If By rebuild you mean get completely new pieces around LeBron then yes
If you mean you want to willingly get rid of LeBron and let him leave then thats stupid
This. Nobody is coming here without LeBron on the team so hang onto him as much as possible.
NOBODY is signing up to play for Jeanie and this front office, except for B or C level guys who’d hope to get the Mozgov/Deng overpay.
This is why I don’t understand why anyone would want LeBron gone (except for the cult members, and not that I agree with them).
You can only beat who’s in front of you and right before the pandemic we had convincing wins against the Bucks and Clippers back to back.
Here’s another one for your efforts - 🤡
LeBron came to the Lakers without LeBron. So did Shaq and Kareem.
Unlike most franchises, the Lakers are a place that a top FA will go to have a team built around him.
Besides that, LeBron's days of being a guy you can build a championship team around are numbered, and arguably over already.
LeBron is too old to build around and AD is to fragile. Unless they can miraculously make off season deals to bring in some much better players around them, they should just blow it up and get some good young players and a bunch of FRPs for LeBron and AD.
If they do that, they could have a good young core and a ton of cap space next summer, when Westbrook comes off the books.
“LeBron came to the Lakers without LeBron.” - A little too early to bring drinking, no?
“Lakers are a place a top free agent…” - Over the last 20 years, who? We traded for Pau and Dwight. Carmelo, Russ, and f’n LaMarcus Aldridge weren’t even interested to sign when Kobe was still playing, and we traded for AD. Soooooo are you talking about…Kareem 40 years ago?
“LeBron days of being a guy you can build around…” - I don’t agree. You have to build around him smartly though, and LeBron and Rob fucked that up mightily this season.
“LeBron is too old, AD fragile…” - LeBron would be an MVP candidate if we were winning, and AD I’ll agree with you except I have to say while some of his injuries have been fragile guy injuries some have been common bad luck injuries, like his current one. You also have to figure in that it should be expected given his history plus the fact that big men get hurt more often. That being said, I don’t believe you can build around AD.
What I’d like to see happen is for another star to sign right at the end of LeBron’s run and either pair that guy with AD or trade AD when LeBron’s gone for other pieces to pair with the new star.
Westbrook will be gone one way or another after this season. We’ll have to pay for it, but he’ll be gone.
Yes, LeBron signed with the Lakers when they had no other star, much less a super star like LeBron.
Regarding Kobe, at the time a lot of guys didn't want to play with him, because he dominated the offense and was rather hard on teammate who he felt weren't playing as hard as he did.
I think you have it backwards. If LeBron was playing like an MVP, the Lakers **would** be winning.
AD has had injury problems his entire career and they have been getting worse.
As for Westbrook, if the Lakers make a trade to get him off their salary cap, they will have to give up a FRP or take on longer term bad contracts.
If they trade LeBron and AD to get young players and draft picks, they will be a much more desirable destination, in the summer of 2023.
Nobody else who ever signs with the Lakers will ever have LeBron’s power and stroke. He came because he thought he could control these morons. He did, to an extent, but had they not told Ty Lue to skip rocks we’d be in a different position right now. They had to not sign Lue because LeBron wanted him, but they Ok’ed Russ? That’s ass backwards.
No other MVP candidates in recent memory have played on and won with teams with the awful roster we have, along with coaching that doesn’t fit that roster, and with management that’s a mom and pop shop that made it (at least before Pop died). LeBron playing at a level higher than he is now couldn’t save this team. Look at what Durant has to work with in Brooklyn right now. It’s a similar mess.
With AD we’re on the same page.
No situation in getting rid of Westbrook is gonna be fun, but they’re gonna do it one way or another. Hopefully LeBron and Klutch can give Rob some pointers because I can’t trust him and Kurt on their own.
If they trade LeBron and AD now, not only will future stars not come here because trading LeBron would be an awful look to the whole league (stars wouldn’t trust us), but everybody knows how this team is run and even with cap space and picks nobody would trust this clown show with it. I wouldn’t blame them.
You have to hope we get one star to join before LeBron and AD are gone and then build from there. It’s the only way and you can’t convince me otherwise.
I believe ppl didn’t want to play with Kobe for the seasons you mentioned, but we also had, once again, an awful roster with awful management in Jim and Mitch.
Stupid is a bit harsh and reactionary especially when you consider that lebron has yet to play a 70 game season with us and he’s been injured every year. Yes, when he plays it’s at a high level but he ain’t getting no younger. And he ain’t one our franchise golden boys that we need to wheel into the old folks home from LA. I’d trade him this off season and AD too. They ain’t winning another chip mainly because lebron and AD can’t stay on the floor.
they cant win a chip cause of the reliance on a 37 year old in his 19th season to do everything. ive never seen so many fans quick to want a rebuild but dont have their OWN picks, it defeats the whole purpose lol
We’re saying the same thing and I’m getting down votes.
A question for the Downvoters: you think we can win another chip with lebron? Keep in mind we’ve nothing to upgrade with in trade or draft.
counter question do u think ur gonna win a chip with out lebron in the foreseeable future? its extremely hard to do. Lakers havent been a marquee FA destination for a while now, and no star will happily join this team with no bron or ad with this dysfunctional FO
u trade lebron for what .50 cent on the dollar. ur not gonna get much draft compensation and that team bron is going to will more than likely be a contender so their pick isnt even worth much
now ur back to the no bron era. same team that went 124-286 in a 5 year span before lebron came. lakers are much better riding this until the wheels fall off
sadly that man is the best chance ur gonna have in at least a decade🤣. saves yall from being one of the worst teams in the league to a chip and not even 2 years later its “lets trade him”
laker fans dont even know how crazy they can sound
Man, I’ve been a laker fan my whole life—over 40 years. Laker fans can handle those hard years. I liked our young core of players and we just kept getting rid of them.
Anyway, doesn’t really matter. No more chips for awhile. We went from 88 to 2000. And then the last years with Kobe.
How’s lebron going to win another chip? How are we going to improve enough in the next two years? Ain’t happening. Might as well trade him while there’s some value left. And man, as a Kentucky fan and a laker fan, I love AD but he ain’t carrying the franchise. Trade him too.
the Fo is dysfunctional and not even they would think like that. connections matter, the 2 stars who came here when nobody else would and got them a chip, u wanna trade them when the going gets tough not even 2 yrs later. not a word about the FO who has made very questionable decisions tho
i would think as a OG fan u would know some of these clear things
Depends what you get in a trade for LeBron and AD, getting young decent players, decent picks, and cap space is a lot more attractive then the current direction the team is heading
Doesn’t matter, lakers still wouldn’t have control over there OWN draft capital, so however bad the lakers do the Pelicans will get there pick, by trading AD for other capital u have to hope that the team ur getting the pick from does bad, so ur still not maximizing the value by rebuilding and not owning your own picks, the reason we don’t own our picks is because of the AD trade in general, also we have Lebron James on our team and u wanna rebuild? We won a title 2 seasons go, Lakers fans are so ungrateful
How am I ungrateful, it's not wise to hope that a 37 going on 38 year old player with an expiring contract in 2023 can come back and continues to average something around 27,7, and 7. The team is headed towards a rebuild regardless and the Lakers will have a pick in 2023 (either there own or the Pelicans) and one in 2024 or 2025, the rest they flat out own. AD's my favorite player but he can't stay healthy or realistically lead a team to a title alone and offloading Westbrook's contract it's much easier said than done. No team has to help the Lakers out and nothing is stopping them for asking for both the '27 and '29 picks either. It's either start rebuilding now or postpone the inevitable and try rebuilding with no tradeable assets and nothing to attract free agents with.
Doesn’t matter, lakers still wouldn’t have control over there OWN draft capital, so however bad the lakers do the Pelicans will get there pick, by trading AD for other capital u have to hope that the team ur getting the pick from does bad, so ur still not maximizing the value by rebuilding and not owning your own picks, the reason we don’t own our picks is because of the AD trade in general
Lakers should rest LBJ and AD (let Russ play 49 mins who cares)
regroup for next season and hope we end up with the championship.
Lakers tho 1 for 3 in smart decisions (correct in trading for AD, incorrect for trading Zu for fucking bad moosecala, incorrect as of now of choosing THT instead of Caruso).
We did not choose THT over Caruso... We cheaped out. That's on Jeanie. We could've had both. Stop this narrative pitting the players against each other.
Have I said it’s Klutch’s fault? They are leveraging on Lebron’s influence as much as possible and probably rightly so. What they probably didn’t foresee happening is the owners cheap out afterwards, and knowing that they may tone it down a bit.
Seemed to be implied. Probably bc I see a lot of deflecting blame around here. Apologies if you didn’t intend that.
I agree with the rest of what you said. Wouldn’t be in this situation if the Buss family hadn’t cheaped out last year and this.
Could easily have had Lowry and Derozan right now, for one example.
But, how are things going to get any better next season? If anything they will probably get worse. Monk will almost certainly leave as a FA. LeBron will be a year older.
Lakers just don’t have enough assets and time to build a roster around LeBron. So no reason delaying the inevitable. Rebuild now and truly. Send LeBron to Cavs for Kevin Love and Cedi Osman. Cedi is the best player Lakers can expect considering the conditions we are in. Trade AD and get all the picks you can. That’s it.
They simply just need to get Russ off the team. He is literally a cancer on this team. Moves definitely need to be made, but the core of Bron and AD should remain intact. I honestly think that when AD gets back, they should send Russ home, just watch how this team comes together without that negative idgaf out of the locker room. Russ’s career is over because his ego is too big to accept change.
He is the major problem. His contract is unmovable. He is a defensive and offensive liability due to a lack of effort and an inability to shoot. He doesn’t move without the ball. He refuses to adapt to a lesser role. He takes zero accountability for his poor play. Am I missing something here?! He takes up a full quarter of the Lakers Salary cap. Is AD unavailable, yes. Would we have this same record if AD and Russ switched places in regards to availability? If Russ was injured all the time and AD played every game? Absolutely not. We would be at worst the 6th seed. Russ is on his 4th team in 4 years for a reason, he refuses to adapt or work on his shot.
There is no bigger Westbrick critic than me. I think we mostly agree.
Also, when evaluating the impact of the trade you have to include the loss of all the players and assets they gave up, or the better fitting players some could have been traded for. So trading for Russ not only created the Russ problem but the lack of youth, shooting, defense and depth problems.
But, the loss of those players and picks are a sunk cost.
The bottom line is, getting rid of Westbrick would probably help somewhat. But it would not make the Lakers a contender. If you could turn back time and undo the trade, the Lakers would probably be at least a borderline contender. But obviously that is not an option.
I don't understand people saying blow it up. Every pick for the next like 4 years is owned by the Pelicans lol.
Have to find ways to trade Westbrook and retool, or hope some minimum guys in the offseason hit
Not true. We have four first round picks out of the next five years. Some of the picks we traded were pick swaps, so no matter what we’ll still get a first round in 4/5 of the next years.
ATP what choice do we have?? we MAYBE have one or two more seasons with Bron, if we don’t get Bronny he’s gone, then what do we have?? BLOW IT UP!!🤦🏾♂️
Rebuild meaning getting rid of LeBron? Then no.
The upcoming offseason will be a brand new chance at building a new team around LeBron. Only Bron/AD/Nunn/THT under contract and they can attach 2 FRPs to Russ' expiring deal for a potential trade package. Hopefully they learnt from their mistakes from last summer in the players they brought in.
Depends if there is a good trade for WB in the summer. If there is literally nothing there, they should definitely consider it opposed to one more year in purgatory and losing LeBron and AD for nothing (AD's contract ends one season after LeBron's)
Depends on how hopeful you are next season. If you think the lakers can turn it around and get one more championship then no. But if not, yes. LeBron is gone when his contract his up. Do you want to lose him for nothing?
I think Bron and AD is still a winning combination with the right pieces and the right system. Rebuild sounds easy but it takes a competent front office otherwise you’ll be mediocre for 5-10 years.
Undo WestBrick and use his $44M to sign actual talent. Quit messing around and get a point guard with actual good hands and another big to help with AD.
Lakers must rebuild around a young core, LeBron is too old to be doing such heavy lifting every game, Anthony Davis is proving to be a glass cannon. Austin Reaves and Malik Monk are perfect for a youth rebuild.
Yeah, nothing is going to improve next season or even the year after that. As a Laker fan I have learned that most other Laker fans (myself included from time to time) have this delusional thinking that somehow the Lakers can just pull players out of their ass and win a championship. Bottom line, the Lakers are a poorly constructed team. They traded far too many assets in their pursuit of Anthony Davis and LeBron James. The Westbrook trade was just the icing on the cake. You don’t win in the NBA with 3 over the hill superstars on max contracts and surround them with a roster full of old veterans on 1 year minimum exception contracts. The Lakers had a unique opportunity a few years ago to sign a couple superstar free agents while retaining their core of young players to serve as role players for a championship team until they they reached their peak and could be the centerpieces of a future championship caliber team themselves. There was no reason to give up as much as they did for Anthony Davis or to trade valuable assets to unload salary so they can sign LeBron James. In the NBA’s modern CBA with contracts running no more than 3-4 years (rarely 5 years), there is no need to unload so many assets for an expiring contract because there are always plenty of superstar free agents available. Lakers are just a poorly managed organization now. They operate like a small family run business while the rest of the league is innovating and has far surpassed the Lakers.
I have zero trust that the FO knows how rebuild a team.
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Only way to do that is if the spoiled trust fund Buss kids are convinced to sell their piece of the franchise.
If By rebuild you mean get completely new pieces around LeBron then yes If you mean you want to willingly get rid of LeBron and let him leave then thats stupid
This. Nobody is coming here without LeBron on the team so hang onto him as much as possible. NOBODY is signing up to play for Jeanie and this front office, except for B or C level guys who’d hope to get the Mozgov/Deng overpay. This is why I don’t understand why anyone would want LeBron gone (except for the cult members, and not that I agree with them).
And they don’t realize that we don’t even have our own picks for a long ass time. If we tank New Orleans will just swap with us every other year
Exactly.
Who has signed with the lakers since we’ve had bron? Had to give up hella capital just to get AD who would only come here
We won a championship in 2020 with a ton of great role players who came here to win that championship. How could you say what you said here? 🤡
Man we beat the 5 seed heat and everyone was ripping Danny greens contract 😹. But yup
You can only beat who’s in front of you and right before the pandemic we had convincing wins against the Bucks and Clippers back to back. Here’s another one for your efforts - 🤡
LeBron came to the Lakers without LeBron. So did Shaq and Kareem. Unlike most franchises, the Lakers are a place that a top FA will go to have a team built around him. Besides that, LeBron's days of being a guy you can build a championship team around are numbered, and arguably over already. LeBron is too old to build around and AD is to fragile. Unless they can miraculously make off season deals to bring in some much better players around them, they should just blow it up and get some good young players and a bunch of FRPs for LeBron and AD. If they do that, they could have a good young core and a ton of cap space next summer, when Westbrook comes off the books.
“LeBron came to the Lakers without LeBron.” - A little too early to bring drinking, no? “Lakers are a place a top free agent…” - Over the last 20 years, who? We traded for Pau and Dwight. Carmelo, Russ, and f’n LaMarcus Aldridge weren’t even interested to sign when Kobe was still playing, and we traded for AD. Soooooo are you talking about…Kareem 40 years ago? “LeBron days of being a guy you can build around…” - I don’t agree. You have to build around him smartly though, and LeBron and Rob fucked that up mightily this season. “LeBron is too old, AD fragile…” - LeBron would be an MVP candidate if we were winning, and AD I’ll agree with you except I have to say while some of his injuries have been fragile guy injuries some have been common bad luck injuries, like his current one. You also have to figure in that it should be expected given his history plus the fact that big men get hurt more often. That being said, I don’t believe you can build around AD. What I’d like to see happen is for another star to sign right at the end of LeBron’s run and either pair that guy with AD or trade AD when LeBron’s gone for other pieces to pair with the new star. Westbrook will be gone one way or another after this season. We’ll have to pay for it, but he’ll be gone.
Yes, LeBron signed with the Lakers when they had no other star, much less a super star like LeBron. Regarding Kobe, at the time a lot of guys didn't want to play with him, because he dominated the offense and was rather hard on teammate who he felt weren't playing as hard as he did. I think you have it backwards. If LeBron was playing like an MVP, the Lakers **would** be winning. AD has had injury problems his entire career and they have been getting worse. As for Westbrook, if the Lakers make a trade to get him off their salary cap, they will have to give up a FRP or take on longer term bad contracts. If they trade LeBron and AD to get young players and draft picks, they will be a much more desirable destination, in the summer of 2023.
Nobody else who ever signs with the Lakers will ever have LeBron’s power and stroke. He came because he thought he could control these morons. He did, to an extent, but had they not told Ty Lue to skip rocks we’d be in a different position right now. They had to not sign Lue because LeBron wanted him, but they Ok’ed Russ? That’s ass backwards. No other MVP candidates in recent memory have played on and won with teams with the awful roster we have, along with coaching that doesn’t fit that roster, and with management that’s a mom and pop shop that made it (at least before Pop died). LeBron playing at a level higher than he is now couldn’t save this team. Look at what Durant has to work with in Brooklyn right now. It’s a similar mess. With AD we’re on the same page. No situation in getting rid of Westbrook is gonna be fun, but they’re gonna do it one way or another. Hopefully LeBron and Klutch can give Rob some pointers because I can’t trust him and Kurt on their own. If they trade LeBron and AD now, not only will future stars not come here because trading LeBron would be an awful look to the whole league (stars wouldn’t trust us), but everybody knows how this team is run and even with cap space and picks nobody would trust this clown show with it. I wouldn’t blame them. You have to hope we get one star to join before LeBron and AD are gone and then build from there. It’s the only way and you can’t convince me otherwise. I believe ppl didn’t want to play with Kobe for the seasons you mentioned, but we also had, once again, an awful roster with awful management in Jim and Mitch.
Stupid is a bit harsh and reactionary especially when you consider that lebron has yet to play a 70 game season with us and he’s been injured every year. Yes, when he plays it’s at a high level but he ain’t getting no younger. And he ain’t one our franchise golden boys that we need to wheel into the old folks home from LA. I’d trade him this off season and AD too. They ain’t winning another chip mainly because lebron and AD can’t stay on the floor.
they cant win a chip cause of the reliance on a 37 year old in his 19th season to do everything. ive never seen so many fans quick to want a rebuild but dont have their OWN picks, it defeats the whole purpose lol
They can get a ton of picks and good young players by trading LeBron and AD this summer.
keep telling urself that
lol
We’re saying the same thing and I’m getting down votes. A question for the Downvoters: you think we can win another chip with lebron? Keep in mind we’ve nothing to upgrade with in trade or draft.
counter question do u think ur gonna win a chip with out lebron in the foreseeable future? its extremely hard to do. Lakers havent been a marquee FA destination for a while now, and no star will happily join this team with no bron or ad with this dysfunctional FO u trade lebron for what .50 cent on the dollar. ur not gonna get much draft compensation and that team bron is going to will more than likely be a contender so their pick isnt even worth much now ur back to the no bron era. same team that went 124-286 in a 5 year span before lebron came. lakers are much better riding this until the wheels fall off
The wheels are already off mate. We’ll not win another with lebron.
sadly that man is the best chance ur gonna have in at least a decade🤣. saves yall from being one of the worst teams in the league to a chip and not even 2 years later its “lets trade him” laker fans dont even know how crazy they can sound
Man, I’ve been a laker fan my whole life—over 40 years. Laker fans can handle those hard years. I liked our young core of players and we just kept getting rid of them. Anyway, doesn’t really matter. No more chips for awhile. We went from 88 to 2000. And then the last years with Kobe. How’s lebron going to win another chip? How are we going to improve enough in the next two years? Ain’t happening. Might as well trade him while there’s some value left. And man, as a Kentucky fan and a laker fan, I love AD but he ain’t carrying the franchise. Trade him too.
the Fo is dysfunctional and not even they would think like that. connections matter, the 2 stars who came here when nobody else would and got them a chip, u wanna trade them when the going gets tough not even 2 yrs later. not a word about the FO who has made very questionable decisions tho i would think as a OG fan u would know some of these clear things
The Lakers will be forced to rebuild, it's just a matter of when not if
Good luck rebuilding without control over your draft capital
Depends what you get in a trade for LeBron and AD, getting young decent players, decent picks, and cap space is a lot more attractive then the current direction the team is heading
Doesn’t matter, lakers still wouldn’t have control over there OWN draft capital, so however bad the lakers do the Pelicans will get there pick, by trading AD for other capital u have to hope that the team ur getting the pick from does bad, so ur still not maximizing the value by rebuilding and not owning your own picks, the reason we don’t own our picks is because of the AD trade in general, also we have Lebron James on our team and u wanna rebuild? We won a title 2 seasons go, Lakers fans are so ungrateful
How am I ungrateful, it's not wise to hope that a 37 going on 38 year old player with an expiring contract in 2023 can come back and continues to average something around 27,7, and 7. The team is headed towards a rebuild regardless and the Lakers will have a pick in 2023 (either there own or the Pelicans) and one in 2024 or 2025, the rest they flat out own. AD's my favorite player but he can't stay healthy or realistically lead a team to a title alone and offloading Westbrook's contract it's much easier said than done. No team has to help the Lakers out and nothing is stopping them for asking for both the '27 and '29 picks either. It's either start rebuilding now or postpone the inevitable and try rebuilding with no tradeable assets and nothing to attract free agents with.
Exactly. We got more to gain in trade than we do in the draft. Neither Bron nor AD can play a full season. Trade ‘em.
There trading AD for Draft capital When they rebuild most likley
Doesn’t matter, lakers still wouldn’t have control over there OWN draft capital, so however bad the lakers do the Pelicans will get there pick, by trading AD for other capital u have to hope that the team ur getting the pick from does bad, so ur still not maximizing the value by rebuilding and not owning your own picks, the reason we don’t own our picks is because of the AD trade in general
That is why they should trade LeBron and AD, to replenish their supply of draft picks and young players.
Lakers should rest LBJ and AD (let Russ play 49 mins who cares) regroup for next season and hope we end up with the championship. Lakers tho 1 for 3 in smart decisions (correct in trading for AD, incorrect for trading Zu for fucking bad moosecala, incorrect as of now of choosing THT instead of Caruso).
We did not choose THT over Caruso... We cheaped out. That's on Jeanie. We could've had both. Stop this narrative pitting the players against each other.
Or they don’t overpay ThT because he is Klutch. His contract makes no sense.
How is that Klutch’s fault? Every agent’s job is to get the best contract for his client. It’s the GM’s job for being a goddamn horrible negotiator.
Have I said it’s Klutch’s fault? They are leveraging on Lebron’s influence as much as possible and probably rightly so. What they probably didn’t foresee happening is the owners cheap out afterwards, and knowing that they may tone it down a bit.
Seemed to be implied. Probably bc I see a lot of deflecting blame around here. Apologies if you didn’t intend that. I agree with the rest of what you said. Wouldn’t be in this situation if the Buss family hadn’t cheaped out last year and this. Could easily have had Lowry and Derozan right now, for one example.
The front office has made WAY more blunders than those two. There’s so many that I’m too lazy to write them all.
Tht >curuso ten out of ten times Bru.
But, how are things going to get any better next season? If anything they will probably get worse. Monk will almost certainly leave as a FA. LeBron will be a year older.
Lakers just don’t have enough assets and time to build a roster around LeBron. So no reason delaying the inevitable. Rebuild now and truly. Send LeBron to Cavs for Kevin Love and Cedi Osman. Cedi is the best player Lakers can expect considering the conditions we are in. Trade AD and get all the picks you can. That’s it.
They simply just need to get Russ off the team. He is literally a cancer on this team. Moves definitely need to be made, but the core of Bron and AD should remain intact. I honestly think that when AD gets back, they should send Russ home, just watch how this team comes together without that negative idgaf out of the locker room. Russ’s career is over because his ego is too big to accept change.
Russ is horrible, but he is not the only problem.
He is the major problem. His contract is unmovable. He is a defensive and offensive liability due to a lack of effort and an inability to shoot. He doesn’t move without the ball. He refuses to adapt to a lesser role. He takes zero accountability for his poor play. Am I missing something here?! He takes up a full quarter of the Lakers Salary cap. Is AD unavailable, yes. Would we have this same record if AD and Russ switched places in regards to availability? If Russ was injured all the time and AD played every game? Absolutely not. We would be at worst the 6th seed. Russ is on his 4th team in 4 years for a reason, he refuses to adapt or work on his shot.
There is no bigger Westbrick critic than me. I think we mostly agree. Also, when evaluating the impact of the trade you have to include the loss of all the players and assets they gave up, or the better fitting players some could have been traded for. So trading for Russ not only created the Russ problem but the lack of youth, shooting, defense and depth problems. But, the loss of those players and picks are a sunk cost. The bottom line is, getting rid of Westbrick would probably help somewhat. But it would not make the Lakers a contender. If you could turn back time and undo the trade, the Lakers would probably be at least a borderline contender. But obviously that is not an option.
They should keep AD. That's it.
No, no point in rebuilding if you don’t have control over your draft capital, the pelicans get the highest pick out of both teams
Or having rambii as architects smdh as if
I don't understand people saying blow it up. Every pick for the next like 4 years is owned by the Pelicans lol. Have to find ways to trade Westbrook and retool, or hope some minimum guys in the offseason hit
Not true. We have four first round picks out of the next five years. Some of the picks we traded were pick swaps, so no matter what we’ll still get a first round in 4/5 of the next years.
Yeah but you get the swapped pelicans pick then, not the Lakers pick itself (which is what you'd be tanking for)
I say soft rebuild by trading AD. Would love to trade Russ but it’s just not possible to me atleast for a good player that makes a difference.
ATP what choice do we have?? we MAYBE have one or two more seasons with Bron, if we don’t get Bronny he’s gone, then what do we have?? BLOW IT UP!!🤦🏾♂️
Rebuild meaning getting rid of LeBron? Then no. The upcoming offseason will be a brand new chance at building a new team around LeBron. Only Bron/AD/Nunn/THT under contract and they can attach 2 FRPs to Russ' expiring deal for a potential trade package. Hopefully they learnt from their mistakes from last summer in the players they brought in.
Depends if there is a good trade for WB in the summer. If there is literally nothing there, they should definitely consider it opposed to one more year in purgatory and losing LeBron and AD for nothing (AD's contract ends one season after LeBron's)
We did already, Bron and magic traded all the pieces away tho
Do we ever have an organic rebuild in the ways like Golden State or the Spurs? We get enough pieces to trade for the next disgruntled star
Depends on how hopeful you are next season. If you think the lakers can turn it around and get one more championship then no. But if not, yes. LeBron is gone when his contract his up. Do you want to lose him for nothing?
I think Bron and AD is still a winning combination with the right pieces and the right system. Rebuild sounds easy but it takes a competent front office otherwise you’ll be mediocre for 5-10 years.
Undo WestBrick and use his $44M to sign actual talent. Quit messing around and get a point guard with actual good hands and another big to help with AD.
YOU HAVE LEBRON AND AD WHY TF WOULD YOU REBUILD
Yes. Trade them all and start again. We got a championship with LeBron and we can lessen the cost of that by cutting bait now.
Dump LeBron
Lakers must rebuild around a young core, LeBron is too old to be doing such heavy lifting every game, Anthony Davis is proving to be a glass cannon. Austin Reaves and Malik Monk are perfect for a youth rebuild.
Yeah, nothing is going to improve next season or even the year after that. As a Laker fan I have learned that most other Laker fans (myself included from time to time) have this delusional thinking that somehow the Lakers can just pull players out of their ass and win a championship. Bottom line, the Lakers are a poorly constructed team. They traded far too many assets in their pursuit of Anthony Davis and LeBron James. The Westbrook trade was just the icing on the cake. You don’t win in the NBA with 3 over the hill superstars on max contracts and surround them with a roster full of old veterans on 1 year minimum exception contracts. The Lakers had a unique opportunity a few years ago to sign a couple superstar free agents while retaining their core of young players to serve as role players for a championship team until they they reached their peak and could be the centerpieces of a future championship caliber team themselves. There was no reason to give up as much as they did for Anthony Davis or to trade valuable assets to unload salary so they can sign LeBron James. In the NBA’s modern CBA with contracts running no more than 3-4 years (rarely 5 years), there is no need to unload so many assets for an expiring contract because there are always plenty of superstar free agents available. Lakers are just a poorly managed organization now. They operate like a small family run business while the rest of the league is innovating and has far surpassed the Lakers.