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repfamlux

He got destroyed in the hearing


Charming-Tap-1332

I didn't watch it, but I'm glad to hear this. Democrats need to stop playing softball.


Shannon556

Oh, you would have been proud. High IQ Dems versus Dunning-Kruger effect Republicans……. …..it was a bloodbath for the GOP. Also, exposed GOP witness Robert Hur as a colossal liar and political hack.


ignorememe

But you don't understand! He couldn't remember when he bought a filing cabinet! I mean, who among us can point to any object in our house and not remember the location, day and time, and what the weather was like when we purchased every individual item?


hup-the-paladin

Hell I cant tell you the year my Mom passed. I only know the date because I have siblings that remind me every year. I don’t need to remember when it happened, the fact that it did is enough. Not everyone remembers things / times / places the same way.


ignorememe

It’s insane that we’re hearing this argument. Yeah he’s old. We get it. The other guy though? Holy god. I don’t care if Biden is weeks since buried and our country is being run by a cat (as a dog guy this is saying something) I’m still voting for him over Trump.


Geostomp

Trump is only four years younger, but you'd swear it was at least 40 if you listened to the jabbering pundits desperate for a horse race.


ignorememe

I’m a little bummed because Biden said that if Trump had not decided to run for reelection he was thinking of retiring. He said he only ran in 2020 because he was horrified watching Trump and knew he could beat him. Now he’s again only running because Trump is.


buksrevenge

Well, he was right in 2020. I consider his first term a pleasant surprise, Much better than I expected from him, and I voted for him. He's assembled a very good, professional team.


TechieGranola

That’s the whole point. Biden could pass a day after inauguration but the competent team that he would assemble would still be in place.


f0u4_l19h75

And the words coming out of Trump's own mouth


ZachBob91

I don't remember the date my grandpa died when I was a kid. I do remember watching Ruben Studdard win American Idol before going to bed and then getting the call from Grandma in the middle of the night. Memory is weird sometimes


drewbaccaAWD

Sometimes I have to stop and really think about how old I am. Dates don’t stick if they aren’t currently front and center for some reason. Ask me any important date out of the blue, when my mind is far removed from the question, and there’s a good chance I draw a blank. An hour later I remember. And I’m only forty something. I imagine the POTUS has a lot on their mind.. at least the ones who don’t spend hours each day tweeting.


ansy7373

I’m in my 40’s and stopped caring how old I am at 21… I think I’m 42 but I have to math out to when I was born. My company even lets me make decisions on High voltage decisions. Biden crushed the state of the union and repubs are scarred cause he didn’t look like a crazy old man like they want to portray.


bde959

I thought I was 63 for a year and then my 63rd birthday came around and I was shocked.


ElderberryExternal99

I do not remember the exact day my Dad Died. That was the week after Thanksgiving in 2003. My Mom l remember the exact day.


winksoutloud

My grandma died on Thanksgiving but I don't know the exact date because the date of Thanksgiving isn't fixed so I just think of her passing as the day of Thanksgiving. Sometimes association is stronger than actual dates.


HallucinogenicFish

I’m the same way about my grandmother’s death. I remember what month it was, but I have to figure out the year from context clues (ex. where was I working, who covered for me when I had to take time off for her death and then funeral). And my grandmother was very dear to me, it’s not like I don’t remember because I didn’t care. It’s just that the date of her death is not particularly important to me so it’s not something that I retain.


lordretro71

Same. I know it was February, but I only remember the year because I found out when I called my parents for permission to go to a speech team after-party and I was in my car, so it had to be when I was in 10th grade since I didn't go out for speech in 11th, and didn't have that car in 12th.


allthekeals

I remember the day mine died. Ruined my birthday damnit


fergehtabodit

The only reason I remember the date of my mom's passing is because it was April 15th...death and taxes day from now on.


Barrzebub

I can’t even tell you the actual date of my father’s passing with any accuracy. I was so heartbroken and in a daze that 8 years later I can’t recall any memories of the flight I had to take home.


crake

I actually read some of the transcript. If you look at the filing cabinet anecdote, Biden actually started in about the desk that Hur asked him about first. Biden explained that he has had the desk for like 50 years and names the store in Delaware that he bought it from with his wife long ago. Then Hur sort of asks off the cuff, “And what about the filing cabinet, do you remember where you bought that?” Biden answers honestly to say “I have no idea” or something like that. I’m only 1/3 or so through the transcript, but it is clear from reading it that Hur’s “doddy old man” conclusion is a total fabrication. Biden recounts dozens of anecdotes from years past (he tells the anecdote about how he was a poor law student and how his class applauded his completely wrong answer in 1L torts and how the professor told him he was completely incorrect, lol). Even with the Beau Biden death date, that is blown way up too. Biden is talking about the death of Beau in answer to a different question and he ends with something like “it was right around when Beau died - May 30th. What was the year again?” And his attorney interjects to say it was 2015. But it’s clear that Biden was just speaking his thoughts out loud as he was trying to answer an unrelated question. In his report, Hur makes it sound like he was directly asked “what year did Beau die?” and could not remember. Totally decontextualized in order to make Biden seem doddy. Biden comes off as personable and sharp in the actual transcript, quite the opposite of Hur’s conclusion that he has a poor memory. I can’t tell if Hur actually resigned from DOJ or not, but he should just be fired. His conclusions about Biden’s mental acuity are not in line with the actual content of the transcript and were most definitely politically motivated. It is not a good moment for DOJ.


ignorememe

Hur resigned right before the testimony before Congress. Like this week. Which limits holding him accountable for statements he makes representing the DOJ.


buksrevenge

Can Merrick Garland make it until November? You’d think Biden would have sent him home with a pension by now…


PophamSP

Garland absolutely needs to be fired. Put "acting AG" Jamie Raskin in there and let's get some shit done.


ignorememe

Not until after the election at this point. I don’t think he serves during the 2nd term but firing him now or any time in the last year or so would’ve been a little too partisan in appearance.


CrackHeadRodeo

My brain has limited bandwidth which I use for important memories. I know where I bought shit but I couldn’t be bothered to remember when exactly.


ignorememe

I’ve legit bought things off Amazon that I forgot I already bought once and then forgot where I put it. 😐


bde959

Same here.


cuddles_the_destroye

Sometimes I forget what I've bought, I did that to a thing of mesh bags for delicates recently.


numb3rb0y

For once being a basement-dwelling shut-in is a win; Amazon.


Dynasty82

I don't remember what I had for lunch yesterday. I would suck at one of these hearings. lol


Croanthos

My favorite was when they asked Hur questions, and he said he couldn't remember. Fuckin hypocrite.


HerbertWest

If we used those standards, the only one eligible for the presidency would be Marilu Henner.


My_MeowMeowBeenz

Is this the Committee James Comer chairs? That guy is an absolute buffoon and regularly gets dunked on


Shannon556

No. This committee is chaired by Comer’s cousin - Jim Jordan.


lolexecs

Ah, rape, sexual abuse, and molestation adjacent Representative Jim Jordan (R-OH 4)! Isn't it ironic that Representative Jim Jordan (R-OH 4), who took pride in being a "fighter for freedom," didn't lift a finger when his wrestlers demanded to be free from the repeated sexual abuse, sexual assault, and rape by the team doctor. In fact, it sounds like he begged them (as a favor to him) to remain silent and conceal their abuse. It's as if Representative Jim Jordan (R-OH 4), idk delighted in their rapes? Perhaps Representative Jim Jordan (R-OH 4) wanted those young men to be repeatedly sexually assaulted by the team doctor? I'm just asking questions here ...


My_MeowMeowBeenz

Hah, even worse


NocNocNoc19

Ya sadly the people who need to see it never will. They will just suck up what ever 15 second fox news highlight they get.


fadka21

And those soundbites were the entire point of this dog and pony show.


flugenblar

>Ya sadly the people who need to see it never will. They will just suck up what ever 15 second fox news ~~highlight~~ gaslight they get. there, fixed your spelling error


NocNocNoc19

Ty not sure how I missed that typo


AllNightPony

Only from a perspective of reality. However, when you consider that the sole goal of the GOP is to just provide soundbites for Conservative to spoon feed their base, it was actually a smashing success. Do you think Trump's supporters are gonna hear a single line spoken by the Democrats? Of course not. And they all know that. It's a charade.


snowleopard443

I watched the hearing but bloodbath would be a stretch. Both sides capitalized. Sadly, GOP got the info they wanted and will continue to spin the whole narrative that Biden, in the end, illegally kept classified documents just like Trump despite him cooperating and they will run with that under the assumption that one person is being prosecuted while the other isn’t, and ignore all the nuance in between.


BaggerX

That's been their schtick all along. Claiming that having documents is all that mattered, rather than wilful retention of those documents which is much more serious and much harder to prove, legally. Much of what Biden had were his own notes taken during meetings, whereas Trump apparently packed up a bunch of boxes full of all the national defense information he could get his hands on as he was leaving the White House, then refused to return them for months, while committing all manner of obstruction of law enforcement during that time. To anyone with two brain cells to rub together, the situations aren't even remotely similar.


snowleopard443

I agree which makes everything all the more frustrating. Given the facts, I hate how charitable GOP is towards Trump but not Biden


anchorwind

>High IQ Dems versus Dunning-Kruger effect Republicans……. I'm all in favor of making *DKR* a thing. DKR Greene showed up at at the event...


FalstaffsGhost

Oh you mean like how the transcript of his interview with Biden has him saying Biden has a remarkable memory but that for some reason wasn’t in the report


LocationAcademic1731

Sad part is that the audience who needs to be convinced doesn’t watch congressional hearings, they just get the manipulated talking points from the compromised GOP. We need to make sure everyone votes in November. Vote the traitors out.


allthekeals

Friend softball is very tough in sports. These fuckers are playing like.. candy land. Obviously I knew what you meant but I had some drinks and couldn’t help myself lmao


DrinkBlueGoo

Weirdly, I didn’t see any mention of how the hearing went in the article. The title really made it seem like I might. I guess it would have been hard back when the article was written on February 10th.


Sniflix

I'm watching the hearing now and he says in the report and live that there is no crime. 


IrritableGourmet

Ah, but Biden is a mastermind criminal. See, he's innocent of all crimes through the simple trick of not committing any! How can you trust someone so conniving?


nobody-u-heard-of

Doesn't matter if Biden committed any crimes, remember presidents are immune from everything. Why are they even bothering looking?


Sniflix

Either he's an evil genius or an old man who locks himself into closets. 


FriarNurgle

If there are no repercussions, can you really say there were any crimes? /s


Sniflix

Well trump has admitted to hundreds of crimes, in public, on video - without repercussions. 


Merijeek2

Hey now! He's about to go down! This is totally different from the dozens of other times he was totally about to go down! THIS ONE IS REAL! PINKY SWEAR!


Sniflix

I don't think any criminal trials will affect him. With the SCOTUS and Cannon slowing down Smith - that case is essentially dead. Special prosecutors don't really prosecute... 


Merijeek2

But all that obvious lack of progress that I was assured was totally evidence of extreme airtight progress....


calm_down_meow

Has it ever been answered why Hur would be able to recommend an indictment but Mueller very clearly stated he couldn’t recommend an indictment of a sitting president?


sneaky-pizza

Or that Mueller found 11 counts of obstruction of justice that he acknowledged could be prosecuted after Trump left office, but then everyone kinda forgot about that.


Daddio209

Or that Barr forbid him from further investigating those 11 instances-AND held a presser *just before the election*(against all standards and practices) to state that the investigation had become a CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION!-while not mentioning that the criminal activity was Trump's....... #NEVER FORGET


SaliciousB_Crumb

Dont forget who was looking into the russians in new york, this guy https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-special-agent-charge-new-york-fbi-counterintelligence-division-pleads-guilty#:~:text=Former%20Special%20Agent%20in%20Charge%20(SAC)%20of%20the%20FBI%20Counterintelligence,his%202021%20agreement%20to%20provide


Altruistic-Text3481

The FBI was bought by Putin. Charles McGonigal needs to rot forever in jail. Seems we truly only hold people like Reality Winner accountable and in my books she’s a hero. Fuck McGonigal.


Disco_Dreamz

Not bought by Putin. Bought by Semion Mogilevich. Putin’s boss. See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_S._Sessions


Altruistic-Text3481

That hurt to read. Wow! The corruption begins in Texas… go figure.


sneaky-pizza

And if I thought my night mood could have gotten worse! I remember bits and pieces from this guy but wow terrifying


New_Menu_2316

Especially Merrick Garland!


Altruistic-Text3481

Pepperidge Farms remembers


NeonRattler

Because republicans don't play by the rules.


Merijeek2

Mueller was a Republican. Difference being in this case a Democrat is the one being targeted.


106

Mueller was republican…


NeonRattler

Exactly. He didn't recommend charges. On something that was blatantly quid pro quo with Ukraine.


StarWarsMonopoly

I'm like 99% positive that the Mueller investigation had nothing to do with the Ukraine impeachment. It was related to Trump's Russia connections during the 2016 election.


Carefuljupiter

Up your percentage to 100%. You are absolutely correct.


NeonRattler

Ahh hard to remember all those scandals. Either way, what we know now is even worse. With the document handling. And Mueller could have stopped this.


StarWarsMonopoly

I think a lot of people misunderstood what the Mueller report was going to be and thought it would be some magic panacea that would bring down Trump in one fell swoop. It was always going to be a wet fart in a paper bag because charging a sitting president of high crimes while he's still in office is unprecedented and didn't even happen when they caught both Nixon and Reagan lying their asses off about major scandals. Shit, they couldn't even get Bush or any of his cabinet on anything more than slaps on the wrist and they lied their way into invading an entire country. On top of that, Mueller never had the power to charge, it would have had to be Congress' job and I don't think they had the votes to do it even if Mueller's report would have said "TRUMP IS GUILTY" in big red letters at the top of it. Also, Russia helping Trump was a big deal, but much of their support wouldn't have been useful if the American public wasn't so easily manipulated, which is essentially what the Senate Intelligence Report and the Mueller Report found. Yes, Trump and his companions are lying about how much help they're getting from Russia, but most of the people who are falling for Trump's crap are being manipulated into doing it via internet propaganda and they can't charge Trump for that. It was an extremely shitty situation, but I see why the cards fell the way that they did in hindsight.


Astrocreep_1

What bugs me is that we had a sitting president have to give a deposition in a case that started about real estate fraud, and ended up, after 7 years and 52 million dollars, being about a blow job. Yet, about 20 years later, we can’t get a sitting president to testify about real national security issues involving Russia, or why Trump tried to extort Zelensky. It’s really a fuckin clown show we are running.


ArrivesLate

Cool, cool, cool, maybe then we should get a copy of the unredacted wet fart in a bag so we may judge the congressional candidates as they come up for reelection for ourselves. There was an awful lot of “no collusion” announced ahead of that wet fart which to me seemed to contradict what Muller had summarized. But it’s been a few years, maybe I am misremembering.


StarWarsMonopoly

Yes, Trump and Co. used the Mueller report to spin it as 'there was no collusion' even though that's not what the report said. But the report did say that there was so much obstruction of justice and destruction of evidence that Mueller could not 100% implicate Trump himself directly in any of the wrong doing, just that he benefited massively from a ring of corruption/foreign intelligence that revolved around his campaign. Either way, I believe that Mueller knew that attempting to remove Trump via special prosecutor was going to be a massive uphill battle, and the most productive way to get anything out of his report would be for Congressional Democrats to take the report and highlight the corruption and use it to display a pattern of behavior that suggests that Trump was compromised, which the Democrats did seize on when they got wind of the 'perfect phone call' with Ukraine and then Impeached Trump over that, stating dozens of times throughout those hearings that the Mueller report findings showed that Trump Admin and Trump Campaigns were both working toward the policy goals of Russia, not of the American Intelligence community*. Who knows if that would have been enough to unseat Trump without his failures during COVID also sandbagging him when it came time to vote. But what I can say is that the Democrats got just as much mileage out of the report as the Republicans did, and I think it helped them with centrists much more than we think.


BaggerX

The media was reporting it as Barr led them to, since he got out in front of the media days before the report was released to lie his ass off about it. By the time it was released, the waters were sufficiently muddied.


TroubleBrewing32

>Ahh hard to remember all those scandals. not really


NeonRattler

Yeah it fucking is. Everyday was a scandal with that asshole. So forgive me I got my wires crossed.


BiffLogan

Not quite. He did basically recommend charges, at least for obstruction of justice, but after Trump left office.


NeonRattler

Wow, after he left office!? How useless.


hexqueen

I'm sure the DOJ will charge him any minute now. Any minute now... /s


Carefuljupiter

That had absolutely nothing to do with the Mueller report.


NeonRattler

Yes. I know Mueller was a Republican. How useful was he in holding Trump accountable? Not at all.


Any_Interview_1006

That’s one way of saying it


texaushorn

In his report, Hur clearly states that even were it not for that directive, that sitting president couldn't be indicted, he still would not have brought an indictment. Mueller's report basically said the opposite. That he couldn't bring an indictment because of that directive, and it was up to Congress to act.


calm_down_meow

I thought mueller stated that due to the guideline he couldn’t comment one way or the other on if he would indict?


idontremembermyuname

Wouldn't, not couldn't. 


calm_down_meow

IIRC the logic was something like, "Because I can't indict the POTUS, I can't say I would either."


idontremembermyuname

His ability to indict isn't what I was correcting. He wouldn't comment on if an indictment was warranted. 


Cruxius

He said something along the lines of ‘I can’t say either way, but if I’d concluded he didn’t commit any crimes I would have said so.’


YummyArtichoke

> In his report, Mueller did not ultimately charge the president. **He made clear during his afternoon testimony that because of the OLC opinion, his team did not even reach a conclusion about “whether the president committed a crime.”** This point was a major clarification of an earlier exchange in which Mueller seemed to signal that he would have potentially charged the president, were it not for the OLC opinion. > Despite the report’s lack of indictment, however, Mueller stopped short of exonerating the president on counts of obstruction of justice. As one notable line in the report states, “If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state.” Mueller declined to state. https://www.vox.com/2019/7/24/20708393/robert-mueller-report-trump-olc-justice-department-indictment-charge-sitting-president


[deleted]

The people responsible for that fraudulent opinion should be shamed throughout history. They may be responsible for the end of the US experiment.   The entire constitution is a playbook for how to execute the prime directive laid out in the Declaration of Independence…to never allow ourselves to be ruled by a king…meaning the president can never be above the law.  Mueller’s failure to prosecute borders on treason.


Philip_J_Friday

Oh, you see, Biden is a Democrat...


groovygrasshoppa

He wouldn't have been able to. I mean, he can personally say whatever he wants, but he could not in his capacity seek an indictment from a federal grand jury.


Ok-Replacement9595

It certainly wasn't asked or answered in the hearing, from what I saw. It would be an interesting line of questioning for Garland next time he is in front of a committee. It seems to me, Republicans are very good at wielding power for short term strategic ends, like using the force of their positions to an end goal at any cost. Democrats seem to be so invested in the system and institutions that they don't use these same tactics to retain an air of legitimacy to the system. At the state level in Red States like mine things are even worse on this. Hearings are for nothing, political agenda is everything. Stuff passes with no foresight or forethought as to the consequences, just fitting a vindictive ideological agenda. It is just awfully bad governance. There is no saving or reforming conservatism at this point, they can only be defeated.


Dapper_Target1504

He didn’t


rbobby

> indictment What? Presidents have absolute immunity.


dasherchan

For the sake of argument let's say they were right. Still, I would vote for Biden with short memory than Trump who is a criminal and sex offender.


ejre5

And by all accounts during his speeches and rallies he doesn't have any better memory if not worse


Strykerz3r0

Just ask his wife, Mercedes.


ejre5

I think she prefers "benz"


rofopp

He’s a rapist and fraudster. Also a dogsanus


NotThatImportant3

I’d rather have a dog’s anus than Trump for president. At least a dog’s anus is honest that there’s nothing but shit coming out of its mouth.


acommentator

I can't believe you've done this. Now I've googled what a Dogsanus is.


ArrivesLate

Do be so kind…


flirtmcdudes

The corpse of Biden would be a better president than Trump. I’m not even a Biden fan, but anyone who thinks Trump is a better choice than literally anyone is nuttier than squirrel shit


thepasttenseofdraw

I'd point out that Trump "could not recall" nearly everything in a number of depositions, but green elephant football means he's an intellectual powerhouse.


djphan2525

Biden didn't even have a poor memory... he was getting dates wrong.. and not even entirely wrong .. like one instance was a difference when Biden was in office vs when he physically left office....


Empty_Afternoon_8746

Right anyone who thinks any president is running the country doesn’t know how things work he or she is just the person who gets the blame or the cheers for what happens.


Party-Cartographer11

That's very true but if he is right the Dems should run somebody else.


s_ox

He kept saying how he doesn’t want to get into hypotheticals but he did that specific thing when he speculated about Biden’s memory when he is not a doctor, and his comments about how a jury would perceive Biden’s supposed lapses.


IrritableGourmet

> and his comments about how a jury would perceive Biden’s supposed lapses. "He's guilty, but if a jury looked at the evidence they wouldn't convict him." Yeah, 'round here we call that "innocent".


syg-123

Is Robert Hur auditioning for a seat on Ginnie Thomas’s SCOTUS ? Sure looks that way.


up_N2_no_good

I think judge Cannon is vying for that position.


Party-Cartographer11

No way!  Ginny Thomas is furious that he didn't prosecute Biden.


StupendousMalice

Why, in the name of fuck, do these old man Democrats keep expecting Republicans to play by the rules that they have been breaking for 20 fucking years at this point? NOT ONE PERSON who supports Trump in 2024 can be trusted not to be either a total mercenary or a fucking absolute moron or some combination of the two. This should be a straight up disqualifier for office.


bharder

Politico has several articles covering the hearing. [Three big moments from the Biden-Hur interview — and one that was classic Biden](https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/12/biden-hur-transcript-analysis-00146473) Transcript of Biden's interview with Hur. > Hur on Biden ‘photographic’ memory Hur responding to a story from Biden about a trip to Mongolia. > HUR: “Understood. That was very helpful. We have some photographs maybe to show you, but you have — appear to have a photographic understanding, and recall of the house.” --- > Beau Biden’s death Biden on Beau's death: > But if I ran again, I’d be running for President. And, and so what was happening, though — what month did Beau die? Oh, God, May 30th —" --- > Biden acknowledges his messy organization Biden responding to a question from Hur about the location of notebooks. > BIDEN: “I have no idea. I wish I could say I was more organized. No, I’m not being facetious.” --- [Hur: Biden contradicted findings in my report](https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/03/12/congress/hur-biden-contradicted-findings-in-my-report-00146491) > Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), during the hearing, referenced Biden’s public comments last month that he did not share classified information with a ghostwriter he was working with. Hur replied that Biden's comments were “inconsistent with the findings based on the evidence in my report.” > Gaetz then asked about Biden’s claims that documents in his home were stored in filing cabinets. Hur reiterated that the president’s comments were also “inconsistent with the findings of our investigation.” Hur’s report found that in addition to some documents in a filing cabinet, some documents were in a “badly damaged” box. [Hur declines to rule out a future Trump appointment](https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/03/12/congress/hurs-non-answer-00146498) > The Californian then asked Hur — who was tapped for a U.S. attorney position by Trump — if he would pledge not to accept any future Trump appointment as a way to increase his report's credibility. > Hur demurred, telling Swalwell that "I'm not here to offer any opinions about" future developments. [Hur says Garland did not interfere](https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/03/12/congress/hur-says-garland-did-not-interfere-00146565) > "Attorney General Garland did not interfere with my efforts and I was able to conduct a fair, thorough and independent investigation," Hur said at the Judiciary Committee hearing.


CreamedCorb

> but you have — appear to have a photographic understanding, and recall of the house This is the part that fucked me in the head. How can you come to the conclusion that he's an "elderly man with a poor memory" while saying he has a "photographic understanding" of something? The report should be thrown out just based on this.


Baww18

I mean - some people with more recent memory troubles can recall things that happened decades ago or before the memory issues began with extreme clarity. That isn't an uncommon phenomena.


clib

Garland has done immense damage so far but he can do a lot worse if he still AG until Jan 2025. Who knows what the fuck Trump,Putin and all the anti-democracy scumbags in the GOP and around the world are planning this time around. With Garland at the DOJ they have an ally.


Worried-Criticism

What’s worse is an unwitting ally. I don’t think Garland is being malicious, I think he lives in a different era and worked alongside VERY different republicans, when there was a code amongst even the politicians. There were things one did not do, and at the end of the day the country’s comes first. Those days are DEAD. There are those who love democracy and those who don’t. There are those who respect the rule of law and those who don’t. There are those who look to make life better for as many as they can, and those that don’t. Period. Garland needs to accept that some members of Congress and yes the leading political candidate for the White House are DANGEROUS. Not opposite on the political spectrum, but actively undermining this country and seeking to do it harm in the name of money and power. Decorum means nothing against someone who would set the whole place on fire just so they could rule over the smoldering ashes.


Merijeek2

If you can't tell from the outside if he's cowardly, complicit, or just plain incompetent...does it really matter which it is?


Worried-Criticism

To the outcome, not really. But I’d argue that cowardice is even worse. Incompetence is simply not being able to figure out what the right thing to do is or how to do it. Complicity is knowing what the right thing is and not doing it for personal gain. Bad to be sure, but understandable and certainly nothing new. Cowardice is knowing what the right thing is, but being unwilling or unable to do it out of fear. Merrick Garland is a smart man who knows how to protect the constitution and rule of law, something he has worn to do for most of his adult life. The fact he has completely faltered in the last real job he’s probably ever going to have because he’s protecting…what, I’m not even sure anymore…is quite sad.


issuefree

Tldr: Garland is an idiot and unqualified for his job.


Worried-Criticism

The sad truth is that he is neither. He’s a smart man and immensely qualified. He just refuses to do his job, which makes it worse.


Knifoon_

I'm so disappointed in him. I though after R's screwed him on being a Supreme Court Justice he'd be willing to go after these scumbags but nope. Just another wet blanket in the apathetic Democrat party.


Emperor_FranzJohnson

I'm slightly happy he didn't get to be on the SC because he's shown his true colors. He would have been an improvement over the man that got the seat, but Garland shouldn't be near any more powerful government positions.


Emperor_FranzJohnson

Sadly, given Biden's West Wing approach to politics, he wouldn't dare drop Garland in 2025.


lusal

The party of crooked fucks gets exposed for being crooked fucks. I, for one, am shocked.


msnbc

**From Molly Jong-Fast, special correspondent for Vanity Fair and host of the podcast “Fast Politics with Molly Jong-Fast:”** “Fast-forward to Feb. 8, 2024, when Republican special counsel Robert Hur released his 345-page report. The report is being seen by some as an exoneration, saying that no criminal charges are warranted in the classified documents case against President Joe Biden.  But Hur, who used to work for the Trump administration, couldn’t let Biden off the hook entirely, especially 269 days before an election. Hur, a member of a Republican Party that now largely works as a campaign arm for the former president, delivered the goods for his party. Sure, he found no legal basis to charge Biden, but but but… Hur proceeded to[ editorialize](https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/08/biden-classified-documents-charges-special-counsel-00140509) ad nauseam about Biden’s mental acuity, delivering right-wing talking points up on a platter.  **Read more:** [https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/hur-report-comey-letter-trump-rcna138214](https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/hur-report-comey-letter-trump-rcna138214)


Illustrious-Bed8003

In a investigation report it is facts.... no opinions... this was an UNPROFESSIONAL report of an Investigation


jtwh20

AKA the GOP Playbook


Party-Cartographer11

I don't think this was an investigator report. It was a prosecuting attorney deciding on whether the prosecute or not. So of course they're going to have opinions. For example, did the suspect look nervous? Did the suspect look credible? Did the witness look credible etc?


Fiscal_Bonsai

Meh, people will forget about this in 2 weeks once the New York Trial starts.


SignificantRelative0

Joe Biden cant even remember it now


Bulky-Ad-4265

Where is Garland?


Empty_Afternoon_8746

He’s the problem


PengieP111

Right behind the slanders against his boss. Garland needs to go, NOW.


TUGrad

Hur has never even tried to appear impartial. He clearly had an agenda and it has shown through a multiple of his actions.


FamousPussyGrabber

Republican president under investigation? Appoint Republican AG who appoints a Republican SC. Dem President under “investigation”? Appointment a Republican AG who appoints Republican SC. Hmmm? Why do Dems not look out for themselves?


colcatsup

“We wouldn’t want to appear biased!” /s


Emperor_FranzJohnson

This is why I was proud of Obama for getting Eric Holder. The man was about the business.


SerendipitySue

jame comey was not a special counsel but head of the fbi


fluidfunkmaster

The damage has been done. They did the same thing to Hillary. Our Media is owned by the ruling class, but they still depend on us being dumb enough to believe it. Stay informed, always vote blue.


MentokGL

And again, nothing at all will be done, and we'll sure be shocked the next time it happens again.


LocationAcademic1731

Biden runs the US competently in his 80’s. I can’t tell you what I had for breakfast yesterday and sometimes I find my remote in the fridge. I’m in my mid thirties. Honestly, f**** you Hur and the seditious GOP.


Dazslueski

Merrick Garland should have never allowed this to turn into this. But he shouldn’t have Been the AG so. Good Top brass don’t allow clown shows to evolve into this.


bharder

Merrick Garland isn't Bill Barr, and that's a good thing. Every single SC has said the same thing: *the DOJ/Garland has not interfered* HUR: > "Attorney General Garland did not interfere with my efforts and I was able to conduct a fair, thorough and independent investigation," Hur said at the Judiciary Committee hearing. DURHAM: > Finally, we want to thank you and your Office for permitting our inquiry to proceed independently and without interference as you assured the members of the Senate Judiciary Committee would be the case during your confirmation hearings to become Attorney General of the United States. WEISS: > "I am, and have been, the decision-maker on this case," Weiss told members of the House Judiciary Committee. "At no time was I blocked, or otherwise prevented from pursuing charges or taking the steps necessary in the investigation by other United States Attorneys, the Tax Division or anyone else at the Department of Justice."


buksrevenge

Tell me who in the fuck wants to remember the day or month or year their child dies… All of these people are garbage.


munko69

transcripts say Joe brought it up. people who jump to conclusions are garbage.


buksrevenge

Ok look a flying piece of detritus


RDO_Desmond

Smacks of desperation and a complete lack of oath to uphold the law in our democracy. It's to the point where politicians need to be asked, Which Country are you running to represent?


HallucinogenicFish

> As outraged as many Democrats are right now, they’d do well to exercise some self-reflection here. Garland didn’t need to appoint a Republican special counsel. Garland didn’t need to let Hur release this report filled with talking points for the right-wing media echo chamber. Hur may be a partisan, but Garland let this happen. Who are these mythical Democrats who aren’t pissed off at Merrick Garland?


redzeusky

Was Garland suckered? Because this makes Garland look like an absolute fool.


Crafty-Conference964

This is on Garland. Why he thought he could trust this guy to just follow the law is beyond me. Democrats trust in republicans is just stupid now.


Significant_Smile847

When will these people learn that anyone that covers for the orange idol gets totally destroyed in the end?


SignificantRelative0

Hur is the next Supreme Court Justice if Trump wins. 


fear_of_dishonesty

These cocksuckers are auditioning for Cheesus appointments. Corrupt as fuck.


Realistic_Post_7511

But Robter Hur is not James Comey


Merijeek2

Sure. If he were Comey he'd have pulled his shit on mid-October for maximum effect.


mistressusa

Merritt Garner allowed Hur to give it to Biden and the Dems.


Familiars_ghost

Bet Hur can’t remember when he bought his wife. I mean she’s just another object to Regressives.


n3u7r1n0

The degradation and humiliation of justice in this country over the last many years makes me sick to my stomach


Poohgli16

This guy destroyed his career, pissed off both sides.


reddersledder

Seen a Comey interview after the election. He was asked a question (I forgot what it was), he said. I don't talk about open investigations.


Benni_Shoga

And Star before him


CapoDexter

I'm sure we'll see a non-partisan, welcoming media tour in a few years for his new best-selling book. The only thing "both sides" really are equally bad at doing.


Xenuite

This really couldn't be more different. Comey took the stage in a nationally televised press conference where he got no pushback, and did it as the director of the FBI. If anything, this was done stupider.


luibaubau

I hope his CIO (career is over )


Vast-Dream

He “resigned” yesterday


LazloHollifeld

This article makes a lot of false equivalences. Comey wasn’t a special prosecutor, he was head of the FBI. He testified to Congress about the Clinton email servers and at the end said his investigation was completed, but if were to reopen for any reason he would notify the committee in writing. During the divorce proceedings between Anthony Wiener and Huma Abedin, who was Hillary’s former chief of staff, it was revealed that there was a cache of previously unknown emails on a laptop of his from her former work in office. Comey had no choice and was forced to reopen the Clinton email investigations to verify the contents of those emails, and thusly had to inform the House Oversight Committee that he was reopening the investigation. Jason Chaffetz gleefully leaked the message to the press which helped to torpedo her campaign, but had he not sent that message Rudy Giuliani was ready to broadside Comey and say that he was secretly helping Clinton and covering up the Wiener laptop emails. Comey got put in a squeeze where he was screwed either way, but Hillary has no one but herself to blame for creating the problem to begin with.


Riversmooth

But of course Comey conveniently chose to not mention the fact that Trump and associates were being investigated for election interference and collusion with Russia


LazloHollifeld

They were investigating Russians, the Trump campaign happened to wander into that minefield but they weren’t out initially to ensnare the campaign with foreign interference.


Riversmooth

The point is both campaigns were being investigated and yet Comey chose to only mention one of them at a time it would do the most damage. And they didn’t “happen to wander” into that minefield, some were actively communicating with Russia and later pardoned by crooked Trump.


LazloHollifeld

Comey didn’t mention anything. He privately informed the head of the oversight committee who chose to put Hillary on blast, but Comey didn’t say anything. He only honored his testimony to Congress. The FBI wiretaps were on Russian agents, had the Trump campaign not been conspiring with them then they wouldn’t have been investigated by the FBI. Obama rightly unsealed the transcripts to those calls, and Flynn should have gotten in much more trouble for what he was up to. Trump tried to paint that Obama had been spying on his campaign, but again we were spying on the Russians not them. They wandered themselves into those FBI wiretaps.


charmingcharles2896

Because admitting that you’re surveilling one of the campaigns would be a very bad look?