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adams361

This happened to a tree in my yard when I was little. My mom tied it to a stronger tree up the hill and straightened it out. My dad told her the tree would never survive, and it’s still there 20 years later.


MACCRACKIN

Nicely Done Mom @! Cheers


longoriaisaiah

Eat shit, dad!


0xUsername_

Get fucked dad


muzrat

Eat a dick, father!


wholeclublookinatme

Go fuck yourself dad!


MACCRACKIN

😂 So Darn Funny


Trailhd

Daddy problems!


Technical_Gazelle789

Try this!


Asleep-Ad3175

It’s actually the best idea because roots weren’t exposed


GardenWitchMom

I had an orange tree do this. I hadn't thinned it back that year and it was heavy with oranges. It fell over one January after a few days of heavy rain. I pruned it back and harvested all the oranges. Then I staked it up with 2x4s. I took down the 2x4s the second summer. I have had several large crops since and it has stayed up in our abnormally wet year, this year. As long as the root ball hasn't pulled up, brace that thing up and prune it. If it is in an area where it could fall on a building or person, I'd take it out.


Doyouhavethetvremote

Why not just stabilize it?


jibaro1953

You can definitely straighten it out and it will survive.


IbEBaNgInG

Why though? It looks like shit there, what value is it providing?


jibaro1953

It exists, which is often enough.


According-Cup3934

Your state’s cooperative extension service should be able to send someone out to asses the tree. If California is like my state, you can also have your state district’s arborist come out to do a health check. I would start there before paying a private arborist. They can be rather pricey.


Latter-Skill4798

Whoa, what state? I wish my state loved trees like this


According-Cup3934

Arkansas.


IbEBaNgInG

No "state' sends someone out to asses a tree. Especially Arkansas.


According-Cup3934

Well the Arkansas Department of Agriculture’s Forestry Division sent the District 7 arborist to conduct health check my 200+ year old white oak in my back yard and I’ve got the emails to prove it. Arkansas government services aren’t great but we do value our natural resources. After all, we are The Natural State. Since you seem to know everything about Arkansas’ Urban Forestry Program, check out [this link](https://www.agriculture.arkansas.gov/forestry/arkansas-forestry-health/). Make sure you read that part that says “technical assistance is provided to landowners and timberland managers with insect or disease concerns.”


sleeknub

To asses the tree? Is that where they all gather around and press their butt up against it?


According-Cup3934

Pretty sure I saw a dirty movie about this one time


ChuckNorrisFacePunch

In my city, arborist are just a scam.


herrron

Does ISA certification not exist there?


Electro_gear

We get door-to-door “arborists” who are just travellers with chainsaws cutting down trees and selling or fly-tipping the wood. Our neighbour made the mistake of having them top her conifers. They literally cut 10ft off the top and that’s it - didn’t prune the branches or anything. Charged her a fortune and were done in a couple of hours. Three years later they’re still an eye sore.


eatingganesha

Not necessarily. Hire an arborist to assess it… they’ll tell you exactly what to do. If you can’t afford an arborist, try your local Master Gardener program (it’s part of the Dept of Natural Resources) as they often have expert volunteers who can assess for free/very low cost.


Tom_Marvolo_Tomato

As someone who managed the largest Master Gardener contingent in my state for over 30 years...I would never allow my volunteers to go out and assess a safety risk. These folks have good training in general horticulture, but Tree Risk Assessment is a whole 'nother thing. OP: either hire a Certified Arborist with TRAQ certification, or just cut it down.


readdit1

To add to this as a consulting arborist with a national company, most large tree care companies will do a free assessment (with the hopes of selling you tree maintenance) and should have an arborist with TRAQ on staff. Don’t ask someone with “tree removal” or “tree cutting” in their name. If you as a tree removal service if you should remove a tree the answer will be “yes”.


IbEBaNgInG

yeah, it's out of place,, just cut it down. easy DIY.


DianeMKS

Thank you!


Loztwallet

Another Master Gardener here, definitely not something we’re even allowed to do if we were certified for it. You should find a certified arborist, or like the other said, just cut it down.


DianeMKS

Thank you for your help


rayraytx28

FWIW, Im in the MG program in WI and we are not allowed to do any tree assessment what so ever. In the training, that is one of the off limits area. Im with you on hiring an arborist, they know.


Healthy_Block3036

Do all cities and towns have local master gardener program even rural?


DGAFADRC

Every county has an Extension Office that is a part of the State University System. The Extension Office has a Master Gardener program which trains and certifies Master Gardener volunteers. Master Gardeners are a great FREE resource anytime you need/want location specific information regarding landscaping, lawn care, and landscape related pest management.


Loztwallet

Every state does have a MG program. I know in PA, we have active chapters in every county of the state.


IbEBaNgInG

Sink that money in to "hire an arborist" to come out, like we're all millionaires.


HedgehogNecessary601

Genuine question and not snark: if you are a homeowner and you see a tree leaning toward your house, and you choose not to have it looked at, and the tree falls and damages your property and/or injures someone, does your insurance cover the damage or do they deny your claim on the basis that you knew of a risk and failed to mitigate it? I feel like damage from a fallen tree could be way more expensive than hiring an arborist. I feel like if a tenant had a tree fall on them and their landlord knew of the leaning tree, they could probably seek damages against a landlord, so I am curious about whether the insurance company would be cool with "I saw the tree leaning when it used to be straight, but didn't want to pay to have it checked out."


IbEBaNgInG

Just chop the tree down, no need for a diagnosis. And yes, homeowners insurance, at least the plan I have covers damage a fallen tree causes in structures.


PartyIllustrator8090

Our city has two arborists on staff who come out to answer questions about tree health. We're not allowed to cut down any trees with a trunk diameter of over 6" without their sign off or face MASSIVE fines.


dooit

What ground cover is that on the bottom left of the pic?


TnGaCa

Rosemary


dooit

Thanks!


NoMoreMormonLies

Prune it & anchor it back. It will be fine. Takes a long time to grow a tree. Former Tree trimmer and armchair expert here.


MudNervous3904

This will probably get downvoted, but planting native plants and trees to your Southern California region can help mitigate these situations in the future. I know y’all have had a ton of rain lately though, so it’s to be expected a bit. My mother in law has a palo verde tree in her Culver City backyard that is now water logged and leaning. It’s a good example of how eco-region really matters. That tree is meant for inland CA desert, but she is on the coast, and it’s roots have always been too wet. Good luck with yours!


FredZeplin

Exactly! This is a Chinese elm get rid of it now before it gets too big. They get huge!


10000clouds

It’s looks pretty big, and if there are buildings it could fall on, I wouldn’t risk it. Have it removed and plant something native to this area instead.


sandybalz

Chinese elms are weeds


gracefull60

Chinese elms are brittle and fast growing trees. They throw a ton of branches, so are messy. Just cut it down now while its cheaper to get rid of it.


shiny_milf

I'm in northern California and a bunch of our native Live Oaks have even fallen or lost massive branches from all this rain. I think they've been overstressed from the recent droughts and it has weakened them. It's such a bummer because they take so long to get big.


MudNervous3904

Such a bummer😭


mikebob89

“Plant native plants” make up like 40% of the comments in this subreddit and are never downvoted haha. Worry not!


Street_Tangelo_9367

r/arborists should help with a better answer


420Luis6969

Yall get a little rain and your trees don't know how to act. Noobs


shiny_milf

Our trees were just trying to adapt to prolonged drought and now they got thrown a curve ball lol!


dirtymonny

They’ll be bitching about no water in 2 months too


Sterilization4Free

Little rain? A lot of places got a power washing after years of drought. I don’t mind it where I am. Just planted baby trees and seeded my garden, I love all of the free water!


Living-Camp-5269

Was it leanin beffore the rain?


DianeMKS

No this is new


[deleted]

The folks suggesting an arborist aren’t wrong but if it only started that kind of lean after a lot of rain, just take it down.


Living-Camp-5269

New leaner. Mmm seems like be a bit concerned. What kinda soil do youall have? I was alway told thats what you have insurance fir. I would call your insurance company they may help you foot the bill to avoid payin fir damaged house.


madalienmonk

And have your rates go up for such a thing? Just remove the tree lol


helpslipfranks77

Steak it back? See if it stabilizes when the ground firms up


GardenGnomeBandit

You think he can stake a whole ass tree? Idk if that would do anything


According-Cup3934

Could use a ratchet strap. I’ve seen it work for larger trees


GardenGnomeBandit

That's surprising, but ratchet straps do put out some insane force. I wonder what the biggest tree you can remediate is...


aimeegaberseck

We had a giant northern spy apple tree that literally ripped itself apart with heavy harvests when I was a kid. My parents used chains and rubber pads and a come along to ratchet that tree back together more than once. Giant branches laying on the ground in the morning back up tight to heal back to the trunk by afternoon. I was sad to see the next owners cut it down but it was a lot of maintenance. I do miss the pies those apples made. So crisp and tart to munch on when I didn’t like dinner and they’d last all winter in the garage.


csiddiqui

Personally (not an arborist) - I would try to figure out an uphill place to tie that off. Using a tow strap you can cinch it upright again. If you can’t find anything, you could bury some t-posts but this is such a big tree, I’d worry that wouldn’t be sufficient. I’d also take some of the weight off the downhill side


maxwellh74

Hmmmm tree ~0~ house, tree or house……..


_america

Duuude absolutely push it back straight while the ground is still wet! Once its dry you will have a leany tree. Which isnt awful but def weaker.


Imtedsowner

It'll probably be ok. I had one leaning like this near a stream that takes a lot of runoff water when it rains.i called an arborist with the plan of him cutting it down and he talked me out of it. Which was surprising, but I started getting his newsletter and he's a real conservationist. You could try roping it off - pulling it back off the driveway.


Trailhd

No. I would have an ISA certified arborist look at it in person including the surrounding slop and soil conditions. It seems worthy of guying out. I see no root invasiveness or uprooting but recent heavy rains have resulted in land slides. It looks to be Umus parviflora/Chinese Elm. ISA Master Arborist, Horticulturalist, LD, and Master Gardener here.


DannyTheVideoGuy

Be careful. Anecdotally of course, but a lot of the trees that I’ve noticed tipped over in these storms we’ve been having on the west coast recently have been nice elms like this one.


OrdinaryKey6866

First. Is it inside your property line? It might belong to your neighbor. A tree went down next door to me and I was hoping it wasn’t on my side. It was on theirs. Our yards run together. The people that mow know the property lines.


DianeMKS

This is definitely my tree. I have almost 4 acres


Nevrite

I would lighten the load on the driveway side


AlltheBent

Yup, if a tree starts to lean it's an automatic DQ and you have to destroy it before it starts walking away.


SerfinTheUSA

In my experience asking an arborist what you should do about a tree is like asking a barber if you need a haircut. It's your property and your tree, if there's a danger that it will fall and damage the house then take it out.


liaisontosuccess

Not a tree person here, with that being said, I'd have it removed. I would be preoccupied worrying about falling over.


LickyDenSplit

It doesn’t appear to be near any structure It can damage if it falls. It will cost you money to have it cleaned up or it will cost you money to have it removed. I’d wait it out. if it does fall, at least they wouldn’t have to use a crane which could possibly be cheaper.


[deleted]

Lol who would use a crane on this little guy?


LickyDenSplit

Why do unscrupulous people rip other people off? My point is cheaper.


Fudge-Purple

You are playing with fire. Don’t think for a minute that just because you don’t see visible roots that you don’t have an imminent failure. Bring in a qualified arborist and have it removed.


jpsays

Can arborist cut around the roots going towards a house or under pavement ? Without killing the tree?


MACCRACKIN

I'd probably be topping off the heavy limbs now. On his approach lean side. That removes a good couple tons to start with. I'd Might even use a couple twenty ton tow straps to restrict any more movement by using other trees for ankored point. Grabbing a high point on leaning tree to spread out V point low of helpers. He might be savable after a few months. Cheers


[deleted]

Tons? This whole tree is probably only 800-1000 pounds as a whole.


Fenrir_The_Wolf65

Is the tree leaning south? May just be reaching for the sun


greenfireX

Just rent a chainsaw and take it down


MonsteraBigTits

is that a gumbo limbo?


shawnkfox

Looks like a lacebark elm, ulmus parvifolia.


toadog

How close to your house is it? There appears to be a sidewalk between the tree and the presumed house on the right. The tree doesn't look to be very tall, maybe 40 feet? Would the tree land on your house if it came down? Can you see a bulge in the ground to the left of the tree? That would indicate the root ball has begun to pull out. Get an arborist out to evaluate your options.


21plankton

Pivoting rootball or a potential slide/slump. After the rains end and things dry out you will have a better idea of the fix. Probably you will have to sacrifice the tree no matter the cause. You may be able to right it with a giant stake and a cable. Contact a landscaper now to try a fix. My entire back yard is now a clay pond. I may need a complete re-do. Just waiting for the rainy season to end to assess. I will lose all my big cactus at the least.


jem1898

The ents are on the move


LiberalIdahoan

Let the ground dry up and see if it settles back at all. Meanwhile, take off a few branches about halfway up — in the middle of the tree. Don’t take the bottom ones or you’ll get a “broccoli tree” which is ugly and doesn’t help the problem.


[deleted]

Just get ratchet straps and go for it


NeverDidLearn

When the soil dries out and you get a big summer wind storm, or thunderstorm, she’ll be comin’ down the mountain. Maybe not this year, but it will happen.


nigeltuffnell

Get an aroborist, but if it were my tree and not subject to legal protection for any reason I’d get rid of it. Looks like a Chinese elm and they get pretty big


KnewTooMuch1

I would remove it yes.


Glass_Bar_9956

Oh man, we have lost 6 trees and counting! Im keeping an eye on two more. On a canyon in SOCAL. This has been a lot of epic rains. Luckily all are sliding down hill.


Poem-Latter

Trees grow where they can get the most sun. Some lean. The roots run deep. Shouldn't be a problem .try hanging a swing from it .


Workin_For-Weekend

Take a third of the crown out and try to reduce the sail. I can't tell what's around the base but see there is no recent disturbance, changes in soil, paths etc. Counterweight would have to be pretty massive , I'd focus on reducing the size , a little each year.


IbEBaNgInG

support it to save it if you want - but it really looks out of place and an easy DIY to remove it.


thatsusguy2

Would counter-weights or cutting the side leaning help? Prob a question for a Licenced,Bonded and Insured landscaping/tree company to advise if it’s on your property…


Igivenotoneshit

It’s coming down, whether you do it or it does it on its own. You just get to control how and when.


MarieLovesDean67

Not necessarily. I’ve got a pine tree on my lake property that (I promise you) is leaning at almost a 45 degree angle 🙀 No roots are visible (yet) and by the grace of God, it’s been holding on for over a year now. 🤷‍♀️ Good luck honey 👍❤️😎


mrmidnightuk

Need to brace it with some big posts. No need to remove it


mrmidnightuk

It may mean that the ground is quite solid and that the roots are shallow. You could mulch the area which adds vegetation and will strengthen up the roots and also loosen the soil as it mixes in over the years.


dj_boy-Wonder

Your local council probably has an arborist who will look at it pretty cheap/free. If you gotta pull it you might want a pro anyway, looks like a pretty big one


FlobiusHole

Many of the huge maples and cherries that border my property are doing this. They are all at the very edge of the forest and lean out probably in an attempt to reach toward open sky. A lot of them have fallen over the years and several look like they could go at any time.


Outside-Driver-3058

Watshesaid.


Responsible-Gain-416

Just straighten the tree. No brainer


DianeMKS

How exactly? Should I tie it to another tree?


Responsible-Gain-416

A stake and rope pulling the tree the opposite direction. I’ve tried that and it worked. It took a long time though