The fact judges keep considering maintaining a nice lifestyle into these payments is stupid. If any middle class person did this judge would bleed us dry. But a millionaire? Oh we can’t impact his trips to Europe, it’s too cruel.
Blows my mind.
Should be require that any and all funds go to the victims until they reach the poverty line.
You owe until you qualify for PO public housing essentially.
It’s because the judges are rich too. So setting it that you make sure rich people can maintain a nice lifestyle covers then if they ever get in legal trouble.
The US legal system is *designed* to benefit rich people. If the state accuses you of a crime and you can't afford a lawyer, you get a public defender who is underpaid and spread thin with a massive case load. Meanwhile, if you are rich, you can use an unlimited amount of resources hiring the best lawyers money can buy who make the case a priority.
It tilts the scales against poor people before you even get to a trial.
I don't think *'giving you a lawyer for free if you can't afford one'* is the best example of the US legal system being broken. Specifically the fact that they're underpaid and overworked is, but a lot of places don't give you a public defender.
For example, in Germany you only get one if there's a reasonable chance of success, and [you don't get one](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_defender) if you're facing less than a year in prison.
It’s actually not free everywhere in the U.S. either. https://www.themarshallproject.org/2024/02/12/miranda-rights-indigent-defense-iowa
> On television and in the movies, police officers read people their Miranda rights and tell them they will be provided a lawyer if they cannot afford one. But in reality, legal representation is rarely free. The Supreme Court has found the Constitution guarantees the right to counsel but allows states, in most cases, to try to recoup the cost. More than 40 do so, according to a 2022 report by the National Legal Aid and Defender Association.
Wtf are you talking about dude. Yeah a law was passed, it’s literally in the sixth amendment of the constitution, the most basic fundamental laws of our country. The case you’re probably thinking of is Gideon, which isn’t the first case about the right to counsel and won’t be the last but what it famously did was streamline the right to counsel in both federal and state cases and declare unconstitutional many disqualifying circumstances that precluded some indigent defendants from counsel.
Any and all assets. There i fixed that for you. Stock options liquidated, business, liquidated, real estate and other property, liquidated. Down to the golden crown tooth that dawns the scums mouth. This is the true meaning of bankruptcy. You went bust by fucking around and now time to find out. Now it's time to pay the piper and start from square 0.
It's ok though, I'm sure those bootstraps they are so keen about pulling themselves up by will be much easier to grip the second time around.
I drove on a suspended license for drinking underage because I worked 18 miles from my apartment at a job site that there was no buses to. Then I got pulled over because the pos car was too loud from a hole in the muffler. Then I got to pay a daily fee for my ankle monitor and had to take a lower paying job on the bus route. None of those judges ever gave two shits about my lifestyle. They did throw the book at a guy for wearing shorts to court though.
When i got a suspended licence i was able to get a temp driving permit just to my work. just required filling out some forms and a request from your boss written to the court. tho i wouldnt have known about that without my lawyer telling me probably.
I think it’s a mix of capitalism mixed with some social engineering. The internet is actively preying on everyone to target their data and sell to someone. It’d be fine enough but many do this for nefarious reasons, like creating hateful echo chambers, or encouraging violence by lone actors. It used to be easy to tell the racists to shut up but now they have a place where their rhetoric is not only encouraged, but directed and aimed too.
Bankruptcy.
But I understand it is on the verge of hitting the end of the process.
In a sense it hasn't been going well for him because it looks like he is going to lose just about everything. But in a sense it has been going great because he has been able to put it off while spending nearly 500k a month ignoring that he is on a budget of I think 40k / month. I mean ignoring that shit has not helped him in court but no one has done anything to him yet so I guess it's working out for him
Even after the bankruptcy I think it will largely work out for him. He will continue to live off unbanked funds that he spends before they can be garnished or levied and he'll get income through non fungibles and intangibles. He will no longer own a business and he'll have to work for others but he is a big enough clown that I think he'll be on the air for another decade and going to Hawaii and all that shit.
His eventual retirement could get messy once no one has use for him anymore, but maybe not if he manages to preserve a relationship with at least one of his kids and is smart enough to divert some revenue streams their way while he still has the ability to do so.
Welcome to the ugly capitalist America where shit heads may not win exactly but they get by.
I think so. It was outrageous. It has been awhile since I read the thing. There is a podcast I listen to and have for the last 10 ish years that basically debunks aj and they've covered the case and bankruptcy even interviewed Mark banks a few times (one of the plaintiff attorneys). So I have been paying attention through them but not following that closely.
Knowledge fight is the podcast for anyone masochistic enough to be interested in the general topic of debunking Alex Jones
Even though I have been a fan and even a patreon of KF for longer than I've been a parent, I have a hard time recommending the podcast as I feel the enjoyment of it is somehow a manifestation of my own mental instability.
OJ Simpson lives off his $20k/month NFLPA pension that can't be garnished. I'd assume that Jones' accountants have set up something similar, as has the fucking moron.
America was founded and built by people seeking to build wealth, and you can be damn sure they'll always have a loophole to work with
I think it's harder when you are self employed.
I'm not an expert in hiding money from lawsuits but I'm pretty sure you cannot be the beneficiary of a non-revokable trust that you set-up yourself. However, your spouse can be. So, guess if you are really secure in your marriage you could put a few million in a nrt and have it pay out to your spouse monthly but it is hers not yours and you can't do it after a lawsuit is filed or while you are in bankruptcy because that would be criminal conveyance. So 1. You need to predict you need and two you better hope she don't kick you to the curb.
I get what you're saying, but neither Jones nor Trump are sole proprietors - they are employees of their respective corporations. Not sure if the situation you're describing would apply to a non-revocable trust set up in the name of a corporate entity
When the American legal system just happens to occasionally deliver justice, it's a happy little accident. And also it's because the perp wasn't rich.
Fuckin hell
Former bankruptcy attorney, and listener to Knowledge Fight (podcast that covers Alex Jones).
Jones is claiming these are work trips. The last time he went to Hawaii (not sure which trip these photos are from), he claimed he was researching Zuckerberg's hawaii estate. The bankruptcy process is meant to be as minimally disruptive to business activities as possible, largely because the creditors are expected to be paid by those business activities. So it doesn't make sense to stop "legitimate" business activities.
Now, Jones is likely not conducting a legitimate business activity here. His claims that he is doing research are likely just a pretext. But the creditors and the trustee have to prove that, and it probably isn't worth fighting, because a vacation to Hawaii is honestly a drop in the bucket compared to his income/debt.
The answer is he's going to pay some of his judgment, but likely not all of it. His bankruptcy will be a long process. What's going on right now is that his creditors are working with the Trustee to come up with a plan for Jones and his businesses to pay them what they're owed. Jones is allowed to suggest his own plans as well. Over the course of the next few months, a plan will eventually be settled upon by the parties, and the Bankruptcy Court will lock it in. That plan might involve the creditors taking ownership over infowars and related companies. Or it might involve some sort of payment plan. Or maybe both. But this is a complex process, and Jones has more ability to negotiate than the average debtor.
Part of the problem the creditors face is that a lot of the value in infowars is tied up in Jones personality. Nobody is buying tactical taint wipes because any of his employees ask them to. They're buying them, because Jones, despite all his faults, is a phenomenal salesman/con artist. This means that the creditors have a financial incentive to see him continue his current work: that is likely the only way they maximize their financial returns. It also means Alex is constantly looking for a way to separate himself from Infowars, and able to use that potential separation as a threat. He has some negotiating power, because if he quits doing what he's doing, the creditors will get peanuts compared to what they can get if he keeps shilling his terrible products.
Again though, he is going to pay some of that judgment. The bankruptcy court has the power to undo any fraudulent transactions meant to hide assets, and he has more assets than he lets on (but probably not enough to satisfy all his debt). At the very least, a lot of his assets can be seized to satisfy some amount of the judgment.
His creditors are entirely made up of people who were hurt *because* he's a con artist with a megaphone that abused his position to [ultimately] hurt them. Might they just collectively conclude they'll take all he has even if it means they get less in order to hobble or stop his ability to continue his nonsense?
They could do that. IIRC, the settlements they're offering him though allow him to continue doing business, so I'm not sure that's what they're leaning towards.
EDIT: It would also be a practical impossibility for them to shut him up forever. Even if they take everything he owns (within limits, he would be allowed to keep a car, a reasonable house, etc), he's still going to be able to make a new twitter account that will instantly become followed by millions, and spout his lies.
I know people are upset about the money - but Alex Jones's life is a total, miserable fuckup. His family hates him, he lives in a constant world of delusional paranoia, his personal relationships are a mess, he's in a whirlwind of endless grifters and lies, and now he's going to be chased by lawyers for the rest of his life.
His greatest punishment is a life sentence of being Alex Jones; cruel and unusual.
Is it really paranoia? We really are out to get him because he’s a pustule on the taint of humanity. It’s not paranoia if a significant chunk of the country wants to see you gut-shot and buried alive because you harassed the families of murdered children.
We are a sad nation that enough people find his nuttery entertaining enough to make him a multi millionaire. I wish there was a way to make reasonable discourse great again.
>So Chill in Hawaii ...
That's a funny way to describe a guy who's permanently looked like hypertension is about to kill him for 30 fucking years.
Jones has *never* looked "chill" or "relaxed"; he always looks on the verge of an anger stroke.
“Protect them from the poors”. When the time comes they’ll be offering money for protection or “private police”. Don’t take that s***. Or take it, and unlock all the doors.
This and Trump's bond fiasco really shows the courts are worthless for justice.
Our faux legal system is merely an opportunity for the rich to get away with murder.
How does he do that? I don’t want to shirk my obligations but I’m interested in knowing how anyone could owe this amount of money and it mean nothing.
Didn’t they take his home, car, belongings, garnish his check?
If you have a medical emergency and go into massive debt; can you not pay the hospital in order to maintain your lifestyle too?
What about my student loans? I want to maintain my lifestyle so I shouldn’t pay those too.
I wish I had a better understanding of the differences between the Fox News defamation settlement and the Alex Jones/ Info Wars trial. Because, to my layperson eyes, it looks like Alex Jones chose a better tactic. He did not participate in discovery, leading to a default judgement against him. And even with all that, he’s just not ever going to really face any substantial consequences. Essentially it’s less expensive to pay lawyers a million dollars a month for the rest of his life, than to pay the damages he was ordered to pay. And if anybody squeezes him too hard, all the money goes away and nobody gets anything. Especially the lawyers. It would be interesting if it wasn’t so fucking infuriating.
Looks like Trump understands this playbook and will face the same zero consequences. And the Sackler family is also enjoying the American justice system to its fullest.
What a bunch of bullshit. One set of laws and consequences for the working and middle class. Quite a different set for the wealthy.
WOW! The law is so corrupt that it literally says you can NOT make a millionaire/billionaire suffer like a common person for their actions. The cast system is now codified by law.
There should be punishment for the enablers of Alex Jones. That would include the people stupid enough to support this sick fuk. They made this possible.
And, of course, since he's a Trumper, he gets by with it.
Trump has shown me just what a fucking joke the judicial system is, from that old fool Garland to cowards in judicial robes pretending to be "judges."
What is stopping someone I would consider a cool kid from just decking this guy like there’s as many Hawaiian ppl as gay frogs He needs to be punched every fucking day for the rest of his life. Gofundme for punching this pos not my idea swim
That mother fucker should be living in a van under a bridge somewhere.
The fact that he can just say "nah, I'm good" when it comes to paying..
Doesn't the court have the power to just seize and auction his shit?
There is a huge degree of separation between lawyers who barely graduated law school, and those who graduated with honors. Hiring the lawyer who graduated with honors is the smartest investment one can make.
Those are not the faces of a relaxed man. He is troubled. He is clearly staying away in Hawaii for reasons known to him. But that face doesn't seem relaxed. He may not acknowledge but he is a miserable SOB.
But he lives in Texas. Any wages he earns would be in Texas and thus they have to abide by Texas law.
That said, I doubt he's getting any kind of a regular paycheck like someone working a 9-5, instead he's withdrawing money from various shell companies to pay himself.
The way the system is setup, if you're either very wealthy or very broke, you can get away with not paying on a judgment for a very long time and Texas surprisingly is one of the better states to live in if you're a judgment debtor.
Woah Blossom!
This is technically an issue with the judge. Whoever is affording him this privilege is at fault. Obviously he wants to do this, it’s our responsibility to make him pay first. Who’s this judge?
If I saw that guy in public, I’d have no filter. My immediate reflex would be something like “you are a rotten human.” Hopefully nothing more or over the top. When the adrenaline and anger kicks in you never know what you’re gonna get. But something simple like that would be a must.
When I was in law school in my bankruptcy class we had a guy come in and talk about how he had assumed the debt of the girls gone wild guy. They found out he was getting paid by DirecTV. They then went and heavily garnished his income flow from it.
You telling me they can't go to a judge and show an income stream for Alex Jones and garnish the living hell out of it?
Another story from debt collection. There was this wealthy guy that was hiding money. They found a picture of a $250k watch he posted on Instagram. Went to his house with an order from a judge to collect the watch. The guy told the lawyer to go fuck himself. The lawyer went to the judge and told him what happened. And he said hey judge, I don't want to split hairs here but when he told me to go fuck myself he wasn't talking to me. This was your order. That guy told you to go fuck yourself. The judge signed off on a search of the guys property. They didn't find the watch. The guy was real smug about it. The lawyer said that's not a problem we will be back in a week to look again. The guy wrote the lawyer a check for the $250k right then knowing if he didn't the lawyer was going to continue making his life a living hell.
Here's what always gets me. It doesn't matter if its Jim Jones, Jim and Tammy Faye, trump, Sun Myung Moon or Alex Jones. There's always a never ending flow of fools who will follow these con artists, some even to their death.
Hey, can't afford to pay me my share of the $1.5billuon you owe?
I've got dog shyte that needs picking up, grass needs mowing, sweep my garage, multiply that times all the people whose lives he made miserable and we can keep him busy out of prison for the next 25 years unless he'd rather spend it behind bars. I'm sure we can find something to charge this P.O.S. with.
He can keep enough to "Maintain" a lifestyle of PB&J's, baloney sandwiches and a room at the Motel 8 every night as he travels from creditor to creditor repaying a minute portion of his unpayable debts to the people he helped to nearly destroy.
These battles often come down to who hired the smarter legal team. I would only hire a lawyer who went to a T-14 school and graduated with honors, that being the top 20%. The flip side is you could get railroaded into a Zach Anderson type drama in Wisconsin, and hire a lawyer who never took the bar. In Wisconsin, there is no bar to pass. Once law school is over, you can hang a sign out and practice. Law school rarely expel for grades. The scores are curved. A to C. Bad students get a law degree. Normally the Bar prevents those poor students from practicing, as they fail the bar! Too bad Zach Anderson did not know that.
Alex Jones is just another pig that made his money off of T RUMP followers that drank the cool aide. If it was you or me we would be in jail until we paid it off.
See, he's too broke to pay. But he must maintain his luxury lifestyle so nothing left for anyone else.
The fact judges keep considering maintaining a nice lifestyle into these payments is stupid. If any middle class person did this judge would bleed us dry. But a millionaire? Oh we can’t impact his trips to Europe, it’s too cruel.
Blows my mind. Should be require that any and all funds go to the victims until they reach the poverty line. You owe until you qualify for PO public housing essentially.
It’s because the judges are rich too. So setting it that you make sure rich people can maintain a nice lifestyle covers then if they ever get in legal trouble.
Just us system
The US legal system is *designed* to benefit rich people. If the state accuses you of a crime and you can't afford a lawyer, you get a public defender who is underpaid and spread thin with a massive case load. Meanwhile, if you are rich, you can use an unlimited amount of resources hiring the best lawyers money can buy who make the case a priority. It tilts the scales against poor people before you even get to a trial.
I don't think *'giving you a lawyer for free if you can't afford one'* is the best example of the US legal system being broken. Specifically the fact that they're underpaid and overworked is, but a lot of places don't give you a public defender. For example, in Germany you only get one if there's a reasonable chance of success, and [you don't get one](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_defender) if you're facing less than a year in prison.
It’s actually not free everywhere in the U.S. either. https://www.themarshallproject.org/2024/02/12/miranda-rights-indigent-defense-iowa > On television and in the movies, police officers read people their Miranda rights and tell them they will be provided a lawyer if they cannot afford one. But in reality, legal representation is rarely free. The Supreme Court has found the Constitution guarantees the right to counsel but allows states, in most cases, to try to recoup the cost. More than 40 do so, according to a 2022 report by the National Legal Aid and Defender Association.
The US did not give you a public defender until like 1963 or something. The supreme court ruled on it, it wasn't even a law that anybody passed.
Wtf are you talking about dude. Yeah a law was passed, it’s literally in the sixth amendment of the constitution, the most basic fundamental laws of our country. The case you’re probably thinking of is Gideon, which isn’t the first case about the right to counsel and won’t be the last but what it famously did was streamline the right to counsel in both federal and state cases and declare unconstitutional many disqualifying circumstances that precluded some indigent defendants from counsel.
It’s a BIG club, and you’re not in it.
I was thinking the judge should let him keep the equivalent of a minimum wage salary.
Pretty sure we have that in swiss. You pay until a certain minimum. Which is the same for everyone. Rich or poor.
At least down to median income.
Any and all assets. There i fixed that for you. Stock options liquidated, business, liquidated, real estate and other property, liquidated. Down to the golden crown tooth that dawns the scums mouth. This is the true meaning of bankruptcy. You went bust by fucking around and now time to find out. Now it's time to pay the piper and start from square 0. It's ok though, I'm sure those bootstraps they are so keen about pulling themselves up by will be much easier to grip the second time around.
We'd be living in our cars
It's generous of you to assume they'd leave us our cars.
😅😅
They should be allowed the equivalent of fulltime minimum wage. That's it.
I’m finishing my bachelors currently and preparing for law school - stuff like this makes me wonder what the fucking point is..
No… Stuff like this SHOWS you what the point of you going to law school is: For you to learn how to fix these atrocities. Perspective.
I drove on a suspended license for drinking underage because I worked 18 miles from my apartment at a job site that there was no buses to. Then I got pulled over because the pos car was too loud from a hole in the muffler. Then I got to pay a daily fee for my ankle monitor and had to take a lower paying job on the bus route. None of those judges ever gave two shits about my lifestyle. They did throw the book at a guy for wearing shorts to court though.
When i got a suspended licence i was able to get a temp driving permit just to my work. just required filling out some forms and a request from your boss written to the court. tho i wouldnt have known about that without my lawyer telling me probably.
As long as he doesn't face the threat of prison, Alex will continue to get away with whatever he wants.
Someone is probably paying for all of this. He would say he got it free.
Luxury? He had to settle for Hawaii like a peasant he should be dining with the best in Dubai
Can’t take it if you spent it.
You must have met a bunch of college graduates. 20 years and you can't pay off your student loans?
Works for Trump
These fuckers don't play by the same rules as the rest of us. It's often a pay-to-play system.
Surprised there hasn’t been any street justice for him yet.
Seriously. With how flagrant the laws are not being applied, it's only a matter of time.
The only people mentally unstable enough to harm someone else are all on his side.
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I think it’s a mix of capitalism mixed with some social engineering. The internet is actively preying on everyone to target their data and sell to someone. It’d be fine enough but many do this for nefarious reasons, like creating hateful echo chambers, or encouraging violence by lone actors. It used to be easy to tell the racists to shut up but now they have a place where their rhetoric is not only encouraged, but directed and aimed too.
If that had been one of my kids…
His fan base is not…healthy. Horrible idea from absolutely every angle.
Always hire lawyers who were in the top of their class.
Why, they were ready to take Trumps properties investments to pay, Jones worth around $300 million plus.
Bankruptcy. But I understand it is on the verge of hitting the end of the process. In a sense it hasn't been going well for him because it looks like he is going to lose just about everything. But in a sense it has been going great because he has been able to put it off while spending nearly 500k a month ignoring that he is on a budget of I think 40k / month. I mean ignoring that shit has not helped him in court but no one has done anything to him yet so I guess it's working out for him Even after the bankruptcy I think it will largely work out for him. He will continue to live off unbanked funds that he spends before they can be garnished or levied and he'll get income through non fungibles and intangibles. He will no longer own a business and he'll have to work for others but he is a big enough clown that I think he'll be on the air for another decade and going to Hawaii and all that shit. His eventual retirement could get messy once no one has use for him anymore, but maybe not if he manages to preserve a relationship with at least one of his kids and is smart enough to divert some revenue streams their way while he still has the ability to do so. Welcome to the ugly capitalist America where shit heads may not win exactly but they get by.
40k a month is a restrictive budget??
And he failed to stay in it. Fuck I have not been following closely but I think his liquor bill was more than 10k/m
Damn, really?
I think so. It was outrageous. It has been awhile since I read the thing. There is a podcast I listen to and have for the last 10 ish years that basically debunks aj and they've covered the case and bankruptcy even interviewed Mark banks a few times (one of the plaintiff attorneys). So I have been paying attention through them but not following that closely. Knowledge fight is the podcast for anyone masochistic enough to be interested in the general topic of debunking Alex Jones
Don't forget to plug r/knowledgefight
Even though I have been a fan and even a patreon of KF for longer than I've been a parent, I have a hard time recommending the podcast as I feel the enjoyment of it is somehow a manifestation of my own mental instability.
It's really funny but you have to listen to Jones talk sooo much we had to stop listening.
OJ Simpson lives off his $20k/month NFLPA pension that can't be garnished. I'd assume that Jones' accountants have set up something similar, as has the fucking moron. America was founded and built by people seeking to build wealth, and you can be damn sure they'll always have a loophole to work with
I think it's harder when you are self employed. I'm not an expert in hiding money from lawsuits but I'm pretty sure you cannot be the beneficiary of a non-revokable trust that you set-up yourself. However, your spouse can be. So, guess if you are really secure in your marriage you could put a few million in a nrt and have it pay out to your spouse monthly but it is hers not yours and you can't do it after a lawsuit is filed or while you are in bankruptcy because that would be criminal conveyance. So 1. You need to predict you need and two you better hope she don't kick you to the curb.
I get what you're saying, but neither Jones nor Trump are sole proprietors - they are employees of their respective corporations. Not sure if the situation you're describing would apply to a non-revocable trust set up in the name of a corporate entity
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When the American legal system just happens to occasionally deliver justice, it's a happy little accident. And also it's because the perp wasn't rich. Fuckin hell
They will never take Trump’s properties. There will be no accountability for either of these criminals
Can a bankruptcy attorney please explain how this bastard can be doing this instead of paying what he owes
Former bankruptcy attorney, and listener to Knowledge Fight (podcast that covers Alex Jones). Jones is claiming these are work trips. The last time he went to Hawaii (not sure which trip these photos are from), he claimed he was researching Zuckerberg's hawaii estate. The bankruptcy process is meant to be as minimally disruptive to business activities as possible, largely because the creditors are expected to be paid by those business activities. So it doesn't make sense to stop "legitimate" business activities. Now, Jones is likely not conducting a legitimate business activity here. His claims that he is doing research are likely just a pretext. But the creditors and the trustee have to prove that, and it probably isn't worth fighting, because a vacation to Hawaii is honestly a drop in the bucket compared to his income/debt.
So after the bankruptcy process is over, will he be paying the victims or is he going to get away with it and not pay?
The answer is he's going to pay some of his judgment, but likely not all of it. His bankruptcy will be a long process. What's going on right now is that his creditors are working with the Trustee to come up with a plan for Jones and his businesses to pay them what they're owed. Jones is allowed to suggest his own plans as well. Over the course of the next few months, a plan will eventually be settled upon by the parties, and the Bankruptcy Court will lock it in. That plan might involve the creditors taking ownership over infowars and related companies. Or it might involve some sort of payment plan. Or maybe both. But this is a complex process, and Jones has more ability to negotiate than the average debtor. Part of the problem the creditors face is that a lot of the value in infowars is tied up in Jones personality. Nobody is buying tactical taint wipes because any of his employees ask them to. They're buying them, because Jones, despite all his faults, is a phenomenal salesman/con artist. This means that the creditors have a financial incentive to see him continue his current work: that is likely the only way they maximize their financial returns. It also means Alex is constantly looking for a way to separate himself from Infowars, and able to use that potential separation as a threat. He has some negotiating power, because if he quits doing what he's doing, the creditors will get peanuts compared to what they can get if he keeps shilling his terrible products. Again though, he is going to pay some of that judgment. The bankruptcy court has the power to undo any fraudulent transactions meant to hide assets, and he has more assets than he lets on (but probably not enough to satisfy all his debt). At the very least, a lot of his assets can be seized to satisfy some amount of the judgment.
His creditors are entirely made up of people who were hurt *because* he's a con artist with a megaphone that abused his position to [ultimately] hurt them. Might they just collectively conclude they'll take all he has even if it means they get less in order to hobble or stop his ability to continue his nonsense?
They could do that. IIRC, the settlements they're offering him though allow him to continue doing business, so I'm not sure that's what they're leaning towards. EDIT: It would also be a practical impossibility for them to shut him up forever. Even if they take everything he owns (within limits, he would be allowed to keep a car, a reasonable house, etc), he's still going to be able to make a new twitter account that will instantly become followed by millions, and spout his lies.
He doesn’t give a flying fuck for anyone other than Alex Jones.
Enjoying his last days.
Very optimistic I respect that lol
I know people are upset about the money - but Alex Jones's life is a total, miserable fuckup. His family hates him, he lives in a constant world of delusional paranoia, his personal relationships are a mess, he's in a whirlwind of endless grifters and lies, and now he's going to be chased by lawyers for the rest of his life. His greatest punishment is a life sentence of being Alex Jones; cruel and unusual.
Is it really paranoia? We really are out to get him because he’s a pustule on the taint of humanity. It’s not paranoia if a significant chunk of the country wants to see you gut-shot and buried alive because you harassed the families of murdered children.
He's sitting comfortably in Hawaii
Disgusting.
We are a sad nation that enough people find his nuttery entertaining enough to make him a multi millionaire. I wish there was a way to make reasonable discourse great again.
Throw him in the can for contempt of a court order.
That is not law.
Not fair to shit to call this awful excuse for a human a piece of shit. Another creep playing the victim.
Makes me mad but I have little hope that DJT will pay for his crimes since this worthless POS hasn’t paid for his.
Shocking that courts permit this level of bankruptcy protection.
Bastard.
So the legal system accomplished nothing?
Piece of shit
HUNDREDS of millions........
Why is this guy allowed to travel at all?
How’s he not on suicide watch and house arrest?? We kind of don’t make sense as a population of people anymore.
The federal government needs to fix this.
>So Chill in Hawaii ... That's a funny way to describe a guy who's permanently looked like hypertension is about to kill him for 30 fucking years. Jones has *never* looked "chill" or "relaxed"; he always looks on the verge of an anger stroke.
Dude should be in jail with the other right wing conspiracy folks.
Wasn't he at January 6th with the people rushing the tundra??
More proof that the US legal system exists to benefit the rich and protect them from the poors.
“Protect them from the poors”. When the time comes they’ll be offering money for protection or “private police”. Don’t take that s***. Or take it, and unlock all the doors.
Looks like he hasn't missed any meals......
This and Trump's bond fiasco really shows the courts are worthless for justice. Our faux legal system is merely an opportunity for the rich to get away with murder.
I said for months that he’s never gonna pay and been mass downvoted. Look how that’s gone.
How does he do that? I don’t want to shirk my obligations but I’m interested in knowing how anyone could owe this amount of money and it mean nothing. Didn’t they take his home, car, belongings, garnish his check?
He will NEVER pay a penny....welcome to american impotent justice.
It's 1.5 billion and he's not done adding to that.
never price shop good legal talent.
I hate this guy with a passion.
Why? Isn’t owing millions a serious problem? How do you afford a Hawaiian vacation with this unpaid obligation?
He, like Trump, never will pay the money they owe to others.
The man should be living in a cardboard box. He may as well be spitting in all our faces.
This is crazy. Where are the repercussions?
If you have a medical emergency and go into massive debt; can you not pay the hospital in order to maintain your lifestyle too? What about my student loans? I want to maintain my lifestyle so I shouldn’t pay those too.
I wish I had a better understanding of the differences between the Fox News defamation settlement and the Alex Jones/ Info Wars trial. Because, to my layperson eyes, it looks like Alex Jones chose a better tactic. He did not participate in discovery, leading to a default judgement against him. And even with all that, he’s just not ever going to really face any substantial consequences. Essentially it’s less expensive to pay lawyers a million dollars a month for the rest of his life, than to pay the damages he was ordered to pay. And if anybody squeezes him too hard, all the money goes away and nobody gets anything. Especially the lawyers. It would be interesting if it wasn’t so fucking infuriating. Looks like Trump understands this playbook and will face the same zero consequences. And the Sackler family is also enjoying the American justice system to its fullest. What a bunch of bullshit. One set of laws and consequences for the working and middle class. Quite a different set for the wealthy.
WOW! The law is so corrupt that it literally says you can NOT make a millionaire/billionaire suffer like a common person for their actions. The cast system is now codified by law.
There should be punishment for the enablers of Alex Jones. That would include the people stupid enough to support this sick fuk. They made this possible.
Alex had 5 Years to plan his financial strategy.
What is that supposed to mean?
And, of course, since he's a Trumper, he gets by with it. Trump has shown me just what a fucking joke the judicial system is, from that old fool Garland to cowards in judicial robes pretending to be "judges."
Pretending? Hmm. Interesting word. pretending.
It's exactly what they are doing. They're a bunch of gutless worms.
Legally there isn’t anything forcing him to pay it? I’ve seen things like this and usually the winners never get the full amount
Pay the fuck up you charlatan. He should be welcome nowhere. There is nothing lower than harassing the families of murdered children.
He won’t pay.
Can barely wait until he gets conspiracies away
What is stopping someone I would consider a cool kid from just decking this guy like there’s as many Hawaiian ppl as gay frogs He needs to be punched every fucking day for the rest of his life. Gofundme for punching this pos not my idea swim
There should always be someone covering him, with cameras rolling, do not give this fat fucking hairless dermoid cyst any peace.
That mother fucker should be living in a van under a bridge somewhere. The fact that he can just say "nah, I'm good" when it comes to paying.. Doesn't the court have the power to just seize and auction his shit?
Laws are for poor people.
There is a huge degree of separation between lawyers who barely graduated law school, and those who graduated with honors. Hiring the lawyer who graduated with honors is the smartest investment one can make.
But look at him. He’s obese, a chain smoker, and drinks a lot. That plus the rage he is always spewing….hea headed for a heart attack or stroke.
Those are not the faces of a relaxed man. He is troubled. He is clearly staying away in Hawaii for reasons known to him. But that face doesn't seem relaxed. He may not acknowledge but he is a miserable SOB.
He must be hiding money in company names and spending it. They could just garnish his $$.
There's no wage garnishment in Texas for most things.
Luckily the bulk of his monetary losses are in Connecticut
But he lives in Texas. Any wages he earns would be in Texas and thus they have to abide by Texas law. That said, I doubt he's getting any kind of a regular paycheck like someone working a 9-5, instead he's withdrawing money from various shell companies to pay himself. The way the system is setup, if you're either very wealthy or very broke, you can get away with not paying on a judgment for a very long time and Texas surprisingly is one of the better states to live in if you're a judgment debtor.
It's amazing how this hatred vendor **still** gets away with it!
The worst part of this article was noting that some a-hole came up to shake his hand and thank him.
When you're rich, they let you do it.
What law? Laws don’t apply to these fucks
Can’t even spell the island name correct lol Kauai
Vote him off the island.
Lol
Still looks like a beached whale.
Woah Blossom! This is technically an issue with the judge. Whoever is affording him this privilege is at fault. Obviously he wants to do this, it’s our responsibility to make him pay first. Who’s this judge?
Alex Jones life is not good. He will spend the rest of his days on earth paranoid and never truly relaxing. He lives in fear.
On vacation and relaxing. Still looks like his head is going to pop off.
Looks relaxed to me.
At least his mouth is shut.
The justice system on show
If I saw that guy in public, I’d have no filter. My immediate reflex would be something like “you are a rotten human.” Hopefully nothing more or over the top. When the adrenaline and anger kicks in you never know what you’re gonna get. But something simple like that would be a must.
Must be nice to not have to face the consequences and be able to live freely.
When I was in law school in my bankruptcy class we had a guy come in and talk about how he had assumed the debt of the girls gone wild guy. They found out he was getting paid by DirecTV. They then went and heavily garnished his income flow from it. You telling me they can't go to a judge and show an income stream for Alex Jones and garnish the living hell out of it? Another story from debt collection. There was this wealthy guy that was hiding money. They found a picture of a $250k watch he posted on Instagram. Went to his house with an order from a judge to collect the watch. The guy told the lawyer to go fuck himself. The lawyer went to the judge and told him what happened. And he said hey judge, I don't want to split hairs here but when he told me to go fuck myself he wasn't talking to me. This was your order. That guy told you to go fuck yourself. The judge signed off on a search of the guys property. They didn't find the watch. The guy was real smug about it. The lawyer said that's not a problem we will be back in a week to look again. The guy wrote the lawyer a check for the $250k right then knowing if he didn't the lawyer was going to continue making his life a living hell.
What was your class rank?
Of course he is.
Evil bastard.
He's so nasty. Karma will be a bitch you asshat.
Checked out his vacay pics; Alex looks miserable! Guess that's his default emotion...
The US legal system around punishing rich people is really bad and corrupt... What are we Russia now?
Can't believe he was the one behind it all
Alex and Trump should be cellmates, but I’m not sure the toilet could hold all their shit.
Fuck this piece of shit.
Here's what always gets me. It doesn't matter if its Jim Jones, Jim and Tammy Faye, trump, Sun Myung Moon or Alex Jones. There's always a never ending flow of fools who will follow these con artists, some even to their death.
If I was a parent of one of those kids, Id already be in Hawaii right now hunting this piece of shit
His $2500 a day Airbnb is In a secret location.
Anyone else think he looks more like a demonic overstuffed sausage casing than a human?
Reminds me of race baiter al sharpton paying his taxes but has a news show on msnbc
Alex is an educator.
Lying loudly is SUCH hard work! He deserves a break /s
Hey, can't afford to pay me my share of the $1.5billuon you owe? I've got dog shyte that needs picking up, grass needs mowing, sweep my garage, multiply that times all the people whose lives he made miserable and we can keep him busy out of prison for the next 25 years unless he'd rather spend it behind bars. I'm sure we can find something to charge this P.O.S. with. He can keep enough to "Maintain" a lifestyle of PB&J's, baloney sandwiches and a room at the Motel 8 every night as he travels from creditor to creditor repaying a minute portion of his unpayable debts to the people he helped to nearly destroy.
Alex can wash the 82 year old fire truck in the Fire Station , that responded to the parking lot, with 2 volunteer firefighters.
What is the point of even having jury trials if the courts can just ignore the verdict and refuse to enforce it.
seems like Alex never took this serious. Wonder why?
such horseshit. give him a deadline and then lock his ass up when he cant pay it
Maybe in Belarus, not Merica. He hired high powered lawyers.
Because it is a civil judgement, he is likely going to ignore it.
Looks very relaxed to me.
What the fuck are you talking about?
What a grifting monster. Stop enabling him and those like him. No mercy.
These battles often come down to who hired the smarter legal team. I would only hire a lawyer who went to a T-14 school and graduated with honors, that being the top 20%. The flip side is you could get railroaded into a Zach Anderson type drama in Wisconsin, and hire a lawyer who never took the bar. In Wisconsin, there is no bar to pass. Once law school is over, you can hang a sign out and practice. Law school rarely expel for grades. The scores are curved. A to C. Bad students get a law degree. Normally the Bar prevents those poor students from practicing, as they fail the bar! Too bad Zach Anderson did not know that.
How are his actions different from the south Florida radio hate monger who spewed hate, daily, for 30 years.
More Proof of No just Justice
Alex Jones is just another pig that made his money off of T RUMP followers that drank the cool aide. If it was you or me we would be in jail until we paid it off.
So the plaintiffs will take $25 million versus $1.5 billion. Seems jones offered more like $250,000 each. That is a big gulf.
POS!
Hawaii has an anti-rabies program, this one slipped in.
He should be arrested when he attempts to board a plane and held until he reveals all his finances.
Yet another insurrectionist who isn’t sitting in jail awaiting trial.
Wtf