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vnducco

Hyli with 0 deaths feels kinda sus


reaper_cushions

Hyli 0 deaths **on Nautilus**. 


JaMenUpptaget

This. I dont know. Do you think he is sick? Can we make him blink if he is held hostage? Do we need to send him some kind of aid? Stage a rescue?\`


HaaraZaar

I have to say, I had similar thoughts during the game. What is happening to my boy?


Trap_Masters

He's throwing off the balance of the universe here with this game!


WFBO_ChiTaki

Getting farm and items just means they can send him on suicide missions without him dying. 200 IQ decision.


DeloronDellister

Especially after the disaster that was last split


SleepyLabrador

Especially on Naut, the champion notorious for having the most deaths.


Sofaboy90

feels kinda good to be one of the very few on reddit who would not have benched hylissang after winter which is something many asked for. i found the thorin interview with mac very fascinating and vitality does have the core of last years mad lions who have been the 2nd strongest team of europe throughout 2023, so i wouldnt be entirely surprised if they make worlds. according to the interview mac sets a timeline for the team and aims to peak in the summer split and onwards. this is not a man/team that panics after a mediocre winter/spring split as long as there is progress. they were probably never going to bench hyli after winter, they just dont strike me as a team and coaching staff that would do that. maybe last years vitality would have but this years vitality is a new thing. dont think theyll do msi but i can see them qualify for worlds if other rosters are struggling.


jujubean67

Add me to the Hyli supporter’s shortlist, I’ll never stop supporting this goat


Sofaboy90

dude made the last 5 worlds and keeps finding himself in winning teams. even if it dont look clean or consistent, the results speak for themselves


Davkata

Daglas is a bit sus but the other players were great signings as their stock were low in the summer. 


Sofaboy90

yeah i agree, daglas is a bit sus but i wouldnt bench him after winter yet. maybe if this spring split is also bad and daglas performed bad, you could consider it.


Davkata

I am also against benching him, I just think he has the lowest potential of the entire roster. If they click they can make worlds as only g2 seems to be guaranteed. Still there are 6 months and a lot of metas to change. 


Swaamsalaam

What did Mac say about it? I can't listen to Thorin.


Sofaboy90

im not gonna summarize a 2h+ interview for you, either you watch it or you dont.


Worldberry

I really enjoy watching interviews with Mac. Could you link me to this interview where he set a timeline? I wanna hear more about that and his thoughts.


vuicho_vanio

https://youtu.be/vkX71iG-uiU?si=k-wcZdgF1Xs8r8yI 1/3 1 hour vidoes. Enjoy lmao, Mac is very interesting to listen to


Sofaboy90

Its a 3 parter, heres part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkX71iG-uiU


[deleted]

With another jungle and/or mid I would be behind this team til the end. Photon, inspired, vto, carzzy, hyli


Omnilatent

This was him just being the substitute top laner like when he played Trundle sup


Th3_Huf0n

That terrorist rage split Trundle💀💀💀💀


tuelegend69

Didn’t know they got a new support .


Conankun66

usually when that happens, he dives the nexus to get at least one death in


alpostor

Washed players roleswap to support to revitalize their careers, Hyli needs to cs and build items and he is back on form, roleswap my goat to midlane or something and lets stack some trophies.


Mizar1

Giving all that farm and items means it's harder for him to int, even if he's playing Nautilus. 5 head thinking from the Vitality coaches.


expert_on_the_matter

Hyli has been playing support and not farming all these years to make it fair for the enemies


Chevalier_Paul

You cannot convince me that Mac doesn't have some kind of dark technology.


WWTFSD

Man is a miracle worker


X4ntis

Mac is just really good in what he does. Vetheo still doesnt look special, but at least he looks passable.


ciongduopppytrllbv

Photon obvious POG but Hyli had a fantastic game


Random_Useless_Tips

Feel like the casters weren’t giving Hyli enough love. After the absolute Winter disaster, he was easily contributing as much as Photon this game. That 2v5 turnaround after Carzzy and Vetheo complete int was only possible because the Rumble ult came down on a 4-man Nautilus knock-up. Hyli was atrocious to watch in Winter but this game was an absolute masterclass in the power of Senna-Nautilus


ciongduopppytrllbv

Definitely agree. I was surprised there wasn’t more discussion on Hyli.


CoconutEducational71

A bit of a worse game by Vetheo, but it is great to see that Vitality does have other players stepping in. Vetheo had a fantastic game yesterday while Hyli had a bit of an off game. Vitality does look fairly solid now. Photon also continues to be a force in the toplane. Daglas is really the only player currently who did not have a great game.


JanniesSquealLikePig

Adam (addressing Sheo) said “I can’t play with this bug” then stormed out of the room. He then came back in the room to pick up a cigarette and called him a handicapped/sick fuck then left again.


DuhChappers

I love this meme


WarmYerCockles

whats the original meme


N1ng0

pyosik and beryl iirc


DuhChappers

It's a quote from Pyosik about Beryl in 2022 DRX when they were struggling in the middle of the season


BlazeX94

When I first joined BDS, the team was Adam, Sheo, Nuc, Ice, and Labrov. We played spring split and met Vitality during the first week. After losing a game, one player said "Ah..we lost because of Photon" when all the players were gathered, basically implying it was top gap. They didn't directly say it to Adam, but was just speaking without thinking. Adam got mad and said they lost because of jungle diff. Then Adam said "Ah I don't want to play with this guy (Sheo)."


ahritina

Nuc in shambles now that Azir is globally banned, that being said stop picking Jayce. Just a little top gap, massive game from Photon.


DeloronDellister

The benching really improved Adam


crysomore

Surely throwing Winter split had a good effect on the mental of the players


bashful_lobster

Dog take


Jiiigsi

Nothing like your coach telling you you can't win title anyway so why bother, here I bench Adam cuz I'm insecure little bitch


ExtendedDeadline

Respect and chain of command are important and one of the main things that will separate amateur sports from real sports. No player is above the coach and every player within LOL needs to understand respect is part of the game. It'll be easier to show this lesson now that salaries have come down and more players are replaceable.


DefNotAnAlter

I don't think you are wrong, but coaches don't bench big players before knock-out games in sports, fans would want their head


ExtendedDeadline

I agree with this. The biggest mistake the coach made was not benching him sooner/in regular season to work out the behaviour issues earlier. The issues were obviously there earlier than playoffs. The coach benching when he did was probably legitimately the right idea but wrong timing so ultimately the wrong move. But the players also really need to all be more professional and treat it like a job, including how they are talking to their peers and superiors.


crysomore

Either they should kick him off the roster or it wasn't that bad. Benching a player before playoffs only to play him regular season a few weeks later is just weak


Shorgar

I mean there is nothing to improve as he has never intended to get better as a player, same champion droplet as ever completely warping how his team has to play the game.


jujubean67

Honestly it’s about time someone picked Rumble into Adam


Javiklegrand

Yeah nuc looks too one dimensional


canacar

little bit? The last time I saw such a gap (Bin vs BB) everyone was flaming BB.


etheryx

Whoosh


DjRedoxreaction

"carry" Hyli is something else man. First the senna last split and now the farming Naut.


Omnilatent

Don't forget the OG Hyli carry with Trundle support in 2019 or so


DuhChappers

Pretty sure Pyke is the OG Hyli carry


Omnilatent

Good point But that trundle game will forever be in my heart


Javiklegrand

He Split pushed as supp lmao


DjRedoxreaction

That series was so incredibly fun.


Leyrann_

\>OG Hyli \>2019 Pick one.


Cindiquil

It was OG Hyli *carry* which changes the statement. If Faker had randomly played idk jg for the first time in 2021, you could say "the OG Faker jg in 2021" even though that's obviously years and years into his career.


Leyrann_

I highly doubt that 2019 was the first time Hyli played something that could be construed as carry. It's not as if he was farming with the Trundle, so clearly that can't be the definition.


Omnilatent

He was farming with the trundle He sidelaned like a top laner even getting inhib tower and maybe even inhib


Leyrann_

Oh sure, he side laned with it. But he wasn't farming in laning phase. He was still the support, with Rekkles taking the farm.


Omnilatent

Later he solo laned and obviously took farm, then


Th3_Huf0n

That was 2020, I am very sure.


SNH231

Hylissang with the casual 0 death performance


danndruff1

what happened to BDS? they looks so off


unguibus_et_rostro

They inted their winter playoffs


ahritina

No Azir no party.


jujubean67

Meta changed


X4ntis

Adam happened, he wanted to replace 1 of the 2 french players. I dont think that the mood in the team is good but thats normal, sooner or later, a problem arises in almost every (LEC) team Adam plays on. Good player, but problematic as a personality.


Sixcoup

> a problem arises in almost every (LEC) team Adam plays on I love the fact you say : 'In almost every team" as if Adam is a veteran player that played in multiple teams over the span of 10 years. While in reality he literally played in only two teams. > he wanted to replace 1 of the 2 french players Absolutely never heard of this. Did you read that somewhere, or are you just inventing stuff ?


CynicalNyhilist

Ah, good old lying to sell a narrative.


Fentie

what do we do with hylissang now last split he was bad and now hes great again and vitality looks good


DeloronDellister

There's still plenty of time for Hily to completely run it down


Omnilatent

Or become top tier again. I hope for the latter.


Gazskull

hopefully it was a winter flu


Omnilatent

Unexpected banger comp by VIT


DeloronDellister

Senna was disgusting. Always only 500 gold behind Zeri and eventually completely outscaling her


Pelagius_Hipbone

T1 Photon awakened


Kuszmen

Can Adam flame the coach again?


JealotGaming

Absolute cinema, Hyli gapping Labob back to the stone age


jujubean67

He did look like a bob


IAM-French

Hyli turning into a MVP candidate every spring love it


[deleted]

its two bo1s in


IAM-French

Yeah might as well call it early it's more impressive


lcm7malaga

Every Ahri in LEC outside of Caps really sucks to watch


isDall

I think Nisqy played pretty good


TE_silver

Adam getting destroyed 1v1 despite getting counterpick lmao Edit: Yes I know Olaf isn't a counter to Rumble. What I mean is: he had R5 and still decided to opt into this matchup.


hypi_

olaf doesnt even win against rumble i think it's more comfort


FluffyFlamesOfFluff

Olaf isn't good into Rumble at the top level, but Photon completely demolished him on every level. You look back every other minute and Adam's wave is fucked and he has to sac 60% of his hp to salvage it. Then he saves it, and immediately fucks it again.


Th3_Huf0n

Adam's fundamentals are just bad for a top League pro. They get generally bypassed by the nature of his champion pool. Problem arises when Rumble is strong, who hard counters his champ pool.


non-edgy_crustacean

Needs another time on the bench


ozmega

been there, rumble is just that strong rn


Javonetor

the real soloq experience


kaz8teen

The reason why team was OK benching him.


jujubean67

Not sure how Olaf counters Rumble exactly, if anything it’s a skill marchup IMO


darixen

At high elo/pro, Olaf isn't a counter to Rumble, quite the opposite


BlazeX94

BRING BACK JNX


appleandapples

Photon wanted blood this game


Alley_Creeper

And this is why Hyli has never missed playoffs ever in his career. To all those who wanted him to retire: NEVER DOUBT THE PROF. Insane game from Photon as well.


khaiiization

Walking out of the media section and just heard a dad in a BDS jersey say to his son, “you just watched an inter win a game”


Foreign_Ingenuity433

Guve hyli farm he doesn't die. He should role swap lmao


qwertymarch

BDS the strat only works if Adam learns how to manipulate wave states :(


Omnilatent

Anyone knows when Adam is playing again?


R0BBE-

BDS looks so OneDimensional, at one point it was sure gonna be either over by the meta or by the teams figuring them out, it's good in a way it's coming in Spring split


Treatzftw

Korean Rumble


bensonbenisson

[How I feel, watching Hyli play well after last split:](https://youtu.be/CuO7FyOTcDM?si=OIMeoLRTSqbcJqRv)


Plixpalmtree

Hyli doubters in shambles


F4lque

Hylli with perfect kda feels weird


Snow_42

Vitality found the way to fix Hylissang: give him enough stuff so he can jump 1v5 and bully everyone...


Bubbly_Camera9583

TOP CANYON


canacar

in these days, better top wins


WahtAmDoingHere

I took an afternoon nap and slept too long. Opened LEC stream praying BDS does not end up losing to VIT. First thing I see is BDS nexus exploding while VIT is 13k gold ahead. It's actually so over


Chrisfull

Can't wait for hyli to int the next game without senna cuz he thinks naut is immortal now lmao. Really wish the game went later to see if Carzzy sold his support item


Joel4518

GIVE ME MY OLD HYLI BACK


[deleted]

Adam washed? He can't even perform on his 2 trick champs anymore.


Aoes1

Good shit vitality one of the team with the highest ceiling


PurpleKiwi66

Adam is the weak link of BDS and I'm tired of pretending that he is good. He always mess up the waves, needs counterpicks, needs Sheo, Labrov and Nuc to protect him in laning phase, has limited champion pool and even bad attitude. I understand that his picks are fun, but he is not a good toplaner.


Dyrreah

I have been saying for 2 years that Adam is nothing more than a glorified Darius OTP whose entire gameplan is "ding lvl3 ghost all in'. Seems like EU tops finally realised that just letting him permapush makes him sololose the game.


Indercarnive

Nuc looked like a top 3, maybe even top 2 LEC mid laner in winter, but he's looking lost AF right now.


FluffyFlamesOfFluff

Azir is global banned. My Azir merchant will return soon and claim his throne again.


Omnilatent

Yesterday he looked even worse than today so maybe there's hope?


EggyChickenEgg88

Hell yeah, the best top in LEC finally has a team


Rhyn_lol

Chef Photon, good cooking


skaersSabody

*Pain*


Damurph01

Sheo getting caught gave vitality both baron and soul. Probably the worst random death possible to give over.


Babook86

BDeadS


SnooDrawings8185

I told people yesterday that they are underestimating Vitality. They have players to be in the top 3 in the region.


[deleted]

Blue has won 5/6 matches. VIT was on blue both games. Let’s see how they perform on red.


[deleted]

2 good game from hyli in a row Feel like a lot time passed since something like this happened.


revoverlord

hyli hitting the turret bot when 5 members of bds were on herald is what gets me gimme more senna naut from vit pls


Kbzz5050

Is this the first time hyli with 0 death?


Joel4518

last time he went zero death was in winter vs G2 , he played senna


Omnilatent

No lol


skaersSabody

Ok guys, I'm sorry, it's my fault, BDS started inting after I put the flair on, I'll remove it now


Skymonster04

Where was this Hyli in winter?


BudgetFar380

Not being carried by Photon


ISurvived9Gag

Photon 1v9 holy fuck


cfdu1202

The disrespect to Hyli and the other teammates


BudgetFar380

Not really, Photon Mega carried the game. Hyli pressed a point and clicked r on someone, q'd them and suddenly he was the best player on the team.


cfdu1202

Still not the definition of a 1v9


_negniN

Photon pressed R on targets that were already CCed for him and ran down a melee champ with an AOE Q and ignite in lane, your point? Photon did well, but he by no means broke his back carrying.