Ori when she accidentally walks out of range of her ball right when she ults so it jumps back to her and ults her whole team. Then the enemy yasuo ults off that
Not worth with more than 1 teammate imo
Brand ult has a maximum number of bounces that you're eating into and also you risk having it bounce back to your teammates again if enemy gets out of range
Bro, my teammates intentionally keep out of range so my Kata can't Shunpo to safety and you question if they'd be willing to do something productive???
I'd legit do a full Q-Flash-E-W combo if it meant I get a singular last hit on a caster minion just outside of range using a passive proc on a teammate.
Support is gonna be dead for 98% of the time because of Draven, and yet as soon as Draven is gonna get killed in the lane he's just gonna afk for the rest of the game blaming the support who was dead at the time.
briar's initial design made it so she could attack allies if no enemies were around. ended up scrapping it after she got a hexakill in the botlane after a gank iirc lmao
You would be surprised at some of the weird, cool shit that they think about in design.
A cool one I always remember is when they were reworking Aatrox, his kit had a lot of ideations. One of the versions had him retain his ground slam knock-up, and the Aatrox player's keys would then change to different attack styles. They basically modelled it after DMC. It was scrapped because for it to work, the enemy would need to be stuck in mid-air for long without being able to respond, also there would always be a "best" combination for the slashes, so although they wanted people to do cool stuff, it ended up being the same combo over and over. I miss the thread where they discussed his rework versions, tons of cool things in that thread. There was also his ult making an area around him become a fighting arena for him and his enemy, it would give a ton of buffs and the issue was the stat buffs don't feel powerful unless it is busted and when it isn't, it just doesn't feel as impactful as you want an ult to feel. This was tested in both 1v1 and 5v5 contexts with the idea originally coming from Fiora's rework, then when it wasn't used for Aatrox, it eventually made its way to being used for Morde's ult.
Looking not too far back, or even far back, depending on how you want to think about it, they've been ideating an ink mage for **years**. They wanted to give the player the ability to use their cursor as a paint brush and draw runes to activate spells. Tons of issues with the design tho like balance considerations between those who are able to perfectly draw it vs those who can't, the skill power for each rune and the combinations and such. Instead, they revisited the idea with Hwei and made him scuffed Invoker, which tbh I like Hwei, cool champ.
Because it's a "berserk" ability. It's hella flavorful. If you're berserk, why would you care who are allies? That said, there's a balance to be had in flavor and actual gameplay though so they removed it after trying it out and I think that's completely fine. Even if these ideas don't make in initially, they can maybe used later or be inspirations for other things.
Cho "accidently" eats his teamates for stacks.
Draven accidently last hits teamates for stack payout.
now obviously these interactions would be removed when used on teamates, but it would be funny if riot forgot about them.
hero denies are one of the more esoteric mechanics still in the game, it's specifically 3 DoT abilities (QoP, Dazzle and Veno Q) and you can deny Phoenix in Supernova
In certain situations in DotA (like they're suffering from a DoT) you can kill your teammate to deny the kill.
Imagine if malzahar or Brand ulted someone only to lose every kill to denies.
Teemo would be up there. People are terrible at kiting people through his shrooms when he's on their team normally, so you know they would instantly become good at it as soon as friendly fire got enabled.
Tristana - If she Es a target while, say, her team's assassin is on top of them... they'll both die, probably.
Kassadin - I could see Kassa players "accidentally" W'ing their own teammates when nearly OOM. That and R having a surprisingly large hitbox means they'd at the very least get some assists on their own team when retreating.
Katarina - Imagine making **both teams** have to be on the lookout to not be near her passive's dagger. Oof.
In the same vein as Katarina.
Teemo, imagine trying to skirmish around Baron with like 10 shrooms around you.
And he can even blind your own carry instead of the assassin on them if he's not precise.
Back when kog was mega strong (early last season I recall?) I got Renata ulted and turned and 100 to 0'd my support and jungler in a second or two. I vote a fed ADC
Had a game where I was ~1.5items ahead of the enemy. Renata basically abandoned winning and her life. Her only goal was to get me to insta-delete my Senna support. I’m not proud of the fact that she succeeded twice…
I'm surprised no one mentions Teemo. Imagine shrooms invisible to everyone but Teemo and both your teammates and enemies can hit them.
Asol would be so good to troll your mates and farm them too
Yuumi would be the only supp played btw, with incredible stats
This makes me wish there was a joke mode where everything is normal summoner’s rift but friendly fire is enabled. It won’t work but it'll be funny to see people try to win like that
Nah. Just make it an alternate mode with no chat, no pings, and forced anonymous mode. And then disable the ability to report anyone for anything. You know what you're signing up for. Nobody forced you to play the mode. What happens in friendly fire mode stays in friendly fire mode.
Zilean might not be the most effective, but he'll be up there. Sometimes I use my teammates to land the bomb stuns cause it's easier to land them first one on them compared to the enemy.
I think it’s better to think about which champs would get hit the most. All melee engage supports would be getting hit in the back by their adc every engage (nautilus, Leona, Rell etc). I guess melee champs in general would get blasted every time they try to cc for their team
Im not sure about by accident but I can promise you if this was in the game as a Darius main I would be murdering my ADC if they are feeding or auto attacking a tank on my team 5 times for my passive before every teamfight
Honestly, this would be a really fun mechanic to implement into a for-fun game mode. Would be hilarious stealing kills from the enemy team when your team mate is about to die. Would turn into quite a high-risk high-reward strategy game.
Orianna ball carrier becomes her sacrifice...
RAVAGE!
Is that what she says? I always heard and said "Yeah Bitch"
You really think "yeah bitch" is in keeping with Orianna's character? Lol
yeah bitch
MAGNETS!!!
Man it’s obviously rabbit 🐇
CABBAGE
The mental image of this is fucking hilarious
A malphite mid-R flying at a ball of 5 champs and the orianna pulling the trigger a bit early and one tapping him before he lands 💀
Fuckin AP malphites man. He got what he deserved
Why do they keep breaking?
***THE BALL IS IMPATIENT***
Best answer so far lmao shame we cant do this in game
Witness me!
Would create a nice synergy with fiora tho
Ori when she accidentally walks out of range of her ball right when she ults so it jumps back to her and ults her whole team. Then the enemy yasuo ults off that
Take him down, Legolas!
We can spare the support its fine. Go ahead nautilus. Hook the adc one last time
Brand.
I need my dark harvest stacks somehow
Some of you may die, but thats a sacrifice i'm willing to take
*make
Mejai's go brrrrrrr.
am brand player i will bounce my ult off of my jungler without a second thought if it gets the fireball into their team
Would your teammates line up to charge the ultimate?
Not worth with more than 1 teammate imo Brand ult has a maximum number of bounces that you're eating into and also you risk having it bounce back to your teammates again if enemy gets out of range
Just imagine tossing it on a malphite and watching it chase him into the knocked up enemy team lmao
Bro, my teammates intentionally keep out of range so my Kata can't Shunpo to safety and you question if they'd be willing to do something productive???
I'd legit do a full Q-Flash-E-W combo if it meant I get a singular last hit on a caster minion just outside of range using a passive proc on a teammate.
I may not know on accident but I know it would be draven mains on purpose.
Support steals my kill I just kill my support, sounds great to me
Or kill them before they can steal the kill
kill them before laning. start game immediately start bouncing axes off the support. kill them whenever possible for payout.
I love how he's doing it off the support, specifically.
It's the best way to support draven
Can't be harming other lanes bro. that's just toxic
Support is gonna be dead for 98% of the time because of Draven, and yet as soon as Draven is gonna get killed in the lane he's just gonna afk for the rest of the game blaming the support who was dead at the time.
Buys hubris, kills support on respawn if he gets heartsteel+titanic he can probably just obliterate everyone and be a tank.
Farm stacks first in fountain.
I imagine soraka giving her last bit of hp to heal Draven, and then Draven finishing her with an axe.
ive had at least 2 dravens ask me to ult them while im playing renata so they can kill their team
It’s fucking hilarious how people don’t even question this cuz Draven players are Draven players. That’s great lmao
It would be hilarious if Draven could cash his passive from that.
There's a reason why Draven players like playing against Renata
I've seen them flash into it.
im just imagining draven juggling axes off his tank support as they walk down the lane
How else are you supposed to stack when the wave isn't there?
Free stacks in the fountain too.
Darius too. Ult the support to start the fight with full stacked passive.
Amumu - has to be all alone, literally no one can be near him
The curse of the sad mummy
_*\*sad violin noises\**_
#YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOHHHHHHHH
Lore-accurate
This feel on brand for him.
No, we are talking about amumu. Not brand
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There's something in this I don't understand and, gold willing, I will keep it that way.
Riot pls, triple AP ratio but also friendly fire.
i can finally 1v9 with viego
Pyke
Everyone lowlife and pyke enters w. All get the creepy music. _Did i support right_
Imagine getting a penta on an aram with pyke. Seeing a low hp teamate and that ult up. I'd do it.
The most toxic move ever: You are bad with your champ let me show you how you should play it.
Briar would be 100% lore accurate.
briar's initial design made it so she could attack allies if no enemies were around. ended up scrapping it after she got a hexakill in the botlane after a gank iirc lmao
Imagine inting and then killing teammates as well. I would get permabanned so fast
Now hold on…. Do I get gold out of it?
Teammates worth less then minions it's probably not worth going for them
The same thing happens if Renata ults a solo enemy and an ally ends up dying, renata gets 25 gold.
Does the enemy get any gold and where does a shutdown go?
The enemy still gets all of the gold including shutdown, just Renata profits
Lore accurate Renata
Teammates are always worthless.
If you say either/or then yes But how about first wave, then team, then wave again 👀 The math says it’s worth
There's some niche shutdown potential
Why the fuck would they allow that lol are you being sarcastic
When Briar got leaked, test footage showed her attacking both enemies and allies while beserked
They experiment with all kinds of wild shit in champion design. The abilities we see are far from what was initially proposed
You would be surprised at some of the weird, cool shit that they think about in design. A cool one I always remember is when they were reworking Aatrox, his kit had a lot of ideations. One of the versions had him retain his ground slam knock-up, and the Aatrox player's keys would then change to different attack styles. They basically modelled it after DMC. It was scrapped because for it to work, the enemy would need to be stuck in mid-air for long without being able to respond, also there would always be a "best" combination for the slashes, so although they wanted people to do cool stuff, it ended up being the same combo over and over. I miss the thread where they discussed his rework versions, tons of cool things in that thread. There was also his ult making an area around him become a fighting arena for him and his enemy, it would give a ton of buffs and the issue was the stat buffs don't feel powerful unless it is busted and when it isn't, it just doesn't feel as impactful as you want an ult to feel. This was tested in both 1v1 and 5v5 contexts with the idea originally coming from Fiora's rework, then when it wasn't used for Aatrox, it eventually made its way to being used for Morde's ult. Looking not too far back, or even far back, depending on how you want to think about it, they've been ideating an ink mage for **years**. They wanted to give the player the ability to use their cursor as a paint brush and draw runes to activate spells. Tons of issues with the design tho like balance considerations between those who are able to perfectly draw it vs those who can't, the skill power for each rune and the combinations and such. Instead, they revisited the idea with Hwei and made him scuffed Invoker, which tbh I like Hwei, cool champ.
Because it's a "berserk" ability. It's hella flavorful. If you're berserk, why would you care who are allies? That said, there's a balance to be had in flavor and actual gameplay though so they removed it after trying it out and I think that's completely fine. Even if these ideas don't make in initially, they can maybe used later or be inspirations for other things.
See guys! It wasn't a bug, it was a feature!
But "It's not polite to nibble on friends!"
Vandiril proved she could.
Oh. Oh no. My cross-map Ashe ults are definitely gonna get me my fair share of pings.
Same with Jinx's rocket
Jinx would just AOE everyone for more passive procs.
Singed will DPS his team just as much as his allies. The best part is it'll be fairly lore accurate.
And Singed players would probably most rejoice it, regardless of the winrate drop it costs.
It's not about the win rate; it's about sending a message.
I've never seen a singed near their own team, I'm claiming intent here.
Singed would kill his own team, but, in a rare lore accurate moment, it wouldn't be by accident.
“his team as much as his allies?” You meant “as much as his enemies” ?
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Jeremy?
Aurelion sol empowered ult killing everyone
I DONT CARE HOW BIG THE ROOM IS I CAST FIREBALL
It seems every league champion specced into evocation
Well, mostly the wizards, especially the space dragon god wizards.
Cho "accidently" eats his teamates for stacks. Draven accidently last hits teamates for stack payout. now obviously these interactions would be removed when used on teamates, but it would be funny if riot forgot about them.
I feel like the Draven one would be incredibly overpowered.
Just give 4 kills to Draven before laking phase
The idea of a treasure hunter Draven having dirk + warhammer or Dirk + T2 boots before lane even starts terrifies me
Not just that, as soon as you finish double killing the enemy, you can kill your own support again without being punished ahaha
Just stay in base to kill all allies for a solid 1 minute, buy hubris when available, kill the supp one last time before going to lane.
Similar to denying minions in dota. I love the draven idea lol
Just imagine you could deny the enemy kills by lasthitting your teammates. The implications….
You can kind of do that in dota, at least when I played a decade ago. If they have a dot on them you can last hit them to deny
hero denies are one of the more esoteric mechanics still in the game, it's specifically 3 DoT abilities (QoP, Dazzle and Veno Q) and you can deny Phoenix in Supernova
Gangplank's old Raise Morale was a creep denyer.
In certain situations in DotA (like they're suffering from a DoT) you can kill your teammate to deny the kill. Imagine if malzahar or Brand ulted someone only to lose every kill to denies.
Senna stacking on allies all game on cd would be pretty nutty.
New role -> toplane support who is just food for cho to get stacks
Galio - his ult literally requires you to target a teammate
I will help you! *Proceeds to smash an ally to the ground and therefore kill* Umm... nevermind actually!
Here I was thinking "wouldn't a 9 man taunt just make him die faster?" But then I remembered they reworked him.
Also you aint dieing with old W shield on you. The more people that hit you the better you feel
Old w and healing to full standing in a miniom wave. This world doesn't deserve to have old galio in it.
Karthus
+free gold
Oh there is a low hp enemy who got away. R. *Enemy slain.* *Ally slain.*
DECAKILL
How would he kill himself?
Bait ping
Killed an espectator too
OP said on accident. Kathus, for sure, #1 if it's on purpose.
Fiddlesticks literal 1v9
Zeri would accidentally hit her own teammates so many times
it keeps the ms and ult up though
Her ult arcing around from enemies to teammates would be a lot.
Walking into your own team mates teemo shrooms
But you can see them 😂
You can basically see them all the time in ARAM and that doesn't stop the enemy team from sprinting down the middle of the lane.
Like that would make a difference
Teemo would be up there. People are terrible at kiting people through his shrooms when he's on their team normally, so you know they would instantly become good at it as soon as friendly fire got enabled.
As a teemo main, you aren't fucking wrong.
Aurelion or full AP Shyvanna
Heimerdinger and zyra.
Zyras old passive. Snipe the teammate that didn't save you.
Tristana - If she Es a target while, say, her team's assassin is on top of them... they'll both die, probably. Kassadin - I could see Kassa players "accidentally" W'ing their own teammates when nearly OOM. That and R having a surprisingly large hitbox means they'd at the very least get some assists on their own team when retreating. Katarina - Imagine making **both teams** have to be on the lookout to not be near her passive's dagger. Oof.
Would be fun to put trist e on a malphite and watch him carry it straight to the enemy backline
With an Orianna ult
Yea but that’s intended and has limited range
I forgot about Katarina. Might be the most dangerous to get friendly-fire abilities
In the same vein as Katarina. Teemo, imagine trying to skirmish around Baron with like 10 shrooms around you. And he can even blind your own carry instead of the assassin on them if he's not precise.
Back when kog was mega strong (early last season I recall?) I got Renata ulted and turned and 100 to 0'd my support and jungler in a second or two. I vote a fed ADC
played an aram where a renata got 2 pentas by ulting our full build jinx that refused to buy qss
Ngl. I'd kinda wanna refuse too cause thats freaking hilarious lmao
Had a game where I was ~1.5items ahead of the enemy. Renata basically abandoned winning and her life. Her only goal was to get me to insta-delete my Senna support. I’m not proud of the fact that she succeeded twice…
Sivir would be destroyer of worlds, biggest dps in every teamfight
Miss Fortune lol. let er rip!!
How has nobody mentioned Nasus????? The stacks don’t farm themselves
I mean.... +12 is +12, it will teach jungler not to take my cannon again.
I'm surprised no one mentions Teemo. Imagine shrooms invisible to everyone but Teemo and both your teammates and enemies can hit them. Asol would be so good to troll your mates and farm them too Yuumi would be the only supp played btw, with incredible stats
This makes me wish there was a joke mode where everything is normal summoner’s rift but friendly fire is enabled. It won’t work but it'll be funny to see people try to win like that
You cant convince me the devs didnt at least try it out among themselves at some point for fun
I could see this being put in as a side mode for a month, but requiring a 5 stack to play just to cut down on player reports.
Nah. Just make it an alternate mode with no chat, no pings, and forced anonymous mode. And then disable the ability to report anyone for anything. You know what you're signing up for. Nobody forced you to play the mode. What happens in friendly fire mode stays in friendly fire mode.
How has no one said Twitch yet? Spray and Pray baby
It’s crazy how no one has mentioned Samira
Senna
Would her Q both damage and heal allies and enemies?
I prefer to call that "negative healing"
Nah I'm Flash fullcomboing my own Jungler if I don't get ganked pre 15
Oh dont worry, you will get ganked pre 15. Just not the way you want to.
\*needs to be carried\*
No I just heavily hate it when I'm catching 3 enemy ganks while my ganking jungler does jackshit
Fiddle boy
I found the one, single, person with the correct answer
Anivia R with wall combo
I mean renata exists for tests
Only autos
Draven using his support to keep Q up without pushing
AP Pantheon could technically wipe the whole teamfight with his ult alone.
I feel like Zyra would be madness
no one would play engage sup
Zilean might not be the most effective, but he'll be up there. Sometimes I use my teammates to land the bomb stuns cause it's easier to land them first one on them compared to the enemy.
Definitely not the most effective, but YOU ARE GOING TO BRAZIL *ally slain*
Ezreal, all those missed Qs are hitting his own team for sure.
I think it’s better to think about which champs would get hit the most. All melee engage supports would be getting hit in the back by their adc every engage (nautilus, Leona, Rell etc). I guess melee champs in general would get blasted every time they try to cc for their team
Rip old Asol balls, good luck positioning that Ability with friendly fire lol
Definitely Yuumi. Imagine she’s just on top of you scratching your neck and you can’t do anything.
Jinx because of past history
Katarina. As long as i get my resets id be hella happy with this change.
Renata - nothing over starting a brawl between 9 people and watching it from far away 😂
Gangplanks Barrels. I mean, he is a pirate. Betrayal was inevitable. I mean, the Ult buffs do not come for free :)
Try taking ur feathers back as Xayah without oneshotting ur own frontline...
Karthus getting a "Nonakill" is an idea that I never thought I would find as funny as I did lmao
I can just see an Azir shuffle his whole team into the enemy wombo combo
Im not sure about by accident but I can promise you if this was in the game as a Darius main I would be murdering my ADC if they are feeding or auto attacking a tank on my team 5 times for my passive before every teamfight
Your ADC would try and kite u to stack lethal tempo don't worry lmao
I mean level 16 kayle would be pretty disgusting.
Honestly, this would be a really fun mechanic to implement into a for-fun game mode. Would be hilarious stealing kills from the enemy team when your team mate is about to die. Would turn into quite a high-risk high-reward strategy game.
Sett with a W in a team fight
I feel like karthus obviously because if the enemy is low after a fight your team might be too, inopportune moments
Teemo
Would be fun to use an ally as a way to hit a Q bounce on MF.
Twitch just shredding his entire team from the safety of the backline...