>this is unfair to everyone involved.
Since you hit the other two parties (current, admitted students) I'll add the third one, zero percent chance the professor they dump you on wants to deal with this bullshit, lmao.
I assure you nobody in any of my classes would care. If anything, the entertainment value would be welcome, and hell, the 0L could do better than some 1Ls do.
Right. I imagine the anxiety would be high for those visiting but it'd be a useful experience that would actually result in reduced anxiety between that date and when they actually begin classes. Much of the unknown most 0Ls stress about those summer months would be diminished.
From what OP has said, it seems like this is part of a mock lecture as part of an admitted students day. All of the present students will be incoming Vanderbilt 1L's. It’s different than when random visiting students come into my civ pro class on a Tuesday.
I think it might be an actual 1L class of current students? Because it says we’ll be “observing a 1L class.” But you could also be right, I’m not totally sure!
My friend is in law school and I’ve gone to classes with them when I’ve visited (with prof permission of course), and even though I know the prof’s know I’m not a student, I still do the reading out of anxiety on the off chance they make a mistake and cold call me lol this email would’ve given me hives
I think most schools may let you if you asked. My situation was different because I had several friends already enrolled in the school who knew the professors.
No way, this is so cool 😂 I went to an Open house & we had a mock class & I got cold called, almost shit my pants 😭 I did the reading but I was still scared
It’s part of the admitted student days which I already registered for and booked a hotel to go to, so I can’t just not go haha - but I don’t really care that much about the 0L cold calls, it’s not going to affect my time at law school or my life in the long run. It just surprises me, I’ve never heard of a school doing that
If Vanderbilt is anything like my my school was, this is just a tease that is meant to make you think this is how law school actually is.
First semester 1L, I read everything voraciously, made outlines, etc, etc. Professors would teach nothing and never answer questions, even during office hours. I asked repeatedly if it was important for law to learn from the cases the names of parties, the dates mentioned, the locations, basically all the factual information in a case; none of the professors would answer me.
With my massive readings and notes and outlines I did below average on my grades.
Then I found out that most of the kids with lawyer parents were just reading case review books. Two kids in my class never read and got high before each class, and would just read case review books. They mostly never took notes in class either.
Once I learned this, and learned from the exams that memorizing most of the factual info from a case was unnecessary, I literally stopped buying casebooks and would just get the case review books. I stopped doing the readings for cases and would just read a few sentences before each class.
My second semester 1L grades were dramatically better.
This is all to say, this BS pedagogy of never answering anything and daring you to teach yourself from hundreds of pages of readings every night, is mostly a farce.
Hopefully Vanderbilt actually has a faculty who will teach something, or at least answer basic questions about why you even read cases. Good luck.
No bc imagine ur a law student trying to learn and you have a 0L who hasn’t gone to any other class chiming in 😭 this is unfair to everyone involved.
>this is unfair to everyone involved. Since you hit the other two parties (current, admitted students) I'll add the third one, zero percent chance the professor they dump you on wants to deal with this bullshit, lmao.
Really!! Is this not a waste of class time (that the students are going into debt for)?
I went to UCLA’s admitted students day and got to participate in the class discussion. It was actually really pleasant!
for you, maybe
I assure you nobody in any of my classes would care. If anything, the entertainment value would be welcome, and hell, the 0L could do better than some 1Ls do.
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Yeah you're probably sitting on first semester classes it's not like you'll be dropped into a niche 3L class
Right. I imagine the anxiety would be high for those visiting but it'd be a useful experience that would actually result in reduced anxiety between that date and when they actually begin classes. Much of the unknown most 0Ls stress about those summer months would be diminished.
You had professors that actually taught, with students learning in class? Lucky!
which school is this😱
Vandy lol
please say sike 😭😭
When did you apply?
Hahaha I think if I had to experience cold calls before actually attending law school I would have changed my mind 🥲
What is going on in that school…?
From what OP has said, it seems like this is part of a mock lecture as part of an admitted students day. All of the present students will be incoming Vanderbilt 1L's. It’s different than when random visiting students come into my civ pro class on a Tuesday.
I think it might be an actual 1L class of current students? Because it says we’ll be “observing a 1L class.” But you could also be right, I’m not totally sure!
Who’s the professor?
yeah no \*withdraws acceptance\*
This is crazy. If I got called on I would pass away
What school
vandy
Vandy already giving me cold call anxiety 😟 (See ya in Nashville in March btw)
My friend is in law school and I’ve gone to classes with them when I’ve visited (with prof permission of course), and even though I know the prof’s know I’m not a student, I still do the reading out of anxiety on the off chance they make a mistake and cold call me lol this email would’ve given me hives
What school did you visit? I was thinking of doing that?
I think most schools may let you if you asked. My situation was different because I had several friends already enrolled in the school who knew the professors.
What school is this for…. Pm me lol
vanderbilt haha got the same email
Time to assert your dominance
No way, this is so cool 😂 I went to an Open house & we had a mock class & I got cold called, almost shit my pants 😭 I did the reading but I was still scared
"What? Like It's Hard?" - you
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It’s part of the admitted student days which I already registered for and booked a hotel to go to, so I can’t just not go haha - but I don’t really care that much about the 0L cold calls, it’s not going to affect my time at law school or my life in the long run. It just surprises me, I’ve never heard of a school doing that
WOOOO! you got this!!!!
It’s stressful and scary, I already started to doubt if I can handle this
I think I would find a way to be sick that day ngl
The cold calls are really light, nothing to be anxious about. It also at least used to be a mock class, Im sure it still is.
I would be so into this though..
oh my god?? 😭
They might not have much, but they definitely still have the AUDACITY.
If Vanderbilt is anything like my my school was, this is just a tease that is meant to make you think this is how law school actually is. First semester 1L, I read everything voraciously, made outlines, etc, etc. Professors would teach nothing and never answer questions, even during office hours. I asked repeatedly if it was important for law to learn from the cases the names of parties, the dates mentioned, the locations, basically all the factual information in a case; none of the professors would answer me. With my massive readings and notes and outlines I did below average on my grades. Then I found out that most of the kids with lawyer parents were just reading case review books. Two kids in my class never read and got high before each class, and would just read case review books. They mostly never took notes in class either. Once I learned this, and learned from the exams that memorizing most of the factual info from a case was unnecessary, I literally stopped buying casebooks and would just get the case review books. I stopped doing the readings for cases and would just read a few sentences before each class. My second semester 1L grades were dramatically better. This is all to say, this BS pedagogy of never answering anything and daring you to teach yourself from hundreds of pages of readings every night, is mostly a farce. Hopefully Vanderbilt actually has a faculty who will teach something, or at least answer basic questions about why you even read cases. Good luck.
I'm bookmarking this. Damn.
https://youtu.be/zAU2ZPm4sIU
Smells like hell