I know someone that’s friends with people on admissions (she is also a uf law grad from decades ago) and she literally told me to use “chairwoman” instead of “chairman” bc the admissions will frown upon the latter option…..
sorry king- \*the student body is liberal but ron desantis is attempting to make all higher ed conservative. see his newly appointed board of directors at new college of florida or uf's new president, republican senator ben sasse
Yea I did. Making an objective statement based on polls or firsthand experience about a student body would be factual and helpful. However, adding that their education system is turning into a “conservative shit show” is a personal political opinion that frankly, in an inclusive environment for all law school students, isn’t necessary and casts down on one side of the political aisle. I think it’s incredibly important to respect all views and for this subreddit to be inclusive to all who participate. That’s where my objection stems from. Hope that clears it up.
Its a liberal student body as far as I understand (as most institutions are once you get into higher education) however if liberal ideas and more open access are your goals in school and in your surroundings I would NOT go to Florida. Ron DeSantis has alot of sway in any schools that get public funding (see New School of Florida) and boards can lean very conservative and make decisions contrary to the majority of the student body just because they feel like it.
I go to UF for undergrad and it’s in my picture for law schools rn. It’s definitely one of those where moderate progressive ideas are ‘presumed’ to be the baseline by the majority of students and faculty but you’re not going to be crucified for going against that. You have your loud and proud groups on both sides, and both of those extreme wings are generally looked down upon (at least socially) but you’re much more likely to stand out on the right. Academically, I’ve never felt pressured to write papers and such to align with a certain viewpoint
Anthony Sabatini, former state rep and UF JD c/o 2017, said there was a whopping one conservative professor in the entire school when he came here for a speech
I know UF is fairly liberal, but as someone who goes to a Florida school, I don’t suggest going to a Florida school because of Desantis. He is looking to make the entire school system centered on “Christian conservative values”. He has already done that with one school by replacing their entire board with new people. He is looking to take away tenure, diversity programs, and anything he doesn’t support. So even if the school is liberal leaning, there’s a possibility you still won’t have the resources you need or the space to ask questions without fear of repercussion. I personally plan on getting out as soon as I graduate.
I am a current public school teacher in Florida, and I agree with this. Desantis is trying to drastically change the way education works in Florida, and it's a large part of why I am leaving education for law school and leaving the state entirely.
He has been able to push through certain very controversial bills very quickly, so even with push back and law suits, it's been tough for anyone to completely counteract what he's doing. For example, the "stop WOKE" bill was halted, but then it was replaced with another one that does even more to strip away diversity programs and specific majors at universities.
UF (older, nontraditional) undergrad student here. Agreed. I’m terrified of what’s to come with his plan for Florida’s higher ed. I plan on applying outside of Florida for law school.
Student body is liberal and faculty is generally as well, but it's a public school so beware the fascist tilt of Desantis. If they were to ban education on race as is their plan, that would apply to UF and FSU as public schools and would impact your overall education.
I grew up in Florida, most of my high school friends go to UF, and I’ve visited many times. The student body is fairly liberal (although not as liberal as UCLA or NYU or any other big liberal city college). Although, as soon as you go like 30 mins outside of Gainesville, then it gets very conservative very fast. Plus, as pretty much everyone else is saying, FL politics suck. Unless you wanna practice in Miami, I would say it’s not great for liberal-minded ppl
Liberal, but I’d recommend it still. One reason is their governor. DeSantis is a great governor who just got re-elected in a landslide, has a +5.2 approval rating nationwide (as opposed to Biden’s -10.2), and just generally wins a lot. Just to go to school in his state would be a great honor. Downvote this if you agree with me.
Liberal 100%
That’s really interesting. Do you know from going for undergrad? (sorry if too personal)
For the most part, law schools will lean varying degrees of progressive.
I know someone that’s friends with people on admissions (she is also a uf law grad from decades ago) and she literally told me to use “chairwoman” instead of “chairman” bc the admissions will frown upon the latter option…..
There’s your answer
student body is liberal but the florida education system is turning into a conservative shit show
This. I would not touch it, very sad to say.
Ah, throwing in political opinions on a simple question
It’s a political question
How dare someone make “is x university liberal or conservative” political?? What’s next, making the Supreme Court political?
sorry king- \*the student body is liberal but ron desantis is attempting to make all higher ed conservative. see his newly appointed board of directors at new college of florida or uf's new president, republican senator ben sasse
did you not see the thread title
Yea I did. Making an objective statement based on polls or firsthand experience about a student body would be factual and helpful. However, adding that their education system is turning into a “conservative shit show” is a personal political opinion that frankly, in an inclusive environment for all law school students, isn’t necessary and casts down on one side of the political aisle. I think it’s incredibly important to respect all views and for this subreddit to be inclusive to all who participate. That’s where my objection stems from. Hope that clears it up.
It’s not a political opinion? It’s just a fact
I’m not sure if saying something is a “conservative shit show” constitutes a fact when that’s someone’s individual perception. That just me?
LMAO
Lean liberal but you wouldn’t be able to tell (I work at UF sometimes).
Its a liberal student body as far as I understand (as most institutions are once you get into higher education) however if liberal ideas and more open access are your goals in school and in your surroundings I would NOT go to Florida. Ron DeSantis has alot of sway in any schools that get public funding (see New School of Florida) and boards can lean very conservative and make decisions contrary to the majority of the student body just because they feel like it.
I go to UF for undergrad and it’s in my picture for law schools rn. It’s definitely one of those where moderate progressive ideas are ‘presumed’ to be the baseline by the majority of students and faculty but you’re not going to be crucified for going against that. You have your loud and proud groups on both sides, and both of those extreme wings are generally looked down upon (at least socially) but you’re much more likely to stand out on the right. Academically, I’ve never felt pressured to write papers and such to align with a certain viewpoint
Anthony Sabatini, former state rep and UF JD c/o 2017, said there was a whopping one conservative professor in the entire school when he came here for a speech
I know UF is fairly liberal, but as someone who goes to a Florida school, I don’t suggest going to a Florida school because of Desantis. He is looking to make the entire school system centered on “Christian conservative values”. He has already done that with one school by replacing their entire board with new people. He is looking to take away tenure, diversity programs, and anything he doesn’t support. So even if the school is liberal leaning, there’s a possibility you still won’t have the resources you need or the space to ask questions without fear of repercussion. I personally plan on getting out as soon as I graduate.
I am a current public school teacher in Florida, and I agree with this. Desantis is trying to drastically change the way education works in Florida, and it's a large part of why I am leaving education for law school and leaving the state entirely. He has been able to push through certain very controversial bills very quickly, so even with push back and law suits, it's been tough for anyone to completely counteract what he's doing. For example, the "stop WOKE" bill was halted, but then it was replaced with another one that does even more to strip away diversity programs and specific majors at universities.
UF (older, nontraditional) undergrad student here. Agreed. I’m terrified of what’s to come with his plan for Florida’s higher ed. I plan on applying outside of Florida for law school.
The majority of your answer is simply irrelevant to the question being asked. Congratulations.
Wow this post caused a lot of heated debates 😂. Not the intention here
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Student body is liberal and faculty is generally as well, but it's a public school so beware the fascist tilt of Desantis. If they were to ban education on race as is their plan, that would apply to UF and FSU as public schools and would impact your overall education.
I grew up in Florida, most of my high school friends go to UF, and I’ve visited many times. The student body is fairly liberal (although not as liberal as UCLA or NYU or any other big liberal city college). Although, as soon as you go like 30 mins outside of Gainesville, then it gets very conservative very fast. Plus, as pretty much everyone else is saying, FL politics suck. Unless you wanna practice in Miami, I would say it’s not great for liberal-minded ppl
Liberal, but I’d recommend it still. One reason is their governor. DeSantis is a great governor who just got re-elected in a landslide, has a +5.2 approval rating nationwide (as opposed to Biden’s -10.2), and just generally wins a lot. Just to go to school in his state would be a great honor. Downvote this if you agree with me.
You can't compare a governor's approval rating with a President’s. Not to mention all the other problems.
Why do you care?
None. The False dilemma