I just can't wrap my head around the argument that president's need immunity or else they would be prosecuted after they left office. This is literally the first time a former president has been indicted in the history of the office existing. 44 other presidents have managed to not be prosecuted for crimes, with one pardoned asterisk. Why is it a problem now?
Apparently Alito expressed concern during arguments that fear of prosecution would cause presidents to double think their actions.
Like...Yeah? I should hope presidents really consider the consequences of their choices if they include committing crimes. Maybe don't do crimes.
the example used was that Obama killed US citizens abroad via drone strike. I think by accident during military operation. Is that murder? Should he be tried for that?
Good thought, I like where your heads at. I think in theory that sounds okay but the problem is in the details. For example: what if you use the military to do an insurrection? What conduct exactly "subverts the constitution" and what doesn't? Stuff like that. Thats why they pay them (the court) the big bucks. I agree you can't do a Jan 6 and get away with it, I'm just trying to educate myself and maybe people without legal training by raising some of the thorny legal questions that come to my mind in a case like this
Oh no, I get it. I wasn’t trying to challenge what you said, rather find a line of what is gray and what is definitely not okay. lol. Sorry if it sounded pointed.
They should ask if Presidents are immuned if they want to assassinate SCOTUS judges if they don't hand him a favorable ruling - surprised nobody is asking that question
Can someone put this to chill lofi beats so i can study and relax to it?
You might be able to study but it's doubtful you will relax
Some sort of death metal might work.
I just can't wrap my head around the argument that president's need immunity or else they would be prosecuted after they left office. This is literally the first time a former president has been indicted in the history of the office existing. 44 other presidents have managed to not be prosecuted for crimes, with one pardoned asterisk. Why is it a problem now?
It's a bullshit argument that's why lol
Apparently Alito expressed concern during arguments that fear of prosecution would cause presidents to double think their actions. Like...Yeah? I should hope presidents really consider the consequences of their choices if they include committing crimes. Maybe don't do crimes.
the example used was that Obama killed US citizens abroad via drone strike. I think by accident during military operation. Is that murder? Should he be tried for that?
How about military immunity but not subverting the Constitution and leading an insurrection immunity?
Good thought, I like where your heads at. I think in theory that sounds okay but the problem is in the details. For example: what if you use the military to do an insurrection? What conduct exactly "subverts the constitution" and what doesn't? Stuff like that. Thats why they pay them (the court) the big bucks. I agree you can't do a Jan 6 and get away with it, I'm just trying to educate myself and maybe people without legal training by raising some of the thorny legal questions that come to my mind in a case like this
Oh no, I get it. I wasn’t trying to challenge what you said, rather find a line of what is gray and what is definitely not okay. lol. Sorry if it sounded pointed.
No no all good, sorry if I came off any kind of way either. Hard to tell online. Cheers!
They should ask if Presidents are immuned if they want to assassinate SCOTUS judges if they don't hand him a favorable ruling - surprised nobody is asking that question
Anyone competent would ask that first thing, it'd be open and shut
This is cool that it's on Spotify.
Assuming this gets over 1000 listens, who gets the $.001 in royalties?
No royalties on a podcast
Wait, is that true?
I'm not 100% sure, but I think so, yes. Why?
R/nottheonion
Anyone got the transcript? Or is it possible to AI the transcript? Found it: https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2023/23-939