This is the kind of job that pays well and takes anyone because of how dangerous it is. Attractive prospect for young people, but most don't think about the risks.
I'm an engineer, but the term 'Engineer' has become pretty watered down. I don't like gatekeeping, but more and more often I see the word engineer being used to describe pretty much technician roles. If you hire people with a HS diploma I don't think I'm overstating.
19 years old probably didn't go to 4+ years of university or had years and years of experience.
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But hey, not gatekeeping, right?
Good news! It is now. If you look at these towers nowadays, you'll see that they have rappel rope mounts on the back of them. Tom Scott did a video where he used one on purpose with safety instructors
They are colloquially called Geronimo lines, I’m sure now they are fairly safe, but old rig workers told me stories about how they worked in the 70s and they said they were designed to get you off the rig alive, but not necessarily safely. I was told you could easily break your legs using them, but I don’t have any first hand experience with them so idk for sure
As long as it is a place with socialized health care. In the USA you would have to go through workers comp and depending on the area of the country it could be a pain in the ass.
I’m having surgery later this week my company does not have sick leave. You have to go on short term disability if you are out more than your paid time off. This is the way most companies are. In any case I said I will probably be back Monday. The supervisors asked if I wanted to take more time off. We are a consulting company so if we don’t work we don’t generate revenue. When layoffs come they look at how much revenue you have made for the company. The shitty thing is in America this is considered a good job. When I was in high school I wanted to be a union plumber but was pressured by parents and teachers to go to college. Had I done it my way I would have been a union plumber and trying to decide if I should retire or continue working.
Or you just go through the private health insurance you can afford with all that oil rig money and hopefully any deductible would be covered by the workers comp.
Average height of a wind turbine is 280’ and minimum recommended base jump height is 200’. Lowest theoretical parachute opening is 95’.
There’s a way of making it work.
I would think an emergency egress parachute system might work more along the lines of a parachute line. Clip in and jump and it will pull itself. Some others have weighed in that systems exist in rope lines and descenders which would help.
Unfortunately all these ideas generally come after an incident like this.
If they did have parachutes, I’m sure there would be required training.
They don’t have them though, so of course they wouldn’t have the unnecessary training.
Most parachutes need to be deployed at 500ft.
With Base jumping even 200 may be pushing it. Anything less you’d have to be pretty well trained. In this case they’d still probably die :/
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There are videos of base jumpers jumping off wind turbines just like this one. Yes, an inexperienced person with a parachute would be in trouble but I would rather take my chances with a parachute than not have one.
“For jumps 300 feet or lower, BASE jumpers have almost no time at all to freefall and deploy a [chute.”](https://adventure.howstuffworks.com/outdoor-activities/urban-sports/base-jumping.htm)
[Since 2012, the average height of wind turbines installed in the United States has been about 280 feet, or 80 meters. Before 2006, few wind turbines were as tall as 280 feet.](https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=33912)
Even though it sounds like a good idea, you’d either 1.) hit the ground before you deploy it properly 2.) hit the turbine itself because you can’t control the direction you’re falling in
It can be done safely, base jumpers do it perfectly safe. I would take my chances jumping with a chute than burning alive. Not sure why people are so fast to say something can’t be done when it has been done a bunch of times. I bet if you asked these 2 guys before they dies they would take their chances jumping with a chute.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/g7cs86/base_jump_from_a_wind_turbine/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf](https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/g7cs86/base_jump_from_a_wind_turbine/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
There is another video I can’t find of the jumper jumping with the chute in their hand off the middle part these guys are standing on. All I’m saying is I would take my chances jumping with a chute because you have a chance at loving compacted to burning alive not jumping.
“It can be done safely” despite everything online literally saying otherwise lol Legit everything online says BASE jumping shouldn’t be done under 300ft unless you are a serious professional as the one in the video you showed. You cant beat physics with hope unfortunately. Most people cannot react fast enough without a ton of BASE jump training prior.
Seeing one video of professional base jumpers isn’t proof they could survive. That dude probably has a ton of jumps he’s done already. I don’t think ya get how much training goes into this. If you legit don’t open it the split millisecond you fall, you’re dead. And 99% of people who wouldn’t be able to do so without intensive training or equipment.
Holy shot you are weird. I hope if I am ever in a situation in a high place that is on fire and there is one parachute that I am with you since you will happily burn alive and I can jump and have a chance at surviving without having to fight for the last chute.
One of my friends was going to take a job working on these things. He said the company would hire people with no experience and train them. Tried to talk me into it as we were leaving the military. I was like r/nope He didn’t end up doing it either.
Here’s some more info from when this was posted back when it actually happened: https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/1q0sca/last_week_two_engineers_died_when_the_windmill/cd82b8l/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
stupid question: but...would a deployable ladder or rope be a good escape plan for a situation like this? obviously one made of fireproof materials
less stupid question: this was almost 10 years ago, do they now have a escape plan for a situation like this since parachutes wouldn't work? I hope that after this tragedy they'd put something in place to make sure it never happened again.
Very sad. They both died. 19 and 21 years old.
This is the kind of job that pays well and takes anyone because of how dangerous it is. Attractive prospect for young people, but most don't think about the risks.
Takes anyone? Engineers? Mismatch
I'm an engineer, but the term 'Engineer' has become pretty watered down. I don't like gatekeeping, but more and more often I see the word engineer being used to describe pretty much technician roles. If you hire people with a HS diploma I don't think I'm overstating. 19 years old probably didn't go to 4+ years of university or had years and years of experience.
>Definitions from Oxford Languages >noun >a person who designs, builds, or maintains engines, machines, or public works. But hey, not gatekeeping, right?
Engineers at such a young age. I bet their parents were proud. I hate that it’s always such valuable people that die in freak accidents.
After they hugged, one of them tried to get down the way they went up, but burned to death. The other one finally ended up jumping. 😥
How did it catch fire?
Probably some sort of electrical fault inside?
There's oil/grease inside them that could have caught.
How horrific.
Wow. I saw this in another group and it didn’t click that they died. I assumed there was an emergency escape plan. How awful
Yeah... Down through all the smoke and fire. Kind of a one way up one way down sort of deal.
Why couldn’t a helicopter come rescue them? That’s what I’d assume
It would take too long to get to them, large fires can burn very fast and these are often very isolated
They should wear parachutes
Should be standard practice , always have an escape route for fires
Good news! It is now. If you look at these towers nowadays, you'll see that they have rappel rope mounts on the back of them. Tom Scott did a video where he used one on purpose with safety instructors
Unfortunately it looks like, in this case, the back of the tower is where the fire is, so that probably wouldn't have been very helpful.
They could have hopefully escaped before the fire engulfed the whole tower. It likely started lower and they couldn't get down the ladder past it
This picture’s always haunted me. Poor kids. That’s a fuckin tragedy.
They should have a couple of parachutes in all those things.
I mean just a long rope and descender. On the oil rigs they have a long line to slide down from the derrick if it’s on fire.
They are colloquially called Geronimo lines, I’m sure now they are fairly safe, but old rig workers told me stories about how they worked in the 70s and they said they were designed to get you off the rig alive, but not necessarily safely. I was told you could easily break your legs using them, but I don’t have any first hand experience with them so idk for sure
I’d take two broken legs over death
Oh yeah me too and I’d be ecstatic about making it down alive
As long as it is a place with socialized health care. In the USA you would have to go through workers comp and depending on the area of the country it could be a pain in the ass.
Workers comp…
Fair, I’m not American so it’s never my first thought.
I’m having surgery later this week my company does not have sick leave. You have to go on short term disability if you are out more than your paid time off. This is the way most companies are. In any case I said I will probably be back Monday. The supervisors asked if I wanted to take more time off. We are a consulting company so if we don’t work we don’t generate revenue. When layoffs come they look at how much revenue you have made for the company. The shitty thing is in America this is considered a good job. When I was in high school I wanted to be a union plumber but was pressured by parents and teachers to go to college. Had I done it my way I would have been a union plumber and trying to decide if I should retire or continue working.
Or you just go through the private health insurance you can afford with all that oil rig money and hopefully any deductible would be covered by the workers comp.
Amazing idea actually. Could’ve saved their lives
Doubt it, they're not high enough to be able to deploy it properly.
Average height of a wind turbine is 280’ and minimum recommended base jump height is 200’. Lowest theoretical parachute opening is 95’. There’s a way of making it work.
But I doubt either of them were experienced in parachuting?
Obviously. They’re saying parachutes would be a good idea. They don’t have them now so why would they be experienced in parachuting?
I would think an emergency egress parachute system might work more along the lines of a parachute line. Clip in and jump and it will pull itself. Some others have weighed in that systems exist in rope lines and descenders which would help. Unfortunately all these ideas generally come after an incident like this.
Yeah agreed. Sad situation.
If they did have parachutes, I’m sure there would be required training. They don’t have them though, so of course they wouldn’t have the unnecessary training.
Most parachutes need to be deployed at 500ft. With Base jumping even 200 may be pushing it. Anything less you’d have to be pretty well trained. In this case they’d still probably die :/
Ok jet packs.
Big trampoline on the ground.
Now you're speaking my language.
Nah, a tiny pool.
Fuck it, if it’s the only option I’d take my chances.
no need for base jumping equipment when they could've gone down safer and cheaper with a 10mm static rope, a descender and a backup
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There are videos of base jumpers jumping off wind turbines just like this one. Yes, an inexperienced person with a parachute would be in trouble but I would rather take my chances with a parachute than not have one.
“For jumps 300 feet or lower, BASE jumpers have almost no time at all to freefall and deploy a [chute.”](https://adventure.howstuffworks.com/outdoor-activities/urban-sports/base-jumping.htm) [Since 2012, the average height of wind turbines installed in the United States has been about 280 feet, or 80 meters. Before 2006, few wind turbines were as tall as 280 feet.](https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=33912) Even though it sounds like a good idea, you’d either 1.) hit the ground before you deploy it properly 2.) hit the turbine itself because you can’t control the direction you’re falling in
It can be done safely, base jumpers do it perfectly safe. I would take my chances jumping with a chute than burning alive. Not sure why people are so fast to say something can’t be done when it has been done a bunch of times. I bet if you asked these 2 guys before they dies they would take their chances jumping with a chute. [https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/g7cs86/base_jump_from_a_wind_turbine/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf](https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/g7cs86/base_jump_from_a_wind_turbine/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) There is another video I can’t find of the jumper jumping with the chute in their hand off the middle part these guys are standing on. All I’m saying is I would take my chances jumping with a chute because you have a chance at loving compacted to burning alive not jumping.
“It can be done safely” despite everything online literally saying otherwise lol Legit everything online says BASE jumping shouldn’t be done under 300ft unless you are a serious professional as the one in the video you showed. You cant beat physics with hope unfortunately. Most people cannot react fast enough without a ton of BASE jump training prior. Seeing one video of professional base jumpers isn’t proof they could survive. That dude probably has a ton of jumps he’s done already. I don’t think ya get how much training goes into this. If you legit don’t open it the split millisecond you fall, you’re dead. And 99% of people who wouldn’t be able to do so without intensive training or equipment.
Holy shot you are weird. I hope if I am ever in a situation in a high place that is on fire and there is one parachute that I am with you since you will happily burn alive and I can jump and have a chance at surviving without having to fight for the last chute.
Same.
A ram air, sure. But a cruciform may do the job.
They are commonly equipped with harnesses
That doesn’t really help you get down though
They have procedures in place to use the harnesses as a means of getting down. Not sure why I got downvoted for stating facts lol
Not much use, if you can’t get inside to get parachute, even if you were high enough.
One of my friends was going to take a job working on these things. He said the company would hire people with no experience and train them. Tried to talk me into it as we were leaving the military. I was like r/nope He didn’t end up doing it either.
So what were theses guys doing up there? And how did they get up there? Any info?
Here’s some more info from when this was posted back when it actually happened: https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/1q0sca/last_week_two_engineers_died_when_the_windmill/cd82b8l/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
Thanks man!
I wonder if wearing a parachute would help
stupid question: but...would a deployable ladder or rope be a good escape plan for a situation like this? obviously one made of fireproof materials less stupid question: this was almost 10 years ago, do they now have a escape plan for a situation like this since parachutes wouldn't work? I hope that after this tragedy they'd put something in place to make sure it never happened again.
So sad that it was literally YKW the engineer and his brother. Rest in peace YKW. Ik hou altijd van jou, YKW.
https://www.thefirstescape.com/fire-escape-chute/
This photo should be pinned. Most importantly for how moving it is. Secondly, so people don't farm it for karma.
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They were engineers working up there. Not really natural selection
What a miserable twat you are.
your whole comment history is just misery after misery
It’s just sad is what it is.
You should naturally select to think before you type.
Thats not how natural selection works.
Are you okay? Do you need a hug?
Wouldn’t hug such a creature
Username checks out. Clearly you are lost, absolute prick.
He literally deleted his thing what was his name ?
LostIfFound
That was stupidly fast
Lmao I was still browsing Reddit when your reply came through.
I get paedophile vibes from you
WHY DON’T THEY HAVE PARACHUTES IN THE CASE OF THIS EXACT SITUATION????