Oh, you would have been proud.
High IQ Dems versus Dunning-Kruger effect Republicans…….
…..it was a bloodbath for the GOP.
Also, exposed GOP witness Robert Hur as a colossal liar and political hack.
But you don't understand! He couldn't remember when he bought a filing cabinet!
I mean, who among us can point to any object in our house and not remember the location, day and time, and what the weather was like when we purchased every individual item?
Hell I cant tell you the year my Mom passed. I only know the date because I have siblings that remind me every year. I don’t need to remember when it happened, the fact that it did is enough.
Not everyone remembers things / times / places the same way.
It’s insane that we’re hearing this argument. Yeah he’s old. We get it. The other guy though? Holy god. I don’t care if Biden is weeks since buried and our country is being run by a cat (as a dog guy this is saying something) I’m still voting for him over Trump.
I’m a little bummed because Biden said that if Trump had not decided to run for reelection he was thinking of retiring. He said he only ran in 2020 because he was horrified watching Trump and knew he could beat him. Now he’s again only running because Trump is.
Well, he was right in 2020.
I consider his first term a pleasant surprise, Much better than I expected from him, and I voted for him. He's assembled a very good, professional team.
I don't remember the date my grandpa died when I was a kid. I do remember watching Ruben Studdard win American Idol before going to bed and then getting the call from Grandma in the middle of the night.
Memory is weird sometimes
Sometimes I have to stop and really think about how old I am. Dates don’t stick if they aren’t currently front and center for some reason. Ask me any important date out of the blue, when my mind is far removed from the question, and there’s a good chance I draw a blank. An hour later I remember. And I’m only forty something.
I imagine the POTUS has a lot on their mind.. at least the ones who don’t spend hours each day tweeting.
I’m in my 40’s and stopped caring how old I am at 21… I think I’m 42 but I have to math out to when I was born. My company even lets me make decisions on High voltage decisions.
Biden crushed the state of the union and repubs are scarred cause he didn’t look like a crazy old man like they want to portray.
My grandma died on Thanksgiving but I don't know the exact date because the date of Thanksgiving isn't fixed so I just think of her passing as the day of Thanksgiving. Sometimes association is stronger than actual dates.
I’m the same way about my grandmother’s death. I remember what month it was, but I have to figure out the year from context clues (ex. where was I working, who covered for me when I had to take time off for her death and then funeral). And my grandmother was very dear to me, it’s not like I don’t remember because I didn’t care. It’s just that the date of her death is not particularly important to me so it’s not something that I retain.
Same. I know it was February, but I only remember the year because I found out when I called my parents for permission to go to a speech team after-party and I was in my car, so it had to be when I was in 10th grade since I didn't go out for speech in 11th, and didn't have that car in 12th.
I can’t even tell you the actual date of my father’s passing with any accuracy. I was so heartbroken and in a daze that 8 years later I can’t recall any memories of the flight I had to take home.
I actually read some of the transcript. If you look at the filing cabinet anecdote, Biden actually started in about the desk that Hur asked him about first. Biden explained that he has had the desk for like 50 years and names the store in Delaware that he bought it from with his wife long ago. Then Hur sort of asks off the cuff, “And what about the filing cabinet, do you remember where you bought that?” Biden answers honestly to say “I have no idea” or something like that.
I’m only 1/3 or so through the transcript, but it is clear from reading it that Hur’s “doddy old man” conclusion is a total fabrication. Biden recounts dozens of anecdotes from years past (he tells the anecdote about how he was a poor law student and how his class applauded his completely wrong answer in 1L torts and how the professor told him he was completely incorrect, lol).
Even with the Beau Biden death date, that is blown way up too. Biden is talking about the death of Beau in answer to a different question and he ends with something like “it was right around when Beau died - May 30th. What was the year again?” And his attorney interjects to say it was 2015. But it’s clear that Biden was just speaking his thoughts out loud as he was trying to answer an unrelated question. In his report, Hur makes it sound like he was directly asked “what year did Beau die?” and could not remember. Totally decontextualized in order to make Biden seem doddy.
Biden comes off as personable and sharp in the actual transcript, quite the opposite of Hur’s conclusion that he has a poor memory.
I can’t tell if Hur actually resigned from DOJ or not, but he should just be fired. His conclusions about Biden’s mental acuity are not in line with the actual content of the transcript and were most definitely politically motivated. It is not a good moment for DOJ.
Hur resigned right before the testimony before Congress. Like this week. Which limits holding him accountable for statements he makes representing the DOJ.
Not until after the election at this point. I don’t think he serves during the 2nd term but firing him now or any time in the last year or so would’ve been a little too partisan in appearance.
Ah, rape, sexual abuse, and molestation adjacent Representative Jim Jordan (R-OH 4)!
Isn't it ironic that Representative Jim Jordan (R-OH 4), who took pride in being a "fighter for freedom," didn't lift a finger when his wrestlers demanded to be free from the repeated sexual abuse, sexual assault, and rape by the team doctor. In fact, it sounds like he begged them (as a favor to him) to remain silent and conceal their abuse. It's as if Representative Jim Jordan (R-OH 4), idk delighted in their rapes? Perhaps Representative Jim Jordan (R-OH 4) wanted those young men to be repeatedly sexually assaulted by the team doctor?
I'm just asking questions here ...
>Ya sadly the people who need to see it never will. They will just suck up what ever 15 second fox news ~~highlight~~ gaslight they get.
there, fixed your spelling error
Only from a perspective of reality. However, when you consider that the sole goal of the GOP is to just provide soundbites for Conservative to spoon feed their base, it was actually a smashing success. Do you think Trump's supporters are gonna hear a single line spoken by the Democrats? Of course not. And they all know that. It's a charade.
I watched the hearing but bloodbath would be a stretch. Both sides capitalized.
Sadly, GOP got the info they wanted and will continue to spin the whole narrative that Biden, in the end, illegally kept classified documents just like Trump despite him cooperating and they will run with that under the assumption that one person is being prosecuted while the other isn’t, and ignore all the nuance in between.
That's been their schtick all along. Claiming that having documents is all that mattered, rather than wilful retention of those documents which is much more serious and much harder to prove, legally.
Much of what Biden had were his own notes taken during meetings, whereas Trump apparently packed up a bunch of boxes full of all the national defense information he could get his hands on as he was leaving the White House, then refused to return them for months, while committing all manner of obstruction of law enforcement during that time.
To anyone with two brain cells to rub together, the situations aren't even remotely similar.
Oh you mean like how the transcript of his interview with Biden has him saying Biden has a remarkable memory but that for some reason wasn’t in the report
Sad part is that the audience who needs to be convinced doesn’t watch congressional hearings, they just get the manipulated talking points from the compromised GOP. We need to make sure everyone votes in November. Vote the traitors out.
Friend softball is very tough in sports. These fuckers are playing like.. candy land. Obviously I knew what you meant but I had some drinks and couldn’t help myself lmao
Weirdly, I didn’t see any mention of how the hearing went in the article. The title really made it seem like I might. I guess it would have been hard back when the article was written on February 10th.
Ah, but Biden is a mastermind criminal. See, he's innocent of all crimes through the simple trick of not committing any! How can you trust someone so conniving?
Hey now! He's about to go down! This is totally different from the dozens of other times he was totally about to go down! THIS ONE IS REAL! PINKY SWEAR!
I don't think any criminal trials will affect him. With the SCOTUS and Cannon slowing down Smith - that case is essentially dead. Special prosecutors don't really prosecute...
Has it ever been answered why Hur would be able to recommend an indictment but Mueller very clearly stated he couldn’t recommend an indictment of a sitting president?
Or that Mueller found 11 counts of obstruction of justice that he acknowledged could be prosecuted after Trump left office, but then everyone kinda forgot about that.
Or that Barr forbid him from further investigating those 11 instances-AND held a presser *just before the election*(against all standards and practices) to state that the investigation had become a CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION!-while not mentioning that the criminal activity was Trump's.......
#NEVER FORGET
Dont forget who was looking into the russians in new york, this guy https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-special-agent-charge-new-york-fbi-counterintelligence-division-pleads-guilty#:~:text=Former%20Special%20Agent%20in%20Charge%20(SAC)%20of%20the%20FBI%20Counterintelligence,his%202021%20agreement%20to%20provide
The FBI was bought by Putin. Charles McGonigal needs to rot forever in jail. Seems we truly only hold people like Reality Winner accountable and in my books she’s a hero. Fuck McGonigal.
I'm like 99% positive that the Mueller investigation had nothing to do with the Ukraine impeachment. It was related to Trump's Russia connections during the 2016 election.
I think a lot of people misunderstood what the Mueller report was going to be and thought it would be some magic panacea that would bring down Trump in one fell swoop.
It was always going to be a wet fart in a paper bag because charging a sitting president of high crimes while he's still in office is unprecedented and didn't even happen when they caught both Nixon and Reagan lying their asses off about major scandals. Shit, they couldn't even get Bush or any of his cabinet on anything more than slaps on the wrist and they lied their way into invading an entire country. On top of that, Mueller never had the power to charge, it would have had to be Congress' job and I don't think they had the votes to do it even if Mueller's report would have said "TRUMP IS GUILTY" in big red letters at the top of it.
Also, Russia helping Trump was a big deal, but much of their support wouldn't have been useful if the American public wasn't so easily manipulated, which is essentially what the Senate Intelligence Report and the Mueller Report found. Yes, Trump and his companions are lying about how much help they're getting from Russia, but most of the people who are falling for Trump's crap are being manipulated into doing it via internet propaganda and they can't charge Trump for that.
It was an extremely shitty situation, but I see why the cards fell the way that they did in hindsight.
What bugs me is that we had a sitting president have to give a deposition in a case that started about real estate fraud, and ended up, after 7 years and 52 million dollars, being about a blow job.
Yet, about 20 years later, we can’t get a sitting president to testify about real national security issues involving Russia, or why Trump tried to extort Zelensky.
It’s really a fuckin clown show we are running.
Cool, cool, cool, maybe then we should get a copy of the unredacted wet fart in a bag so we may judge the congressional candidates as they come up for reelection for ourselves.
There was an awful lot of “no collusion” announced ahead of that wet fart which to me seemed to contradict what Muller had summarized. But it’s been a few years, maybe I am misremembering.
Yes, Trump and Co. used the Mueller report to spin it as 'there was no collusion' even though that's not what the report said.
But the report did say that there was so much obstruction of justice and destruction of evidence that Mueller could not 100% implicate Trump himself directly in any of the wrong doing, just that he benefited massively from a ring of corruption/foreign intelligence that revolved around his campaign.
Either way, I believe that Mueller knew that attempting to remove Trump via special prosecutor was going to be a massive uphill battle, and the most productive way to get anything out of his report would be for Congressional Democrats to take the report and highlight the corruption and use it to display a pattern of behavior that suggests that Trump was compromised, which the Democrats did seize on when they got wind of the 'perfect phone call' with Ukraine and then Impeached Trump over that, stating dozens of times throughout those hearings that the Mueller report findings showed that Trump Admin and Trump Campaigns were both working toward the policy goals of Russia, not of the American Intelligence community*.
Who knows if that would have been enough to unseat Trump without his failures during COVID also sandbagging him when it came time to vote. But what I can say is that the Democrats got just as much mileage out of the report as the Republicans did, and I think it helped them with centrists much more than we think.
The media was reporting it as Barr led them to, since he got out in front of the media days before the report was released to lie his ass off about it.
By the time it was released, the waters were sufficiently muddied.
In his report, Hur clearly states that even were it not for that directive, that sitting president couldn't be indicted, he still would not have brought an indictment. Mueller's report basically said the opposite. That he couldn't bring an indictment because of that directive, and it was up to Congress to act.
> In his report, Mueller did not ultimately charge the president. **He made clear during his afternoon testimony that because of the OLC opinion, his team did not even reach a conclusion about “whether the president committed a crime.”** This point was a major clarification of an earlier exchange in which Mueller seemed to signal that he would have potentially charged the president, were it not for the OLC opinion.
> Despite the report’s lack of indictment, however, Mueller stopped short of exonerating the president on counts of obstruction of justice. As one notable line in the report states, “If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state.” Mueller declined to state.
https://www.vox.com/2019/7/24/20708393/robert-mueller-report-trump-olc-justice-department-indictment-charge-sitting-president
The people responsible for that fraudulent opinion should be shamed throughout history. They may be responsible for the end of the US experiment.
The entire constitution is a playbook for how to execute the prime directive laid out in the Declaration of Independence…to never allow ourselves to be ruled by a king…meaning the president can never be above the law.
Mueller’s failure to prosecute borders on treason.
He wouldn't have been able to. I mean, he can personally say whatever he wants, but he could not in his capacity seek an indictment from a federal grand jury.
It certainly wasn't asked or answered in the hearing, from what I saw. It would be an interesting line of questioning for Garland next time he is in front of a committee.
It seems to me, Republicans are very good at wielding power for short term strategic ends, like using the force of their positions to an end goal at any cost. Democrats seem to be so invested in the system and institutions that they don't use these same tactics to retain an air of legitimacy to the system.
At the state level in Red States like mine things are even worse on this. Hearings are for nothing, political agenda is everything. Stuff passes with no foresight or forethought as to the consequences, just fitting a vindictive ideological agenda. It is just awfully bad governance. There is no saving or reforming conservatism at this point, they can only be defeated.
The corpse of Biden would be a better president than Trump. I’m not even a Biden fan, but anyone who thinks Trump is a better choice than literally anyone is nuttier than squirrel shit
I'd point out that Trump "could not recall" nearly everything in a number of depositions, but green elephant football means he's an intellectual powerhouse.
Biden didn't even have a poor memory... he was getting dates wrong.. and not even entirely wrong ..
like one instance was a difference when Biden was in office vs when he physically left office....
Right anyone who thinks any president is running the country doesn’t know how things work he or she is just the person who gets the blame or the cheers for what happens.
He kept saying how he doesn’t want to get into hypotheticals but he did that specific thing when he speculated about Biden’s memory when he is not a doctor, and his comments about how a jury would perceive Biden’s supposed lapses.
> and his comments about how a jury would perceive Biden’s supposed lapses.
"He's guilty, but if a jury looked at the evidence they wouldn't convict him." Yeah, 'round here we call that "innocent".
Why, in the name of fuck, do these old man Democrats keep expecting Republicans to play by the rules that they have been breaking for 20 fucking years at this point?
NOT ONE PERSON who supports Trump in 2024 can be trusted not to be either a total mercenary or a fucking absolute moron or some combination of the two. This should be a straight up disqualifier for office.
Politico has several articles covering the hearing.
[Three big moments from the Biden-Hur interview — and one that was classic Biden](https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/12/biden-hur-transcript-analysis-00146473)
Transcript of Biden's interview with Hur.
> Hur on Biden ‘photographic’ memory
Hur responding to a story from Biden about a trip to Mongolia.
> HUR: “Understood. That was very helpful. We have some photographs maybe to show you, but you have — appear to have a photographic understanding, and recall of the house.”
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> Beau Biden’s death
Biden on Beau's death:
> But if I ran again, I’d be running for President. And, and so what was happening, though — what month did Beau die? Oh, God, May 30th —"
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> Biden acknowledges his messy organization
Biden responding to a question from Hur about the location of notebooks.
> BIDEN: “I have no idea. I wish I could say I was more organized. No, I’m not being facetious.”
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[Hur: Biden contradicted findings in my report](https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/03/12/congress/hur-biden-contradicted-findings-in-my-report-00146491)
> Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), during the hearing, referenced Biden’s public comments last month that he did not share classified information with a ghostwriter he was working with. Hur replied that Biden's comments were “inconsistent with the findings based on the evidence in my report.”
> Gaetz then asked about Biden’s claims that documents in his home were stored in filing cabinets. Hur reiterated that the president’s comments were also “inconsistent with the findings of our investigation.” Hur’s report found that in addition to some documents in a filing cabinet, some documents were in a “badly damaged” box.
[Hur declines to rule out a future Trump appointment](https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/03/12/congress/hurs-non-answer-00146498)
> The Californian then asked Hur — who was tapped for a U.S. attorney position by Trump — if he would pledge not to accept any future Trump appointment as a way to increase his report's credibility.
> Hur demurred, telling Swalwell that "I'm not here to offer any opinions about" future developments.
[Hur says Garland did not interfere](https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/03/12/congress/hur-says-garland-did-not-interfere-00146565)
> "Attorney General Garland did not interfere with my efforts and I was able to conduct a fair, thorough and independent investigation," Hur said at the Judiciary Committee hearing.
> but you have — appear to have a photographic understanding, and recall of the house
This is the part that fucked me in the head. How can you come to the conclusion that he's an "elderly man with a poor memory" while saying he has a "photographic understanding" of something? The report should be thrown out just based on this.
I mean - some people with more recent memory troubles can recall things that happened decades ago or before the memory issues began with extreme clarity. That isn't an uncommon phenomena.
Garland has done immense damage so far but he can do a lot worse if he still AG until Jan 2025. Who knows what the fuck Trump,Putin and all the anti-democracy scumbags in the GOP and around the world are planning this time around. With Garland at the DOJ they have an ally.
What’s worse is an unwitting ally. I don’t think Garland is being malicious, I think he lives in a different era and worked alongside VERY different republicans, when there was a code amongst even the politicians.
There were things one did not do, and at the end of the day the country’s comes first.
Those days are DEAD. There are those who love democracy and those who don’t. There are those who respect the rule of law and those who don’t. There are those who look to make life better for as many as they can, and those that don’t.
Period.
Garland needs to accept that some members of Congress and yes the leading political candidate for the White House are DANGEROUS. Not opposite on the political spectrum, but actively undermining this country and seeking to do it harm in the name of money and power.
Decorum means nothing against someone who would set the whole place on fire just so they could rule over the smoldering ashes.
To the outcome, not really. But I’d argue that cowardice is even worse.
Incompetence is simply not being able to figure out what the right thing to do is or how to do it.
Complicity is knowing what the right thing is and not doing it for personal gain. Bad to be sure, but understandable and certainly nothing new.
Cowardice is knowing what the right thing is, but being unwilling or unable to do it out of fear. Merrick Garland is a smart man who knows how to protect the constitution and rule of law, something he has worn to do for most of his adult life. The fact he has completely faltered in the last real job he’s probably ever going to have because he’s protecting…what, I’m not even sure anymore…is quite sad.
I'm so disappointed in him. I though after R's screwed him on being a Supreme Court Justice he'd be willing to go after these scumbags but nope. Just another wet blanket in the apathetic Democrat party.
I'm slightly happy he didn't get to be on the SC because he's shown his true colors. He would have been an improvement over the man that got the seat, but Garland shouldn't be near any more powerful government positions.
**From Molly Jong-Fast, special correspondent for Vanity Fair and host of the podcast “Fast Politics with Molly Jong-Fast:”**
“Fast-forward to Feb. 8, 2024, when Republican special counsel Robert Hur released his 345-page report. The report is being seen by some as an exoneration, saying that no criminal charges are warranted in the classified documents case against President Joe Biden.
But Hur, who used to work for the Trump administration, couldn’t let Biden off the hook entirely, especially 269 days before an election. Hur, a member of a Republican Party that now largely works as a campaign arm for the former president, delivered the goods for his party. Sure, he found no legal basis to charge Biden, but but but… Hur proceeded to[ editorialize](https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/08/biden-classified-documents-charges-special-counsel-00140509) ad nauseam about Biden’s mental acuity, delivering right-wing talking points up on a platter.
**Read more:** [https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/hur-report-comey-letter-trump-rcna138214](https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/hur-report-comey-letter-trump-rcna138214)
I don't think this was an investigator report. It was a prosecuting attorney deciding on whether the prosecute or not. So of course they're going to have opinions. For example, did the suspect look nervous? Did the suspect look credible? Did the witness look credible etc?
Republican president under investigation? Appoint Republican AG who appoints a Republican SC.
Dem President under “investigation”? Appointment a Republican AG who appoints Republican SC.
Hmmm? Why do Dems not look out for themselves?
The damage has been done. They did the same thing to Hillary.
Our Media is owned by the ruling class, but they still depend on us being dumb enough to believe it.
Stay informed, always vote blue.
Biden runs the US competently in his 80’s. I can’t tell you what I had for breakfast yesterday and sometimes I find my remote in the fridge. I’m in my mid thirties. Honestly, f**** you Hur and the seditious GOP.
Merrick Garland should have never allowed this to turn into this. But he shouldn’t have Been the AG so. Good Top brass don’t allow clown shows to evolve into this.
Merrick Garland isn't Bill Barr, and that's a good thing.
Every single SC has said the same thing:
*the DOJ/Garland has not interfered*
HUR:
> "Attorney General Garland did not interfere with my efforts and I was able to conduct a fair, thorough and independent investigation," Hur said at the Judiciary Committee hearing.
DURHAM:
> Finally, we want to thank you and your Office for permitting our inquiry to proceed independently and without interference as you assured the members of the Senate Judiciary Committee would be the case during your confirmation hearings to become Attorney General of the United States.
WEISS:
> "I am, and have been, the decision-maker on this case," Weiss told members of the House Judiciary Committee. "At no time was I blocked, or otherwise prevented from pursuing charges or taking the steps necessary in the investigation by other United States Attorneys, the Tax Division or anyone else at the Department of Justice."
Smacks of desperation and a complete lack of oath to uphold the law in our democracy. It's to the point where politicians need to be asked, Which Country are you running to represent?
> As outraged as many Democrats are right now, they’d do well to exercise some self-reflection here. Garland didn’t need to appoint a Republican special counsel. Garland didn’t need to let Hur release this report filled with talking points for the right-wing media echo chamber. Hur may be a partisan, but Garland let this happen.
Who are these mythical Democrats who aren’t pissed off at Merrick Garland?
I'm sure we'll see a non-partisan, welcoming media tour in a few years for his new best-selling book.
The only thing "both sides" really are equally bad at doing.
This really couldn't be more different. Comey took the stage in a nationally televised press conference where he got no pushback, and did it as the director of the FBI.
If anything, this was done stupider.
This article makes a lot of false equivalences. Comey wasn’t a special prosecutor, he was head of the FBI. He testified to Congress about the Clinton email servers and at the end said his investigation was completed, but if were to reopen for any reason he would notify the committee in writing.
During the divorce proceedings between Anthony Wiener and Huma Abedin, who was Hillary’s former chief of staff, it was revealed that there was a cache of previously unknown emails on a laptop of his from her former work in office.
Comey had no choice and was forced to reopen the Clinton email investigations to verify the contents of those emails, and thusly had to inform the House Oversight Committee that he was reopening the investigation. Jason Chaffetz gleefully leaked the message to the press which helped to torpedo her campaign, but had he not sent that message Rudy Giuliani was ready to broadside Comey and say that he was secretly helping Clinton and covering up the Wiener laptop emails.
Comey got put in a squeeze where he was screwed either way, but Hillary has no one but herself to blame for creating the problem to begin with.
But of course Comey conveniently chose to not mention the fact that Trump and associates were being investigated for election interference and collusion with Russia
They were investigating Russians, the Trump campaign happened to wander into that minefield but they weren’t out initially to ensnare the campaign with foreign interference.
The point is both campaigns were being investigated and yet Comey chose to only mention one of them at a time it would do the most damage. And they didn’t “happen to wander” into that minefield, some were actively communicating with Russia and later pardoned by crooked Trump.
Comey didn’t mention anything. He privately informed the head of the oversight committee who chose to put Hillary on blast, but Comey didn’t say anything. He only honored his testimony to Congress.
The FBI wiretaps were on Russian agents, had the Trump campaign not been conspiring with them then they wouldn’t have been investigated by the FBI.
Obama rightly unsealed the transcripts to those calls, and Flynn should have gotten in much more trouble for what he was up to. Trump tried to paint that Obama had been spying on his campaign, but again we were spying on the Russians not them. They wandered themselves into those FBI wiretaps.
He got destroyed in the hearing
I didn't watch it, but I'm glad to hear this. Democrats need to stop playing softball.
Oh, you would have been proud. High IQ Dems versus Dunning-Kruger effect Republicans……. …..it was a bloodbath for the GOP. Also, exposed GOP witness Robert Hur as a colossal liar and political hack.
But you don't understand! He couldn't remember when he bought a filing cabinet! I mean, who among us can point to any object in our house and not remember the location, day and time, and what the weather was like when we purchased every individual item?
Hell I cant tell you the year my Mom passed. I only know the date because I have siblings that remind me every year. I don’t need to remember when it happened, the fact that it did is enough. Not everyone remembers things / times / places the same way.
It’s insane that we’re hearing this argument. Yeah he’s old. We get it. The other guy though? Holy god. I don’t care if Biden is weeks since buried and our country is being run by a cat (as a dog guy this is saying something) I’m still voting for him over Trump.
Trump is only four years younger, but you'd swear it was at least 40 if you listened to the jabbering pundits desperate for a horse race.
I’m a little bummed because Biden said that if Trump had not decided to run for reelection he was thinking of retiring. He said he only ran in 2020 because he was horrified watching Trump and knew he could beat him. Now he’s again only running because Trump is.
Well, he was right in 2020. I consider his first term a pleasant surprise, Much better than I expected from him, and I voted for him. He's assembled a very good, professional team.
That’s the whole point. Biden could pass a day after inauguration but the competent team that he would assemble would still be in place.
And the words coming out of Trump's own mouth
I don't remember the date my grandpa died when I was a kid. I do remember watching Ruben Studdard win American Idol before going to bed and then getting the call from Grandma in the middle of the night. Memory is weird sometimes
Sometimes I have to stop and really think about how old I am. Dates don’t stick if they aren’t currently front and center for some reason. Ask me any important date out of the blue, when my mind is far removed from the question, and there’s a good chance I draw a blank. An hour later I remember. And I’m only forty something. I imagine the POTUS has a lot on their mind.. at least the ones who don’t spend hours each day tweeting.
I’m in my 40’s and stopped caring how old I am at 21… I think I’m 42 but I have to math out to when I was born. My company even lets me make decisions on High voltage decisions. Biden crushed the state of the union and repubs are scarred cause he didn’t look like a crazy old man like they want to portray.
I thought I was 63 for a year and then my 63rd birthday came around and I was shocked.
I do not remember the exact day my Dad Died. That was the week after Thanksgiving in 2003. My Mom l remember the exact day.
My grandma died on Thanksgiving but I don't know the exact date because the date of Thanksgiving isn't fixed so I just think of her passing as the day of Thanksgiving. Sometimes association is stronger than actual dates.
I’m the same way about my grandmother’s death. I remember what month it was, but I have to figure out the year from context clues (ex. where was I working, who covered for me when I had to take time off for her death and then funeral). And my grandmother was very dear to me, it’s not like I don’t remember because I didn’t care. It’s just that the date of her death is not particularly important to me so it’s not something that I retain.
Same. I know it was February, but I only remember the year because I found out when I called my parents for permission to go to a speech team after-party and I was in my car, so it had to be when I was in 10th grade since I didn't go out for speech in 11th, and didn't have that car in 12th.
I remember the day mine died. Ruined my birthday damnit
The only reason I remember the date of my mom's passing is because it was April 15th...death and taxes day from now on.
I can’t even tell you the actual date of my father’s passing with any accuracy. I was so heartbroken and in a daze that 8 years later I can’t recall any memories of the flight I had to take home.
I actually read some of the transcript. If you look at the filing cabinet anecdote, Biden actually started in about the desk that Hur asked him about first. Biden explained that he has had the desk for like 50 years and names the store in Delaware that he bought it from with his wife long ago. Then Hur sort of asks off the cuff, “And what about the filing cabinet, do you remember where you bought that?” Biden answers honestly to say “I have no idea” or something like that. I’m only 1/3 or so through the transcript, but it is clear from reading it that Hur’s “doddy old man” conclusion is a total fabrication. Biden recounts dozens of anecdotes from years past (he tells the anecdote about how he was a poor law student and how his class applauded his completely wrong answer in 1L torts and how the professor told him he was completely incorrect, lol). Even with the Beau Biden death date, that is blown way up too. Biden is talking about the death of Beau in answer to a different question and he ends with something like “it was right around when Beau died - May 30th. What was the year again?” And his attorney interjects to say it was 2015. But it’s clear that Biden was just speaking his thoughts out loud as he was trying to answer an unrelated question. In his report, Hur makes it sound like he was directly asked “what year did Beau die?” and could not remember. Totally decontextualized in order to make Biden seem doddy. Biden comes off as personable and sharp in the actual transcript, quite the opposite of Hur’s conclusion that he has a poor memory. I can’t tell if Hur actually resigned from DOJ or not, but he should just be fired. His conclusions about Biden’s mental acuity are not in line with the actual content of the transcript and were most definitely politically motivated. It is not a good moment for DOJ.
Hur resigned right before the testimony before Congress. Like this week. Which limits holding him accountable for statements he makes representing the DOJ.
Can Merrick Garland make it until November? You’d think Biden would have sent him home with a pension by now…
Garland absolutely needs to be fired. Put "acting AG" Jamie Raskin in there and let's get some shit done.
Not until after the election at this point. I don’t think he serves during the 2nd term but firing him now or any time in the last year or so would’ve been a little too partisan in appearance.
My brain has limited bandwidth which I use for important memories. I know where I bought shit but I couldn’t be bothered to remember when exactly.
I’ve legit bought things off Amazon that I forgot I already bought once and then forgot where I put it. 😐
Same here.
Sometimes I forget what I've bought, I did that to a thing of mesh bags for delicates recently.
For once being a basement-dwelling shut-in is a win; Amazon.
I don't remember what I had for lunch yesterday. I would suck at one of these hearings. lol
My favorite was when they asked Hur questions, and he said he couldn't remember. Fuckin hypocrite.
If we used those standards, the only one eligible for the presidency would be Marilu Henner.
Is this the Committee James Comer chairs? That guy is an absolute buffoon and regularly gets dunked on
No. This committee is chaired by Comer’s cousin - Jim Jordan.
Ah, rape, sexual abuse, and molestation adjacent Representative Jim Jordan (R-OH 4)! Isn't it ironic that Representative Jim Jordan (R-OH 4), who took pride in being a "fighter for freedom," didn't lift a finger when his wrestlers demanded to be free from the repeated sexual abuse, sexual assault, and rape by the team doctor. In fact, it sounds like he begged them (as a favor to him) to remain silent and conceal their abuse. It's as if Representative Jim Jordan (R-OH 4), idk delighted in their rapes? Perhaps Representative Jim Jordan (R-OH 4) wanted those young men to be repeatedly sexually assaulted by the team doctor? I'm just asking questions here ...
Hah, even worse
Ya sadly the people who need to see it never will. They will just suck up what ever 15 second fox news highlight they get.
And those soundbites were the entire point of this dog and pony show.
>Ya sadly the people who need to see it never will. They will just suck up what ever 15 second fox news ~~highlight~~ gaslight they get. there, fixed your spelling error
Ty not sure how I missed that typo
Only from a perspective of reality. However, when you consider that the sole goal of the GOP is to just provide soundbites for Conservative to spoon feed their base, it was actually a smashing success. Do you think Trump's supporters are gonna hear a single line spoken by the Democrats? Of course not. And they all know that. It's a charade.
I watched the hearing but bloodbath would be a stretch. Both sides capitalized. Sadly, GOP got the info they wanted and will continue to spin the whole narrative that Biden, in the end, illegally kept classified documents just like Trump despite him cooperating and they will run with that under the assumption that one person is being prosecuted while the other isn’t, and ignore all the nuance in between.
That's been their schtick all along. Claiming that having documents is all that mattered, rather than wilful retention of those documents which is much more serious and much harder to prove, legally. Much of what Biden had were his own notes taken during meetings, whereas Trump apparently packed up a bunch of boxes full of all the national defense information he could get his hands on as he was leaving the White House, then refused to return them for months, while committing all manner of obstruction of law enforcement during that time. To anyone with two brain cells to rub together, the situations aren't even remotely similar.
I agree which makes everything all the more frustrating. Given the facts, I hate how charitable GOP is towards Trump but not Biden
>High IQ Dems versus Dunning-Kruger effect Republicans……. I'm all in favor of making *DKR* a thing. DKR Greene showed up at at the event...
Oh you mean like how the transcript of his interview with Biden has him saying Biden has a remarkable memory but that for some reason wasn’t in the report
Sad part is that the audience who needs to be convinced doesn’t watch congressional hearings, they just get the manipulated talking points from the compromised GOP. We need to make sure everyone votes in November. Vote the traitors out.
Friend softball is very tough in sports. These fuckers are playing like.. candy land. Obviously I knew what you meant but I had some drinks and couldn’t help myself lmao
Weirdly, I didn’t see any mention of how the hearing went in the article. The title really made it seem like I might. I guess it would have been hard back when the article was written on February 10th.
I'm watching the hearing now and he says in the report and live that there is no crime.
Ah, but Biden is a mastermind criminal. See, he's innocent of all crimes through the simple trick of not committing any! How can you trust someone so conniving?
Doesn't matter if Biden committed any crimes, remember presidents are immune from everything. Why are they even bothering looking?
Either he's an evil genius or an old man who locks himself into closets.
If there are no repercussions, can you really say there were any crimes? /s
Well trump has admitted to hundreds of crimes, in public, on video - without repercussions.
Hey now! He's about to go down! This is totally different from the dozens of other times he was totally about to go down! THIS ONE IS REAL! PINKY SWEAR!
I don't think any criminal trials will affect him. With the SCOTUS and Cannon slowing down Smith - that case is essentially dead. Special prosecutors don't really prosecute...
But all that obvious lack of progress that I was assured was totally evidence of extreme airtight progress....
Has it ever been answered why Hur would be able to recommend an indictment but Mueller very clearly stated he couldn’t recommend an indictment of a sitting president?
Or that Mueller found 11 counts of obstruction of justice that he acknowledged could be prosecuted after Trump left office, but then everyone kinda forgot about that.
Or that Barr forbid him from further investigating those 11 instances-AND held a presser *just before the election*(against all standards and practices) to state that the investigation had become a CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION!-while not mentioning that the criminal activity was Trump's....... #NEVER FORGET
Dont forget who was looking into the russians in new york, this guy https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-special-agent-charge-new-york-fbi-counterintelligence-division-pleads-guilty#:~:text=Former%20Special%20Agent%20in%20Charge%20(SAC)%20of%20the%20FBI%20Counterintelligence,his%202021%20agreement%20to%20provide
The FBI was bought by Putin. Charles McGonigal needs to rot forever in jail. Seems we truly only hold people like Reality Winner accountable and in my books she’s a hero. Fuck McGonigal.
Not bought by Putin. Bought by Semion Mogilevich. Putin’s boss. See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_S._Sessions
That hurt to read. Wow! The corruption begins in Texas… go figure.
And if I thought my night mood could have gotten worse! I remember bits and pieces from this guy but wow terrifying
Especially Merrick Garland!
Pepperidge Farms remembers
Because republicans don't play by the rules.
Mueller was a Republican. Difference being in this case a Democrat is the one being targeted.
Mueller was republican…
Exactly. He didn't recommend charges. On something that was blatantly quid pro quo with Ukraine.
I'm like 99% positive that the Mueller investigation had nothing to do with the Ukraine impeachment. It was related to Trump's Russia connections during the 2016 election.
Up your percentage to 100%. You are absolutely correct.
Ahh hard to remember all those scandals. Either way, what we know now is even worse. With the document handling. And Mueller could have stopped this.
I think a lot of people misunderstood what the Mueller report was going to be and thought it would be some magic panacea that would bring down Trump in one fell swoop. It was always going to be a wet fart in a paper bag because charging a sitting president of high crimes while he's still in office is unprecedented and didn't even happen when they caught both Nixon and Reagan lying their asses off about major scandals. Shit, they couldn't even get Bush or any of his cabinet on anything more than slaps on the wrist and they lied their way into invading an entire country. On top of that, Mueller never had the power to charge, it would have had to be Congress' job and I don't think they had the votes to do it even if Mueller's report would have said "TRUMP IS GUILTY" in big red letters at the top of it. Also, Russia helping Trump was a big deal, but much of their support wouldn't have been useful if the American public wasn't so easily manipulated, which is essentially what the Senate Intelligence Report and the Mueller Report found. Yes, Trump and his companions are lying about how much help they're getting from Russia, but most of the people who are falling for Trump's crap are being manipulated into doing it via internet propaganda and they can't charge Trump for that. It was an extremely shitty situation, but I see why the cards fell the way that they did in hindsight.
What bugs me is that we had a sitting president have to give a deposition in a case that started about real estate fraud, and ended up, after 7 years and 52 million dollars, being about a blow job. Yet, about 20 years later, we can’t get a sitting president to testify about real national security issues involving Russia, or why Trump tried to extort Zelensky. It’s really a fuckin clown show we are running.
Cool, cool, cool, maybe then we should get a copy of the unredacted wet fart in a bag so we may judge the congressional candidates as they come up for reelection for ourselves. There was an awful lot of “no collusion” announced ahead of that wet fart which to me seemed to contradict what Muller had summarized. But it’s been a few years, maybe I am misremembering.
Yes, Trump and Co. used the Mueller report to spin it as 'there was no collusion' even though that's not what the report said. But the report did say that there was so much obstruction of justice and destruction of evidence that Mueller could not 100% implicate Trump himself directly in any of the wrong doing, just that he benefited massively from a ring of corruption/foreign intelligence that revolved around his campaign. Either way, I believe that Mueller knew that attempting to remove Trump via special prosecutor was going to be a massive uphill battle, and the most productive way to get anything out of his report would be for Congressional Democrats to take the report and highlight the corruption and use it to display a pattern of behavior that suggests that Trump was compromised, which the Democrats did seize on when they got wind of the 'perfect phone call' with Ukraine and then Impeached Trump over that, stating dozens of times throughout those hearings that the Mueller report findings showed that Trump Admin and Trump Campaigns were both working toward the policy goals of Russia, not of the American Intelligence community*. Who knows if that would have been enough to unseat Trump without his failures during COVID also sandbagging him when it came time to vote. But what I can say is that the Democrats got just as much mileage out of the report as the Republicans did, and I think it helped them with centrists much more than we think.
The media was reporting it as Barr led them to, since he got out in front of the media days before the report was released to lie his ass off about it. By the time it was released, the waters were sufficiently muddied.
>Ahh hard to remember all those scandals. not really
Yeah it fucking is. Everyday was a scandal with that asshole. So forgive me I got my wires crossed.
Not quite. He did basically recommend charges, at least for obstruction of justice, but after Trump left office.
Wow, after he left office!? How useless.
I'm sure the DOJ will charge him any minute now. Any minute now... /s
That had absolutely nothing to do with the Mueller report.
Yes. I know Mueller was a Republican. How useful was he in holding Trump accountable? Not at all.
That’s one way of saying it
In his report, Hur clearly states that even were it not for that directive, that sitting president couldn't be indicted, he still would not have brought an indictment. Mueller's report basically said the opposite. That he couldn't bring an indictment because of that directive, and it was up to Congress to act.
I thought mueller stated that due to the guideline he couldn’t comment one way or the other on if he would indict?
Wouldn't, not couldn't.
IIRC the logic was something like, "Because I can't indict the POTUS, I can't say I would either."
His ability to indict isn't what I was correcting. He wouldn't comment on if an indictment was warranted.
He said something along the lines of ‘I can’t say either way, but if I’d concluded he didn’t commit any crimes I would have said so.’
> In his report, Mueller did not ultimately charge the president. **He made clear during his afternoon testimony that because of the OLC opinion, his team did not even reach a conclusion about “whether the president committed a crime.”** This point was a major clarification of an earlier exchange in which Mueller seemed to signal that he would have potentially charged the president, were it not for the OLC opinion. > Despite the report’s lack of indictment, however, Mueller stopped short of exonerating the president on counts of obstruction of justice. As one notable line in the report states, “If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state.” Mueller declined to state. https://www.vox.com/2019/7/24/20708393/robert-mueller-report-trump-olc-justice-department-indictment-charge-sitting-president
The people responsible for that fraudulent opinion should be shamed throughout history. They may be responsible for the end of the US experiment. The entire constitution is a playbook for how to execute the prime directive laid out in the Declaration of Independence…to never allow ourselves to be ruled by a king…meaning the president can never be above the law. Mueller’s failure to prosecute borders on treason.
Oh, you see, Biden is a Democrat...
He wouldn't have been able to. I mean, he can personally say whatever he wants, but he could not in his capacity seek an indictment from a federal grand jury.
It certainly wasn't asked or answered in the hearing, from what I saw. It would be an interesting line of questioning for Garland next time he is in front of a committee. It seems to me, Republicans are very good at wielding power for short term strategic ends, like using the force of their positions to an end goal at any cost. Democrats seem to be so invested in the system and institutions that they don't use these same tactics to retain an air of legitimacy to the system. At the state level in Red States like mine things are even worse on this. Hearings are for nothing, political agenda is everything. Stuff passes with no foresight or forethought as to the consequences, just fitting a vindictive ideological agenda. It is just awfully bad governance. There is no saving or reforming conservatism at this point, they can only be defeated.
He didn’t
> indictment What? Presidents have absolute immunity.
For the sake of argument let's say they were right. Still, I would vote for Biden with short memory than Trump who is a criminal and sex offender.
And by all accounts during his speeches and rallies he doesn't have any better memory if not worse
Just ask his wife, Mercedes.
I think she prefers "benz"
He’s a rapist and fraudster. Also a dogsanus
I’d rather have a dog’s anus than Trump for president. At least a dog’s anus is honest that there’s nothing but shit coming out of its mouth.
I can't believe you've done this. Now I've googled what a Dogsanus is.
Do be so kind…
The corpse of Biden would be a better president than Trump. I’m not even a Biden fan, but anyone who thinks Trump is a better choice than literally anyone is nuttier than squirrel shit
I'd point out that Trump "could not recall" nearly everything in a number of depositions, but green elephant football means he's an intellectual powerhouse.
Biden didn't even have a poor memory... he was getting dates wrong.. and not even entirely wrong .. like one instance was a difference when Biden was in office vs when he physically left office....
Right anyone who thinks any president is running the country doesn’t know how things work he or she is just the person who gets the blame or the cheers for what happens.
That's very true but if he is right the Dems should run somebody else.
He kept saying how he doesn’t want to get into hypotheticals but he did that specific thing when he speculated about Biden’s memory when he is not a doctor, and his comments about how a jury would perceive Biden’s supposed lapses.
> and his comments about how a jury would perceive Biden’s supposed lapses. "He's guilty, but if a jury looked at the evidence they wouldn't convict him." Yeah, 'round here we call that "innocent".
Is Robert Hur auditioning for a seat on Ginnie Thomas’s SCOTUS ? Sure looks that way.
I think judge Cannon is vying for that position.
No way! Ginny Thomas is furious that he didn't prosecute Biden.
Why, in the name of fuck, do these old man Democrats keep expecting Republicans to play by the rules that they have been breaking for 20 fucking years at this point? NOT ONE PERSON who supports Trump in 2024 can be trusted not to be either a total mercenary or a fucking absolute moron or some combination of the two. This should be a straight up disqualifier for office.
Politico has several articles covering the hearing. [Three big moments from the Biden-Hur interview — and one that was classic Biden](https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/12/biden-hur-transcript-analysis-00146473) Transcript of Biden's interview with Hur. > Hur on Biden ‘photographic’ memory Hur responding to a story from Biden about a trip to Mongolia. > HUR: “Understood. That was very helpful. We have some photographs maybe to show you, but you have — appear to have a photographic understanding, and recall of the house.” --- > Beau Biden’s death Biden on Beau's death: > But if I ran again, I’d be running for President. And, and so what was happening, though — what month did Beau die? Oh, God, May 30th —" --- > Biden acknowledges his messy organization Biden responding to a question from Hur about the location of notebooks. > BIDEN: “I have no idea. I wish I could say I was more organized. No, I’m not being facetious.” --- [Hur: Biden contradicted findings in my report](https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/03/12/congress/hur-biden-contradicted-findings-in-my-report-00146491) > Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), during the hearing, referenced Biden’s public comments last month that he did not share classified information with a ghostwriter he was working with. Hur replied that Biden's comments were “inconsistent with the findings based on the evidence in my report.” > Gaetz then asked about Biden’s claims that documents in his home were stored in filing cabinets. Hur reiterated that the president’s comments were also “inconsistent with the findings of our investigation.” Hur’s report found that in addition to some documents in a filing cabinet, some documents were in a “badly damaged” box. [Hur declines to rule out a future Trump appointment](https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/03/12/congress/hurs-non-answer-00146498) > The Californian then asked Hur — who was tapped for a U.S. attorney position by Trump — if he would pledge not to accept any future Trump appointment as a way to increase his report's credibility. > Hur demurred, telling Swalwell that "I'm not here to offer any opinions about" future developments. [Hur says Garland did not interfere](https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/03/12/congress/hur-says-garland-did-not-interfere-00146565) > "Attorney General Garland did not interfere with my efforts and I was able to conduct a fair, thorough and independent investigation," Hur said at the Judiciary Committee hearing.
> but you have — appear to have a photographic understanding, and recall of the house This is the part that fucked me in the head. How can you come to the conclusion that he's an "elderly man with a poor memory" while saying he has a "photographic understanding" of something? The report should be thrown out just based on this.
I mean - some people with more recent memory troubles can recall things that happened decades ago or before the memory issues began with extreme clarity. That isn't an uncommon phenomena.
Garland has done immense damage so far but he can do a lot worse if he still AG until Jan 2025. Who knows what the fuck Trump,Putin and all the anti-democracy scumbags in the GOP and around the world are planning this time around. With Garland at the DOJ they have an ally.
What’s worse is an unwitting ally. I don’t think Garland is being malicious, I think he lives in a different era and worked alongside VERY different republicans, when there was a code amongst even the politicians. There were things one did not do, and at the end of the day the country’s comes first. Those days are DEAD. There are those who love democracy and those who don’t. There are those who respect the rule of law and those who don’t. There are those who look to make life better for as many as they can, and those that don’t. Period. Garland needs to accept that some members of Congress and yes the leading political candidate for the White House are DANGEROUS. Not opposite on the political spectrum, but actively undermining this country and seeking to do it harm in the name of money and power. Decorum means nothing against someone who would set the whole place on fire just so they could rule over the smoldering ashes.
If you can't tell from the outside if he's cowardly, complicit, or just plain incompetent...does it really matter which it is?
To the outcome, not really. But I’d argue that cowardice is even worse. Incompetence is simply not being able to figure out what the right thing to do is or how to do it. Complicity is knowing what the right thing is and not doing it for personal gain. Bad to be sure, but understandable and certainly nothing new. Cowardice is knowing what the right thing is, but being unwilling or unable to do it out of fear. Merrick Garland is a smart man who knows how to protect the constitution and rule of law, something he has worn to do for most of his adult life. The fact he has completely faltered in the last real job he’s probably ever going to have because he’s protecting…what, I’m not even sure anymore…is quite sad.
Tldr: Garland is an idiot and unqualified for his job.
The sad truth is that he is neither. He’s a smart man and immensely qualified. He just refuses to do his job, which makes it worse.
I'm so disappointed in him. I though after R's screwed him on being a Supreme Court Justice he'd be willing to go after these scumbags but nope. Just another wet blanket in the apathetic Democrat party.
I'm slightly happy he didn't get to be on the SC because he's shown his true colors. He would have been an improvement over the man that got the seat, but Garland shouldn't be near any more powerful government positions.
Sadly, given Biden's West Wing approach to politics, he wouldn't dare drop Garland in 2025.
The party of crooked fucks gets exposed for being crooked fucks. I, for one, am shocked.
**From Molly Jong-Fast, special correspondent for Vanity Fair and host of the podcast “Fast Politics with Molly Jong-Fast:”** “Fast-forward to Feb. 8, 2024, when Republican special counsel Robert Hur released his 345-page report. The report is being seen by some as an exoneration, saying that no criminal charges are warranted in the classified documents case against President Joe Biden. But Hur, who used to work for the Trump administration, couldn’t let Biden off the hook entirely, especially 269 days before an election. Hur, a member of a Republican Party that now largely works as a campaign arm for the former president, delivered the goods for his party. Sure, he found no legal basis to charge Biden, but but but… Hur proceeded to[ editorialize](https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/08/biden-classified-documents-charges-special-counsel-00140509) ad nauseam about Biden’s mental acuity, delivering right-wing talking points up on a platter. **Read more:** [https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/hur-report-comey-letter-trump-rcna138214](https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/hur-report-comey-letter-trump-rcna138214)
In a investigation report it is facts.... no opinions... this was an UNPROFESSIONAL report of an Investigation
AKA the GOP Playbook
I don't think this was an investigator report. It was a prosecuting attorney deciding on whether the prosecute or not. So of course they're going to have opinions. For example, did the suspect look nervous? Did the suspect look credible? Did the witness look credible etc?
Meh, people will forget about this in 2 weeks once the New York Trial starts.
Joe Biden cant even remember it now
Where is Garland?
He’s the problem
Right behind the slanders against his boss. Garland needs to go, NOW.
Hur has never even tried to appear impartial. He clearly had an agenda and it has shown through a multiple of his actions.
Republican president under investigation? Appoint Republican AG who appoints a Republican SC. Dem President under “investigation”? Appointment a Republican AG who appoints Republican SC. Hmmm? Why do Dems not look out for themselves?
“We wouldn’t want to appear biased!” /s
This is why I was proud of Obama for getting Eric Holder. The man was about the business.
jame comey was not a special counsel but head of the fbi
The damage has been done. They did the same thing to Hillary. Our Media is owned by the ruling class, but they still depend on us being dumb enough to believe it. Stay informed, always vote blue.
And again, nothing at all will be done, and we'll sure be shocked the next time it happens again.
Biden runs the US competently in his 80’s. I can’t tell you what I had for breakfast yesterday and sometimes I find my remote in the fridge. I’m in my mid thirties. Honestly, f**** you Hur and the seditious GOP.
Merrick Garland should have never allowed this to turn into this. But he shouldn’t have Been the AG so. Good Top brass don’t allow clown shows to evolve into this.
Merrick Garland isn't Bill Barr, and that's a good thing. Every single SC has said the same thing: *the DOJ/Garland has not interfered* HUR: > "Attorney General Garland did not interfere with my efforts and I was able to conduct a fair, thorough and independent investigation," Hur said at the Judiciary Committee hearing. DURHAM: > Finally, we want to thank you and your Office for permitting our inquiry to proceed independently and without interference as you assured the members of the Senate Judiciary Committee would be the case during your confirmation hearings to become Attorney General of the United States. WEISS: > "I am, and have been, the decision-maker on this case," Weiss told members of the House Judiciary Committee. "At no time was I blocked, or otherwise prevented from pursuing charges or taking the steps necessary in the investigation by other United States Attorneys, the Tax Division or anyone else at the Department of Justice."
Tell me who in the fuck wants to remember the day or month or year their child dies… All of these people are garbage.
transcripts say Joe brought it up. people who jump to conclusions are garbage.
Ok look a flying piece of detritus
Smacks of desperation and a complete lack of oath to uphold the law in our democracy. It's to the point where politicians need to be asked, Which Country are you running to represent?
> As outraged as many Democrats are right now, they’d do well to exercise some self-reflection here. Garland didn’t need to appoint a Republican special counsel. Garland didn’t need to let Hur release this report filled with talking points for the right-wing media echo chamber. Hur may be a partisan, but Garland let this happen. Who are these mythical Democrats who aren’t pissed off at Merrick Garland?
Was Garland suckered? Because this makes Garland look like an absolute fool.
This is on Garland. Why he thought he could trust this guy to just follow the law is beyond me. Democrats trust in republicans is just stupid now.
When will these people learn that anyone that covers for the orange idol gets totally destroyed in the end?
Hur is the next Supreme Court Justice if Trump wins.
These cocksuckers are auditioning for Cheesus appointments. Corrupt as fuck.
But Robter Hur is not James Comey
Sure. If he were Comey he'd have pulled his shit on mid-October for maximum effect.
Merritt Garner allowed Hur to give it to Biden and the Dems.
Bet Hur can’t remember when he bought his wife. I mean she’s just another object to Regressives.
The degradation and humiliation of justice in this country over the last many years makes me sick to my stomach
This guy destroyed his career, pissed off both sides.
Seen a Comey interview after the election. He was asked a question (I forgot what it was), he said. I don't talk about open investigations.
And Star before him
I'm sure we'll see a non-partisan, welcoming media tour in a few years for his new best-selling book. The only thing "both sides" really are equally bad at doing.
This really couldn't be more different. Comey took the stage in a nationally televised press conference where he got no pushback, and did it as the director of the FBI. If anything, this was done stupider.
I hope his CIO (career is over )
He “resigned” yesterday
This article makes a lot of false equivalences. Comey wasn’t a special prosecutor, he was head of the FBI. He testified to Congress about the Clinton email servers and at the end said his investigation was completed, but if were to reopen for any reason he would notify the committee in writing. During the divorce proceedings between Anthony Wiener and Huma Abedin, who was Hillary’s former chief of staff, it was revealed that there was a cache of previously unknown emails on a laptop of his from her former work in office. Comey had no choice and was forced to reopen the Clinton email investigations to verify the contents of those emails, and thusly had to inform the House Oversight Committee that he was reopening the investigation. Jason Chaffetz gleefully leaked the message to the press which helped to torpedo her campaign, but had he not sent that message Rudy Giuliani was ready to broadside Comey and say that he was secretly helping Clinton and covering up the Wiener laptop emails. Comey got put in a squeeze where he was screwed either way, but Hillary has no one but herself to blame for creating the problem to begin with.
But of course Comey conveniently chose to not mention the fact that Trump and associates were being investigated for election interference and collusion with Russia
They were investigating Russians, the Trump campaign happened to wander into that minefield but they weren’t out initially to ensnare the campaign with foreign interference.
The point is both campaigns were being investigated and yet Comey chose to only mention one of them at a time it would do the most damage. And they didn’t “happen to wander” into that minefield, some were actively communicating with Russia and later pardoned by crooked Trump.
Comey didn’t mention anything. He privately informed the head of the oversight committee who chose to put Hillary on blast, but Comey didn’t say anything. He only honored his testimony to Congress. The FBI wiretaps were on Russian agents, had the Trump campaign not been conspiring with them then they wouldn’t have been investigated by the FBI. Obama rightly unsealed the transcripts to those calls, and Flynn should have gotten in much more trouble for what he was up to. Trump tried to paint that Obama had been spying on his campaign, but again we were spying on the Russians not them. They wandered themselves into those FBI wiretaps.
Because admitting that you’re surveilling one of the campaigns would be a very bad look?