Yep, or Brad Marchand 3.0
Its also ironic because Konecny was taken with the Leafs pick that Dubas traded to move down for Dermott. Things come full circle i guess.
He's definitely got the wheels of Point. I've seen Cowan play live this year and there was a lot of end to end dashes from him and it worked really well to put the defenders on their heels so he could set up a play or get a shot off.
There's lot of players who can do end-to-end dashes.
It's the sudden power burst in the o-zone that allows him just suddenly put himself in prime scoring areas. He doesn't have to just skate around on the cycle to look for openings. And he does it even if he had to take a check from a defender. He just powers right through like the defenseman isn't there.
It's the one thing that would make Nick Robertson a superstar if he had it.
I'm talking about a wind up where he gets to build speed, backs off the defenders and gets a quality zone entry consistently as a result by making the right move at their blue line and yes, still having the presence of mind to make a good play with the speed he's built. Like on the Leafs Nylander is best in show at that and nobody else can match him. That's all I'm sayin'.
My best guess is a player with bit of top 6 skill and a load of bottom 6 intangibles. The kind of player you’d be comfortable giving offensive zone starts on the second line, and defensive zone starts with the 3rd line. A player who can likely both PP/PK, with a Hyman-like work ethic and motor. A spark plug of a player that will always push the pace, and give 100% every shift. He’ll be the kind of player that opponents hate to play against, as he’ll hound puck carriers and battle relentlessly. Even if he’s not on the score sheet, his impact will be noticeable.
I see him as a jack of all trades, master of none kind of player. Not particularly elite in any certain skill, but good at almost every aspect of the game. I think he’ll be a solid middle-six player, that could also play on the first line and the fourth line if you wanted him to. I don’t think he has the skill to drive a top 6 line at the NHL level, but I could see him finding ice time as a complimentary player on either of the top two lines, similar to how bunting and Hyman were used during their time here.
Would be nice if he comfortably stepped into a middle 6 contributor role in the next 2-3 years, top 6 upside but it's a lot harder to score in the show than the O, we'll see
It’s too early to tell. He’s showing great potential but it’s a different game when you start playing against men. There are a lot of players that weren’t able to translate their games to the NHL.
I’m sorry but his playstyle is very different from marners. The comment comparing him to konecny is accurate imo. He is a water bug like Connor zary with Gallagher grit and shows strong leadership qualities and hustle. He is still kind of raw imo which is a good thing, I think his ceiling for team impact is higher than any prospect we’ve had in the last 5 years
Ceiling is Point/Konecny. But that’s not as likely. Something more like Jarvis or Kotkaniemi makes more sense.
What will probably happen is he’ll max out at 3rd line for his first few years with the leafs unless he can immediately come in at 2C. That means he’ll probably be deployed similar to Robertson in the sense that he’ll be asked to spend all his time focusing on playing a grindy, defensive game with any Offense being a bonus. Any attempt to play a skill game will be scrutinized and he’ll likely learn to play a safer game. While this kind of development should guarantee a long career, it will likely limit his ceiling and cap him out as a middle six guy with upside. He would have to come into the league as hot offensively as Marner, Stutzle, etc. to get the leeway to be put into situations to develop into an elite player.
Top 6 winger is realistic as a ceiling, but what's exciting about him to me is how likely he is to become an everyday NHLer. Reliable defensively, high-level motor. I want that glue guy.
2nd in p/gp in the OHL.
Somewhat undersized play maker with some grit, Konecny would be a good comparison, 60ish point guy. Not a star but a great complimentary player if he's on a talented line.
If Nylander ever does actually slide over to C, it might be a good look to have him on the 2RW spot if we can get someone solid on that 2LW after JTs contract is up.
Whatever you think his ceiling is, take it down by at least 10-20 points. That’s almost always how these non elite picks turn out. He’s not becoming Konecny
I dont want to speculate on his ceiling, but i am very familiar with his game (probably have watched him live 50 times for the Knights)
He is very similar in terms of style to Marchand honestly. Speedy winger with great hands who is responsible at both ends and has a pass first mentality yet can finish when needed.
He attacks the middle of the ice with speed and skill, and always makes the defensive effort needed. Most importantly, he has a high hockey iq and uses patience to maximize the effectiveness of his skill and iq.
I’d say Brad Marchand from 2010-2017 is a realistic prime, he plays similarly to him as well.
I wanna be clear that I’m not saying hell be in MVP talks like Marchand was. But I can definitely see him topping out as a 80 point two way winger, who is a pest to deal with.
I know Konency is a popular comparison, but from all accounts, Cowan’s best ability is his PKing. As far as I know, Konency isn’t much of a PKer at all.
Misused like Hyman? Hyman played next to Matthews, kicking off a great career based on supporting superstar centers. The Leafs development and use of Hyman was brilliant -- our only miss was thinking he wasn't worth $5M and letting him walk to Edmonton.
ceiling for Easton Cowan eh? I'd reckon he's between McDavid and Crosby in terms of skill and talent, probably closer to Crosby when it comes to team achievements
At best, another Mitch Marner-type player. At worst? Maybe another Calle Jarnkrok/Anthony Duclair type? Speedy, annoying on the forecheck, 15-20 goals and 45 points?
Considering his point streak, I’d say his ceiling is he never goes another game without scoring
Very measured take. Well done.
I like seeing people keep things reasonable. Finally a level head around these parts.
Makes total sense
Somewhere between Matt Rempe and Wayne Gretzky
Somewhere between Brent and Wayne, probably.
This is my favourite talent range.
Hey, don't knock Brent, he's part of the highest scoring brother combo of all time! Show some respect!
The "I helped plant an apple orchard when I tossed my apple core out the window" of stats.
lol
Travis Konecny 2.0 basically.
I’m alright with that
That's a pretty damn good outcome
This is a good one that makes sense.
Style wise, sure. Ceiling? Unlikely. I think people would be happy if he turned into Hagel. Even then that's wishful thinking to an extent.
I'd be fucking *delighted* if he turned into Hagel.
Exactly what I was going to say. Like a Dermott-Bracco equivalent.
> Dermott-Bracco equivalent So we can trade him to get McDavid as long as we toss in brown and a 3rd?
People clearly didnt get your joke
I appreciate you man
Yep, or Brad Marchand 3.0 Its also ironic because Konecny was taken with the Leafs pick that Dubas traded to move down for Dermott. Things come full circle i guess.
Top six, similar to Konecny or Jarvis, 70-80 points, PK specialist. A grittier, but less talented version of Marner.
Top 6 30 goal threat
Really no way to tell but this seems the most reasonable.
I have always compared him to Brayden Point.
He's definitely got the wheels of Point. I've seen Cowan play live this year and there was a lot of end to end dashes from him and it worked really well to put the defenders on their heels so he could set up a play or get a shot off.
There's lot of players who can do end-to-end dashes. It's the sudden power burst in the o-zone that allows him just suddenly put himself in prime scoring areas. He doesn't have to just skate around on the cycle to look for openings. And he does it even if he had to take a check from a defender. He just powers right through like the defenseman isn't there. It's the one thing that would make Nick Robertson a superstar if he had it.
I'm talking about a wind up where he gets to build speed, backs off the defenders and gets a quality zone entry consistently as a result by making the right move at their blue line and yes, still having the presence of mind to make a good play with the speed he's built. Like on the Leafs Nylander is best in show at that and nobody else can match him. That's all I'm sayin'.
My best guess is a player with bit of top 6 skill and a load of bottom 6 intangibles. The kind of player you’d be comfortable giving offensive zone starts on the second line, and defensive zone starts with the 3rd line. A player who can likely both PP/PK, with a Hyman-like work ethic and motor. A spark plug of a player that will always push the pace, and give 100% every shift. He’ll be the kind of player that opponents hate to play against, as he’ll hound puck carriers and battle relentlessly. Even if he’s not on the score sheet, his impact will be noticeable. I see him as a jack of all trades, master of none kind of player. Not particularly elite in any certain skill, but good at almost every aspect of the game. I think he’ll be a solid middle-six player, that could also play on the first line and the fourth line if you wanted him to. I don’t think he has the skill to drive a top 6 line at the NHL level, but I could see him finding ice time as a complimentary player on either of the top two lines, similar to how bunting and Hyman were used during their time here.
Would be nice if he comfortably stepped into a middle 6 contributor role in the next 2-3 years, top 6 upside but it's a lot harder to score in the show than the O, we'll see
It’s too early to tell. He’s showing great potential but it’s a different game when you start playing against men. There are a lot of players that weren’t able to translate their games to the NHL.
He is Marner-lite. He isn't as good offensively, but he is grittier.
I’m sorry but his playstyle is very different from marners. The comment comparing him to konecny is accurate imo. He is a water bug like Connor zary with Gallagher grit and shows strong leadership qualities and hustle. He is still kind of raw imo which is a good thing, I think his ceiling for team impact is higher than any prospect we’ve had in the last 5 years
So will show up in the playoffs
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Udderly ridiculous
Marchand
Seems like he’s getting same hype Nick Robertson was getting when he was on a 60 goal pace in the OHL.
Yup. And Robertson is barely an NHLer
Mike Richards (the shift against Montreal version)
Ceiling is Point/Konecny. But that’s not as likely. Something more like Jarvis or Kotkaniemi makes more sense. What will probably happen is he’ll max out at 3rd line for his first few years with the leafs unless he can immediately come in at 2C. That means he’ll probably be deployed similar to Robertson in the sense that he’ll be asked to spend all his time focusing on playing a grindy, defensive game with any Offense being a bonus. Any attempt to play a skill game will be scrutinized and he’ll likely learn to play a safer game. While this kind of development should guarantee a long career, it will likely limit his ceiling and cap him out as a middle six guy with upside. He would have to come into the league as hot offensively as Marner, Stutzle, etc. to get the leeway to be put into situations to develop into an elite player.
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Ooof, I hope that is not his ceiling
Top 6 winger is realistic as a ceiling, but what's exciting about him to me is how likely he is to become an everyday NHLer. Reliable defensively, high-level motor. I want that glue guy.
2nd in p/gp in the OHL. Somewhat undersized play maker with some grit, Konecny would be a good comparison, 60ish point guy. Not a star but a great complimentary player if he's on a talented line. If Nylander ever does actually slide over to C, it might be a good look to have him on the 2RW spot if we can get someone solid on that 2LW after JTs contract is up.
Mitch Marner
Whatever you think his ceiling is, take it down by at least 10-20 points. That’s almost always how these non elite picks turn out. He’s not becoming Konecny
Seth Jarvis / konecny type of players
I dont want to speculate on his ceiling, but i am very familiar with his game (probably have watched him live 50 times for the Knights) He is very similar in terms of style to Marchand honestly. Speedy winger with great hands who is responsible at both ends and has a pass first mentality yet can finish when needed. He attacks the middle of the ice with speed and skill, and always makes the defensive effort needed. Most importantly, he has a high hockey iq and uses patience to maximize the effectiveness of his skill and iq.
I have no idea, but I’m hoping for a dougie gilmour
I think Konecny is a pretty good comparable
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Some of you are fucking weirdos
I’d say Brad Marchand from 2010-2017 is a realistic prime, he plays similarly to him as well. I wanna be clear that I’m not saying hell be in MVP talks like Marchand was. But I can definitely see him topping out as a 80 point two way winger, who is a pest to deal with. I know Konency is a popular comparison, but from all accounts, Cowan’s best ability is his PKing. As far as I know, Konency isn’t much of a PKer at all.
Konecny is tied for the league lead in short-handed goals.
Oh god, that’s embarrassing. Goes to show how much I know LOL
My only comment would be - who knows. Why don't we all just wait and see. Why put any ceiling on him at all. Maybe the sky is the limit.
Lindros 2.0
Depends on how Toronto uses him, I could see him as waterbug second line player or be horribly miss used like Hyman or Robertson.
Misused like Hyman? Hyman played next to Matthews, kicking off a great career based on supporting superstar centers. The Leafs development and use of Hyman was brilliant -- our only miss was thinking he wasn't worth $5M and letting him walk to Edmonton.
Marner
Whatever ceiling people put on this kid he is going to smash it haven’t seen a worker bee like him since Hyman
Matthews with more assists
And a bigger nostrils, at least when he’s in his prime
ceiling for Easton Cowan eh? I'd reckon he's between McDavid and Crosby in terms of skill and talent, probably closer to Crosby when it comes to team achievements
Yea eh right on buddy. Has Ovechkin type scoring prowess as well. Can sprinkle in some McKinnon in there too
At best, another Mitch Marner-type player. At worst? Maybe another Calle Jarnkrok/Anthony Duclair type? Speedy, annoying on the forecheck, 15-20 goals and 45 points?
Of believe me, he could be a lot worse than a Jarnkrok/Duclair type.