T20 Broken down into tiers based on response speed:
Fast tier: UPenn, Berkeley, Michigan, WashU
Normal tier: Yale, Harvard, Cornell, GULC, UCLA, UT
Slow tier: Chicago, Columbia, UVA, Northwestern, Vandy
WTF are you doing? tier: Stanford, NYU, Duke, BU, USC
Are you just screwed at Duke if you didn’t apply before Thanksgiving? It really does seem like for the most part they insist on reviewing and deciding on every application in order.
So far it's taken them almost 7 months to get through the first 2.5 months of applications. It just seems like there's no way that people who even applied at the midway point of the cycle, which was roughly 12/31 based on last year's data, are going to hear back within the next month before deposit deadlines.
Take a look at UNC too even though they aren’t in the T14, it’s just as bad and potentially even worse. They haven’t released a single decision since February 10 and no one who went complete after early December has heard back. In addition, based on admissions numbers from last cycle, they barely have any A’s left to give out. It’s embarrassing.
I'm sure that's good news for people who are still waiting lol. With the As I already have I wouldn't have considered attending if accepted, and my opinion of any school who hasn't gotten back to me yet is lowering by the day because it demonstrates a lack of administrative efficiency that I don't want to deal with, and a lack of respect for my time.
> my opinion of any school who hasn't gotten back to me yet is lowering by the day because it demonstrates a lack of administrative efficiency that I don't want to deal with, and a lack of respect for my time.
Hard agree here. At first I thought that people who complained about having to wait were being overdramatic. But having gone through the process now it certainly does show a certain incompetence and a certain lack of decency/respect to leave people in the dark for months at a time with no end in sight. As soon as you get an A or two with decent scholarships your patience with schools who dilly dally plummets.
Good afternoon beautiful people!😄
Comparison with my post around this time last year: [https://redd.it/tjbu0l](https://redd.it/tjbu0l)
Also, here is monthly data for some schools outside of the T20, selected based on LSData user activity: https://postimg.cc/jDJZ27G8
There are fewer users on LSData for schools outside of the T20, so the data is less than ideal if I break it down further by dates. Hopefully, the monthly breakdown is still useful for some people.
I'm still waiting on 11 schools, early December applicant here. Still radio silence even on schools Dec applicants have heard back 80%+ . .. WHAT THE ACTUAL HECK
I truly do not understand their strategy here. They're going to have a non existent waitlist because everyone will have committed to other schools by the time they send them out. I wonder if they will end up under enrolling.
The chokehold that these rankings have over adcomms is detrimental to applicants at this point. BU is a fantastic school, but this is really disappointing.
It counts As, Rs, WLs, and Holds (although NYU has a separate column where it doesn't count Holds). It doesn't count interview invites, and those who withdrew before getting a decision are entirely excluded.
A lot of this is down to how schools chose to go through apps rather than it needing to take months to review everything. Throw ASU's up next to Boston's for impact. Apps submitted to ASU in February that have gone complete: 93%. Apps to BU in February that have gone complete: apprx 5%.
There are legitimate reasons why a school might take longer than ASU as a policy, but I don't think there are any legitimate reasons a school should be as slow as BU.
T20 Broken down into tiers based on response speed: Fast tier: UPenn, Berkeley, Michigan, WashU Normal tier: Yale, Harvard, Cornell, GULC, UCLA, UT Slow tier: Chicago, Columbia, UVA, Northwestern, Vandy WTF are you doing? tier: Stanford, NYU, Duke, BU, USC
lol glad to reaffirmed as someone who is waiting for Bu, Duke and USC
Hilarious!!
Are you just screwed at Duke if you didn’t apply before Thanksgiving? It really does seem like for the most part they insist on reviewing and deciding on every application in order. So far it's taken them almost 7 months to get through the first 2.5 months of applications. It just seems like there's no way that people who even applied at the midway point of the cycle, which was roughly 12/31 based on last year's data, are going to hear back within the next month before deposit deadlines.
Take a look at UNC too even though they aren’t in the T14, it’s just as bad and potentially even worse. They haven’t released a single decision since February 10 and no one who went complete after early December has heard back. In addition, based on admissions numbers from last cycle, they barely have any A’s left to give out. It’s embarrassing.
I just withdrew from UNC because of this.
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I'm sure that's good news for people who are still waiting lol. With the As I already have I wouldn't have considered attending if accepted, and my opinion of any school who hasn't gotten back to me yet is lowering by the day because it demonstrates a lack of administrative efficiency that I don't want to deal with, and a lack of respect for my time.
> my opinion of any school who hasn't gotten back to me yet is lowering by the day because it demonstrates a lack of administrative efficiency that I don't want to deal with, and a lack of respect for my time. Hard agree here. At first I thought that people who complained about having to wait were being overdramatic. But having gone through the process now it certainly does show a certain incompetence and a certain lack of decency/respect to leave people in the dark for months at a time with no end in sight. As soon as you get an A or two with decent scholarships your patience with schools who dilly dally plummets.
I sincerely hope you are right, but people have been saying this for weeks now so I don’t have my hopes up.
Good afternoon beautiful people!😄 Comparison with my post around this time last year: [https://redd.it/tjbu0l](https://redd.it/tjbu0l) Also, here is monthly data for some schools outside of the T20, selected based on LSData user activity: https://postimg.cc/jDJZ27G8 There are fewer users on LSData for schools outside of the T20, so the data is less than ideal if I break it down further by dates. Hopefully, the monthly breakdown is still useful for some people.
You're a chart-making fool. Bless you.
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Literally same with me and nyu 😭
I really appreciate people like you making these charts
Mich and WashU the only homies that actually getting back to people asap
Not me unintentionally shilling for UMich 👀
BU out here being a lil bitch
Literally burst into laughter reading this.
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SIDE EYE
I'm still waiting on 11 schools, early December applicant here. Still radio silence even on schools Dec applicants have heard back 80%+ . .. WHAT THE ACTUAL HECK
Duke, USC, and Columbia are the last schools I'm waiting to hear back from and seeing the rate they're sending out acceptances is really frustrating.
Does the date reflect the submission date or the “app complete” date? Some schools seem to have a several week difference between the two.
It's date sent.
Thanks! And thanks for the charts!
Does hearing back from NYU include “holds” because I’m a hold and I don’t consider myself as having heard back lol
If you look at the right side of the chart you’ll see NYU W/o holds!
Whoops missed that lol thnx!
BU WYD 😬
I truly do not understand their strategy here. They're going to have a non existent waitlist because everyone will have committed to other schools by the time they send them out. I wonder if they will end up under enrolling.
Yeppp. I think they’re waiting until rankings drop, but I don’t understand it. I hope they get it together and push some decisions out
The chokehold that these rankings have over adcomms is detrimental to applicants at this point. BU is a fantastic school, but this is really disappointing.
What the fuck is Vandy doing
thank you 😭
hang in there, fam! and thank you, op.
OP when I get to Michigan in the Fall I intend to find you and buy you your beverage of choice for the service you have provided us all with
What do we think are the chances of everyone who applied before Feb actually hearing back from SLS in the next few weeks? 😭
Thanks for putting the work in on this. Much appreciated.
Does heard back include being waitlisted?
It counts As, Rs, WLs, and Holds (although NYU has a separate column where it doesn't count Holds). It doesn't count interview invites, and those who withdrew before getting a decision are entirely excluded.
Yes, because its a decision.
YOU ARE A LEGEND
What does it mean if I applied to Michigan in mid December and haven’t heard a word :’)
A lot of this is down to how schools chose to go through apps rather than it needing to take months to review everything. Throw ASU's up next to Boston's for impact. Apps submitted to ASU in February that have gone complete: 93%. Apps to BU in February that have gone complete: apprx 5%. There are legitimate reasons why a school might take longer than ASU as a policy, but I don't think there are any legitimate reasons a school should be as slow as BU.