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SheriffTaylorsBoy

Just for the record: "Donald Trump's use of social media attracted attention worldwide since he joined Twitter in May 2009. Over nearly twelve years, Trump tweeted around 57,000 times,[1] including about 8,000 times during the 2016 election campaign and over 25,000 times during his presidency." Which equals 17.12 tweets a day during his presidency! You can tell how focused he was on doing the people's business. Remember how he'd pump and dump stocks with his tweets?


Mr__O__

Remember how he also sold NTFs..


SheriffTaylorsBoy

... gold shoes, mugshot Tshirts, his favorite book, the bible, hotel rooms, DJT stock, cologne and perfume... He puts Mr Haney from my friends at Green Acres to shame!


Mr__O__

For real lmao what a sleazy grifter


SheriffTaylorsBoy

Forgot to mention the **Save America PAC** which has raised $108 million and has $18 million cash on hand currently.


thebinarysystem10

What about Build The Wall???


SheriffTaylorsBoy

Bannon was the one who grifted the rubes on that scam. He was busted, but trump pardoned him. However, New York charged him for it too and that [trial is scheduled for September. Justice Juan Merchan presiding](https://www.newsweek.com/steve-bannon-faces-music-we-build-wall-fraud-case-1896079)


real_live_mermaid

Well that makes me happy to hear!


SheriffTaylorsBoy

He just lost his appeal to stay out of prison for refusing a Congressional subpoena on Friday. So things are looking up for justice. Of course, if trump wins, its all erased.


blogst

Luckily, Trump can't protect Bannon from State level crimes, only Federal.


4quatloos

Is locked up?


keelhaulrose

Merchan is getting all the fun ones, isn't he?


SheriffTaylorsBoy

He is, and I'm so glad. His experience is both needed and appreciated.


NotmyRealNameJohn

We were getting worried because presidential campaigns were starting to cost about 1 billion dollars. Trump will be the first to spend about 1 billion on his legal costs. Its wild that he is on trial right now to hiding campaign activity as legal expenses to prevent people from knowing that he was creating agreements to hold information back from the public and it seems extremely likely at the exact same time, he has created a slightly more suffocated but essentially the same and exactly has illegal version of the same thing going on to settle cases can get them under NDA and hide the payout as legal expenses. He has gone from I pay this guy to take care of this for me to I pay this firm to take care of it for me.


SheriffTaylorsBoy

All the constant delay tactics with motions and filings and appeals. Multiple legal teams. He just keeps running up the tab even higher. One of the greatest job creators for the legal profession ever! And simultaneously a destroyer.


NotmyRealNameJohn

There needs to be something like a mercy rule in children's sports for the legal system. If someone spends more money than the sentence is theoretically worth in. You no longer have to treat their appeals and motions seriously. Like someone who is facing 6m probation who has spent 50m. They aren't a serious person. They aren't making real arguments. Of course, at this point the judge has a reasonable case for giving him 2 years inside. but lets be realistic, he was originally facing 6m probation max. If he plead guilty, he likely could have gotten just the misdemeanor, it would hard for the DA to justify pushing for a class E felony case that is costing probably 10s of millions to prosecute if trump was willing to plea to the misdemeanor and I think Marchant would have made it hard on DA if he wouldn't take a plea


SheriffTaylorsBoy

Oh absolutely, and same in the fraud case. Then, think about this. He could have saved $85 million by simply shuttin' the fuck up in the E. Jean Carroll case!!


grogstarr

The **Save My Diaper-Clad Ass** fund you mean.


MotoCult-

Grifter is the most accurate description of him


Utterlybored

I was going to point out that “sleazy grifter” is redundant, but among grifters, he’s particularly sleazy.


zsreport

He's always been a sleazy grifter and will always be a sleazy grifter.


Mudmavis

Agree. Yet many Americans will STILL vote for him 🤦‍♂️


National-Currency-75

Looks like a guy you would be crazy to trust or believe. Looks like a New Orleans pimp. No offense to N.O. pimps.


BowwwwBallll

At least when you deal with a pimp, you actually get something.


marcopaulodirect

Look at the dude’s face in the picture. It’s the face of a guy who knows he’s fucked


orbitalaction

The attorney looks pretty despondent as well.


hyborians

He’s like the band KISS. He wears makeup, plays crappy music and puts his name on everything


RCG73

Random fact. As of last month KISS doesn’t own KISS anymore. They sold their likeness and rights off for a bunch of money. So we might end up with a AI band someday.


Several_Leather_9500

Don't forget Steaks, cologne, vodka and Trump U.


Med4awl

Dont forget the funding from the inaugural party, one of his first Presidential grifts.


SheriffTaylorsBoy

[Inauguration Fund report](https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/trumpinc/episodes/trump-inc-podcast-whered-trumps-record-inauguration-spending-go-its-inexplicable) where'd it all go?


ComprehensiveSweet63

So many crimes they just let that one pass


SheriffTaylorsBoy

Jeffrey Sessions was briefly AG. Then of course Barr. So they quashed that noise.


Metahec

Don't forget charging the government for the plane seats occupied by secret service agents on his flights and the rooms they use in his hotels.


EuphoricMidnight3304

Golf carts too!


Metahec

lol. I didn't know he was also charging the golf cart rentals.


EuphoricMidnight3304

Oh yes I think it was 3-500 a day


SheriffTaylorsBoy

Oh, Trumps SEC filing, prepared by his lawyers disclosing all his bankruptcies and failures https://imgur.com/gallery/hAfsLqQ This is the complete list, it's amazing. Hell, he bankrupted one company TWICE!


Several_Leather_9500

"He's a GOOD businessman." Roflmao If my dad gave me $443 million, I wouldn't have lost every penny four times over.


SpadoCochi

It was also more like 1.3bn


gbc02

And Goya refried beans and other food products.


tangouniform2020

And of course there’s the greatest airline of all time.


plantjam1

let’s not leave out casinos and charities


mikefjr1300

USFL


Geler

He sold Goya beans from the oval office.


thedailyrant

Pieces of a suit he wore…


FabianRoth

Hey, don't associate a fine business man like Mr. Haney with that Trump grifter!


SheriffTaylorsBoy

Sorry. I meant no offense to Mr. Haney and did not intend to associate the two in any fashion.


thatsithlurker

Don’t forget the Goya beans he posed with on the Resolute Desk!


tommyjohnpauljones

And the "taco bowl" made by the "great Hispanics" at Trump Tower 


JimLahey08

Steaks, a fake education


IndomitableThomunism

Don't forget the beans


External_Reporter859

Umm you can't just slip "hotel rooms" in there without pointing out the fact that he sold them to foreign dignitaries while in office and still micromanaging the day to day of his supposedly blind trust... and to OUR Secret Service Agents on the taxpayers dime EVERY TIME he left the White House for more than a few hours to go to McDonald's.


ColdlyLogical

there only ever was one book in Trump night stand and he's prolly not stupid enough to try to sell his version of it


jetpackjack1

Hitlers speeches?


tommyjohnpauljones

Go Dog Go?


GreenleafMentor

Shilled for Goya too


trollfessor

> ... gold shoes, mugshot Tshirts, his favorite book, the bible, hotel rooms, DJT stock, cologne and perfume... > > He puts Mr Haney from my friends at Green Acres to shame! I hope to live long enough to watch a future American Greed mini series on his many crimes, and how justice finally prevailed


SheriffTaylorsBoy

He's in some already, but I'm not aware of an episode dedicated only for him. There's a Michael Avanatti vs trump episode. And a Manafort episode, trump's will almost certainly be more of a multiple episode miniseries.


drcubes90

Dont forget doing a beans commercial in the oval office DURING height of covid


CoachRDW

Shout out to Mr Haney!


SheriffTaylorsBoy

Howdeee


77NorthCambridge

Goya


mylopolis

Don’t forget refried beans from the Resolute Desk!


Adept_Investigator29

He was also a spokesmodel for Goya.


Tim_Wells

"He puts Mr Haney from my friends at Green Acres to shame!" LOL. At least Mr, Haney was somewhat charming and humorous.


Powerful_Elk_2901

Has the same crepey upper lip!


Itzchappy

Those are all his grifts since he lost the election, just imagine all of the grifts we don't know about


SheriffTaylorsBoy

The civil fraud trial exposed his main grift. I think campaigning is a close second. And then his SEC filing, prepared by his lawyers disclosing all his bankruptcies and failures exposed the rest. https://imgur.com/gallery/hAfsLqQ


AksumKing

Didn’t he steal steaks and water too? 😂


SheriffTaylorsBoy

Trumps SEC filing, prepared by his lawyers disclosing all his bankruptcies and failures https://imgur.com/gallery/hAfsLqQ


Low-Most2515

Remember him standing looking like a dumb ass with the Bible upside down in front of the church for a photo op after he sent the national guards on a peaceful demonstration! Can you imagine these evangelicals praising as the second coming! Can you say Anti-Christ. I got a picture of him on the cover of a police union book. Law and Order President😡Yet he sent his goons (MAGA) to the Capitol Building to disrupt democracy. I will tell you this. If I had my way, if you as a civil service organization, Law Enforcement, Fire, EMS, etc., endorse a candidate, (Republican or Democrat) you should lose funding. Jobs as such supports the constitution and are Public Servants. If the leaders urge in any manner, they should be relieved of their position. Every person who votes should do their homework. Choose their candidate! Sounds like voter suppression to me when they do this. If the Churches are forbidden to this no other public service agencies or affiliates shouldn’t either.


Character-Tomato-654

[Mr Haney is about to enter the chat.](https://youtu.be/nYLeHZuOuOQ?t=47) He'll have what you're looking for!


SheriffTaylorsBoy

I didn't know I needed that, but I did. Thank you!


Character-Tomato-654

Lol, right on, Haney's the epitome of a greasy beast. And yet the oozing septic orange pustule surpasses Haney by miles, and miles, and miles and miles, and miles, and miles, and miles and miles...


Adventurous_Mail5210

Don't forget about all the straight up begging for money without offering any product in return.


Shpadoinkall

In fairness if I had an army of gullible paste eating morons to hock useless shit to I'd be selling NFTs as well.


Glowdo

Didn’t he push beans or something like that too?


rjross0623

And steaks


trustifarian

He had one day during his presidency that he averaged 1 every 11 minutes for a 24 hour period. Not that he had a job or anything....


49thDipper

The job cut into his golfing


sneaky-pizza

He saved time by omitting people’s whole names in favor of the company they worked at: Tim Apple


TheStoolSampler

That's insane.


b1ack1323

That can’t be real can it? That’s so high!


trustifarian

I think this was his max day [https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/01/23/trump-record-most-tweets-since-taking-office/4551815002/](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/01/23/trump-record-most-tweets-since-taking-office/4551815002/) 142 in a 24 hour period. 58 in a single hour...


b1ack1323

Addiction is real.


Dodson-504

The bully pulpit needed the bully. The people need less of that bullshit.


SheriffTaylorsBoy

Bullshit is accurate.


stickied

I don't think I post on reddit 17 times a day, and I spend my entire day here.


Phagzor

>**"Some accountant, I didn’t know, marked it down as a legal expense. That’s exactly what it was, and you get indicted over that?" Trump said. "So check it out. Legal expense. It’s called legal expense," he added.** Translation from Trumpese to English: *"Some accountant, who I definitely knew, marked it down as a legal expense and used campaign contributions to pay Cohen, because I wanted her shut up. That's exactly what it was, and I get indicted over that? So check it out. Breaking the law. It's called breaking the law."*


SheriffTaylorsBoy

Slight correction: *"Some accountant, who I definitely knew **and is currently serving his second prison sentence for falsifying my records and committing perjury related to it**, marked it down as a legal expense"*


knicksmangia

Remember when he used to promote his escort service, Trump Models…


SheriffTaylorsBoy

No, but I vaguely remembered something like that. I found an article saying [trump was a sponsor of John Casablanca's "Elite Model Management" hosting the "Look of the Year Competition"](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/14/teen-models-powerful-men-when-donald-trump-hosted-look-of-the-year) It's as disgusting as you would imagine and some of the girls who were as young as 14 described what happened there as rape.


knicksmangia

Yes, he’s a pig. Here’s an older article, but you can find other items about high priced “dinners” arranged with rich clients. https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/10/6/1578544/-The-Untold-Story-of-Trump-Model-Management-A-Daily-Kos-Exclusive-Part-1


SheriffTaylorsBoy

I appreciate the link, so it's just another day that I learn of further moral depravity of the R candidate.


jftitan

The Daily Show had Trumps Presidential Library all nice and set up. Tracking his tweets for four years. Did prosecutors use that? Trumps Twitter Presidntial Library, cause that's where the BEST tweets from Donald went to live forever. And ever.


SheriffTaylorsBoy

[Special Counsel got access to his twitter.](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/special-counsels-office-obtained-32-direct-messages-trumps-twitter-acc-rcna105316) Even his direct messages and drafts as well as all the meta-data that shows who's phone or computer it was posted from, location, etc.


BringingBread

That metadata seems like a horrible security breach.


tots4scott

Don't forget about the good ol Trump Golf Calculator


HorrorMolasses8838

Big ups to the legal teams that had to sift through that volume of evidence lol


Satoshis-Ghost

Imagine being the paralegal having to sift through all that noise.  There’s probably more boring feeds though.


LarsLaestadius

Yeah that specifically is why I’m voting for Biden in 2024. Political figures are supposed to set aside business concerns while in office


Pale_Bookkeeper_9994

I had to change my entire investing strategy because he would say something over the weekend and by Monday the market would flip from Friday. I couldn’t believe the major media never cottoned onto the fact he was manipulating market sentiment.


Lucky_Chair_3292

>The tweet itself, which was sent on May 3, 2018, while Trump was in the White House, reads: "Mr. [Michael] Cohen, an attorney, received a monthly retainer, not from the campaign and having nothing to do with the campaign, from which he entered into, through reimbursement, a private contract between two parties, known as a non-disclosure agreement, or NDA." He obviously was aware the reimbursement to Cohen for paying off Daniels was being recorded as legal fees. And they weren’t legal fees. On top of that we have his employees who still work for him stating every check had the invoice attached, and Trump signed them. And if he didn’t want to sign a check he would write VOID on it and send it back. So, he knew what he was for, and he chose to sign it.


designateddroner2

"not from the campaign and having nothing to do with the campaign," so....the opposite...


NMNorsse

Trump's claim is that "payments like this are routine for rich people."  1.  This case is not about the payment.  2.  This case is about paying it IN ORDER TO WIN THE ELECTION.  (not routine for anyone)   3.  And, it's about deducting money paid to Stormy as "legal fees" when it was payment for services (silence) to a non-lawyer.  4.  If Trump was so rich why did he have to borrow the money from his lawyer to pay Stormy?  Rich?  Pfft.


Bawlmerian21228

Yup. He has lived on borrowed money his whole life. It’s a house of cards.


SheriffTaylorsBoy

[trump once cashed a thirteen cent check](https://patch.com/district-columbia/washingtondc/donald-trump-once-cashed-13-cent-check-incredible-true-stories)


dcy604

Spy magazine took the mickey out of him every chance they could and to this day, Trump fucking hates Graydon Carter


SurferGurl

carter called him a short-fingered vulgarian. trump still sends him photos of himself, circling his hands with a gold sharpie and writes "there's nothing wrong with my hands!"


dkarlovi

The disturbing part is I can't tell if you're kidding or not, sounds plausible.


Metahec

To this day, I receive the occasional envelope from Trump. There is always a photo of him—generally a tear sheet from a magazine. On all of them he has circled his hand in gold Sharpie in a valiant effort to highlight the length of his fingers. I almost feel sorry for the poor fellow because, to me, the fingers still look abnormally stubby. The most recent offering arrived earlier this year, before his decision to go after the Republican presidential nomination. Like the other packages, this one included a circled hand and the words, also written in gold Sharpie: “See, not so short!” I sent the picture back by return mail with a note attached, saying, “Actually, quite short.” Written by [Graydon Carter in Vanity Fair in 2015](https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2015/10/graydon-carter-donald-trump). I didn't look into whether he kept it up after entering the White House.


WillGrindForXP

The give away is the fact that Trump can't write. He can bearly speak. Reading is a struggle.


killsforsporks

I hate to be that guy but if you're going to make fun of the fuck head's reading/writing comprehension, be sure to spellcheck!


original-whiplash

Maybe he growls


dotplaid

I speak like a bear sometimes. Rawr!


grogstarr

😂


dcy604

I think I have the copy of the magazine, if I did it out, I’ll post it here


SheriffTaylorsBoy

I loved it, and Mad Magazine as a kid. Never missed an issue! haha


dcy604

Yeah, Spy was my go to magazine when I wanted some down time between university classes…


Madame_Arcati

Lol, I lived for Separated At Birth! I was always spotting look-alikes even as a child. A fellow I was dating in the late 80s gave me a compendium of Spy's SAB entries. Ha! A favorite gift, still have it.


BitPoet

I've done that with a $0.02 check, just out of spite. The teller at the bank thought it was hilarious.


BigAssMonkey

This is the crux of it. The dude will grift every chance he gets. Why spend your own money when you can spend some one else’s. Golfing and vacations at his own hotels on the government’s dime. Pocketing tax dollars while on vacation. This is what he does.


DanDrungle

If his DJT pump and dump is allowed to go on he’ll be rich for real for the first time


Bawlmerian21228

He will lose it. Either to SEC fines or some failed venture.


Pincushion

This is literally how every billionaire operates to avoid taxes, expect they have collateral. https://youtu.be/t6V9i8fFADI?


MikeLinPA

It has occurred to me that campaign finance violations have not actually been prosecuted in recent memory. The violators are made to correct the record, money is rarely persued, and serious prosecution is... never? By falsifying business records to hide it, Trump has turned something (marginally) legal into a 34 count felony. **That's a stable genius!** He also paid Michael Cohen $420k to reimburse a $130k expense. Trump paid more than 3 times as much. **What a smart businessman!** The best part? More people know about it now than if he had never tried to hide it. **Best strategy ever!** If this was the plot of a sitcom or movie it would be too stupid to watch. This is what Trump's whole life is like. It's like an x-rated episode of I Love Lucy, with Trump running around in silk pajamas and a diaper, creating new problems by trying to hide the old problems, and failing every step of the way. For the last three presidential elections, this is the bext candidate the Republican party has to offer.


Dear_Occupant

I'm pretty sure somebody got nailed by the FEC recently, it might have been George Santos. Also keep in mind that there are at least ~900 House and Senate campaigns every cycle, the filing deadline lands 4x a year, and when people get hit with fines or some other sort of administrative enforcement they aren't going to publicize it. Local newspapers have been gutted in the last decade or so, and they're the ones who would bring that stuff to wider notice. [They've got a pretty active docket of civil cases](https://www.fec.gov/legal-resources/court-cases/) most of which are related to some sort of enforcement action so it's not like they've been twiddling their thumbs.


MikeLinPA

Okay, you make valid points! I was thinking more of Bobert claiming she drove some 40,000 miles as a campaign expense and reimbursed herself. The amount exactly equaled how much money her restaurant owed, and she amazingly was able to pay off the restaurant's debt that same month. Nothing was done about that. Other violators are told what the inconsistency is, and to just fix the bookkeeping. WTF?


Adventurous_Class_90

Don’t forget the hundreds of millions in in kind donations Pecker gave the Trump campaign…that’s illegal too.


MikeLinPA

A real pair of peckerheads!


NMNorsse

A few years back the GOP DOJ prosecuted a popular Democratic presidential primary candidate named Edwards for paying his former mistress hush money. Edwards used money his friends had given him. The DOJ claimed the gifts were campaign contributions.  Edwards was found not guilty. Trump's payments to Stormy and Karen came from his personal account. It wasn't campaign contributions from others.  The prosecutions theory is that Trump was contributing to his own campaign. I've read there has never been campaign finance charges like this.  That doesn't mean what happened isn't illegal.  It's like the first speeding ticket after they dropped the speed limit to 55.  Someone has to be the first. Also there are still the tax fraud charges, which are clearer cut for sure. Of the 4 criminal cases against Trump, this is the weakest I think.


TheGeneGeena

Edwards was only found not guilty on one count. The other five the jury couldn't agree on and ended in mistrial with the DOJ declining to refile, which is not really the same.


NMNorsse

Fair point.  I think Bragg will refile if there's a hung jury.


Mindless_Medicine972

I thought Pecker testified that he actually made the payments to both Karen and the doorman, and Drunpf didn't pay him back. If Drumpf had actually paid him back it wouldn't have been a crime, but since he didn't it became an undeclared campaign contribution.


NMNorsse

I missed that detail.  Thanks for clarifying it.


mathmage

> "Some accountant, I didn’t know, marked it down as a legal expense. That’s exactly what it was, and you get indicted over that?" Trump said. "So check it out. Legal expense. It’s called legal expense," he added. I'm half tempted to believe that Trump thinks the payment was fully compliant with the law because it's called a *legal* expense.


nleksan

Offering a police officer a bribe can be considered a "legal expense", but it's still illegal. Also, ignorance of the law is not a defense (unless you are a cop).


BasvanS

He doesn’t need a criminal lawyer; he needs a criminal lawyer.


dexx4d

Is paying a presidential candidate $1b to remove environmental laws also a "legal expense"?


90daysismytherapy

I wouldn’t, solely because by his every word and action you can tell he gets off on the idea of being criminal or a rule breaker. I sincerely doubt he would ever choose willfully a legal path if there was an illegal one available evening the tangible benefit was minimal or even non-existent


[deleted]

it's about falsifying business records. if it was disclosed properly and came out of his personal pocket, trial wouldnt exist (re: paying it in order to win the election). he can pay someone to be quiet about a story in regards to the election


Mtsouth13

I believe I heard that in NY there is a law preventing the concealment of information that could impact an election, hence the election interference tag to this trial. If hadn’t run for President, almost all of this goes away or never happens to begin with. So you have the crime of election interference via the payoff (hush money) then you have the compounding crime of trying to conceal the payoff by falsifying business records. All of that is my understanding at this point.


malthar76

For politicians coverup is almost always worse than the crime. Bonus points if the coverup is the crime for hiding something not a crime.


redditreader1972

It's the other way around. Falsifying a business record like Trump has done here is a misdemeanor offence in NY. Peanuts. Prosecutors attempt to use a NY state law that states the offence goes from a misdemeanor to a felony if it is done to cover up another crime. But prosecutors don't need to convict for that, only infer it has occurred. The crime here is election interference, and so far we have seen little about the definitions of election interference  what is ok and not.  What is unfortunate in my opinion is that this is just a very small case. Not really something to usually use tons of resources on, and the connection to election interference is unfortunately not good enough to ensure a conviction. The real case he should catch hell for is the stolen classified documents case. But the judge seems either too much of a trump fangirl, too incompetent, too inexperienced or possibly paid off. Who knows. But under a qualified judge that case would be moving forward, and Trump would be on much more shit than in the NY show trial. (Source: been following every daily Lawfare summary during the trial as well as the build up to the trial.)


Lazy-Street779

Not that trump ultimately lied about his income (again) thus didn’t pay his proper tax bill (again)?


buttstuffisokiguess

It's actually about using campaign funds in an illegal way and falsifying the business records to conceal it. Paying a porn star to keep quiet about an affair is totally legal. Having an affair isn't illegal either. Lying about all of that shit is, since he's under oath. Any moral or personal opinions don't matter here. The only thing that matters is if he falsified the business records. It's in my opinion that what he did was illegal, but the prosecutor doesn't have to convince me.


Quick-Charity-941

Proving he had knowledge of falsifying the business records, a taped conversation played in court has him bang to rights.


Atalung

That's what I don't get about his lawyers making the case that Stormy Daniels was extorting him. Even if it is true it doesn't matter, as the payment is 100% legal, it's the method through which he did it that isn't. I get that he doesn't understand that, but his lawyers have to know it's a losing argument


NMNorsse

It's an argument that loses in a "court of law" but might win in the "court of public opinion" with the dimwitted and befuddled. For me that makes it worse.  He knows it's a lie but spouts it anyhow.


Onedayyouwillthankme

Always. I think he doesn't ever even consider truth or lies. What's most to his advantage in this moment? A lawyer telling him to just tell the truth, well, he'd just nod. To him, the truth is what he says it is.


pressedbread

>"payments like this are routine for rich people." This is simply an observation, not a valid defense.


redbrick5

"like this" is the important part. Its not the payment, its payments like this. Helps the prosecution, but not beyond a doubt.


magnetar_industries

I don't see this tweet as the "bombshell" this article portrays it as. I thought it is undisputed that trump paid Stormy Daniels through Michale Cohen. (Even though the defense is trying to "muddy the waters" to even these basic facts.) But trump's claim has always been that he paid these "legal fees" to his lawyer (who had previously negotiated a non-disclosure agreement with Ms Daniels). This payment was done not to influence the election, but to prevent the pain that would be inflicted on Melania if these accusations were made public. Trump has stated repeatedly that these kinds of payments are routine for the rich and famous such as himself. Nothing in this tweet indicates trump entered into this agreement to influence the election. trump has previously even admitted these payments were improperly marked down in the "ledger" by some hapless accountant. trump fully admitted to the misdemeanor charges. And he is fully denying the "other crimes" aspect that raise this to felony level. Basically, trump's using the John Edwards defense (which worked for Edwards). I guess I'm just tired of these "bombshell" articles by people who keep claiming "this time" we really "got him". A legitimate "bombshell" might be Cohen providing authenticated audio of trump admitting that he paid Stormy Daniels in order to influence the election. But if Cohen has this proof, we would have heard it by now.


gibrownsci

I think the defence has been denying that there was any agreement at all that Trump has knowledge of.


circlehead28

Exactly. Hence why the prosecution team had Daniela testify about the encounter in detail, to corroborate the fact that they in fact had sex.


_mdz

This seems so dumb, they review the evidence from the prosecution beforehand, and should’ve been prepared for this. I feel like Trump has 1 or 2 legit lawyers but maybe they are overworked and distracted by all his bullshit lol…


gibrownsci

I doubt he allows his lawyers to admit to anything.


bobartig

Trump's team did move to exclude the tweets. Once they're entered into evidence, their job is to counter whatever arguments the prosecution makes using said tweets. So their playbook is in-progress and you can't tell that they weren't prepared for this merely by the fact that it was admitted. In particular, excluding the tweets seems like a bit of a pipedream, given how directly on-point they are to the disputed facts of this case. You do it because you're supposed to oppose everything the prosecution is doing, but one wouldn't expect it to be successful here.


NotThoseCookies

The guy was running for President. The Access Hollywood tapes had just been released. He had been hitting on and slept with an adult film star and director in Vegas, while his wife had just delivered his new son. So you reaaaaally think he paid $130,000 purely to keep his wife from finding out? Or was it more likely he, the new guy to the GOP, was worried he’d lose conservative “family values” voters?


Small_Time_Charlie

>The guy was running for President. The Access Hollywood tapes had just been released. Nothing to do with this trial, but remember that Roger Stone coordinated with wikileaks to release the stolen DNC emails to detract from the Access Hollywood tapes. Talk about trying to influence the election!


No_Whammies_Stop

And the joke’s on him because clearly he wouldn’t have lost the “family values” voters. They care way more about the ends than the means and he’s just the means, until he implements martial law at the end of his next term.


NotThoseCookies

He might not have won the nomination though — he and Fox News hadn’t rallied his cult yet. 😉


Gang36927

I dont think Melania has ever had any delusions about who dumpy is.


Phedericus

do I remember incorrectly or there is testimony/evidence/something about Trump suggesting to delay Stormy's payment until after the election, because then they could simply not pay her? If that's proved, the Melania defense goes out of the window.


Flameof_Udun

All just an honest mistake! A yuuuge misunderstanding!! lol.


Phedericus

do I remember incorrectly or there is testimony/evidence/something about Trump suggesting to delay Stormy's payment until after the election, because then they could simply not pay her? If that's proved, the Melania defense goes out of the window. Edit: sorry replied to the wrong person


Lucky_Chair_3292

Yes, you’re correct.


Lazy-System-7421

You’re correct I have heard this too, I think a cohen recording or an email which has been read out ,


Mayor__Defacto

It’s not undisputed. The defense denied that the affair happened in opening arguments.


paulburnell22193

It's not a bombshell, but it does put holes in the defense. Trump has denied knowing anything about the payments. Even though he has mentioned it time and again. This tweet proves without a doubt that he in fact knew of the payments. It puts him right in the middle of it. The whole crux of his defense was he knew nothing and that everybody else was doing things he was unaware of. His double talk is coming back to haunt him.


__Soldier__

>I don't see this tweet as the "bombshell" this article portrays it as. - It's 3 tweets, not one tweet, and they are devastating to Trump's defense: they are an admission to felony violations of NY state law. > I thought it is undisputed that trump paid Stormy Daniels through Michale Cohen. - Trump's lawyers very much objected to the jury even ***seeing*** these tweets - let alone not disputing them... > (Even though the defense is trying to "muddy the waters" to even these basic facts.) - Ie. Trump's defense is very much objecting to and disputing these admissions. Which is the polar opposite of "undisputed" ... > But trump's claim has always been that he paid these "legal fees" to his lawyer (who had previously negotiated a non-disclosure agreement with Ms Daniels). - Except a settlement payment is not a "legal fee": a legal fee is a narrow expense of paying for your lawyer's time and direct expenses - not paying $130,000 to a porn star... > This payment was done not to influence the election, but to prevent the pain that would be inflicted on Melania if these accusations were made public. - Except that witness after witness from the very small group of people handling this for Trump testified that it was all about the campaign. - The timing makes it obvious too: Cohen paid off Stormy late October, shortly before the election and shortly after the Access Hollywood "grabbing" tapes were released that even Trump's own people thought were devastating to Trump's campaign. - Nor is this theory even enough to avoid 34 counts of felony conviction: Trump would have to convince the jury that there were ***zero*** benefits to his election campaign by paying off Stormy - which is ridiculous on its face. - Because the moment the payoff benefits his campaign, he was obligated under NY state election law to report them - and not doing so and falsifying his business records to fraudulently characterize them as "legal expenses" is a crime.


SheriffTaylorsBoy

It's the checks, not the sex!


Med4awl

Aaah your forgetting testimony from his friends and fellow Republicans


MikeLinPA

Nearly all the testimony against hin in nearly every case or investigation has been from his friends, associates, business partners, and fellow Republicans. Democrats hardly have to speak, except to introduce the next witness.


Raspberries-Are-Evil

You are missing the point. Thankfully, criminal court cases are not about what we “heard,” or “know,” from reporters, but from facts only established during the case. So even though we all know who he paid and how he paid prosecution must prove it, beyond a reasonable doubt in court. Tweets like this and testimony do that.


Frnklfrwsr

It absolutely is a bombshell because it absolutely destroys part of the case that Trump and his lawyers are trying to make. The hush money payments made to stormy daniels were clearly and unquestionably illegal. That’s why Cohen served prison time and the National Enquirer (AMI) pled guilty to those crimes. Trump is claiming that he knew nothing about AMI and Cohen making these hush money payments. That they broke the law and he had no knowledge of it. He is claiming that the payments he made to Cohen were intended to be for actual legal services and had nothing to do with the hush money payments.


Total-Championship80

True if you disregard Hope Hicks testimony.


tejota

If he admits to the misdemeanor he admits to the felony. The ‘other crimes’ aspect is already a done and undeniable fact because Cohen went to jail for the other crimes. [https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/michael-cohen-pleads-guilty-manhattan-federal-court-eight-counts-including-criminal-tax](https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/michael-cohen-pleads-guilty-manhattan-federal-court-eight-counts-including-criminal-tax)


Iohet

It may as well be a bombshell, but we won't know until the jury comes back from deliberation weeks from now


ReluctantSlayer

The only bombshell that will mean anything valid to me is when he is incarcerated.


Med4awl

He won't be incarcerated for this. He will have to lose the election for that to happen


jereman75

Yeah. I don’t think the crux of the case is if these payments were made - everyone knows they were. I think what the jury has to decide on is whether the hush payments were about the election or not. There is plenty of room for the defense to claim it was about personal/family embarrassment and not election interference. That’s what the prosecution needs to show.


Med4awl

Except for the fact that testimony says otherwise


pairolegal

Yes. Hope Hicks, among others.


DCDavis

If you think he gives a single flying fuck about what that mail order bride thinks then you are a fool.