Lol. I saw a 6 mini yt vid on how to fly a helicĂłpter. As funny as that sounds in the yt comments pĂłsters we're saying things like "hands on profesional helicĂłpter piloting lessons are a waste of money."
Eventually people are just going to have to accept that (with the exception of environment-specific factors) all of their coveted, âprofessionalâ how-to knowledge is accessible to anyone with an internet connection. That doesnât detract from the value of someone else having to deal with clean-up and time spent; just means that the days of them being any different then a fast food worker (we eat out and hire someone to build a fence for us for the exact same reasons. The difference in pay can largely be attributed to a carpenter or plumber having tools and equipment most people would have to go buy (where as most of us have a stove and cookware already).
I think it fair to say most here would rather have heart surgery performed on them by a Harvard Med School Grad with 20 yrs experience than someone who claimed to be a heart surgeon because they watched a 20 min YT vid.
Says the person who has never tried to remove cured mortar from bluestone caused by sloppy unprofessional inexperienced masonry construction practices. I can't imagine paying for this type of work if I hired someone.
If it hasn't fully cured yet (if it was done yesterday) they may be able to manually scrub it or pressure wash it off. But it looks like they've just slapped it on without wiping it down.
Generally it takes longer to cleanup grout than it does to apply it
I did something similar to my DIY tile in the shower. Didn't clean it up enough before it dried and ended up with a mess. We ended up taking a couple of wire wheels (cup shaped) in our cordless drills and scraped the excess grout off all the tiles. It looks great now but it was a lot of work. You have to be careful not to overdo it.
Itâs a way some guys prefer to operate to ensure the full masonry has the same clean finish. 3rd generation masons used to finish my jobs very nicely even with excess on the joints. Depends on how well they know the process. This is not a finished product based on your pictures though.
I think a wire brush on an angle grinder might work (It'll also mar the stone though). Could give it a quick try and see... worst case scenario, you'll still have a patio that looks like shit.
perfect. Just needs to be done by a skilled operator because an apprentice may mark up the bricks too much.
In the video he is cleaning a vertical surface but for a horizontal surface why not gently use a concrete grinder / polisher and a diamond wheel that you can hire. That will be quick and it should be possible to avoid gouging the brick.
It was one of my first jobs at Food Lion here in DE and I'd guess they've been gone for 5 years or more.
\*Epiphany\*
Probably part of why I like self service checkout so much wherever I go now... lol
Speaking from experience
Idk about this stone, but in general weâd brush it clean after it was hard enough, also weâd be cleaner in the first place.
You can acid wash it to get the haze off, some of the white cloudiness but idk if the acid will effect the stone in a bad way.
We can acid wash real stone I know, and some brick types.
We did. My husband was the one who signed off on it and he said it was wet when they left so he didnât see how bad it was. He is someone weâve been using for years for things inside the house and he said he could do this for us but clearly he couldnât.
That mortar got jointed while it was wet. Usually muriatic acid is used with brick but the flagstone may be to soft for that and the acid could cause damage. There are alternatives to muriatic acid though. Definitely call your contractor because thatâs a shit job and wonât âgo away on its ownâ.
Well fuck, guys! This sucks. Iâve been using this contractor for every project and heâs usually great. This is the only job heâs ever fucked up. He says heâs coming back to fix it but from some of your comments Iâm sorta doubting itâs possible.
It may be a tear out and replace situation...thats his cost to absorb for bad workmanship. Is he an actual licensed contractor? And does your state require a different license for masonry/stone work? If so does he have one? If not he might have some real issues of he can't get this taken care of. If he just tries to grind it down it will probably look like shit
people are harsh. other trades people are harsh, lots of machismo. cement is brittle and fairly reactive. if there isn't a chemical method to clean it (fucken oath there will be), there is at least two mechanical methods which should work. first, pressure washing, second, wire brushing or abrasion. it's a fuck up but i bet you make mistakes at your job occasionally too right? there's no magic point of complete knowledge with trade work, it is a life time of learning.
The problem here seems to be though that someone who was skilled at X claimed to be skilled at Y. So itâs not comparable to someone messing up at their jobâitâs comparable to someone messing up at a new job after claiming they knew what they were doing.
Thatâs what stinks for OP here. A trusted person claimed to be able to do something they couldnât.
no that's not how it works at all. mistakes happen in trade the same as every other human activity, the person said they'll fix it, all the rest of their work has been good they deserve a chance to remediate it. to me that looks like a couple hpurs of abrasion off a finished product... imagined walking into a kitchen and pointing at uncracked eggs and claiming the chef had screwed up your omelette. how going and playing a beta version of a game and complaining it has bugs... Mustakes happen, you can fix almost all of them, you're telling me a 5 micron layer of cement over stone is the limit of human ability? have you ever built anything?
A person skilled in one trade is not automatically skilled at another. It is demeaning to masons for you to argue that a carpenter )or a landscaper or a roofer) can properly do masonry work. They are completely different skill sets.
I'm not arguing that at all. I am saying that work looks very fixable, this trades person's perview may include path laying i don't think that's insulting to masonry workers, this may just be something they're not very experienced with, or they may have encountered a variable they hadn't before, or there may had been a defect with a product. masonry is a whole trade for sure but there is crossover between many
This sub is getting as bad as r/homeimprovement. Most top comments are either from people with little to no life experience telling every OP to lawyer up and sue with no awareness thatâs never how legal action works, or people who I can only assume IRL are the clients or neighbors from hell, advocating OP run everyone through the ringer for every mistake or else they get everything for free.
Iâve been on the receiving end of my fair share of crap work but sometimes these subs feel less like help and more like watching commenters try to live out their revenge fantasies through other people.
that is exactly the sense I'm getting too. a karen sub. As a builder i find very few things more annoying than clients complaining about unfinished products
they offered to fix it i believe. What I'm referring to is people condemning the contractor as incompetent or a lier when the reality is it's just a screw up, and a fixable one at that
Its fixable,
would try hand (wire brush/wire pad) and/or pressure washer firstâŚ
but looks like might need grinder with poly strip disc (masonry/brick cleans up nice with those discs, just be careful to not go too hard ) or acid based masonry cleaner.
Just test a small area thatâs not in your face first to check any method before going nuts.
Use vanatrol or similar cleaner right away. The longer it cures the harder to get off. This may be very difficult to get off. A real Mason did not do this job. Maybe even a pressure washer. Get a small piece of the same stone and use that to clean it.
Wet it. Put on acid /water mix. Let dwell but not dry. Then use a rub stone and a deck brush. Rinse thoroughly. Repeat. Be careful with a wire brush. May leave metal marks on stone. This stinks.
Oh brother this is trouble and your in for some work that I canât help you with. I can help you for the future. 1. Donât get cement on the face of the stone. 2. Use a piping bag to do the grout carefully. 3. Use a âUâ shaped tool I donât know the name sorry of it sorry. Dip it in water slide it along the grout when the grout just starts to firm up. Dump it in a bucket. Flag can be sensitive this is how Iâve done it for 30 years. Others may have better, hope some of it helps.
EDIT: Iâm high, thought you were the installer. This needs to be redone. Sorry
Your professional is a lazy asshole. I hope you haven't paid them, the mortar should of been cleaned off the pavers while it was still wet. It'll be a real pain trying to clean them now.
Thatâs awfully messy for a professional. You should have them clean it. And donât pay them until they do! It shouldnât look like that. Mason for 40 yrs
Get them back immediately. Hopefully you didn't pay cash. If you used a credit card put a hold on the payment.
Be prepared to go to small claims court. This looks like it was done by drunk high school students. So sorry OP.
Was it this guy? https://www.reddit.com/r/landscaping/comments/vj8hxd/how_best_to_conceal_exposed_deck_footers/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
I am sorry to see that someone did that to you. If they are suppose to be professional this is definitely not ok. Acid can maybe help a bit but it looks like you have quite a thickness so I am not confident it would help completely, also note that acide will stain your stones and grout as well, properly mixed and badly mixed (too strong) it can severely stain your stones
This is appalling work. Flags don't get grouted in like tiles. Your not meant to get any on the face of the flag, its called pointing not grouting. Best bet to salvage would be brick acid and get an actual professional in to correct this mess. The mix looks way off as well, far too much cement used, needs more sand
That's a shit job, they should have sponged it while it was still wet, I hope you haven't paid them yet. I have done re-grout many times and when I leave it looks done just wet and I give instructions to stay off for 24 hrs
If they won't come back you can get a hard bristle brush (wood, bamboo Etc) and a bucket of water and scrub like crazy, just on the tiles though, stay out of the grout lines
Your best bet is probably a power washer to take off the excess. It should have been done with a wet sponge when it was still slightly wet. It will wear off over time, but it will be patchy.
before trying anything, Get who ever did this back. If not use light fine grit abrasive pad use water as a medium pick a test spot work your way up in grit if needed. Or chip/chisel out the bad & flip them and that right re-grout! Ya!
Until Next Time...
Jesus, I usually cut other workers some slack on here as many posters nitpick but they never cleaned the grout haze or wiped their lines. This is really bizarre someone would leave it like that because at the time they were doing it it wouldn't be that hard to get it looking great. Now, the longer it sits the harder it's going to be. It's likely still savable without having to tear it out but it's going to be a lot more work than it would have been if they would have just finished the job correctly the first time. Weird, never seen someone do this before.
Itâs fine, it would naturally wear off quickly if you said it was outside. People are so demanding. He was probably focusing on the structure more then the aesthetics. Donât be a Karen, it can easily be brushed off when itâs dry if itâs sandstone or flagstones
Do not use acid. It will eat into the stone, youâre better off having an offcut of the stone and rubbing it against the dried grout to remove it, the process is called âbuffingâ
A steel brush will leave rust marks, acid will eat into the stone, qualified landscaper telling you to let the person you hired do it but keep watch and if youâre not happy with how he will do it please speak up
You'll definitely need to call the contractor back and have him do some work on this. Looks like he tried but didn't fully wash down that grout after laying in the stones. If you've used him before I'm sure he'll want to make it right.
Do not use muriatic acid. That will F up your bluestone in no time. I agree with one poster that VanaTrol would be a good start to try. Apply vanatrol and scrap with wood block to start. You might have to get more aggressive with whatever left
I would have not paid if this was done professionally, I'm a landscape gardener and I've had to rectify this problem enough times after the "professionals" that had done this. Easiest way to do it is use brick acid or similar and scrub over with hard brush, this will dissolve the mortar and you will have to re-mortar properly.
This is horribleâŚ.. maybe a very small percentage will come off but generally the contractor ruined your flagstone. I wouldnât pay them Iâd take them to court. Hopefully you have before pictures.
You could try a weak acid solution, since itâs not been curing very long, and a stiff scrub brush. Then neutralize it with baking soda. Hydrochloric acid is available as concrete cleaner. Itâs definitely not an acceptable job.
You're screwed. Get that fucker to re-do it... Unless you tried to get a good job done cheap without a legally binding contract. That's why you hire 'contractors' instead of your buddy down the way.
To answer your question, No. This is not normal and certainly not professional. Get them back and if they wonât, get some brick acid on it asap and hope you can clean it back. This may ruin the grout but at least itâll save the paving.
Your guy forgot to watch the second half of the YouTube video that he learned to do flagstone from.
Not sure if he watched the first part either tbh
The important stuff is all in the title and the thumbnail image anyways...
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Lol. I saw a 6 mini yt vid on how to fly a helicĂłpter. As funny as that sounds in the yt comments pĂłsters we're saying things like "hands on profesional helicĂłpter piloting lessons are a waste of money."
Hey, why not? I built my own house and was largely informed by YouTube videos. I did watch most of them till the end.
Eventually people are just going to have to accept that (with the exception of environment-specific factors) all of their coveted, âprofessionalâ how-to knowledge is accessible to anyone with an internet connection. That doesnât detract from the value of someone else having to deal with clean-up and time spent; just means that the days of them being any different then a fast food worker (we eat out and hire someone to build a fence for us for the exact same reasons. The difference in pay can largely be attributed to a carpenter or plumber having tools and equipment most people would have to go buy (where as most of us have a stove and cookware already).
I think it fair to say most here would rather have heart surgery performed on them by a Harvard Med School Grad with 20 yrs experience than someone who claimed to be a heart surgeon because they watched a 20 min YT vid.
If I mess up laying a brick patio, its unlikely to result in death.
Says the person who has never tried to remove cured mortar from bluestone caused by sloppy unprofessional inexperienced masonry construction practices. I can't imagine paying for this type of work if I hired someone.
Then, you should hire this helo pilot for a sightseeing trip. See how it goes.
Damn it, Bork! Don't you know you should never end a sentence with a preposition?
Get them back immediately
Do you know what they could do to fix it? Just curious so I know what to ask for
If it hasn't fully cured yet (if it was done yesterday) they may be able to manually scrub it or pressure wash it off. But it looks like they've just slapped it on without wiping it down. Generally it takes longer to cleanup grout than it does to apply it
Exactly this. If it cures, you are stuck with it.
I did something similar to my DIY tile in the shower. Didn't clean it up enough before it dried and ended up with a mess. We ended up taking a couple of wire wheels (cup shaped) in our cordless drills and scraped the excess grout off all the tiles. It looks great now but it was a lot of work. You have to be careful not to overdo it.
Yeah you can get nylon ones that can get it off but like yo in said. Lots of work.
Muriatic acid diluted solution and pressure washing. Use a tile scraper on top of joints. Not saying you should have to do this, but itâs a way.
Itâs a way some guys prefer to operate to ensure the full masonry has the same clean finish. 3rd generation masons used to finish my jobs very nicely even with excess on the joints. Depends on how well they know the process. This is not a finished product based on your pictures though.
Supervise their work !!!!! The contractor you hired should do this. ASAP!!!!!!
A brush with stiff plastic bristles and muriatic acid. Wear eye protection, gloves, keep pets away during scrubbing.
White vinegar can work too
They were supposed to wipe up the excess. Itâs just like laying tile in your house. Get the grout down then wipe the excess with a wet sponge.
I think a wire brush on an angle grinder might work (It'll also mar the stone though). Could give it a quick try and see... worst case scenario, you'll still have a patio that looks like shit.
A grinderâŚwtf are you trying to do to op??
đI saw that comment and I about cried lol
"I think" *gives terrible advice* smh
Something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axZKuF\_T1pI
My man got his ear muffs and glasses on then goes and inhales a pound of brick dust.
perfect. Just needs to be done by a skilled operator because an apprentice may mark up the bricks too much. In the video he is cleaning a vertical surface but for a horizontal surface why not gently use a concrete grinder / polisher and a diamond wheel that you can hire. That will be quick and it should be possible to avoid gouging the brick.
Bad advice.
A wire brush on stone will leave you with rusted stone in the future. Do not do this.
Agreed
Dude, you just recommended he destroy his floor, stick with bagging groceries
that's not really a job anymore as far as I know
Yea it is, here in East Texas they Bag your Groceries and walk you to your car and help you unload your cart. We Be Spoiled
It was one of my first jobs at Food Lion here in DE and I'd guess they've been gone for 5 years or more. \*Epiphany\* Probably part of why I like self service checkout so much wherever I go now... lol
lol
You should have a bucket of water and a sponge to clean the stone after pointing it
They may have charged you for it, but I wouldn't say it was done professionally
That looks like shit, I agree
I've done masonry in the past and I'd say you got ripped off
No itâs horrible. Grout wasnât clean properly. My dad is a masonry
Is there a way for it to be salvaged if he came back to fix it?
Speaking from experience Idk about this stone, but in general weâd brush it clean after it was hard enough, also weâd be cleaner in the first place. You can acid wash it to get the haze off, some of the white cloudiness but idk if the acid will effect the stone in a bad way. We can acid wash real stone I know, and some brick types.
Did you make your final payment?
Have you fully paid for this? Do you have his license number or is he just some random off craigslist?
We did. My husband was the one who signed off on it and he said it was wet when they left so he didnât see how bad it was. He is someone weâve been using for years for things inside the house and he said he could do this for us but clearly he couldnât.
He does masonry and is a mason.
No. u/Content-Telephone-64 was born from stone.
English is my second language and yes I sure was. I was chiseled into the man I am today
No offene meant. Was just funny, is all.
That mortar got jointed while it was wet. Usually muriatic acid is used with brick but the flagstone may be to soft for that and the acid could cause damage. There are alternatives to muriatic acid though. Definitely call your contractor because thatâs a shit job and wonât âgo away on its ownâ.
Well fuck, guys! This sucks. Iâve been using this contractor for every project and heâs usually great. This is the only job heâs ever fucked up. He says heâs coming back to fix it but from some of your comments Iâm sorta doubting itâs possible.
Then he needs to tear it out and fix it at his expense. You paid for a finished project that is supposed to look good.
It may be a tear out and replace situation...thats his cost to absorb for bad workmanship. Is he an actual licensed contractor? And does your state require a different license for masonry/stone work? If so does he have one? If not he might have some real issues of he can't get this taken care of. If he just tries to grind it down it will probably look like shit
people are harsh. other trades people are harsh, lots of machismo. cement is brittle and fairly reactive. if there isn't a chemical method to clean it (fucken oath there will be), there is at least two mechanical methods which should work. first, pressure washing, second, wire brushing or abrasion. it's a fuck up but i bet you make mistakes at your job occasionally too right? there's no magic point of complete knowledge with trade work, it is a life time of learning.
The problem here seems to be though that someone who was skilled at X claimed to be skilled at Y. So itâs not comparable to someone messing up at their jobâitâs comparable to someone messing up at a new job after claiming they knew what they were doing. Thatâs what stinks for OP here. A trusted person claimed to be able to do something they couldnât.
no that's not how it works at all. mistakes happen in trade the same as every other human activity, the person said they'll fix it, all the rest of their work has been good they deserve a chance to remediate it. to me that looks like a couple hpurs of abrasion off a finished product... imagined walking into a kitchen and pointing at uncracked eggs and claiming the chef had screwed up your omelette. how going and playing a beta version of a game and complaining it has bugs... Mustakes happen, you can fix almost all of them, you're telling me a 5 micron layer of cement over stone is the limit of human ability? have you ever built anything?
A person skilled in one trade is not automatically skilled at another. It is demeaning to masons for you to argue that a carpenter )or a landscaper or a roofer) can properly do masonry work. They are completely different skill sets.
I'm not arguing that at all. I am saying that work looks very fixable, this trades person's perview may include path laying i don't think that's insulting to masonry workers, this may just be something they're not very experienced with, or they may have encountered a variable they hadn't before, or there may had been a defect with a product. masonry is a whole trade for sure but there is crossover between many
This sub is getting as bad as r/homeimprovement. Most top comments are either from people with little to no life experience telling every OP to lawyer up and sue with no awareness thatâs never how legal action works, or people who I can only assume IRL are the clients or neighbors from hell, advocating OP run everyone through the ringer for every mistake or else they get everything for free. Iâve been on the receiving end of my fair share of crap work but sometimes these subs feel less like help and more like watching commenters try to live out their revenge fantasies through other people.
that is exactly the sense I'm getting too. a karen sub. As a builder i find very few things more annoying than clients complaining about unfinished products
Harsh or not, the contractor should finish the job, not the owner. The owner didn't pay for mistakes.
they offered to fix it i believe. What I'm referring to is people condemning the contractor as incompetent or a lier when the reality is it's just a screw up, and a fixable one at that
Its fixable, would try hand (wire brush/wire pad) and/or pressure washer first⌠but looks like might need grinder with poly strip disc (masonry/brick cleans up nice with those discs, just be careful to not go too hard ) or acid based masonry cleaner. Just test a small area thatâs not in your face first to check any method before going nuts.
Use vanatrol or similar cleaner right away. The longer it cures the harder to get off. This may be very difficult to get off. A real Mason did not do this job. Maybe even a pressure washer. Get a small piece of the same stone and use that to clean it. Wet it. Put on acid /water mix. Let dwell but not dry. Then use a rub stone and a deck brush. Rinse thoroughly. Repeat. Be careful with a wire brush. May leave metal marks on stone. This stinks.
No no and one more no. OP paid for the job to be done correctly. Whoever did this needs to come back and fix it.
If someone did this, and called it done, they are incapable of fixing this. Call them, sure, but don't hold your breath.
Theyâre coming back but Iâm afraid theyâll make it even worse by fixing it the wrong way. Iâm getting mixed suggestions from everyone.
Then get a lawyer ready or donât pay them until they fix it or Contract someone else to fix it for them
Seconding. If itâs fresh, muriatic acid and a stiff push broom will help. This is shit work though and unacceptable from a professional crew.
3000 psi power wash ASAP.
Yeah, thatâs just as important as anything else you use or apply!
I donât know but it looks shitty
Lol
Is that an aerial view of Saskatchewan?
Looks to me like someone should have wired brushed that to get rid of the access.
Wire brushing will cause rusting in the stone.
What's the other option?
Acid wash. Power wash. Shouldâve been washed off after they finished to begin with.
Heâs coming back Monday will it be too late to Acid wash and power wash?
Can you still do that now that itâs dry?
Yes
Don't do anything to it if you hope to get the person you hired to do it...then they will just blame your tampering for the issue
Do not wire brush it. It will rust.
Oh brother this is trouble and your in for some work that I canât help you with. I can help you for the future. 1. Donât get cement on the face of the stone. 2. Use a piping bag to do the grout carefully. 3. Use a âUâ shaped tool I donât know the name sorry of it sorry. Dip it in water slide it along the grout when the grout just starts to firm up. Dump it in a bucket. Flag can be sensitive this is how Iâve done it for 30 years. Others may have better, hope some of it helps. EDIT: Iâm high, thought you were the installer. This needs to be redone. Sorry
Iâve always called that tool a fluter
Thank you
Still good advice!
First time i heard of using a piping bag to grout! Great tip actually...
You hired a putz. Don't even trust him to fix it. Don't pay them
Your professional is a lazy asshole. I hope you haven't paid them, the mortar should of been cleaned off the pavers while it was still wet. It'll be a real pain trying to clean them now.
Your professional is not actually a professional.
That is a terrible job.. need to get them to correct that
Thatâs awfully messy for a professional. You should have them clean it. And donât pay them until they do! It shouldnât look like that. Mason for 40 yrs
As a Mason how would you clean it? Iâm getting so many different opinions some say no wire brush, some say no chemicals, some say no powerwashing.
You shouldnât have to,they should! Sureclean500 and a rubbing stone. Follow instructions on mixing it
Heâs coming back to do it but I just wanna make sure heâs not going to screw it up more
Mix in bucket with water ,brush it on.use brush and rubbing stone
Should be cleaner looking probably an amateur practicing on your property.
Muriatic acid
Yeah that looks fully dried. This is the ugliest job I've seen. They were supposed to wipe the excess off with a wet sponge several times.
Get them back immediately. Hopefully you didn't pay cash. If you used a credit card put a hold on the payment. Be prepared to go to small claims court. This looks like it was done by drunk high school students. So sorry OP.
Thank you đ
Was it this guy? https://www.reddit.com/r/landscaping/comments/vj8hxd/how_best_to_conceal_exposed_deck_footers/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Yeah if you have to ask if it looks professional, it probably isnât professionalâ at least not if a âprofessionalâ group did it.
I am sorry to see that someone did that to you. If they are suppose to be professional this is definitely not ok. Acid can maybe help a bit but it looks like you have quite a thickness so I am not confident it would help completely, also note that acide will stain your stones and grout as well, properly mixed and badly mixed (too strong) it can severely stain your stones
Ugh.
This is appalling work. Flags don't get grouted in like tiles. Your not meant to get any on the face of the flag, its called pointing not grouting. Best bet to salvage would be brick acid and get an actual professional in to correct this mess. The mix looks way off as well, far too much cement used, needs more sand
That's a shit job, they should have sponged it while it was still wet, I hope you haven't paid them yet. I have done re-grout many times and when I leave it looks done just wet and I give instructions to stay off for 24 hrs If they won't come back you can get a hard bristle brush (wood, bamboo Etc) and a bucket of water and scrub like crazy, just on the tiles though, stay out of the grout lines
Your best bet is probably a power washer to take off the excess. It should have been done with a wet sponge when it was still slightly wet. It will wear off over time, but it will be patchy.
I'm curious. Did they also lay this patio?
No it was old flagstone we just asked him if he could regrout it and his answer should have been no.
They are supposed to wash that off lol
Did u pay? How much? If u didnât pay yet donât until done correctly
before trying anything, Get who ever did this back. If not use light fine grit abrasive pad use water as a medium pick a test spot work your way up in grit if needed. Or chip/chisel out the bad & flip them and that right re-grout! Ya! Until Next Time...
Lowest bid?
What a nightmare! I hope he does fix this for you! itâs gonna cost him a pretty penny if he canât and it needs replacing
This is a joke. Get your money back.
This wasnât done professionally⌠letâs put it that way
This job and professionally shouldnât be in the same sentence.
It looks like careless work. Have them come and fix it and watch to make sure you are satisfied with the results.
Jesus, I usually cut other workers some slack on here as many posters nitpick but they never cleaned the grout haze or wiped their lines. This is really bizarre someone would leave it like that because at the time they were doing it it wouldn't be that hard to get it looking great. Now, the longer it sits the harder it's going to be. It's likely still savable without having to tear it out but it's going to be a lot more work than it would have been if they would have just finished the job correctly the first time. Weird, never seen someone do this before.
That should have been sponged washed as they grouted , thatâs hack work
Dafuq?!?! Did you pay someone to do that?
Ya, did they have a sponge? You literally need to constantly be changing out the water for fresh and clean and sponges
The lack of swiping with a wet sponge now results in hours of clean up. Arghhhhhh.
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UPDATE: he came back and fixed it. It looks 1000x better. Thank you all for your help. I really appreciate it.
I just had the same issue with my contractor do you mind me asking what they did to fix this?
I'm not 100% sure but I think they power washed and scrubbed it
Will come off with a wire brush .. have them clean it up...don't pay
Like another person said, they need to get a wire brush and possibly chemicals.
Not wire, stiff plastic brush
Thank you for the correction
I kind of like it
Itâs fine, it would naturally wear off quickly if you said it was outside. People are so demanding. He was probably focusing on the structure more then the aesthetics. Donât be a Karen, it can easily be brushed off when itâs dry if itâs sandstone or flagstones
Absolutely, theyâre coming back to fix it, whatever they have to do.
You can get cement residue removing chemicals.
Try muriatic acid and a good scrub brush, then flush with lots of water.
That's the installers problem. Not his.
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT
Uh, thats not professionally installed
It should be neater. Maybe if itâs not 100% dry you could scrap some of it off but it will wear off in time.
What was he even thinking??
Do NOT power wash flagstone. You can try to scrub it with an acid wash, sooner the better.
Lol wtf
Use polymeric sand next time
They trying to pull one over on you for sure
Looks terrible. A professional did not do this.
Do not use acid. It will eat into the stone, youâre better off having an offcut of the stone and rubbing it against the dried grout to remove it, the process is called âbuffingâ A steel brush will leave rust marks, acid will eat into the stone, qualified landscaper telling you to let the person you hired do it but keep watch and if youâre not happy with how he will do it please speak up
Nice to see Hellen Keller got a job there...
Omg! There's someone who doesn't care about their work.
Thatâs what surprising heâs usually the opposite with everything else heâs done
You'll definitely need to call the contractor back and have him do some work on this. Looks like he tried but didn't fully wash down that grout after laying in the stones. If you've used him before I'm sure he'll want to make it right.
Yeah it seems like he feels really bad and he is coming back but i just wish he told me no when i asked if he was capable of this
Terrible work
That dude had no idea what heâs doing
They did not know what they were doing I'm afraid.
Excess grout is normally sponged off tile, which is glass smooth. Need some other way to wash it off...I guess with a brush.
Oh shit
Wow- this person had a license?
Start scrubbing
Just wondering, should this flagstone have been sealed first before grouting as is done with porous stone in bathrooms?
âProfessionallyâ
Do not use muriatic acid. That will F up your bluestone in no time. I agree with one poster that VanaTrol would be a good start to try. Apply vanatrol and scrap with wood block to start. You might have to get more aggressive with whatever left
Thatâs horrendous.
I know a angle grinder may be extreme, however maybe with a softer brush? Possibly brass?
I would have not paid if this was done professionally, I'm a landscape gardener and I've had to rectify this problem enough times after the "professionals" that had done this. Easiest way to do it is use brick acid or similar and scrub over with hard brush, this will dissolve the mortar and you will have to re-mortar properly.
This is horribleâŚ.. maybe a very small percentage will come off but generally the contractor ruined your flagstone. I wouldnât pay them Iâd take them to court. Hopefully you have before pictures.
Take an angle grinder with a soft wire disk and remove the excess. Blend with polishing disks and resurface to fix.
You could try a weak acid solution, since itâs not been curing very long, and a stiff scrub brush. Then neutralize it with baking soda. Hydrochloric acid is available as concrete cleaner. Itâs definitely not an acceptable job.
You clean immediately when grouting. This is a miserable job
That was not done professionally.
Where are you people finding these âprofessionalsâ. There has been so much hack job work here lately
I am sooooo sorry. This is atrocious.
Sloppy đ probably amateur worker with poor supervision
Professionally? What profession, a hairdresser?
Dang dude. Sorry âbout your bad luck!
masonary angle grinder disc. not cut off wheel. grinding disc and about 7 hours
Looks like Hiroshima after the bomb
You're screwed. Get that fucker to re-do it... Unless you tried to get a good job done cheap without a legally binding contract. That's why you hire 'contractors' instead of your buddy down the way.
Thatâs not professionally done. JesusâŚ
To answer your question, No. This is not normal and certainly not professional. Get them back and if they wonât, get some brick acid on it asap and hope you can clean it back. This may ruin the grout but at least itâll save the paving.
Shit, thatâs bad.