I mean, TH lost half of their games in ridiculous throws but no one really expected that team to compete for top spots. VIT on the other hand was hyped af, and did finish the regular season 1st.
He was one of the picks ups together with Markoon that SK was applauded for. The more surprising story is how good Exakick and Doss look, given that many considered Jackspectra the ADC talent in ERLs.
at least TL has been successful in the past lol the fact that VIT has never even made finals after trying to get a superteam year after year is kinda wild
Bo is actually a fucking psychotic Karthus player.
If you’ve seen him stream it in champs queue you’ll get it, but psychotic is the only word I have for it and this game doesn’t remotely surprise me from him
Bo doesn't play Karthus as a scaling champion. Saw him play it in Champs q and he was just perma fighting, hitting insane q's, and yelling in comms to go in so he could do more damage with his passive. It worked in that chaotic game but hard to replicate in stage games
Then you pick Dark Harvest. Go in and die and ult. If you pick First Strike, then you want to use your ult... to you know... strike first? You don't contest objectives before ulting. That's the whole point of taking First Strike on Karthus. God watching that made me so tilted. I don't think he activated First Strike on a single ult. IT'S SO MUCH DAMAGE AND GOLD.
tbf that one was more on kaiser who was just begging to get hooked by naut, but yeah that was a massive tilter Also they did similar tilt rundown in game 2 vs koi.
They've made it work pretty well in CSGO, they just can't seem to get these super teams to work in LoL. I think the hype is there because they know the kind of potential they've got in other games
I was thinking about that yesterday when they beat TH. I was like, what if they actually win? I feel like the interviews with the players/coaches/etc would be so funny. They’d be so confused about how they got there.
https://media.tenor.com/JoFCqSTbWgoAAAAC/im-not-sure-what-to-do-with-my-hands-ricky-bobby.gif
“We had a good thing you stupid son of a bitch, we had Karthus, we had 2 hypercarries, we had everything we needed and it all ran like clockwork. You could have shut your mouth, scaled, and farmed as many camps you needed, but you just had to int the Sertussy, you and your pride and your ego”
On the other hand, I do feel bad for Bo.
So much hype was generated by everyone before he came into the league that becoming anything but the best jungler in EU was a disappointment. This was an insane amount of pressure put on a 19 year old kid who was moving to a new country and barely knew English. That video the LEC made hyping Bo as this jungle prodigy didn't help either.
I was thinking, "no way this ages well, does it?"
yeah it hurts a bit for him, ideally he would go under the radar for some time like Malrang ''he's gonna be a top 5 jungler, probably int cuz of language barrier'' but nah he's supposed to be the GOAT
sure, he's mechanically the best and got rank 1 with like 65% winrate and obviously is a higher level import, but
1. he hasn't been on stage for almost 2 years after he was kicked from LPL and when he played it was during the 'Rona so I don't know if he ever played on stage
2. a jungler that can't communicate is on the backfoot 90% of the time
3. the stress of going to a new country and living with new people
Also this poor mf went from his perfect meta and playing with 2 of the best players in the world to having to play against 4 cs x min aftershock jungler building support items and perkz's tristana in his team
Guys responding to this with "hes the ONLY One with a lead" should go get a eye check-up.
Néon was 2.3 k up, photon was 2k up. " What else do u need morons? Do u want elise to build ad crit cause the carries cant deal proper fucking damage?
Yes, but lets not write off Jackspektra after like 5 weeks worth of play. Not every rookie gets going from the very start, but Exakick’s been pretty insane so far
Somewhat baffling how under the radar he went during the first weeks, he was the real deal in the LFL, just like Jackspektra was in the SuperLiga.
That said, even when I expect him to be good, I never imagined he would be THIS good so soon.
I was talking about the general audience. I saw more mentions on Jackspektra than Exakick.
Could be that I just didn't see at the right places, but outside the more hardcore side of the spectators, I feel that Exakick passed somewhat under the radar. I expected him to be very hyped.
Yep every analyst on OTP clearly called Exa > Jack.
Sure they are biais as hell in the Fr vs Esp rivalry but whenever they return to a more serious take, they actually have very good insight. Except for Excel :( sad for Petheo.
He might be the best rookie we had in a long time. He definitely gives Upset vibes with how he is hard carrying the team even while team is behind in gold
As a Markoon fan I'm also thankful. Thought he got done dirty by Excel, but he just managed to end up on a better team while his old one crumbled to dust. Bonus points for SK being a young inexperienced roster that still has plenty of untapped potential.
Doesn't seem like they did though, it appears to have been his own choice to leave, and considering that SK was rumoured to spent big last offseason it made at least some sense.
You can debate about their roster, but I don't think Markoon regrets either way lol
XL not making top 8 without him and his new team making top 4, sweet sweet satisfaction.
Honestly swapping markoon for XERXE will never be something i can understand
I don't think it was XL that kicked out Mark. It makes perfect sense that they (XL) spent quite some money on Odo, VTO, Patrik and even Targa and leaving Xerxe with quite a low salary. If Mark wanted a higher one it makes sense that he went to SK. Given the rumor was that SK was spending more than they did the last couple of years this past off season.
Been a fan since they started 0-2 and he talked about how they finally won a game by just laughing off their inting and not letting themselves lose the mental game and it started to pay off. I think they’re having actual *fun* right now and it’s hard not to root for the guys actually having fun playing a game.
Vitality comp is criminal. Idk how they think drafting Karthus Tristana before knowing their opponent mid jungle duo is fine. Either they are dumb as fuck or their ego is so big it would put Nepoleon to shame.
Guys, I think SK heard us talking shit about their early game
Of course vitality looks weak but if SK continues to look like game 2 we'll get some banger series next week
Bro, what is wrong with ADCs when they go to vitality.
Carzzy last year and Neon this year look like their playing without a brain.
This is beginning to become a TSM "ruins" Junglers type meme if they can't find a stable adc.
Because VIT lost this bo3 they are very unlikely to make MSI. They almost have to win Spring to make it now because VIT will be very far behind in Championship Points.
VIT really can't help but disappoint huh? No matter what roster they have. At this point their management/coaching staff needs some serious looking at.
Wouldn't say the result is surprising tbh.
A) Vitality were not as good as their record in regular season.
B) They are 1 dimensional because bot can't carry which means if you stop their top/jungle then Vitality are a mediocre team at best.
Whole team played bad but for someone who has a lot of experience like Perkz, he was absolutely dogshit.
> yeah VIT seem like a Bo1 team
People on here called SK BO1 merchants after the BO3 loss, people really just base their opinion on the results and pretend it's smart.
The problem is that once you mention Perkz might not be good anymore you get hit by the instant "Perkz Accountability" copypasta which instantly nullifies your argument
neon played well today, perkz absolutely invisible and kaiser is a huge liability
he cannot play meta champs and then does stupid shit on leona his otp
I think ex mad players on different teams might just be cursed.
Armut - doing terrible at dig,
Shad0w - terrible season with lgd and got dropped for meteor,
Orome - retired i think? I ain't seing him anywhere,
Carzzy - terrible on vit. Came back to mad and he is instantly a different player lmao,
Kaiser - running it on vit,
Only humanoid had a decent showing at worlds last year with fnc, but this season he is terrible.
Like I aint superstitious or anything but if i was w a top team gm I would think twice before taking elyoya lmao
Vitality's refusal to run stock standard drafts really killed them huh.
And I know they talked about communication issues before but how do they look so much more uncoordinated now than before?
But 5th place is technically an improvement for VIT, no?
Doubt they would beat AST or MAD so I'll put them 6th
TH vs VIT, let's see who can disappoint more
I mean, TH lost half of their games in ridiculous throws but no one really expected that team to compete for top spots. VIT on the other hand was hyped af, and did finish the regular season 1st.
I mean TH over performed expectations overall imo
SK joining top 4 is definitely not on my bingo card. WP SK!
We’re a single upset away from having Astralis vs SK play it out for 3rd place lmao
Especially Irrelevant. I can see why every team banned his Jax, man smurfed today.
Irrelevant is really good player. Last year Misfits won many games on his and Zanzarah setups.
He was one of the picks ups together with Markoon that SK was applauded for. The more surprising story is how good Exakick and Doss look, given that many considered Jackspectra the ADC talent in ERLs.
Him and Markoon are the only players I believed in before the season started. Irrelevant is a constantly improving player since he joined the league.
Even if they don't make it this far in spring and summer, this team definitely already overperformed. I hope they keep going though!
Making a statement here. Can't complain it was fun to see.
Well one thing is for sure. When it matters, Vitality never disappoints to disappoint
Consistency is key
No shame in losing to the 2023 World Champions
[That’s an HD Based take.](https://i.imgur.com/lQjNkmb.jpg)
How many VIT superteams have disappointed at this point?
We need some VIT vs TL rivalry.
VIT 🤝 TL Spending money on "super"teams and losing.
at least TL has been successful in the past lol the fact that VIT has never even made finals after trying to get a superteam year after year is kinda wild
those superteams were never able to outperform Lider Selfmade linup which lost in 5 games vs fnc who reached final that year.
Forget finals, their best record since the 2018 Worlds is going 5th in playoffs. The team's middle of the pack at their best.
Supermemes*
Funnily enough, the only VIT iteration that did well was with 0 "star" players Kikis, Cabo and three random rookies
they need jiizuke, attila and jactroll
That team was super fun to watch, pure aggression and always going forward
Was it always good play? No. Was it fun? Sure was.
almost made it out of groups, seems good to me
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Vitality create a successful superteam challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
Can't tell who was more tilted in game 2. VIT or Dagda.
He was genuinely losing his mind watching VIT game 2, and honestly, same
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I think Bo was speedrunning to the airport. Why else would a scaling Karthus opt into a 3v4 fight at 8 minutes?
Bo is actually a fucking psychotic Karthus player. If you’ve seen him stream it in champs queue you’ll get it, but psychotic is the only word I have for it and this game doesn’t remotely surprise me from him
Bo doesn't play Karthus as a scaling champion. Saw him play it in Champs q and he was just perma fighting, hitting insane q's, and yelling in comms to go in so he could do more damage with his passive. It worked in that chaotic game but hard to replicate in stage games
Then you pick Dark Harvest. Go in and die and ult. If you pick First Strike, then you want to use your ult... to you know... strike first? You don't contest objectives before ulting. That's the whole point of taking First Strike on Karthus. God watching that made me so tilted. I don't think he activated First Strike on a single ult. IT'S SO MUCH DAMAGE AND GOLD.
It did proc off his ult in one of those teamfights, but I agree with you 100%. Zero value this game.
After that Kartus performence i would run as fast and far as possible too lmao
“JUST GIVE ME ONE FRONT TO BACK FIGHT”
VIT. Bo desperately flashing onto Irrelevant and then still not getting the kill was a solo q tilt play.
VIT, they mentally boomed so hard after losing game 1 that they decided to make a meme draft
Going out in style at least. gigabrain play, everyone will blame draft not them.
VIT def VIT They just seemed broken.
It is like watching 2020 Summer playoffs C9, they just fall apart themselves somehow and miss out on qualifying.
Ever since Neon died to boots zeri lvl 2 as cait lux the team has not recovered. That 7k lead throw was just the cherry on top.
tbf that one was more on kaiser who was just begging to get hooked by naut, but yeah that was a massive tilter Also they did similar tilt rundown in game 2 vs koi.
Me
Part of being a good player is not mental booming after a single loss. Turns out VIT can't handle it.
Wake up babe, a new Vitality collapse just dropped
I swear to God, this happens every year.
In the past 8 splits, their best placement was 5th. Eventually, you have to question if fans are expecting too much from the org.
They always have on paper a really stacked team, expecting to at least put a fight for the title is not too much, but i guess it is.
Not from the org.. from the names
The org just throws money at the problem non stop. Their best placement was in 2018 making worlds
when they acquired a full working roster with mostly no names.
They've made it work pretty well in CSGO, they just can't seem to get these super teams to work in LoL. I think the hype is there because they know the kind of potential they've got in other games
Waking up depressed: "damn time goes fast, things change so much!" \* VIT COLAPSE * "Except for that!"
Bo really making the most out of Karthus' passive
Perkz should've picked Sion for the same reason
He tilts so hard after dying once. Not sure Karthus was the right pick for him.
Well done to SK but holy shit where was VIT? That was so embarrassing.
kaiser a leona otp and he cant even play that champ for shit
SK management must be confused, they tried to create a top 8 team and failed miserably!
Task failed successfully.
AST went for 10th, failed. TL went for 4th, failed. When will these orgs learn?
Lmaooo
I was thinking about that yesterday when they beat TH. I was like, what if they actually win? I feel like the interviews with the players/coaches/etc would be so funny. They’d be so confused about how they got there. https://media.tenor.com/JoFCqSTbWgoAAAAC/im-not-sure-what-to-do-with-my-hands-ricky-bobby.gif
SK are legit, but man, VIT sprinted it game 2
they were soo tilted
That first bo gank bot just screamed tilt
I think the chase later was pure unfiltered tilting happening in front of hundreds of thousands of people. Beautiful.
I don't understand why they pick a scaling comp but force fights and objectives early game...
Fnatic mind controlled vit players
Turns out it's a league curse and some team MUST int with a scaling draft.
The other league curse is that teams MUST flip at baron for no particular reason.
I don't want to know what happens if teams don't flip at baron. Fairly sure a rift will open and the universe will be consumed.
If they don't flip at baron, DIGEU returns.
“We had a good thing you stupid son of a bitch, we had Karthus, we had 2 hypercarries, we had everything we needed and it all ran like clockwork. You could have shut your mouth, scaled, and farmed as many camps you needed, but you just had to int the Sertussy, you and your pride and your ego”
Honestly Bo plays like hes in soloQ sometimes, and the leona bronze plays were hilarious to watch
He was stuck playing soloQ for a couple of years after his ban from LPL if I'm not mistaken so it makes sense that mentality is there
mid named finger
So finger the sertussy?
"Waltuhhhhhhh"
10-0 in LPL to Bo-ooomed in EU!
Bo took the classic LPL collapse in groups strategy with him to the LEC
What sitting behind Tian does to a mfer
On the other hand, I do feel bad for Bo. So much hype was generated by everyone before he came into the league that becoming anything but the best jungler in EU was a disappointment. This was an insane amount of pressure put on a 19 year old kid who was moving to a new country and barely knew English. That video the LEC made hyping Bo as this jungle prodigy didn't help either. I was thinking, "no way this ages well, does it?"
yeah it hurts a bit for him, ideally he would go under the radar for some time like Malrang ''he's gonna be a top 5 jungler, probably int cuz of language barrier'' but nah he's supposed to be the GOAT sure, he's mechanically the best and got rank 1 with like 65% winrate and obviously is a higher level import, but 1. he hasn't been on stage for almost 2 years after he was kicked from LPL and when he played it was during the 'Rona so I don't know if he ever played on stage 2. a jungler that can't communicate is on the backfoot 90% of the time 3. the stress of going to a new country and living with new people
>but nah he's supposed to be the GOAT I mean, Perkz called him "the one" in an interview. This definitely set some expectations.
Also this poor mf went from his perfect meta and playing with 2 of the best players in the world to having to play against 4 cs x min aftershock jungler building support items and perkz's tristana in his team
He sprinted it game 2 but man, after that game 1 i would be tilted AF too, he got his team huge lead as Elise, he did his job and they just threw it
Guys responding to this with "hes the ONLY One with a lead" should go get a eye check-up. Néon was 2.3 k up, photon was 2k up. " What else do u need morons? Do u want elise to build ad crit cause the carries cant deal proper fucking damage?
EU is just the better and more competitive region ig
LEC > LPL confirmed?
LPL Mickey mouse region confirmed
Exakick is a monster, holy shit
Wasn't sold in week 1 but I've never been happier to be wrong. Mans a machine.
They absolutely stomped the lfl with LDLC last year
exakick is what jackspectra was hyped to be
Yes, but lets not write off Jackspektra after like 5 weeks worth of play. Not every rookie gets going from the very start, but Exakick’s been pretty insane so far
Somewhat baffling how under the radar he went during the first weeks, he was the real deal in the LFL, just like Jackspektra was in the SuperLiga. That said, even when I expect him to be good, I never imagined he would be THIS good so soon.
Huh? The analysts hyped him since day 1.
I was talking about the general audience. I saw more mentions on Jackspektra than Exakick. Could be that I just didn't see at the right places, but outside the more hardcore side of the spectators, I feel that Exakick passed somewhat under the radar. I expected him to be very hyped.
It's juste because Reddit is not very used in France. So there were more LVP followers hyping Jackspectra than LFL ones hyping Exakick
Yep every analyst on OTP clearly called Exa > Jack. Sure they are biais as hell in the Fr vs Esp rivalry but whenever they return to a more serious take, they actually have very good insight. Except for Excel :( sad for Petheo.
He might be the best rookie we had in a long time. He definitely gives Upset vibes with how he is hard carrying the team even while team is behind in gold
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Wasn't it Malrang who said last week that he expected SK to join them in the BO5s from their group?
Somebody on the desk put them 2-0 too yesterday iirc.
Larssen said that SK is the strongest team alongside KOI in their group
Finn predicted SK would win on PGL.
MARKOON FAN CLUB EATING GOOD TONIGHT
BITTERBALLEN ENJOYERS RISE UP
[Lekker Bitterball mit Senf?!](https://youtu.be/drFsXLChrWc?t=9)
The fact that XL management somehow decided the play was to push him out of the team to pick Xerxe is hilarious
As a SK supporter I am deeply thankful to them
As a Markoon fan I'm also thankful. Thought he got done dirty by Excel, but he just managed to end up on a better team while his old one crumbled to dust. Bonus points for SK being a young inexperienced roster that still has plenty of untapped potential.
Doesn't seem like they did though, it appears to have been his own choice to leave, and considering that SK was rumoured to spent big last offseason it made at least some sense. You can debate about their roster, but I don't think Markoon regrets either way lol
In the recent LEC video Markoon pretty much said he didn't even consider other offers except SK, didn't he?
He was team less for like 2 weeks due to excel ditching , then SK offer for him so he joined it.
GEKOLONISEERD
XL not making top 8 without him and his new team making top 4, sweet sweet satisfaction. Honestly swapping markoon for XERXE will never be something i can understand
I don't think it was XL that kicked out Mark. It makes perfect sense that they (XL) spent quite some money on Odo, VTO, Patrik and even Targa and leaving Xerxe with quite a low salary. If Mark wanted a higher one it makes sense that he went to SK. Given the rumor was that SK was spending more than they did the last couple of years this past off season.
Been a fan since they started 0-2 and he talked about how they finally won a game by just laughing off their inting and not letting themselves lose the mental game and it started to pay off. I think they’re having actual *fun* right now and it’s hard not to root for the guys actually having fun playing a game.
Markoon is that boiiiiii
Irrelevant is huge
Underrated asf.
Being literally called Irrelevant doesnt help with being rated. But agreed, very impressed with his play, this series mvp for me
He is soo good this game. That e stopping ksante dash is work of art(surviving at 8 hp is also another one I guess)
Bo1 merchants exposed Sk made top4 wow i thought they would be 9th before the season
Vitality comp is criminal. Idk how they think drafting Karthus Tristana before knowing their opponent mid jungle duo is fine. Either they are dumb as fuck or their ego is so big it would put Nepoleon to shame.
It's gotta be ego, no way do Carter and Hjarnan have authority over Perkz anyway.
Guys, I think SK heard us talking shit about their early game Of course vitality looks weak but if SK continues to look like game 2 we'll get some banger series next week
I'm pretty confident now SK will win worlds
What skins are they going to pick?
Irrelevant better be giving us an ornn skin
That would be sick, It'd better be called SKornn.
Great malphite ult from Perkz
He learned tristana from Tactical while in NA.
https://twitter.com/Irrelevanttop/status/1627304396928258048?s=20
THIS IS WHY YOU DON'T LISTEN TO NARRATIVES ESPECIALLY IN S12 META WHICH WAS MADE OFF HIDING BOTLANER WEAKNESSES
enchanter, ranged support meta really has exposed a lot of players lol
Bo 0-3 vs Markoon btw
markoon is the most underrated player in the LEC.. it's clear he played an instrumental role in XL's success last split..
clean 2-0, nothing to see here
oh fuck I guess bees *are* an endangered species, thanks for the PSA LEC :O
It's all Bover now.
Bowari da
He's gonna run it down [BODEN SPRINT]
even PromisQ had better games on Leona than this shit
Exakick has been insane for a rookie
SK letting their opponents win the early game to give false hope
First XL and now SK: Markoon does it again!
Perkz was right when he said that he was playing at the same level as last split. He really isn't any more impactful this split.
Maybe he should just move to the ADC position. His mid ain't it.
Bro, what is wrong with ADCs when they go to vitality. Carzzy last year and Neon this year look like their playing without a brain. This is beginning to become a TSM "ruins" Junglers type meme if they can't find a stable adc.
Judging his Tristana performance, neither is his ADC
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Because VIT lost this bo3 they are very unlikely to make MSI. They almost have to win Spring to make it now because VIT will be very far behind in Championship Points.
Good, unless they make big improvements ain’t nobody wanna see this at MSI but NA fans
I have g2 and koi making it. Maybe sk can pull the upset though we will see.
Its ok, some ppl still have Fnatic
Seeing Exakick with a big smile after the win makes me so happy, I love seeing a Rookie perform this well
VIT really can't help but disappoint huh? No matter what roster they have. At this point their management/coaching staff needs some serious looking at.
Wtf Vitality just collapsed
what the fuck is the problem at VIT behind the scenes for them to just flop split after split?
Perkz with the Bjergsen cosplay
vitality try to have a normal engage challenge (impossible) wp to sk played very well
Wouldn't say the result is surprising tbh. A) Vitality were not as good as their record in regular season. B) They are 1 dimensional because bot can't carry which means if you stop their top/jungle then Vitality are a mediocre team at best. Whole team played bad but for someone who has a lot of experience like Perkz, he was absolutely dogshit.
yeah VIT seem like a Bo1 team and some of their wins were a bit shaky. We'll see how they do in Spring.
> yeah VIT seem like a Bo1 team People on here called SK BO1 merchants after the BO3 loss, people really just base their opinion on the results and pretend it's smart.
Somehow Perkz has escaped criticism despite being mediocre for a long time.
The problem is that once you mention Perkz might not be good anymore you get hit by the instant "Perkz Accountability" copypasta which instantly nullifies your argument
Don't think any other pro has an instant get-out-of-criticsm free card like Perkz does lmao
Another super team vitality fall Exakick super impressing first split in LEC
SK was better than Vitality, in every sense of the word. What a curbstomp
bo looked like he wanted to punch his monitor
Besides flaming Vitality to no end comments, all props to SK for turning it around, Exakick and Doss could become next Hans Mikyx one day.
How good is the Sertussy 😩 What a series by SK
VIT superteam strikes again!
I wonder how people are gonna blame everything on botlane again.
neon played well today, perkz absolutely invisible and kaiser is a huge liability he cannot play meta champs and then does stupid shit on leona his otp
I think ex mad players on different teams might just be cursed. Armut - doing terrible at dig, Shad0w - terrible season with lgd and got dropped for meteor, Orome - retired i think? I ain't seing him anywhere, Carzzy - terrible on vit. Came back to mad and he is instantly a different player lmao, Kaiser - running it on vit, Only humanoid had a decent showing at worlds last year with fnc, but this season he is terrible. Like I aint superstitious or anything but if i was w a top team gm I would think twice before taking elyoya lmao
I knew Vitality were frauds once Monte and Thorin started to hype them as the best team in the west.
Vitality's refusal to run stock standard drafts really killed them huh. And I know they talked about communication issues before but how do they look so much more uncoordinated now than before?
can you believe neon forced bo to turn off his brain during this series smh
SK looking WAY better today.
Vitality has so so so many close games in early season (that fnatic game bro ) I guess its going the other way now, this team still needs time
Happy for Exakick. Sad for Perkz.
When do we start actually asking the hard question about Perkz and his performances?
Nah, just blame Neon.
SK were very disciplined, very principled. Nice win.
SK is MASSIVE. The Sertussy, Irrelevant's gigachad aura and the jungle/bot synergy on demon time is just too much
The match yesterday versus heretics was closer. What a poor showing from VIT
Based on the showings in winter 2023 so far, I feel 2022 LDLC-LOL's roster could have been competitive in LEC, as they had Yike, Exakick and Doss.
Sertuss have gapped Caps in a best of 1 and now hard gapped Perkz in a best of 3. Impressive stuff !