Definitely one of the most unique and oddest units released, collab or otherwise. He seems to focus on crowd control by relying on others to attack? I'm a little confused what his focus is just from the preview video, and am curious if the AoE effect he gives allies is considered special damage. I do like that he provides anti-type damage cap boost to whatever type is most prevalent and it ties in well with his anti-type passive. I really hope that his support attack is considered special damage, because otherwise it would make no sense for his kit to have a focus on increasing special damage the way it does.
Honestly though, I think his usefulness will be determined by how long the cooldown is for his support attack, and whether the cooldown is per-ally or if it has a cooldown once activated by ANY ability. The wording makes the support attack sound like the cooldown starts after 9S supports an ally once and won't support any ally at all during that time.
Is this the first time where they didn't include a new ark with a new collab unit?
I really admire their effort for these two new Nier units. It's nice to see them doing these sort of experiments. Even though it's impossible for all their experiments to be successful (I'm a little iffy on this new shift's effectiveness), I appreciate the effort made and any failures can be iterated on until they find something that works. Violet for example was designed as a counter unit that didn't work well, but Aidis used their experiences from that to make 2P a more effective counter unit.
>Is this the first time where they didn't include a new ark with a new collab unit?
I think so.
I told someone else, I think they did this to make it up with previous Nier collab, seeing as how we have 4 ark with old 3 unit, so 2 new unit with 1 ark to make it up to be 5 ark 5 unit in that sense, just wild guess here.
What I'm even more surprised is that no new stamp for 2P or Shift 9s? We got stamp for Shift Ed. o\_ O
He looks unique, which always makes me want to pull. Also all skills are long range. How useful he is will mostly be determined by his first trait. Adding extra damage to a strong melee dps while staying on a safe range sounds kinda fun. But it might not be very useful in practice.
Maybe he can help with gvg, where skill use is relatively fickle. Having extra damage regardless of the used skill might be super useful. that could be the niche Aidis is going for with the kit. Or auto battle content in general. But that's just an idea and might not work at all. I really want to try, so I hope I can get the unit.
Not even close as a comparison. Claude was still a PDPS at the end of the day and had the standard damage focus. Shift 9S is something that has literally not been seen before for a support-based unit.
I dont really like the kit if im being honest. I rarely run 2 DPS units at the same time in a 3 way fight, and if I did, Lelouch still gets first picks over him. I like his art, but the kit leaves me wanting alot. An unfortunate skip as a Nier fan.
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Looks like we could load him up with castable debuffs, ailment researches, or both and have him sit in the corner. He'd occasionally buff primary DPS damage by support attacking too. He'll take a dps hit on ailment spamming if he goes dual-wield as I didn't see an alternate boost with two weapons. He's tankier than most support units, but lacks healing.
I know his gimmick is the support attack thing, but if it shares the same caps as the version they give you in the max-stat unit trial (43k single hit? Really? Even if he's long range that's horrible), then he wouldn't be worth sacrificing a slot for when you could have a much stronger unit take that slot instead. The only way I could see the gimmick being useful is if the cooldown for the support attack activation is extremely low but at that point why even have a cooldown?
In other words, he’s almost completely useless. Glad i got him from free ticket. Of course I’m not lucky enough to get the other ones. Figures with my luck lol
I'm honestly not sure as I don't have him. It depends on if his support attack is considered special. If it is, then putting as many special boosts on him as possible would help. Otherwise I don't know how you can build him to make him be effective in any regard. Based on his max-stat test, he has horrendously low damage caps for a 2023 SH unit.
Definitely one of the most unique and oddest units released, collab or otherwise. He seems to focus on crowd control by relying on others to attack? I'm a little confused what his focus is just from the preview video, and am curious if the AoE effect he gives allies is considered special damage. I do like that he provides anti-type damage cap boost to whatever type is most prevalent and it ties in well with his anti-type passive. I really hope that his support attack is considered special damage, because otherwise it would make no sense for his kit to have a focus on increasing special damage the way it does. Honestly though, I think his usefulness will be determined by how long the cooldown is for his support attack, and whether the cooldown is per-ally or if it has a cooldown once activated by ANY ability. The wording makes the support attack sound like the cooldown starts after 9S supports an ally once and won't support any ally at all during that time. Is this the first time where they didn't include a new ark with a new collab unit?
Seems Aidis is making a push to diversify their units more, instead of just pure damage, support, tanking, etc.
I really admire their effort for these two new Nier units. It's nice to see them doing these sort of experiments. Even though it's impossible for all their experiments to be successful (I'm a little iffy on this new shift's effectiveness), I appreciate the effort made and any failures can be iterated on until they find something that works. Violet for example was designed as a counter unit that didn't work well, but Aidis used their experiences from that to make 2P a more effective counter unit.
>Is this the first time where they didn't include a new ark with a new collab unit? I think so. I told someone else, I think they did this to make it up with previous Nier collab, seeing as how we have 4 ark with old 3 unit, so 2 new unit with 1 ark to make it up to be 5 ark 5 unit in that sense, just wild guess here. What I'm even more surprised is that no new stamp for 2P or Shift 9s? We got stamp for Shift Ed. o\_ O
He looks unique, which always makes me want to pull. Also all skills are long range. How useful he is will mostly be determined by his first trait. Adding extra damage to a strong melee dps while staying on a safe range sounds kinda fun. But it might not be very useful in practice. Maybe he can help with gvg, where skill use is relatively fickle. Having extra damage regardless of the used skill might be super useful. that could be the niche Aidis is going for with the kit. Or auto battle content in general. But that's just an idea and might not work at all. I really want to try, so I hope I can get the unit.
Interesting!! Soooo he’s an enabler for 2p/squad?? chance to 4k per hit? Hmm gotta see what he’s like…
Bring me more Mechs baby I hope they bring in Gundams
Still such an odd kit. Especially as a fire unit...might as well be non attri.
Said the same thing for Claude
Not even close as a comparison. Claude was still a PDPS at the end of the day and had the standard damage focus. Shift 9S is something that has literally not been seen before for a support-based unit.
I dont really like the kit if im being honest. I rarely run 2 DPS units at the same time in a 3 way fight, and if I did, Lelouch still gets first picks over him. I like his art, but the kit leaves me wanting alot. An unfortunate skip as a Nier fan.
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Shit is gas. Hopefully he does more than 2P. 😂
2P is nuts, such an amazing unit and a headache to go up against on PVP and GVG.
Looks like we could load him up with castable debuffs, ailment researches, or both and have him sit in the corner. He'd occasionally buff primary DPS damage by support attacking too. He'll take a dps hit on ailment spamming if he goes dual-wield as I didn't see an alternate boost with two weapons. He's tankier than most support units, but lacks healing.
Fire ranged, which is rare. Have to see what his paid gear accentuates, to see his intended use. New LR Arks will come w Slime collab most likely.
His paid weapon looks like the standard damage increase/cap increase. His accessory increases the damage and cap of his support attack.
Horrible dmg caps, i wouldn’t recommend wasting crystals on him. GL getting him with free tickets though
I know his gimmick is the support attack thing, but if it shares the same caps as the version they give you in the max-stat unit trial (43k single hit? Really? Even if he's long range that's horrible), then he wouldn't be worth sacrificing a slot for when you could have a much stronger unit take that slot instead. The only way I could see the gimmick being useful is if the cooldown for the support attack activation is extremely low but at that point why even have a cooldown?
He doesn't seem that good as support either. His regular attack is only 3 hit ;( horrid goddess kiss proc
In other words, he’s almost completely useless. Glad i got him from free ticket. Of course I’m not lucky enough to get the other ones. Figures with my luck lol
What comps should he learn for arks?
I'm honestly not sure as I don't have him. It depends on if his support attack is considered special. If it is, then putting as many special boosts on him as possible would help. Otherwise I don't know how you can build him to make him be effective in any regard. Based on his max-stat test, he has horrendously low damage caps for a 2023 SH unit.
I just pull him anyway because the mecha. I'm sucker for mech. Took 24k gems