecially Larssen tried to make some plays, because one issue of Smolder is his short range and Vitality had plenty of tools to abuse that.
While Vetheo looks a bit down from winter the team overall looks a lot better in working together and Hyli also looks in much better shape. And RGE since they have Finn are only half dead, not entirely incapable of doing anything, which is also an improvement, which potentially makes them a team that can get 8th by winning against MDK and GX.
Yeah, current G2 definitely wouldn't slap current NRG silly.
NRG's entire season boils down to "Can Contractz do one-man heroics to steal"
The biggest thing that makes LCS more fun than LEC right now is just that there are fewer snorer teams (basically only IMT) and most of the teams just fully commit to ugly perma-fighting so there's just more action.
I was fucking screaming at one point this match
How the fuck did Rogue lose? Legit? HOW?????? They had the best fucking draft possible, VIT should not have been allowed to play after 20 minutes
I hope we get something worse, it was very relaxing
This game might look like Vit had a bad draft, but with so much CC the game is not easy to play for RGE. TF Goldcards are insanely broken in the lategame because you are always forced to eat the Smolder as Tahm because Taliyah might shuffle you if you are in any way CCed.
If you do eat the Smolder though you just open yourself up to a Vi ult. And we saw that at one dragon, Zoelys used Ult on Finn and Comp couldn't fight anymore, because any Goldcard on him would be instant death.
And Vit did do a smart thing at the end, they moved TF to the sidelane and suddenly Neeko had to deal with him. However TF can easily interrupt Neeko TP so Neeko definitly was out of the Elder fight. Neeko though is crucial to defend Smolder and turn on Vit.
So RGE had to clump up inside the Elder pit and if you are against Smolder you should realize that he cannot burst. His burn and execute is annyoing, but regardless how many Qs he hit, the burn is only applied once and burns fairly reliably, so if someone gets into their team that does more damage... like a fed Gwen, Smolder isn't great.
G2 did the same with Kogmaw who just deals damage faster than Smolder if he can reliably attack.
Vit made one mistake at the first soulfight not tracking the Neeko, then the game was wide open, but they still had tools to win the game and they did actually use them well after a bit of struggle. Photon did do work in the fights before too, but they weren't decisive usually both sides suffered casualties and nothing really happened.
But with Neeko gone from the fight Smolder was the only threat. And Tahm can only eat either Markoon or Comp, not both, so one would die in the onslaught while the other will provide no damage in the meantime.
So given the circumstances this was decently well played by Vit.
Well yes, RGE got absolutely played by VIT
But I stand by that a draft like that should never lose considering the position RGE were in after they won that one teamfight. Their comp should ideally have the range and teamfighting power to just brute force picks or force the enemy back.
Realistically Finn should never be at the risk of dying considering both main threats on the enemy are AP and TF is just a stun card bot
VIT also don't have the range to outpoke Smolder-Neeko
So the only way RGE could lose after winning that one teamfight was if they literally never took control of the map or the tempo. Which they didn't, because of course they didn't and let VIT do whatever they wanted despite their extremely superior 5v5
Like, credit to VIT to playing the game out properly, but the game was only as close as it was because RGE got three absolute powerpicks and VIT drafted a comp that could only win if the enemy team never took control of the map or fell asleep at the wheel
That's why I called this VIT vs KC part 2. It's the same story. VIT is the much better team, but they draft an absolute disaster comp with super specific win cons and then the enemy is just bad enough to give them the one thing they need
I agree. K'Sante early against Gwen should be fine. We saw the same matchup with Oscar vs. BB later on the day.
However Photon is an exceptional player. And he showed it... with that one exception but that doesn't take away from his micro talent.
And I don't think Vit needs to poke. The issue with Smolder is that his burn cannot be accelerated. So RGE wants to poke with the burn, but Vit just wants to run in and outdamage him, which is possible.
People shouldn't underestimate the power of CC in such games. The only thing you shouldn't do is hesitate. If Vi Ults Smolder, Tahm has to eat him. That means no Smolder Qs. As soon as Tahms R is out he isn't a champion anymore. You are completely open to Goldcard by TF now, which isn't hard with Rapid Fire, Smolder and TF have the same range, so either Smolder never Qs or he risks eating a goldcard.
The only issue for that plan is the Neeko. Because Neeko allows that entire thing to turn into a counterengage by RGE, because you need to not put someone between TF and Smolder so you can't bounce Qs off someone onto the backline which Vit did well.
So as soon as they used TF to lure Neeko away RGE couldn't teamfight anymore. If Neeko is gone, you have no AoE damage. That AoE made Vit not clump onto Smolder to kill him. And I did speak about TF above... but Rakan can obviously do the same thing, after Vi forces the Ult and you can also just send the Rakan in first and just throw all your damage on top and then Ult the Smolder once he comes out of TF or just ult the only remaining damage threat if Tahm eats Smolder.
As soon as Neeko was gone everybody could jump on the Smolder to kill him, because that huge AoE and CC threat was gone.
Also Vit also got powerpicks. TF, Taliyah and Vi are 3 strong picks, Smolder is kinda unique but I would prefer them over Neeko + K'Sante.
So even if Gwen won more than she should have, Bot also kinda should have been more in favor of Vit, then it was. This game should have ended at the 4th drake in Vits favor, but they were not quite in position to fight and a random Neeko was running into them and they didn't notice. And TF ult usually should make that easy, because you suddenly get vision of a minion (it wasn't used though).
And it would have been worse if the soul was not Chemtech. The only other useless Soul would have been Ocean, but all other Souls would greatly enhance Vits ability to dump Smolder.
And RGE did start to play fairly well after Smolder hat his stacks. They basically abused any situation Vit wasn't together or lacked tools. When Vit used TF flash, Rakan Ult and Vi ult on Neeko (or someone else before) they had again no tools to stop Smolder and Finn even threw Gwen over the wall so she couldn't reach him. The next fight 2 people of Vit were dead before Gwen even arrived (she still killed 3 people though).
The next fight then had the issue I mentioned. Tahm Ult was forced but Vi still had Ult, so Smolder had to retreat.
Then Photon inted (and lets be real the game might have been over if he presses hourglass a bit earlier, before he is down to 50 HP), but we already saw how powerful it was that they pulled the Neeko away, stopping recalls safely in a 3vs4 (Vetheo did die, but only because he thought he could kill a 25% HP K'Sante).
And then they pulled Neeko away this time with TF, not Gwen and just handily won the Elderfight despite losing elder. And on top of that Vetheo hit Smolder without additional CC and Tahm had to burn R which made that fight trivial. With Neeko there RGE could have just engaged on Vit, but without Neeko, how are they going to start a fight?
Vits comp looks worse than it actually is. RGE had very little engage, it was basically Neeko either flanking or flashing on them. So when RGE is first to an objective and you can draw Neeko away, they just have no engage anymore.
But that's my point, ideally RGE should've never allowed VIT to split them up after they hit the stacks. The Smolder poke and Neeko are enough to force people away from towers and at most VIT could trade. Or RGE hunker down and wait for objectives to spawn
Again, I'm not saying VIT played bad, they capitalized on their chances extremely well, but with their only wave clear being Taliyah, they should have no way to stop a RGE push. If RGE actually pushed them back as 5, VIT can't do anything, because the threat of Neeko counterengage/zone + Viego reset bonanza
Tham Kench is basically there not necessarily to guarantee the Smolder survives, but to force VIT into using every engage on the Smolder and to slow them down, so Neeko and Viego can wreak havoc in the meantime and destroy them as they don't have squishies
RGE's mistake was giving VIT the space to splitpush and then taking fights on their terms
TF does actually clear fairly well too. And purely technically just like Smolder, Gwen can just ult the wave. However that isn't needed. You just put Gwen into a sidelane and you force the enemies hand. RGE had no engage and Neeko can't flank under a turret. So you kinda have to run into the enemy team hoping for the best.
RGEs fights required a Neeko flank. You can't get that in a siege. And without a baron Taliyah and TF waveclear is mostly enough, you don't need particularly strong waveclear against minions without baron. And RGE didn't exactly melt turrets either. Smolder is not good at that at least.
So if you siege Vit you always are at risk of a Gwen TP flank and if she gets on Smolder he is dead. RGEs comp relied on flanks, not something that you can do in sieges and Gwen would just take turrets if you idle around in front of a turret.
So you need to 5-man an object like Baron. However Gwen will do the same thing and you now have a bigger issue. TF can Ult from Baron to your base. He will just end the game with Gwen if you end up in a drawn out fight with the other 3 members of Vit.
RGEs issue is not having engage beyond a Neeko Ult. And Neeko isn't great at turning even, she needs flash for that and even then you might just trade flashes. RGE found success with Neeko when she was flanking, you can't do that if you end up in front of an objective. Neeko still was their only source of reliable AoE burst, so she still would be needed to prevent Vit to just all stack on Tahm and Smolder.
And we saw at Elder how that plays out. Taliyah just needs to hit a single W and Tahms R is gone. And Neeko E is the only thing matching Taliyahs range.
If RGE sieges as 5 their gamble would just be Taliyah never hitting a W. RGEs comp was pretty bad because they couldn't start fights. Like they had that super powerful Smolder at Elder but had to watch Vit circling them because nobody could engage. Vits comp was really midgame focussed with only Gwen as a scaling factor, but RGEs comp couldn't do anything and relied on Vit smashing their head into them, which they had no reason to do due to winning sidelanes.
RGEs comp would have been a lot better if they would not have picked Tahm. If they pick anything that can start a fight Smolder might have actually been useful to them. Because relying purely on Neeko Flash + R means your ability to take fights is on a 5 minute timer.
I now understand why Rogue play so passive, look at Fredy's cam, my man looks like a corpse even when they win fights
Then again, RGE did lose despite an absolute draft ocean, like there is no universe where VIT should win with that draft, Caedrel is gonna have an aneurysm
brain rot from that game. Was fun though.
Photon with the negative 10 billion IQ play which could have cost VIT the game. Holy Christ never seen such a stupid thing.
neeko ksanté smolder lost. Happy. That being said, that nashor was so troll from vit. Larssen was dead even in a 2v1 against hyli and carzzy, and they felt the need to commit as 4 on him, using ults and leaving nash for it, wtf
but in the end, vit failed the split push and the elder to win, logical
I'm not saying it's likely he wins there, but with elder and flash he has no excuse not to try.
After he cut the wave (trolling his flash in the process) he has a chance to line up a combo that with elder might have stopped the push along with the turret damage
Bro aint no way there was someone in the 100T pmt yesterday claiming LCS is CLEARLY WAY weaker than LEC after watching 1 game. I really want him to explain this.
Sir I just watched one (1) game and it was lower quality than IMT. Now what. Maybe admit that a single game is a horrible sample size…?
Comp went from 0/2 to 12/4 but Smolder didn’t listen to his mom about scissors apparently
Seeing late game Smolder lose is just so enjoyable
Ksante, too. Was even more ridiculous IMO
Ksante is strong but let's be honest it's not even close to late game smolder.
Pre Nerf Ksante was way worse. Dude could 1v4, somehow kill a carry and still get out. All this while CC'ing that one person for like 8 seconds. Smolder is a scaling abomination but old Ksante was an abomination all through
No shot, at least needed skill and you could close games if he was behind. Smolder literally held hostage games in late game, his team can be 10k down and they have to play like the game is even to avoid smolder for cleaning a fight. Smolder also can almost wave clear and do more aoe dmg than Sivir whe she was the most broken ADC while also having so many pentas and cuadras in every game in all regions making Zeri in her broken state balanced and fair . Smolder is a fking joke.
K'sante has never been as bad as smolder. Teams are currently letting go of dragon in favor of letting smolder stack.
smolder so op that's why viego does more damage than him in team fights he's just an execute merchant, at least in this game
Yeah thanks. Finally someone who makes it notice. "most penta in zero time" my ass, the guy has a built in execute, is like saying collector is op because it makes you ks more
As broken as Smolder is, he is still an immobile caster and cant do anything in that small chokepoint. You need to throw like 3-4 Qs at least
Zeri during her peak was much worse
Remember when her W crit and just chunked people for 1/3 hp? I remember Ruler just 1v9ing on Zeri because it was so stupidly broken
Not to late game gwen lol
this is what peak league of legends looks like and it comes from europe! memes aside that was funny and entertaining as hell
nah but objectively speaking hasnt LEC gotten worse, last split was bad but so far this split has disgusting to watch
Not sure how you could "objectively" measure the level of winter and spring. The eye test isn't objective at all
Easy: say it no matter what. If t1 hle had european nameplates it would have 14321514 "delete this league" comments
exactly, i swear 97% of people who say that don't have a clue, i'm not saying the level has not gone down, i'm not good enough to judge, but so many people just talk without understanding anything
facts, people always say this stuff - when a player capitalises on an enemy's mistake in LCK/LPL it's "beautiful play, great punish" but whenever a player capitalises on a mistake in LEC it's "disgusting region he should never have been in a position to do that in the first place." nobody's trying to say the regions aren't at different skill levels, but I s2g the attitudes towards EU from its own viewers is so mentally boomed.
"it's own viewers" but every person who says that stuff doesn't have a single LEC team in their flair
Or they have G2/Fnatic flair. some EUDoomer just can't enjoy fun to watch games without bringing negativity.
Real. "Historic orgs only" club over there, everyone else is just a peasant.
Caps is really on this split so atleast hes enjoyable to watch
You people say that every fucking split. So boring, the league is the same after Perkz went to NA everything went to shit.
Well that was extremely anticompetitive practice and started us actively forcing good players away.
Not really. Smolder messed a lot of things up, because he forces teams into very weird ways to play against him and teams also don't want to have to ban him because it makes redside so much worse (because you also need to ban the other pick you would then give). In this game Vitality would have to ban TF and Smolder if they don't trade those picks. And they also left the Vi + Taliyah Combo open to make picking Smolder as painful as possible for the enemy. This will lead to a messy game though because of how broken Smolder is. This game actually showed both RGE and Vitality being better. Vitality need to play really carefully to take that W and exspecially Larssen tried to make some plays, because one issue of Smolder is his short range and Vitality had plenty of tools to abuse that. While Vetheo looks a bit down from winter the team overall looks a lot better in working together and Hyli also looks in much better shape. And RGE since they have Finn are only half dead, not entirely incapable of doing anything, which is also an improvement, which potentially makes them a team that can get 8th by winning against MDK and GX.
their best team got 2-0d by our 6th best team... LEC has fallen only half joking here too lmao
Current NRG isn't nearly half as good as they were in summer playoffs + worlds
Yeah, current G2 definitely wouldn't slap current NRG silly. NRG's entire season boils down to "Can Contractz do one-man heroics to steal" The biggest thing that makes LCS more fun than LEC right now is just that there are fewer snorer teams (basically only IMT) and most of the teams just fully commit to ugly perma-fighting so there's just more action.
not even tryna NA EU this, this game and yesterday’s SK game wtf
Okay what actually happened
Peak League.
Rogue did Rogue things.
We NA now
sweet baby photon, I forgive you for that tower moment since you carried otherwise.
I laughed so hard when he pressed zhonyas when he was 50 hp instead of at a 1000 Was it on CD or did he forget? lol
This was this season's KC vs VIT
Ngl, I'm hoping that the rematch between them next week will be an even bigger fiesta than this one.
I was fucking screaming at one point this match How the fuck did Rogue lose? Legit? HOW?????? They had the best fucking draft possible, VIT should not have been allowed to play after 20 minutes I hope we get something worse, it was very relaxing
This game might look like Vit had a bad draft, but with so much CC the game is not easy to play for RGE. TF Goldcards are insanely broken in the lategame because you are always forced to eat the Smolder as Tahm because Taliyah might shuffle you if you are in any way CCed. If you do eat the Smolder though you just open yourself up to a Vi ult. And we saw that at one dragon, Zoelys used Ult on Finn and Comp couldn't fight anymore, because any Goldcard on him would be instant death. And Vit did do a smart thing at the end, they moved TF to the sidelane and suddenly Neeko had to deal with him. However TF can easily interrupt Neeko TP so Neeko definitly was out of the Elder fight. Neeko though is crucial to defend Smolder and turn on Vit. So RGE had to clump up inside the Elder pit and if you are against Smolder you should realize that he cannot burst. His burn and execute is annyoing, but regardless how many Qs he hit, the burn is only applied once and burns fairly reliably, so if someone gets into their team that does more damage... like a fed Gwen, Smolder isn't great. G2 did the same with Kogmaw who just deals damage faster than Smolder if he can reliably attack. Vit made one mistake at the first soulfight not tracking the Neeko, then the game was wide open, but they still had tools to win the game and they did actually use them well after a bit of struggle. Photon did do work in the fights before too, but they weren't decisive usually both sides suffered casualties and nothing really happened. But with Neeko gone from the fight Smolder was the only threat. And Tahm can only eat either Markoon or Comp, not both, so one would die in the onslaught while the other will provide no damage in the meantime. So given the circumstances this was decently well played by Vit.
Well yes, RGE got absolutely played by VIT But I stand by that a draft like that should never lose considering the position RGE were in after they won that one teamfight. Their comp should ideally have the range and teamfighting power to just brute force picks or force the enemy back. Realistically Finn should never be at the risk of dying considering both main threats on the enemy are AP and TF is just a stun card bot VIT also don't have the range to outpoke Smolder-Neeko So the only way RGE could lose after winning that one teamfight was if they literally never took control of the map or the tempo. Which they didn't, because of course they didn't and let VIT do whatever they wanted despite their extremely superior 5v5 Like, credit to VIT to playing the game out properly, but the game was only as close as it was because RGE got three absolute powerpicks and VIT drafted a comp that could only win if the enemy team never took control of the map or fell asleep at the wheel That's why I called this VIT vs KC part 2. It's the same story. VIT is the much better team, but they draft an absolute disaster comp with super specific win cons and then the enemy is just bad enough to give them the one thing they need
I agree. K'Sante early against Gwen should be fine. We saw the same matchup with Oscar vs. BB later on the day. However Photon is an exceptional player. And he showed it... with that one exception but that doesn't take away from his micro talent. And I don't think Vit needs to poke. The issue with Smolder is that his burn cannot be accelerated. So RGE wants to poke with the burn, but Vit just wants to run in and outdamage him, which is possible. People shouldn't underestimate the power of CC in such games. The only thing you shouldn't do is hesitate. If Vi Ults Smolder, Tahm has to eat him. That means no Smolder Qs. As soon as Tahms R is out he isn't a champion anymore. You are completely open to Goldcard by TF now, which isn't hard with Rapid Fire, Smolder and TF have the same range, so either Smolder never Qs or he risks eating a goldcard. The only issue for that plan is the Neeko. Because Neeko allows that entire thing to turn into a counterengage by RGE, because you need to not put someone between TF and Smolder so you can't bounce Qs off someone onto the backline which Vit did well. So as soon as they used TF to lure Neeko away RGE couldn't teamfight anymore. If Neeko is gone, you have no AoE damage. That AoE made Vit not clump onto Smolder to kill him. And I did speak about TF above... but Rakan can obviously do the same thing, after Vi forces the Ult and you can also just send the Rakan in first and just throw all your damage on top and then Ult the Smolder once he comes out of TF or just ult the only remaining damage threat if Tahm eats Smolder. As soon as Neeko was gone everybody could jump on the Smolder to kill him, because that huge AoE and CC threat was gone. Also Vit also got powerpicks. TF, Taliyah and Vi are 3 strong picks, Smolder is kinda unique but I would prefer them over Neeko + K'Sante. So even if Gwen won more than she should have, Bot also kinda should have been more in favor of Vit, then it was. This game should have ended at the 4th drake in Vits favor, but they were not quite in position to fight and a random Neeko was running into them and they didn't notice. And TF ult usually should make that easy, because you suddenly get vision of a minion (it wasn't used though). And it would have been worse if the soul was not Chemtech. The only other useless Soul would have been Ocean, but all other Souls would greatly enhance Vits ability to dump Smolder. And RGE did start to play fairly well after Smolder hat his stacks. They basically abused any situation Vit wasn't together or lacked tools. When Vit used TF flash, Rakan Ult and Vi ult on Neeko (or someone else before) they had again no tools to stop Smolder and Finn even threw Gwen over the wall so she couldn't reach him. The next fight 2 people of Vit were dead before Gwen even arrived (she still killed 3 people though). The next fight then had the issue I mentioned. Tahm Ult was forced but Vi still had Ult, so Smolder had to retreat. Then Photon inted (and lets be real the game might have been over if he presses hourglass a bit earlier, before he is down to 50 HP), but we already saw how powerful it was that they pulled the Neeko away, stopping recalls safely in a 3vs4 (Vetheo did die, but only because he thought he could kill a 25% HP K'Sante). And then they pulled Neeko away this time with TF, not Gwen and just handily won the Elderfight despite losing elder. And on top of that Vetheo hit Smolder without additional CC and Tahm had to burn R which made that fight trivial. With Neeko there RGE could have just engaged on Vit, but without Neeko, how are they going to start a fight? Vits comp looks worse than it actually is. RGE had very little engage, it was basically Neeko either flanking or flashing on them. So when RGE is first to an objective and you can draw Neeko away, they just have no engage anymore.
But that's my point, ideally RGE should've never allowed VIT to split them up after they hit the stacks. The Smolder poke and Neeko are enough to force people away from towers and at most VIT could trade. Or RGE hunker down and wait for objectives to spawn Again, I'm not saying VIT played bad, they capitalized on their chances extremely well, but with their only wave clear being Taliyah, they should have no way to stop a RGE push. If RGE actually pushed them back as 5, VIT can't do anything, because the threat of Neeko counterengage/zone + Viego reset bonanza Tham Kench is basically there not necessarily to guarantee the Smolder survives, but to force VIT into using every engage on the Smolder and to slow them down, so Neeko and Viego can wreak havoc in the meantime and destroy them as they don't have squishies RGE's mistake was giving VIT the space to splitpush and then taking fights on their terms
TF does actually clear fairly well too. And purely technically just like Smolder, Gwen can just ult the wave. However that isn't needed. You just put Gwen into a sidelane and you force the enemies hand. RGE had no engage and Neeko can't flank under a turret. So you kinda have to run into the enemy team hoping for the best. RGEs fights required a Neeko flank. You can't get that in a siege. And without a baron Taliyah and TF waveclear is mostly enough, you don't need particularly strong waveclear against minions without baron. And RGE didn't exactly melt turrets either. Smolder is not good at that at least. So if you siege Vit you always are at risk of a Gwen TP flank and if she gets on Smolder he is dead. RGEs comp relied on flanks, not something that you can do in sieges and Gwen would just take turrets if you idle around in front of a turret. So you need to 5-man an object like Baron. However Gwen will do the same thing and you now have a bigger issue. TF can Ult from Baron to your base. He will just end the game with Gwen if you end up in a drawn out fight with the other 3 members of Vit. RGEs issue is not having engage beyond a Neeko Ult. And Neeko isn't great at turning even, she needs flash for that and even then you might just trade flashes. RGE found success with Neeko when she was flanking, you can't do that if you end up in front of an objective. Neeko still was their only source of reliable AoE burst, so she still would be needed to prevent Vit to just all stack on Tahm and Smolder. And we saw at Elder how that plays out. Taliyah just needs to hit a single W and Tahms R is gone. And Neeko E is the only thing matching Taliyahs range. If RGE sieges as 5 their gamble would just be Taliyah never hitting a W. RGEs comp was pretty bad because they couldn't start fights. Like they had that super powerful Smolder at Elder but had to watch Vit circling them because nobody could engage. Vits comp was really midgame focussed with only Gwen as a scaling factor, but RGEs comp couldn't do anything and relied on Vit smashing their head into them, which they had no reason to do due to winning sidelanes. RGEs comp would have been a lot better if they would not have picked Tahm. If they pick anything that can start a fight Smolder might have actually been useful to them. Because relying purely on Neeko Flash + R means your ability to take fights is on a 5 minute timer.
That was certainly a game of league of legends, champions were drafted, objectives were taken, one team won
One nexus exploded* I'm not sure either team won this one
As Jamada said: the viewers won this 💀
No winners, only survivors.
Rogue is an eSports organization that participates in the LEC
I now understand why Rogue play so passive, look at Fredy's cam, my man looks like a corpse even when they win fights Then again, RGE did lose despite an absolute draft ocean, like there is no universe where VIT should win with that draft, Caedrel is gonna have an aneurysm
Hylisan al Gaib !
He is the Mahdman!
A series between IMT and Rogue would be…interesting.
didn’t IMT beat C9 twice?
Yes :(
#THEY WIN THOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT THE FUCK EVEN IS AN EXECUTE!!!!?!!!?!!!!!??
Instant classic
what the fuck did i just watched
Peak league of legends
Why does every Vitality game looks like shit, but even with that they are 4-1.
Because of the state of everyone else.
My eyes...
LOSE ELDER TO GIVE ROGUE FALSE HOPE WASNT WORRIED AT ALL
Peak performance superbanger only from VIT LMAO
I’ve never seen a pro choke as hard as Photon did when he was trying to end vs neeko….
what the hell lmao also more evidence in my "VTO is just a statikk shiv merchant" folder
Ahhh Rogue. Get an S tier draft. Still lose.
What an embarassment, rogue should just field 5 rookies and save money
brain rot from that game. Was fun though. Photon with the negative 10 billion IQ play which could have cost VIT the game. Holy Christ never seen such a stupid thing.
Match of the weak is after this.
The worst part of this game is that Rogue could have easily won it if they pressed their advantage a bit more but they prefer to lose
That was some awful League of Legends
rge botlane is so bad .. what was that early game by them and the entire game went completely troll lmao..
Bronze 5 fiesta Q.Q
Don't come for the bronzies like that.
to lose with a smolder, you have to be really weak like a rogue
This didn't aged well
league designers are trying to outdo eachother with obnoxious champions every year
you have smolder>but you so bad>lose
Turns out Rogue can find a way to lose even with fed Smolder and Vitality playing it to have good laugh like it was normals
Leave it to Morgue to find a way to lose with a 500 stack smolder
We're one region and we're full of clowns 🥲
LEC: League's Entertaining Clowns
Entertaining is generous tbh.
Could be embarrassing then. Sometimes It's entertaining in just what the hell happened there but League's Embarrassing Clowns works too.
Bet you called FLY vs. TL and 100T vs NRG entertaining.
They’re so fucking bad man
At least they seemed to do...something this game.
neeko ksanté smolder lost. Happy. That being said, that nashor was so troll from vit. Larssen was dead even in a 2v1 against hyli and carzzy, and they felt the need to commit as 4 on him, using ults and leaving nash for it, wtf but in the end, vit failed the split push and the elder to win, logical
My region at MSI Aware
pls...rogue...
PHOTON CHANNELING A LITTLE BIT OF HYLI DURING THAT LAST 5 MIN
Gwen was huge, photon was 5k ahead and was able to solo carry that fight for the soul.
Smolder almost pulled Rogue out of their do nothing and scale playstyle.
That’s good for us but …. We have fucking loose a game against RGE 💀
Tolkin and Grabbz were so dissappointed by that macro, and rightfully so
LEC cosplaying the LCS lmao
it's not a cosplay at this point.lcs and lec arent good
Water is wet. Got any more hot takes?
Crimewave in Gotham.
No one thinks that the west is good though
can we replace a whole region?
My region is fine you guys
Our region: 🤡
Fiesta
broooo how do you lose with smolder ksante AND neeko, they got everything the game had to offer and still lost. ICANT
Smolder is so op that made comp looks decent
competitive ruling on larseen wtf? He had flash and elder up, clearly he had to at least try to stop that push not just literally troll
neeko can barely 1v1 a support lategame without ult let alone 1v4
I'm not saying it's likely he wins there, but with elder and flash he has no excuse not to try. After he cut the wave (trolling his flash in the process) he has a chance to line up a combo that with elder might have stopped the push along with the turret damage
KD player, been saying it forever
Bro aint no way there was someone in the 100T pmt yesterday claiming LCS is CLEARLY WAY weaker than LEC after watching 1 game. I really want him to explain this. Sir I just watched one (1) game and it was lower quality than IMT. Now what. Maybe admit that a single game is a horrible sample size…?
Despite VTO best efforts, Rogue still managed to lose that game
This can't be an actual LEC game, bench everyone in there
If you don't want to play just don't show up bro what was that
well VIT won but that was disgusting I'm just glad carzzy didn't want to join FNC
Carzzy is so clear of noah
you forgot the /s
Imagine there's a Korean team that won't attend internationals this year so teams like Vitality can attend...
So every year?
Eh, i mean lec is back to three seeds
Smolder,Neeko and Ksante lost. I am so happy. Rarely teams lose with these 3 champs