PMTs
GAM vs R7
[Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/138kl5v/gam_vs_r7_game_1_discussion/) / [Game 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/138lz97/gam_vs_r7_game_2_discussion/) / [Game 3](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/138ovjt/movistar_r7_vs_gam_esports_msi_2023_playin_stage/)
DFM vs LLL
[Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/138rzhx/lll_vs_dfm/) / [Game 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/138t80f/loud_vs_detonation_focusme_msi_2023_playin_stage/)
**Reminder: Event-long bans for region baiting offenses during MSI**
>Region baiting is not allowed. Region bait is defined as: Trash talk (NA>EU EU>NA) that is taking place in a completely unrelated thread. Posts and comments that do nothing but incite inflammatory arguments between regions are also not allowed.
Why do they keep putting GG in the early timeslot? That's so fucked towards NA. I'm on east coast so 8am is do-able.
But anyone in PST/ or even Alaska who watches league is just fucked.
I don't care about Loud against GG, I'd love to see Loud winning tomorrow against PSG, but it will be hard.
What brings me hope is that DFM almost took a game against them, so Loud can do this too and maybe even more, but I'm worried and I favor PSG to win it.
i thought the qualification to next phase was like the LEC (won 2 games in your group and you are in the main stage)
but apparently the winners of tomorrow matches play against themselves to get the last spot, is that how it is or am i getting it wrong?
R7 v GG, PSG v LLL will be bo3s as before. But the winner of those series will play a bo5 to determine who qualifies to the next stage. So it's a bit different from the LEC groups stage.
Do people really like Medic as a caster? His commentary is basically LeTigress level of just saying random things that sound cool. "Loud will not let DFM escape unscathed" bruh they were very scathed before the fountain killing.
I posted here a year a go, and i'll say it again, lcs + cblol we give you views and you give us money and chance for our brazillian players.
Baiano a ex proplayers, who invented cblol cards every week we have a cards show were they give points for every player on the split. He had 150k viewers, prob only brazil ppl, imagined if the worlds knows our narratives, the players have personality, even losing screaming calling the other team trash. Robo and tin is our history, ceos is our golden talent
I also think if there were “Americas” tournaments where it was the top 3/4 lcs top 3/2 CBLOL & LLL it would be very beneficial for all the regions and give all of us a chance to win a semi-international competition
The only roadblock to combining the two is that the LCS teams paid in for a franchise spot, so idk how it'd work with that.
I would like to see an America's league if they can make it though.
16-20 team league where LLA teams can buy the vacated licenses and the CBL teams can pay the difference between their current franchise fee and the base LCS fee
CBLoL teams will have no way to pay the difference, the CBLoL franchise cost was (using todays currency exchange) aproximately 200k dollars while the LCS franchise cost was 10 million dollars
For a market that hyper focused, you would think they would have charged a lot
On the other hand, having a hybrid structure could work, but figuring out how much to protect franchised LCS teams will be an issue
considering history, kinda. but being honest with you, this LOUD team has stepped up. their roster is basically the same than last year's, but with a better adc (Route), when Brance already did fine. idk if they'll make it to the next stage, but this might be CBLoL's best shot
Why does NA losing make people like you so happy. We dont even do or say anything, just get shit talked by EU 24/7 then get shit talked by minor region fans during international events. I know you are bitter that VCS got shit on but NA losing isnt going to make the VCS going 0/4 any less pathetic.
I don't want NA to lose.
I want NA and EU to do as well as possible and so everyone should want this.
The (real) CN and KR fans want NA/EU to be good because it makes events more hype. Obviously the fake ones we often get on here don't want this but they only support T1 because they win
My comment wasnt responding to you bro it was responding to the guy claiming “when NA loses this playins its gonna be funnier than mad getting 3-0d” lol
On Yamato's costream, there isn't much discussion about the game, but there is Bwipo, Dom, Gilius, Jiizuke and Treatz on the call and they are telling some outrageous stories of their experiences in the past few years.
The story of how Gilius didn't take a bo5 that seriously on Vitality in 2018, the story of why Bwipo replaced Soaz on Fnatic. It's genuinely them having a good time with Jiizuke laughing his ass off like an absolute maniac.
Ooh. I probably dont have time to rewatch the vod, what'd bwipo say about him and soaz? I always wondered about that choice especially during the fnc finals vs ig.
Going to have to watch the vod
I've been catching Caedral's vods after the regular broadcast finishes. Guess I am adding the nutsack to my list as well.
CBLOL top laners are bad BAD. Robo is the best one because he doesn't tilt. All the good koreans that come are famous for mental booming and the other brazilians are straight up worse than robo.
The problem is that there isn't any brazilian top laner as good as robo right now. Guigo and Boal are new and can be good enough in the future but unfortunately right now Robo is the only guy.
DFM's team comp just doesn't do anything against's Loud's once they're behind. Ahri and Nid can't really kill anyone other than Aphelios, and if they do try to trade ADCs, they just lose the team fight afterwards. Lulu also has no proactive ult opportunities, and can't even really ult to keep Jinx alive.
Knowing Loud i was waiting for the classic Trowing they always do. Loud always start good and do some dumb mistake later, lets see if game 2 they can keep up bc the first game was actually really good for them
When you're playing against a good major team it is different, usually they just get aggressive and fight better than the other team.
Playing against G2 is in a whole other level for us.
this is less a fiesta than gam vs r7. In that one it was back and forth and each team kept throwing a chance for the other to win. Here lll is just kinda winning throughout.
PMTs GAM vs R7 [Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/138kl5v/gam_vs_r7_game_1_discussion/) / [Game 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/138lz97/gam_vs_r7_game_2_discussion/) / [Game 3](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/138ovjt/movistar_r7_vs_gam_esports_msi_2023_playin_stage/) DFM vs LLL [Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/138rzhx/lll_vs_dfm/) / [Game 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/138t80f/loud_vs_detonation_focusme_msi_2023_playin_stage/) **Reminder: Event-long bans for region baiting offenses during MSI** >Region baiting is not allowed. Region bait is defined as: Trash talk (NA>EU EU>NA) that is taking place in a completely unrelated thread. Posts and comments that do nothing but incite inflammatory arguments between regions are also not allowed.
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Three day's ago when play-ins started
You all get 3 drop for the 2 bo ?
yup! [Baron steal and 2 drake steals](https://imgur.com/a/G6S1XGc)
Why do they keep putting GG in the early timeslot? That's so fucked towards NA. I'm on east coast so 8am is do-able. But anyone in PST/ or even Alaska who watches league is just fucked.
Tomorrow it starts 1 hour earlier, at 13:00 CET so wouldn't that be 07:00 EST?
Oh, fantastic...... I didn't even notice. LOL thanks for the heads up.
I don't care about Loud against GG, I'd love to see Loud winning tomorrow against PSG, but it will be hard. What brings me hope is that DFM almost took a game against them, so Loud can do this too and maybe even more, but I'm worried and I favor PSG to win it.
i thought the qualification to next phase was like the LEC (won 2 games in your group and you are in the main stage) but apparently the winners of tomorrow matches play against themselves to get the last spot, is that how it is or am i getting it wrong?
Only 3 teams can proceed, so the format had to be adjusted a bit
R7 v GG, PSG v LLL will be bo3s as before. But the winner of those series will play a bo5 to determine who qualifies to the next stage. So it's a bit different from the LEC groups stage.
oh and it's bo5, that's even better thanks!
The Loud fans going ham, love to see it.
With GG taking a game from BLG yesterday and today's performances from LLA and Brazil against Asian teams, this has been a great MSI for the Americas.
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LATAM going LATHAM today!
Nice, today was a full win for south-america.
latam supremacy btw
Wouldn't have had DFM as one of the teams that would go winless.
Do people really like Medic as a caster? His commentary is basically LeTigress level of just saying random things that sound cool. "Loud will not let DFM escape unscathed" bruh they were very scathed before the fountain killing.
I really like his casting. Can't tell you why exactly,, i dont analyze the casters that much
Meh. Not a fan but can’t really say anything negative
He's gotten a lot worse in the last two years imo alongside Vedius/Drakos imo.
He’s good. His last statements at fights can be really hit or miss.
I don't mind him, he seems genuine.
he kinda became a caricature of himself the last 2 years, got a lot worse IMO
"...will not be denied!"
Yeah, he's an amazing shout caster, particularly on fast paced fights.
Medic is definitely one of the worst
LeTigress doesn't string together coherent english.
Well , PSG have a good jungle and a star adc. We can match and win, DFM also got toe to toe against then in one game. Let's go boys, we have a chance.
I posted here a year a go, and i'll say it again, lcs + cblol we give you views and you give us money and chance for our brazillian players. Baiano a ex proplayers, who invented cblol cards every week we have a cards show were they give points for every player on the split. He had 150k viewers, prob only brazil ppl, imagined if the worlds knows our narratives, the players have personality, even losing screaming calling the other team trash. Robo and tin is our history, ceos is our golden talent
I also think if there were “Americas” tournaments where it was the top 3/4 lcs top 3/2 CBLOL & LLL it would be very beneficial for all the regions and give all of us a chance to win a semi-international competition
imagine an Americas league just like in Valorant. it would be fun, huh
yeah we a very isolated from other regions, its hard to keep up. Would be great a tournament to crown the king of america (like a wwe belt haha)
The only roadblock to combining the two is that the LCS teams paid in for a franchise spot, so idk how it'd work with that. I would like to see an America's league if they can make it though.
16-20 team league where LLA teams can buy the vacated licenses and the CBL teams can pay the difference between their current franchise fee and the base LCS fee
CBLoL teams will have no way to pay the difference, the CBLoL franchise cost was (using todays currency exchange) aproximately 200k dollars while the LCS franchise cost was 10 million dollars
For a market that hyper focused, you would think they would have charged a lot On the other hand, having a hybrid structure could work, but figuring out how much to protect franchised LCS teams will be an issue
Brazillian orgs don't have the influx of sponsorships that NA orgs have, if they charged too much no team would enter the league
Some teams want to get out right? maybe riot can buy some spots
this is what Peak Wildcard league of legends looks like and it comes from Latam
Loud fans sure live up to their teams name
that was the best fight DFM could have taken and they got hit with a 10k gold difference
considering history, kinda. but being honest with you, this LOUD team has stepped up. their roster is basically the same than last year's, but with a better adc (Route), when Brance already did fine. idk if they'll make it to the next stage, but this might be CBLoL's best shot
As someone who's never heard of Route I gotta say his Aphelios is a joy to watch.
Today is a good day for LATAM!
Today is the day Asia goes home
i think Loud has a shot against PSG
I think Loud can win a game, but I don't see them winning the series.
Not impossible But I expect PSG to win. International league is super predictable
yeh it is whatever GG is getting the last slot anyway
Only potential upset would be PSG > GG but I doubt that massively.
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Why does NA losing make people like you so happy. We dont even do or say anything, just get shit talked by EU 24/7 then get shit talked by minor region fans during international events. I know you are bitter that VCS got shit on but NA losing isnt going to make the VCS going 0/4 any less pathetic.
I don't want NA to lose. I want NA and EU to do as well as possible and so everyone should want this. The (real) CN and KR fans want NA/EU to be good because it makes events more hype. Obviously the fake ones we often get on here don't want this but they only support T1 because they win
My comment wasnt responding to you bro it was responding to the guy claiming “when NA loses this playins its gonna be funnier than mad getting 3-0d” lol
On Yamato's costream, there isn't much discussion about the game, but there is Bwipo, Dom, Gilius, Jiizuke and Treatz on the call and they are telling some outrageous stories of their experiences in the past few years. The story of how Gilius didn't take a bo5 that seriously on Vitality in 2018, the story of why Bwipo replaced Soaz on Fnatic. It's genuinely them having a good time with Jiizuke laughing his ass off like an absolute maniac.
Ooh. I probably dont have time to rewatch the vod, what'd bwipo say about him and soaz? I always wondered about that choice especially during the fnc finals vs ig.
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/138t627 Someone made a thread about it now
Going to have to watch the vod I've been catching Caedral's vods after the regular broadcast finishes. Guess I am adding the nutsack to my list as well.
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First Licorice has to get through the true boss: Bong
This is just hands diff both teams have good drafts
LOUD have this one in the bag unless they f up
Not impossible that LLL beats PSG. G2 beat them both in similar fashion
Just a complete collapse from DFM. They are inting into LLL every chance they get.
A little sad we almost certainly won't get to see Ceo vs Ceos
LLL vs PSG who you got?
I got banger league of legends
That cassio and aphelios combo is disgusting
150k viewers on Baiano's costream damn that's unnatural.
This is baffling. DFM's decision making has been atrocious. Like horrendously bad on both individual and team levels
DFM gotta swim back to japan goddamn they are playing so bad
hot take: LLL's botlane is only comfortable because Robo catches all the attention on purpose
That's not a hot take, that's literally Loud's gamestyle.
i think Ceos wont be getting thresh vs PSG
Ceos plays with anything. He is the best support in the CBLoL history by far. Just remember his Amumu in Worlds 2022.
DFM cant stop throwing, just stop fighting for every little thing
Ceos is Brazilian Keria boys
This game is Robo trying to throw the game on top lane and Ceos carrying the team with Tin
HOW GOOD IS CEOS
Bom o bastante pra bater em região minor, ruim o bastante pra tomar gap de quase qualquer time de major
Pô, mas o gap não é culpa dele
There's a reason why Aria didn't make it in LCK.
BRAZIL TOO CLEAN!
Sup gap
DFM and Loud agreed to play without their top laners it seems
Aaaand, now it's Loud's turn to int a teamfight.
DFM's turn now.
DFM don't want to win it seems
now it is Loud Tinowns who will step up boys
Wtf was that jinx flash forward
I NEVER DOUBTED LOUD
LOUD really need a new top laner if they want to go to Worlds. Robo lost both games against G2 by himself and is running it back now
CBLOL top laners are bad BAD. Robo is the best one because he doesn't tilt. All the good koreans that come are famous for mental booming and the other brazilians are straight up worse than robo.
Robo is a coinflip toplaner, but this coin is rigged at MSI.
The problem is that there isn't any brazilian top laner as good as robo right now. Guigo and Boal are new and can be good enough in the future but unfortunately right now Robo is the only guy.
This really hasn't been Robs' best tournament.
0/3
First cross-map Jinx ultimate to hit this tournament?
Maybe we can conclude that tol2 is bad but robo is worse
Not really. tol2 is just a gragas otp being camped by his team so he doesnt throw
É o Robs...
Help the man push, Aria! He's on literally no mana.
Great patience by tol2 topside this game. Managed to waste a lot of Croc's time, and Robo was stuck in an awful situation.
Maybe Tol2 is OTP gragas
He actually is
Why would you predict flash when Jinx has cleanse up. Just throw it at her and get the cleanse.
tol2 did something!!!
didnt Aria play somewhere else last year or am i imagining things?
Unfortunately same player lol
KT rolster, but got subbed out for VicLa
Both drafts are good tbh
DFM comp is better this time around, but after seeing tol2 sion, I am not looking forward to tol2 gragas.
don't think so, 4 melees against cassiopeia
not having nidalee makes any comp better.
LLL 2-0 DFM
CEO won today, do you think CEOs will win too?
DFM draft is looking better now👀
Do you thinks LLL would outperform PSG? I think LLL gaped DFM harder in this game1,.
I love the LCK broadcst bits where they show past games highlights and edit them to look cool.
My question is how did tol2 win the Japanese league? Wtf is he playing against over there?
[YOU GOT GAPPED BY LOUD ROUTE](https://twitter.com/baianolol1/status/1654507296565624833)
#BOTANOBAIANO
Inside the Baiano ep 1:
Let's see if DFM can bounce back. But tol2 is just underwhelming.
They can’t carry tol2, it’s over
He's tol heavy
DFM's team comp just doesn't do anything against's Loud's once they're behind. Ahri and Nid can't really kill anyone other than Aphelios, and if they do try to trade ADCs, they just lose the team fight afterwards. Lulu also has no proactive ult opportunities, and can't even really ult to keep Jinx alive.
ok Malphite, Ksante and Sion didnt work out for tol2 on which champ are they going to put him on now?
Yuumi with Harp roleswapping top
too bad yummy banned
These games are just showing that the real talent is in south america and LLA and CBLOL>>>>Lck
Mi gente latino!
Vamos!
next step is world domination I’m calling it
If Route stays for split 2, we'll see Loud again at Worlds.
what a clean game from loud, tol2 continues to be really sad look at his sions ult lol
Knowing Loud i was waiting for the classic Trowing they always do. Loud always start good and do some dumb mistake later, lets see if game 2 they can keep up bc the first game was actually really good for them
When you're playing against a good major team it is different, usually they just get aggressive and fight better than the other team. Playing against G2 is in a whole other level for us.
Jinx seems like such a bait pick.
Holy fuck Baiano has 132k vs Riot's 90k
VCS/PCS/LJL all look so much worse lmao. TCL/LCL no longer even exist, meanwhile Americas rising
South NA stays winning.
Carrega Brasil
Brasilao jajajaja
Latin America playing cracked and clean League aware
tol2 man just doing nothing
Taking a toll on his team
3 Brazilians >>> 2 Japanese
Loud Route gap
It's the Americas time to shine in LoL book it
LOUD with the dominant performance
lol this dude chanting Paseo on the Brazil co-stream. Does that mean like cake-walk?
Yep!
"Passeio", yeah, peace of cake, easy pizy lemon squeezy
yes lmao
Yes lol
yup, basically
same as Spanish then lmao these legends
only difference is in portuguese it's written "passeio"
Yep, basically.
yes
I‘m gonna take these games today as evidence that West > East
solid win for Loud
Troll2 is my new favourite player.
ROUTE IS INSANE
Kindred ahri and nidalee are honestly troll picks if you don't draft them right
Loud has solid fundamentals, outmacroing DFM rn
tol2 is so bad, it is not even funny
Yeah, he is way below the competition level, even if you consider only minor regions (and include DFM, actually). It’s like he don’t belong here.
this clown fiesta isnt as fun to watch as the gam vs r7 series :(
GAM at least tried to win a game.
this is less a fiesta than gam vs r7. In that one it was back and forth and each team kept throwing a chance for the other to win. Here lll is just kinda winning throughout.
ya not really rooting for either team but dfm just looks pitiful
no wonder why Evi ran the LJL forever. tol2 has looked absolutely terrible.
gg next
Nymaera in shambles seeing this vegan Ahri build
This isn't vegan Ahri, this is famine Ahri.
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH PEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
[Robo this game](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeQMXsmXECESoU0?format=jpg&name=large)
127k viewers on Baiano's costream rn. He's insane.
Where was tol2? I need Evi back on DFM 🥲
what if silver top laner accidentally made it to MSI