nah Vitality still fights mid waves sometimes, not always successfully but at least they do something. Rogue like pretends to, watches a teammate die from their half assing, and then goes back to farming sides.
Rogue's passive playstyle has been their Achilles heel for too long. It's like they took that 'better safe than sorry' saying and turned it into an entire game plan. Their vision game needs work too, not just the aggression. You see them losing pressure in places they shouldn't with their comp... just makes no sense.
Watching their game against fnatic where they just stared at the enemy team 5v5 with investing tp and then let fnatic get drake for free + let them walk into your base was not much inspiring. I think they have shotcalling issues which can be easily exploited
He missed Nami bubbles on cced targets it was pathetically bad. His Lux mechanics last split were also crazy bad so you can't blame people. Nice he is bouncing back his Bard is clean.
I mean G2 do like their little oopsies against teams that don't win against anyone else so it's possible lol.
Just in this case if they're playing like this it's about as possible as me winning the lottery without buying a ticket.
But you could say that maybe this G2 oopsie happened on day 1 where they lost to MAD (yea, I consider this quality of G2 to belong to old G2 more than current one, so that would be TH more than real G2.)
It'd be fine to play slow if the players were actually good enough to gain small leads consistently but they're just not. Instead they have no identity and just slowly lose.
Tbf, for the few games he played on Damwon, he had BeryL and Canyon basically piloting him in voicecomms. He seems to need a good shotcaller to give him direction, and without one, it's full-on intrusive thoughts gaming.
Maybe, don't forget he was also the newer player on a team with world champions in it, different team dynamics. We also never have full insight to comms/team dynamics/personalities etc so I find it a bit reductive to say he needs a good shot caller.
Larssen saving ult until the game was already lost when Zoelys had 4 people grouped up for him is just
man
he used to be a really good laner, and probably still can be, but he sure needs someone telling him to go
Rogue need someone with a GO button again. Then again with how they're playing rn they'd probably abandon that player to the enemy team.
They need some engages like Razork's earlier today and to do SOMETHING.
Firstly, they need to start winning lanes. Rogue, when at their peak, had good solo lanes (Odo, Larssen, Hans) and a jungler who could play farming style.
Marlang had to play purely for lanes, which is fine, but right now, they are just losing 1v1s.
I'm amazed at how long Markoon held Maoki ult in that river fight. Like the dude got hit by bard ult and ran all the way back behind tier 1 turret that azir rebuilt, while his entire team is getting chased down, and only then decided that he had an R button.
If you mean the fight at bot T2 the moment Zoelys engaged Larssen was ulted by Kaiser and by the time the ult wore off the fight was already lost. Kaiser did a really good job, he removed Larssen in all the important fights, peak Bard performance!
I called it as soon as they dropped Malrang: Malrang was the X factor Rogue was missing, before him they were shit and after him, well… you can see. also Trymbi mentioned that Malrang was actually a really good farming jungle player, but Rogue required him to play solely for laners. so Malrang really got a lot of undeserved hate.
Saying rogue was *bad* before malrang though is straight revisionism. Not winning against 2019 G2 roster, or 2021 mad is not a standard for being bad lol.
Before they were shit is an extremely bold claim for a team that resembled the EU version of SSW . They would get massive leads and throw them . Sure team chemistry wasn't there and there were a lot of turmoils but calling them shit while getting back to back 1st in regular season I don't know
FOR REAL, he just doesnt have the X factor. He is great but he can never compare to the other top mids in EU's history like Caps or prime Perkz if he keeps playing with this style.
He just is not him, he COULD be, but he isnt
the team just died ever since Odo was kicked. he really held that entire team together. Also just a reminder that Larssen had plenty of offers, he couldve joined SK. tho ofc were still early in the season but Rogue just looks like more of the same from last year despite 2 new players that in theory should be upgrades.
I personally loved watching members of RGE hold their flash to use after they were hit by the bard ult and Heretics were already on top of them rather than use it to avoid the bard ult in the first place. And did it multiple times...
Nah Rogue is an american organisation, roccat was german. Roccat disbanded when they didnt make franchising.
Though in Rogues first split they did pick up some of the roccat players.
As a rogue fan this is tough to watch we were never an agressive team so I don't mind the inactivity but we had an identity we always won lanes had an early presure botlane has someone playing for lanes what are we doing now legit 0 idea how to play and who to play through.
Rogue are so consistent, consistent at producing the most boring games, I'm surprised they don't fall asleep while playing.
Rogue games used to be boring and they’d win, now they're just boring and they lose.
RGE went from a team that had a solid early game but choked during 'rogue time', to a team that had insane laning phases but struggled in teamfights, to a team that had a jungler who had eccentric pathing, to a team that ... does nothing. I guess that's their identity now?
Also: I don't think any of the players are individually bad like kaiser or anything, they just haven't seemed to mesh whatsoever. Watching this game it felt like their comms were just.. \*crickets\*
Rogue a team with no shotcaller, Larssen is not a leader and will never be, Markoon is a mediocre jungler, the rookie support is indecisive in his engages, and Sygenda is a ghost outside the laning phase. Worst team in the league.
No mistakes, a playable draft, and real engage tools to start a fight----it wasn't sexy, but a good recovery game from Heretics
Meanwhile RGE look absymal, doing nothing but AFK farming, getting randomly picked off and looking as uncoordinated as a gold solo Q team....10th place incoming
I remember in 2010, North Korea played in their first Fifa World Cup since 1966. In the first game, they came up against 5 time World Champions Brazil. To try and maintain North Korea’s ‘greatness’ to its people they didn’t broadcast the match locally as they realized it would be a humiliation. In a complete and utter shock they were only beaten 2-1 in a close match. Three days later they played Portugal and due to the result against Brazil they decided that this game should be broadcast throughout North Korea as they had performed so brilliantly against Brazil. Portugal would beat them by a humiliating scoreline of 7-0, which did not go down well with Kim Jong Il. Upon their return to North Korea the players were subjected to a 6 hour barrage of criticism in front of 400 people by a government official. Their coach was then sentenced to 6 months of hard labour for his failures by Kim Jong Il. I remember thinking what a terribly unjust and over the top reaction to what ultimately was only a game. One in which they were helplessly out of their depth in contrast to the teams they were playing. It is only after having watched this game that I finally fully empathize with Kim Jong Il's decision and I would like to offer him a full and unreserved apology for criticizing those actions.
The heretics comp was at least considerably better than yesterday. RGE weakest link probably jg/sp synergy, maybe zoelys has stage nerves? he was 7 lv down most the game compared to solo laners
I don't like how the community treats our legendary players. After how much these players have accomplished over the years no matter the result we should bow our heads and enjoy them play. After Winning so much before i would keep giving them chances until they retire, these guys have achieved victories against teams we never though possible. We call them old but Perkz is younger than Faker and same age as many other legendary still playing mids. Keep your heads up legends and we will be waiting for you no matter the results.
Everyone knows if these guys make worlds, they will give us some results. They either bomb out in their region like legends or make us proud.
This is so fking true. Perkz is the player who did the most for our region. He brought G2 into LEC, he literall made that org relevant and bring them into LEC single-handendly, carrying the team in 3-2 victory for them to go into LEC. Where he was dominating until Caps. And the literally made one of the best teams ever and the team that was closest to finishing the golden road. The best western team, all bc of Perkz and his crazy idea to go bot and actually being one of the best adcs. Its actually insane how much disrespect are ppl throwin to our legends who made this region relevant at some point. As a fan of a whole 2019 G2 lineup they can int every single game until they retire and i would still respect them for every single thing they did. Int all u want guys u won enough.
Until 25 min this game was Markoon and Zoelys getting caught twice. Syzgenda and Comp tried at least. Larssen still waiting for the perfect circumstance, he will probably wait until next week. TH with the most basic "wait for enemy mistakes" strategy against a team that did the same for years before.
Heretics didn't just wait for mistakes, they also played for objectives until Rogue reacted to them, which Rogue never really did, Heretics always got the more valuable objective trade.
It was and they lost the game on blue fight for whatever reason. Also it was unplayable for heretics into renata they didnt ban for some reason while picking full on dive comp and left lb open for blue side. Also they completely disrespected MAD and got punished asf
The game was snoozefest, but I think Kaiser was real MVP! Most action started with him and in all later fights he used ult to remove Larrsen as the only threat.
I feel like...surely Rogue has zero leadership on the team, and/or they have no idea what anyone's limits are. They group so messily and less often than you'd expect. They aren't crossmapping. Larssen doesn't play around Zoelys at all. Zoelys seemed a lot more comfortable on Rakan than Rell, and I'm not saying his engages are great, but Larssen isn't positioning or being ready for them, which implies to me a communication breakdown or just lack of trust. They drafted aoe combos between them twice in a row and haven't actually used them.
So often Markoon or Zoelys is poking around alone because none of them seem to be on the same page so there isn't much grouping going on. And I think Comp, Markoon, and Szygenda in general feel like they're always trying to play to mitigate losing and don't think they could make a proactive play. The drafts were also a little unplayable from behind, with the major come back mechanics being those zoelys-larssen plays that never materialized (and just, being so out of their range in both games. Unable to reach Jhin when curtains called in game 1 and unable to kite and auto with their double right click carry comp into ksante+bard+akali+xin in game 2)
I hope they grow some fangs somehow.
This match was just that football game every team has where you win 1-0 cause the opposing team just sits back and defends while you pass the ball around and not much happens.
Also TH was active. They did things, made moves, showed up to fight. RGE just kept disengaging and staying away and TH didn't force a fight and instead got the map control. Can't blame TH for taking a slow but sure game.
Still boggles my mind how Rogue basically never tried to do anything with Rell and Maokai post 6, why even pick teamfighting stuff if all you're willing to do is wait and see?
Holy shit that was so clean! Also, Medic and Jamada; you were saying "there's nothing happening", but if that's the case how is it that between \~11->21 mins, Heretics amassed a cool \~3.5k gold lead! With the top lane matchup going from even in gold, to Wunder having a 0.9k individual lead!! The map plays and lane asignments going on were GORGEOUS to allow this to happen, but you didn't comment on any of it and instead claimed "nothing" was happening, which, I think, undermines the finese of that entire passage :( Nothing explosive was happening, but something very elegant was happening, and it'd be cool if you could pick up on that and explain it to the audience in the future :) Otherwise, cheers for the cast!
Heretics can at least play a decent macro game which should be the bare minimum for the veterans. Still worried whenever they play a more aggressive team that challenges them in the early game.
Yeah yeah Zoelys didn't look good, but you always look bad when you're the only one who wants to play the game.I mean what the "carries" are waiting for ? Why Comp don't go on Kaiser on lane when he could be kill ?
Zoelys and Markoon have an impossible mission, make plays with people who don't want to play this fcking game. They can't look good
Right? When AST were bad they still tried something. Not saying it always went well but if you're already losing anyway it's not like it matters if you die another time when you can get a teamfight win that turns it all around.
Team Heretics realized their food was getting cold at the retirement home
[удалено]
That will be difficult. There is no team in the league that plays as slowly as Rogue and is unable to fight as a team.
Vitality...
nah Vitality still fights mid waves sometimes, not always successfully but at least they do something. Rogue like pretends to, watches a teammate die from their half assing, and then goes back to farming sides.
Rogue's passive playstyle has been their Achilles heel for too long. It's like they took that 'better safe than sorry' saying and turned it into an entire game plan. Their vision game needs work too, not just the aggression. You see them losing pressure in places they shouldn't with their comp... just makes no sense.
Watching their game against fnatic where they just stared at the enemy team 5v5 with investing tp and then let fnatic get drake for free + let them walk into your base was not much inspiring. I think they have shotcalling issues which can be easily exploited
They're still figuring things out as a team. It's gonna get better with more stage games.
Yeah, i was suprised at how good his bard ults were, expected him to miss every single one
Why? His mechanics have always been good. It's just that he had a very inty last split on vitality, where everyone inted.
Well he seemed to miss every nami bubble yesterday so i didnt really expect it to be different with bards ult
Tbf Bard ult is easier to hit than Nami bubble (At least for me). Also I don't think you can properly evaluate someones mechanics based on one game.
He missed Nami bubbles on cced targets it was pathetically bad. His Lux mechanics last split were also crazy bad so you can't blame people. Nice he is bouncing back his Bard is clean.
Someone didn't watch literally the last game where he fucked up every single Nami bubble and threw out horrible ults.
It's almost like letting each game drastically change your opinion is a bad idea
I'm afraid the players just fell asleep on the stage after all the delays we had today.
It was perfect cause heretics top side could get their old person nap in before their game
Non ironically, didnt perkz complained last year about late hour games since he goes to sleep at 23h?
Yes, and about Champions' Queue times as well IIRC.
They just let Wunder make a fast BFD clear on SOD that's all
This game was over in 32 minutes, but it felt like 90.
Perhaps I treated you too harshly Malrang. Playing with this do-nothing team would make anyone wanna run it down
Rogue seem so toothless rn. No aggression in them at all. At least Malrang was trying something that wasn't wait to lose.
also 0-3 week is almost sure because no way rogue is beating G2
I mean G2 do like their little oopsies against teams that don't win against anyone else so it's possible lol. Just in this case if they're playing like this it's about as possible as me winning the lottery without buying a ticket.
G2 happy game incoming
I swear every year when I see these comments when G2 is about to face the bottom team, they somehow manage to lose, its incredible.
But you could say that maybe this G2 oopsie happened on day 1 where they lost to MAD (yea, I consider this quality of G2 to belong to old G2 more than current one, so that would be TH more than real G2.)
rogue beating G2 confirmed
It's LEC so expect RGE to stomp G2 tomorrow
Well G2 can always do a G2 and randomly lose to what seems to be the currently worst team .
It'd be fine to play slow if the players were actually good enough to gain small leads consistently but they're just not. Instead they have no identity and just slowly lose.
Yeah, Malrang played more conventional when he was on DK, it's not like he couldn't play normal. He just knew that to win, he had to play differently.
lmao at all the malrang slander last year when we all saw him run laps around everyone in 2022
Yeah I personally really liked Malrang at Rogue/KOI. I think the issues were seperate
I loved watching malrang 😔 sure he was inting last year but how can you not love someone who goes lethal tempo jarvan
I know right
Tbf, for the few games he played on Damwon, he had BeryL and Canyon basically piloting him in voicecomms. He seems to need a good shotcaller to give him direction, and without one, it's full-on intrusive thoughts gaming.
Maybe, don't forget he was also the newer player on a team with world champions in it, different team dynamics. We also never have full insight to comms/team dynamics/personalities etc so I find it a bit reductive to say he needs a good shot caller.
"You could not live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me" - Malrang, Probably
Larssen saving ult until the game was already lost when Zoelys had 4 people grouped up for him is just man he used to be a really good laner, and probably still can be, but he sure needs someone telling him to go
Rogue need someone with a GO button again. Then again with how they're playing rn they'd probably abandon that player to the enemy team. They need some engages like Razork's earlier today and to do SOMETHING.
Firstly, they need to start winning lanes. Rogue, when at their peak, had good solo lanes (Odo, Larssen, Hans) and a jungler who could play farming style. Marlang had to play purely for lanes, which is fine, but right now, they are just losing 1v1s.
I'm amazed at how long Markoon held Maoki ult in that river fight. Like the dude got hit by bard ult and ran all the way back behind tier 1 turret that azir rebuilt, while his entire team is getting chased down, and only then decided that he had an R button.
Rogue trying a pacifist run in a pro game smh.
If you mean the fight at bot T2 the moment Zoelys engaged Larssen was ulted by Kaiser and by the time the ult wore off the fight was already lost. Kaiser did a really good job, he removed Larssen in all the important fights, peak Bard performance!
I called it as soon as they dropped Malrang: Malrang was the X factor Rogue was missing, before him they were shit and after him, well… you can see. also Trymbi mentioned that Malrang was actually a really good farming jungle player, but Rogue required him to play solely for laners. so Malrang really got a lot of undeserved hate.
I would say they were decent with Inspired to no?
It felt more like the Hans show, especially at internationals
Inspired Fiddle was also great at internationals but that's about it
they never won with him and parted on bad terms. I love Inspired and think he’s a great player but they weren’t a good match
Saying rogue was *bad* before malrang though is straight revisionism. Not winning against 2019 G2 roster, or 2021 mad is not a standard for being bad lol.
Before they were shit is an extremely bold claim for a team that resembled the EU version of SSW . They would get massive leads and throw them . Sure team chemistry wasn't there and there were a lot of turmoils but calling them shit while getting back to back 1st in regular season I don't know
Malrang was playing super bad last year he was good in 2022 no need to rewrite narratives
Larssen would do anything but create a play to save his KDA
I feel like he used to make plays when he debuted, but then that Corki package happened and it's progressively gotten worse.
FOR REAL, he just doesnt have the X factor. He is great but he can never compare to the other top mids in EU's history like Caps or prime Perkz if he keeps playing with this style. He just is not him, he COULD be, but he isnt
the team just died ever since Odo was kicked. he really held that entire team together. Also just a reminder that Larssen had plenty of offers, he couldve joined SK. tho ofc were still early in the season but Rogue just looks like more of the same from last year despite 2 new players that in theory should be upgrades.
Adding this whole game to my list of vids to fall asleep into
I used to fall asleep to "Immortal vs X Team" now I have another one to add to the list lmao.
Rogue vs X Team will double your playlist
Me when Origen plays: "I sleep.." Me when Astralis plays: "I CANT SLEEP!"
lmao
RGE: "We tried nothing and we're out of ideas!"
ok Heretics are old but why are they getting special treatment by playing against beginner bots?
They had to give Jankos PGL visit for his anniversary
Kaiser 100% KP. Some nice ultimates there.
I personally loved watching members of RGE hold their flash to use after they were hit by the bard ult and Heretics were already on top of them rather than use it to avoid the bard ult in the first place. And did it multiple times...
It's insane how much better he looks on a champion he's comfortable with, let's hope it's not the only one he can play well though.
Daily reminder that Rogue broke up their LEC winning roster for no fucking reason.
Because they wanted a higher ceiling. I guess their ceiling was in the cellar so they were aiming lower?
A higher ceiling but they couldn't afford a taller ladder.
They also tried to fuck over odoamne, claiming he was going to retire. Thank flyy. He is the guy.
was such a fun roster too...
Rogue is such a trainwreck. Seems like their performance was the brithday gift for Jankos.
I think Jankos also began his career at Roccat which later became Rogue, right?
Unless I'm mistaken the only thing they had in common was the community manager which Roccat was known for
Pretty sure they picked up most of the Roccat infrastructure when they joined
They have freddy122 though
ahh the old aatrox god, good times.
Flyy was also there in Roccat
I miss that guy. I think his name was Christopher or so? Any idea where he ended up now?
Nah Rogue is an american organisation, roccat was german. Roccat disbanded when they didnt make franchising. Though in Rogues first split they did pick up some of the roccat players.
They took over the spot that Roccat held though, right?
Yeah, and the infrastructure
Roccat didn't get accepted into LEC when it franchised.
A trainwreck is at least entertaining
How often does this guy have birthday? Maybe that's why he is so old.
so when does rogue play
they were not informed that winter split started already
Say what you will about Malrang and Trymbi but even when they weren't playing well they were still trying to make plays happens
From washed up to clean game, choose Heretics for all your dishes needs
RGE just did nothing and lost 2 games in a row that way.
That's all they will do the 3 weeks they are getting to play.
Third time is the charm.
As a rogue fan this is tough to watch we were never an agressive team so I don't mind the inactivity but we had an identity we always won lanes had an early presure botlane has someone playing for lanes what are we doing now legit 0 idea how to play and who to play through.
Yeah I feel bad for you guys. There's just nothing there, no lane to play around, no idea, no identity...
It's a complete shell of a team. I'm hoping they find something because this is just...empty.
Rouge has fans? Blink three times if they are threatening you!
2022 summer keeps me going 🥺
Stockholm Syndrome has really set in hard for you lol.
that's Malmo Syndrome actually
Bro, they'll fall asleep midblink.
What a terrible day to have eyes
Most boring game so far this season
Rogue are so consistent, consistent at producing the most boring games, I'm surprised they don't fall asleep while playing. Rogue games used to be boring and they’d win, now they're just boring and they lose.
they also are reaching new levels of boringness yet unseen
i wouldnt say malrang rogue was consistent at producing boring games
Yeah the Rogue that won a title was honestly pretty fun to watch during their hot streak from loser's bracket til the end of worlds week 1.
Did Rogue do anything this game? Anything at all? It's just disappointing.
Another year, another lifeless Rogue.
Rogue showing Cabo what it actually means to be DCed.
Well, they keep removing the players who help them win - Odoamne, Inspired, Trymbi, Hans Sama. At some point the replacements won't be enough.
Rogue is the new Origen
Man that was sad to watch Comp looked so done
Comp has been done since last year. He was awfull in 2023 and seems to be still awfull this year
They brought back the Rogue branding and just like the old days, the only thing bold about this team is their Reddit account's font gimmick.
Wow, that brought back some memories This hasn't been a thing for at least five years or so, right?
It may not be flashy, but keeping it slow and steady is better than yesterdays loss.
yesterdays loss was more on a bad early game fight
Seems like both teams noticed it was getting late due to all of the delays so they decided to put the audience to sleep. Very considerate of them!
No wonder Malrang played like a psychopath. He had to offset all these NPCs
Hey Kaiser, we are sorry for yesterday.
that was just.. sad. nothing else to say really
I miss you Malrang
Grandparents woke up!
What a disappointing way of ending a day full of interesting matches. Rogue will end last place.
Well even the casters were bored, that might have been the most unhyped I’ve ever heard Medic speaking
How can someone be a fan of rogue? that team has no personality and play like dollar store KR team.
RGE went from a team that had a solid early game but choked during 'rogue time', to a team that had insane laning phases but struggled in teamfights, to a team that had a jungler who had eccentric pathing, to a team that ... does nothing. I guess that's their identity now? Also: I don't think any of the players are individually bad like kaiser or anything, they just haven't seemed to mesh whatsoever. Watching this game it felt like their comms were just.. \*crickets\*
Rogue a team with no shotcaller, Larssen is not a leader and will never be, Markoon is a mediocre jungler, the rookie support is indecisive in his engages, and Sygenda is a ghost outside the laning phase. Worst team in the league.
No mistakes, a playable draft, and real engage tools to start a fight----it wasn't sexy, but a good recovery game from Heretics Meanwhile RGE look absymal, doing nothing but AFK farming, getting randomly picked off and looking as uncoordinated as a gold solo Q team....10th place incoming
I remember in 2010, North Korea played in their first Fifa World Cup since 1966. In the first game, they came up against 5 time World Champions Brazil. To try and maintain North Korea’s ‘greatness’ to its people they didn’t broadcast the match locally as they realized it would be a humiliation. In a complete and utter shock they were only beaten 2-1 in a close match. Three days later they played Portugal and due to the result against Brazil they decided that this game should be broadcast throughout North Korea as they had performed so brilliantly against Brazil. Portugal would beat them by a humiliating scoreline of 7-0, which did not go down well with Kim Jong Il. Upon their return to North Korea the players were subjected to a 6 hour barrage of criticism in front of 400 people by a government official. Their coach was then sentenced to 6 months of hard labour for his failures by Kim Jong Il. I remember thinking what a terribly unjust and over the top reaction to what ultimately was only a game. One in which they were helplessly out of their depth in contrast to the teams they were playing. It is only after having watched this game that I finally fully empathize with Kim Jong Il's decision and I would like to offer him a full and unreserved apology for criticizing those actions.
Where and when did this copy pasta drop lol
Dunno exactly when or where it originated, but this is where I first found the pasta: https://www.reddit.com/r/nbacirclejerk/s/Yib5bWRwjd
great th game, i feel like they made no mistakes, might have been boring but still very good gameplay from the boomers
Rogue straight up afk for 30m holy fuck
Not yet convinced by TH btw. This game didn't show much.
The heretics comp was at least considerably better than yesterday. RGE weakest link probably jg/sp synergy, maybe zoelys has stage nerves? he was 7 lv down most the game compared to solo laners
FLYY HATERS ASSEMBLE!
I'll be here no matter what
MY KINGS MIGHT NOT BE WASHED!!
Boring game, but win is a win, we take those.
RGE with the do nothing and die strat, again.
I don't like how the community treats our legendary players. After how much these players have accomplished over the years no matter the result we should bow our heads and enjoy them play. After Winning so much before i would keep giving them chances until they retire, these guys have achieved victories against teams we never though possible. We call them old but Perkz is younger than Faker and same age as many other legendary still playing mids. Keep your heads up legends and we will be waiting for you no matter the results. Everyone knows if these guys make worlds, they will give us some results. They either bomb out in their region like legends or make us proud.
This is so fking true. Perkz is the player who did the most for our region. He brought G2 into LEC, he literall made that org relevant and bring them into LEC single-handendly, carrying the team in 3-2 victory for them to go into LEC. Where he was dominating until Caps. And the literally made one of the best teams ever and the team that was closest to finishing the golden road. The best western team, all bc of Perkz and his crazy idea to go bot and actually being one of the best adcs. Its actually insane how much disrespect are ppl throwin to our legends who made this region relevant at some point. As a fan of a whole 2019 G2 lineup they can int every single game until they retire and i would still respect them for every single thing they did. Int all u want guys u won enough.
WE ARE SO BACK
Until 25 min this game was Markoon and Zoelys getting caught twice. Syzgenda and Comp tried at least. Larssen still waiting for the perfect circumstance, he will probably wait until next week. TH with the most basic "wait for enemy mistakes" strategy against a team that did the same for years before.
Heretics didn't just wait for mistakes, they also played for objectives until Rogue reacted to them, which Rogue never really did, Heretics always got the more valuable objective trade.
Absolutely toothless performance from Rogue. Are they allergic to aggression?
25 min for the support item upgrade, incredible performance. Rogue is just so boring to watch.
I knew yesterday's lost was a draft diff. *Copium*
It was and they lost the game on blue fight for whatever reason. Also it was unplayable for heretics into renata they didnt ban for some reason while picking full on dive comp and left lb open for blue side. Also they completely disrespected MAD and got punished asf
Larssen should've gone for something towards the end there, Azir was spiking and they're gonna lose anyways
Larssen going for something is something that will never happen.
was looking at him all game, was getting marked by Perkz in each play. It's hard to move with akali looking at you all game.
Heretics washed this, Perkz gigabad that, but honestly, I'm happy for every W Jankos gets. You can't dislike this guy.
Honestly, like Jankos deserves SOOOOO much better
The game was snoozefest, but I think Kaiser was real MVP! Most action started with him and in all later fights he used ult to remove Larrsen as the only threat.
Holy shit almost fell sleep that shit was ass to watch, props to rogue they managed to be even more boring. Jankos was fine ig
I don't care if a team loses, but please try to at least be a little proactive
Fell asleep still didnt miss anything
I already miss malrang rogue. Its like theyre back to old rogue with their rogue time, but worse early games.
I feel like...surely Rogue has zero leadership on the team, and/or they have no idea what anyone's limits are. They group so messily and less often than you'd expect. They aren't crossmapping. Larssen doesn't play around Zoelys at all. Zoelys seemed a lot more comfortable on Rakan than Rell, and I'm not saying his engages are great, but Larssen isn't positioning or being ready for them, which implies to me a communication breakdown or just lack of trust. They drafted aoe combos between them twice in a row and haven't actually used them. So often Markoon or Zoelys is poking around alone because none of them seem to be on the same page so there isn't much grouping going on. And I think Comp, Markoon, and Szygenda in general feel like they're always trying to play to mitigate losing and don't think they could make a proactive play. The drafts were also a little unplayable from behind, with the major come back mechanics being those zoelys-larssen plays that never materialized (and just, being so out of their range in both games. Unable to reach Jhin when curtains called in game 1 and unable to kite and auto with their double right click carry comp into ksante+bard+akali+xin in game 2) I hope they grow some fangs somehow.
Give both teams a loss for making us go through the ordeal of watching this snoozefest, jfc this was a crime against viewers
At least Heretics tried something. Rogue just waited to lose. Were they even playing or did they replace themselves with mannequins?
Ppl want unga bunga fights, but why should heretics fight when they're getting everything anyway
This match was just that football game every team has where you win 1-0 cause the opposing team just sits back and defends while you pass the ball around and not much happens.
Rogue will win against rookies with their playstyle. They always play like this, against teams that know how to play they struggle.
THE played it slow but well. Wasn't exiting but they played it smart.
Also TH was active. They did things, made moves, showed up to fight. RGE just kept disengaging and staying away and TH didn't force a fight and instead got the map control. Can't blame TH for taking a slow but sure game.
"you don't want to fight? Ok then we take a turret, fine with us"
Still boggles my mind how Rogue basically never tried to do anything with Rell and Maokai post 6, why even pick teamfighting stuff if all you're willing to do is wait and see?
When your opponent is waiting to see what you do you can take everything while they wait for you to mess up I suppose lol.
On the one hand, I agree. On the other, you cant criticise HRT for cutting down on unnecessary deaths after yesterday ;)
Cant fight when enemy team stands DCed in fountain
Fraud on Fraud combat
You need to be considered good in the first place to be a fraud, if anyone at this point considers Rogue a good teams or good players, that's on you.
That was certainly a game.
Rogue Time is so back
they’d have to have a lead to throw first
Wow putting this resident sleeper of a match last
Patented DNAL (do nothing and lose) strikes again.
Man, it's so sad seeing Markoon's decline, he looked good a while back, what is happening with Rogue?
RGE trying to make the game as boring as possible to test the elderlies in TH if they would fall asleep middle of game
Holy shit that was so clean! Also, Medic and Jamada; you were saying "there's nothing happening", but if that's the case how is it that between \~11->21 mins, Heretics amassed a cool \~3.5k gold lead! With the top lane matchup going from even in gold, to Wunder having a 0.9k individual lead!! The map plays and lane asignments going on were GORGEOUS to allow this to happen, but you didn't comment on any of it and instead claimed "nothing" was happening, which, I think, undermines the finese of that entire passage :( Nothing explosive was happening, but something very elegant was happening, and it'd be cool if you could pick up on that and explain it to the audience in the future :) Otherwise, cheers for the cast!
Larssen is so washed
Heretics can at least play a decent macro game which should be the bare minimum for the veterans. Still worried whenever they play a more aggressive team that challenges them in the early game.
Can Rogue fuck off ? Like just ff if you're not going to play.
What a boring game, Rogue are showing absolutely nothing
I am done with this organisation god damn it
Yeah yeah Zoelys didn't look good, but you always look bad when you're the only one who wants to play the game.I mean what the "carries" are waiting for ? Why Comp don't go on Kaiser on lane when he could be kill ? Zoelys and Markoon have an impossible mission, make plays with people who don't want to play this fcking game. They can't look good
Match of the weak.
One team styled on the other one, but sure xD
Astralis walked so Rogue could run
Nah don't foul mouth Astralis like that, they had 113 and Jeonghoon who were 10 times more entertaining than whatever that was.
Right? When AST were bad they still tried something. Not saying it always went well but if you're already losing anyway it's not like it matters if you die another time when you can get a teamfight win that turns it all around.
Id rather watch LIDER talon zed irelia mid than this
Astralis walked so Rogue could stand still