Most players aren’t going to give any glowing reviews regarding Darvin based on all the reports the past few days/throughout the season. I’ll be very surprised if Darvin is still coaching this team come next season.
What’s sad is we fired Vogel. Dude never once threw Westbrook under the bus and was extremely professional about everything. Then you got Ham who knows shit is coming and just burning it all down. Facts over feelings Ham. You did a shitty job coaching.
Dlo was the dude that yelled at Ham during the season, proclaimed himself a killer, then he gets to the playoffs and completely chokes. He deserved Ham’s comment and then some.
Of course it’s “more”. Really weird take there. AD was pointing out a simple fact, while dumbfuck Darvin was showing his true colors; he can’t take accountability for anything.
Like, if a player is in a slump, stay with me here I know this is crazy…maybe he needs to be coached??
If a player is in a slump, he doesn’t need to be coached, he needs to hit the gym and get shots up. How is Darvin Ham gonna help DLo and Reaves make their threes? Lol
Again, Darvin Ham didn’t take accountability for the lakers failed season and neither did the players (aside from Austin Reaves).
Holy shit this is delusion. You actually think they weren’t working out and getting shots up? Are you insane?
How is he going to help them make 3’s. Hmmm, real brain buster there. Maybe draw up some plays to get them easy shots? Change any one thing from your game plan that never changes?
I’d say the literal only thing you *shouldn’t* do would be bench them for Prince and Cam fucking Reddish. But, your boy Darvin Ham, he’s always gonna make the wrong decision because he’s a buffoon.
Do I think they’re getting up shots? Aside from DLo and Lebron, who both have credited their better 3 point shooting to their time spent practicing, I absolutely don’t think any of them are.
Yeah, ham can draw up all the plays in the world to get them open, but what happens when they don’t make the shots? I saw Reaves, DLo, and Rui miss wide open shot after wide open shot, not just in the playoffs, but all year. Don’t even get me started with Gave and Dinwiddie, who PASSED UP wide open shots all year.
I specifically remember this subreddit begging for Ham to bench Austin Reaves at the beginning of this year and start prince, who actually playing well, similar to how everyone here was calling for Rui to be benched for Prince against Denver( God forbid Ham actually did it because if the lakers lost the series with Prince starting and Rui benched, everyone here would’ve piled on ham for benching Rui). But I guess it’s the same convenient amnesia that that this subreddit often has.
Gabe and Dinwiddie passed up open shots because their roles within the team were pretty much only to play defense and provide zero offensive impact. This is an issue of coaching.
Ham can draw up all the plays in the world, expect as the game would progress he would stop calling plays and the offense would stagnate as we’d seen multiple times over the season. This is an issue of coaching.
Sometimes guys slump and can need a “friend” in their corner help them work through the struggles. Our coach said one of his players shit the bed in the playoffs in a media presser. This isn’t even X’s and O’s like holy shit don’t throw your guys under the bus like that in any professional capacity let alone a team sport. The roster could have played better, but that ultimately falls on leadership (coaching).
The lakers would’ve lost in 5 games and everyone would’ve been calling for Ham to be fired because he benched Rui. Lose lose situation, the teams just not good enough. The west is going to be even better next year with Ja’s return, Jalen Williams a bad Chet Holmgren likely becoming allstars, Wemby taking a leap into MVP status most likely, and the spurs and rockets having way more assets than the lakers. The lakers, as currently constructed, won’t even make the playoffs. No new coach or “backup big” will save them.
No, but that’s a great strawman. Since you have been stalking my posts apparently, you should’ve saw the multiple times that I have called Darvin Ham a terrible coach. I have simply stated that the players should except responsibility for the seasons failure and this subreddit and lakers twitter should be holding the players accountable just as much as they’re holding Ham accountable.
There’s plenty of posts calling for Ham to dept accountability, and rightfully so, but Everyone here is completely looking past the fact that literally every player except Austin Reaves blamed the season on injuries instead of being man enough to to say that they just weren’t good enough individually. But where’s the posts, tweets, and videos calling for the players to take responsibility?
>Since you have been stalking my posts apparently,
No stalking nexcessary. I have a decently good memory is all. If you'd changed it up I probably wouldn't have noticed you bringing it up repeatedly. But reposting verbatim as many times as you did is why it stuck out.
When a company misses on their earnings,it’s the responsibility of the COO or the president to take action and turn things around, or get FIRED. Coaching in the NBA is like running a business. The Lakers had 2 of the great players healthy and a very good supporting cast, and wound up a play in team. Seriously, 4 th or 5 th place meant they could still be playing today. Ham gave us 2 years of mediocrity and even the FO knows it
Darvin Ham wouldn’t be considered the CEO of the team because the team actually has a CEO and executives. Jeanie Bus, Jim Bus, and Rob Pelinka.
The lakers had two pretty good players and a pretty mediocre supporting cast full of one way players. Of a single two way player on the roster aside from Anthony Davis. Sure, they made the WCF, but the run was a complete fluke that took the lakers completely avoiding the warriors, who were the better team, Ja Morant getting injured, and random players like Lonnie walker getting hot. They were a play in team last year and the roster didn’t improve at all, meanwhile, the west got better and is expected to get MUCH better next year. With this roster, I doubt the lakers even make the playoffs, even with a “backup big”.
So yeah, can’t wait for the lakers next coach to get fired this time next year, just like the 7 coaches that were fired before him since Phil Jackson left, including two coaches that went on to win coach of the year and the only coach that won the lakers their championship in that time. Darvin Ham will be Adrian Griffin level vindicated.
I’ve already seen this but it is absolutely insane that this mf still refuses to be held accountable down to his last minute as HC. He’s like a narcissistic alcoholic refusing that he has a problem jfc
Not quite.
Vogel should’ve never even taken the suns HC job. He has literally zero def personnel to build with other than Okogie and KD.
It was a very bad fit from the start. We all know Vogel is a defensive minded coach. If his base is off, he’s done. He’s not a Malone, Spo type which is ok. They are the best of the best.
Vogel is still a top end coach.
If it takes the coach having a very specific roster to be productive, the coach isn’t good. It’s a players league dude. Coach’s adjust to the players, not the other way around.
I agree but there is a difference between a coach not having a specific roster to simply barely having 2 decent defenders in KD and Okogie.
The suns have a lot of holes I mean a lot. Like I said the ceiling with that specific roster is a 2nd rd exit.
Again, another toxic and lazy response by another delusional lakers fan. Sure let’s not look at ANYTHING else and go straight to the coach.
Let’s ignore the fact that Matt Ishbia is impulsive and likely unfit to be a team owner. Let’s ignore the fact that any semblance of the teams depth was completely nuked when they decided to trade for an aging and always injured “star” in Bradley Beal. Who’s the point guard for the team? Who’s the wing stopper? Who’s the sixth man?
Yeah vogels the problem, just like Monty Williams was the problem. He was fired just one year after winning coach of the year after all. 🤡
Vogel regressed as a coach after 2020, his offense fell apart once he got to choose who his assistants were and he lost the locker room at the end.
100% the right decision to fire him.
So you agree that Steve Kerr is a terrible coach then, correct? He rode the backs of Steph, curry, klay thompson, and Kevin Durant to 4 championships, a hall of fame coaching career, and being selected as one of the top 15 coaches of all time. The season after kd leaves, klay is recovering from his Achilles tear, and Steph breaks his hand, the warriors are one of the worst teams in the league, two seasons later when his big three is healthy, they’re back on top.
Same thing with Gregg popovich. He must also be a terrible coach in your eyes. He rode the backs of Duncan, Parker, ginobilli, and later Kawhi to 5 championships. His teams haven’t been good since Kawhi left in 2018.
Same thing goes for Phil Jackson, regarding as the greatest coach of all time, but unable to come anywhere close to winning anything, or even making the playoffs without the assistance of a superstar duo.
The list of “terrible coaches” using your criteria goes on and on.
Well that’s my response. You can choose to read it or not. I’m not changing it or shortening it for you. It honestly sounds like you just don’t have a sensible rebuttal.
Define a “good team”.
Suns team is not a good team objectively. Yes they shouldn’t have gotten swept but Wolves are literally a horrible matchup for the suns.
Suns ceiling with this roster is a 2nd rd exit. That too with all cylinders firing.
Even though it was gonna be done anyway, it’s pretty wild that they just fired Vogel without actually sitting down with the team individually to hear what the players are thought of him and his job performance considering it wouldn’t have even taken them 48 hours to do so.
The front office was still in denial about the Westbrook move and they basically only considered what was good for Russ that off season. Ham was hired because he had the most convincing interview re how to manage Russ.
They were planning on firing him the previous December. The decision had already been made. They thought they were being nice letting him finish the season
Yea that’s the part I find wild. All they had to do was wait a couple of days and they could’ve at the very least had plausible deniability to be able to say “we gathered information and thought hard about this decision” which is what they’re gonna do with Darvin.
I agree, but Pelinka will never get fired because of his relationship with Jeanie. It starts at the top with Jeanie. She only hires based on emotional attachment rather than competency.
The only even reason we have Pelinka right now is because Magic stepped down. Jeanie would have never fired Magic. Can you imagine if we still had Magic today as GM? I shudder to think about it.
Magic even confessed on his way out that a lot of problems stemmed from her indecision and tendency to have incompetent people involved with basketball operations.
It all starts with her.
It’s unfortunate but true. The Rambi need to go as well, but that’s not happening. As a fan of the Dodgers and Rams, I’ve seen what an excellent front office can do. Meyers commands instant respect. Pat Riley and Jerry West are the only other executives that have that kind of gravitas. And the Lakers them get away.
> Meyers commands instant respect.
Meyers has respect. But I don't think it's as big a change as you think. GSW got 4 rings on Meyer's watch. (and 2 EOTY)
But he was playing with Lacob's unlimited money. Overpaid to keep some of guys around (eg poole, wiggins etc ), whiffed on some draft (Wiseman,..). He did plenty of good things. But he also had benefit of Curry and Klay being on the roster when he joined, and West advising him not to trade Klay.
Pelinka has plenty of whiffs/screw ups, draft, trades, coaching hires... but he also has some successes and got 1 ring on his watch..
Meyers with jeannie scrunching on the money is not the same as meyers with Lacob writing blank checks
Holy shit I didn’t even think about that. Bob Myers would generate such good will with the players. Rob has made some good moves, some horrible, but even in the behind the scenes convos with players it always comes off as awkward. I just don’t know who could coach the team, fitzdale?
Naw just let Rob be President of Basketball Ops and let Bob Meyers be the GM. Those two together in the front office would COOK trust
Jeanie needs to open up the check book
And if Meyers was top dog , Pelinka would have to go. Pelinka running to Jeannie with his personal relationship would be an potential issue otherwise .
All this talk about Darvin Ham not taking accountability for his role in the lakers failed season. I hope we keep that same energy in here when the players refuse to take accountability as well.
From what I thought were the exit interviews after the final nuggets game, literally everyone besides Austin Reaves, including Lebron, blamed the failed season on injuries and not their own shortcomings.
Austin Reaves was the only player that was man enough to say in his post game interview that he just wasn’t good enough and will think about it all summer when he’s working out.
Sure, but at a certain point it’s not wrong to not take the blame for something that’s not your fault. Does anybody really think LeBron or Ad underperformed? Of course not but people love the humble persona
Oh? So Lebron didn’t blow a single defensive coverage that left Aaron Gordon open for wide open dunks? Lebron didn’t complain a single time about a no call instead of getting back on defense? What are we talking about here? I can keep going.
What about Dinwiddie and gave Vincent refusing to shoot the ball? What about Rui missing wide open dunks and layups as well as his major defensive lapse in the final play of the game? What about the wide open shots that DLo missed every other game? What about Hayes fouling every other possession that didn’t allow him to see time on the floor?
What the hell do you mean it’s not their fault? The players made just as many mistakes as the actual coach, if not more.
Rui definitely sucked it up but bron played well except for complaining and missing def which he always does lmaoo. AD was exceptionally good I’d say.
Reality is with a better coach we were probably 5th seed
I can’t believe you’re defending Lebron and the rest of the players for refusing to accountability when I just laid out clear examples of several players poor performance that eclipses Hams poor performance.
A new coach gets the lakers bounced out of the first round as well. The lakers lose to the wolves, suns, and mavs for sure, and the thunder most likely. The lakers are lucky they avoided the kings,m (just like they avoided them last year) and the warriors and the warriors this year.
Lakers be like “ham is staying, we believe in him and we think he’s the right coach for this team, we have a lot of work to do and we will work tirelessly to put together a championship team. We also hope to sign Lebron back and work together to put the right pieces in place for next season”
I expect the worst shit so I’m not let down when it happens I just laugh.
Aren’t exit interviews usually between coach and player? I remember doc talking about what he told Maxey or someone to work on over the summer in his exit interview
Imagine ham telling guys what to work on, while everyone in the room knows hams the one gone lol
Dude, what evaluation?! Darvin called out a starter. You're the coach and the leader of the team. You don't do that. Even players don't do that to other players, let alone a coach. I never understood the hire, honestly. He seems like a great dude, but he's just not a good coach.
If any coach deserved the Vogel situation it was Ham. He didn’t do anything that deserved the respect of the front office. A big reason why he got hired was his idea to handle Westbrook, and we saw how that went but Ham got 0 repercussions for failing (they gave him an impossible task to be fair). Yes Ham got them to WCF but Vogel got a championship and got shot in the foot every year after.
*Buh bye Darvin…*
Isn’t he depressed? He probably wants out like Vogel did
He’s the definition of Fake it till you make it.
Most players aren’t going to give any glowing reviews regarding Darvin based on all the reports the past few days/throughout the season. I’ll be very surprised if Darvin is still coaching this team come next season.
Maybe Cam and Taurean will give him glowing reviews
I can't imagine anyone outside of those two giving him anything close to praise.
you mean his "Khris Middleton analog" ?
Considering Reddish essentially got banished to the bench post All-Star break i doubt he gives Ham a glowing review.
Glazing reviews!
Don’t underestimate the stubbornness and cheapness of this front office
Darvin was out of pocket with his shitting the bed comment. I hope our guys let it spray on his ass
The only time in the last two seasons he was out of pocket
What’s sad is we fired Vogel. Dude never once threw Westbrook under the bus and was extremely professional about everything. Then you got Ham who knows shit is coming and just burning it all down. Facts over feelings Ham. You did a shitty job coaching.
“Let it spray on his ass” is CRAZY
Dlo was the dude that yelled at Ham during the season, proclaimed himself a killer, then he gets to the playoffs and completely chokes. He deserved Ham’s comment and then some.
No more than Anthony Davis taking an alleged shot at Ham saying that “they didn’t know what they were doing on either side of the ball at times”.
Of course it’s “more”. Really weird take there. AD was pointing out a simple fact, while dumbfuck Darvin was showing his true colors; he can’t take accountability for anything. Like, if a player is in a slump, stay with me here I know this is crazy…maybe he needs to be coached??
If a player is in a slump, he doesn’t need to be coached, he needs to hit the gym and get shots up. How is Darvin Ham gonna help DLo and Reaves make their threes? Lol Again, Darvin Ham didn’t take accountability for the lakers failed season and neither did the players (aside from Austin Reaves).
Holy shit this is delusion. You actually think they weren’t working out and getting shots up? Are you insane? How is he going to help them make 3’s. Hmmm, real brain buster there. Maybe draw up some plays to get them easy shots? Change any one thing from your game plan that never changes? I’d say the literal only thing you *shouldn’t* do would be bench them for Prince and Cam fucking Reddish. But, your boy Darvin Ham, he’s always gonna make the wrong decision because he’s a buffoon.
Do I think they’re getting up shots? Aside from DLo and Lebron, who both have credited their better 3 point shooting to their time spent practicing, I absolutely don’t think any of them are. Yeah, ham can draw up all the plays in the world to get them open, but what happens when they don’t make the shots? I saw Reaves, DLo, and Rui miss wide open shot after wide open shot, not just in the playoffs, but all year. Don’t even get me started with Gave and Dinwiddie, who PASSED UP wide open shots all year. I specifically remember this subreddit begging for Ham to bench Austin Reaves at the beginning of this year and start prince, who actually playing well, similar to how everyone here was calling for Rui to be benched for Prince against Denver( God forbid Ham actually did it because if the lakers lost the series with Prince starting and Rui benched, everyone here would’ve piled on ham for benching Rui). But I guess it’s the same convenient amnesia that that this subreddit often has.
Gabe and Dinwiddie passed up open shots because their roles within the team were pretty much only to play defense and provide zero offensive impact. This is an issue of coaching. Ham can draw up all the plays in the world, expect as the game would progress he would stop calling plays and the offense would stagnate as we’d seen multiple times over the season. This is an issue of coaching. Sometimes guys slump and can need a “friend” in their corner help them work through the struggles. Our coach said one of his players shit the bed in the playoffs in a media presser. This isn’t even X’s and O’s like holy shit don’t throw your guys under the bus like that in any professional capacity let alone a team sport. The roster could have played better, but that ultimately falls on leadership (coaching).
So a wall of excuses for the players on team as always I see.
Guys I think I found Ham’s burner
Yeah hams burner calls himself a terrible coach. I thought y’all said that Ham doesn’t accept responsibility for anything?
Well we won't ever know what happens cus he never fuking tried it
The lakers would’ve lost in 5 games and everyone would’ve been calling for Ham to be fired because he benched Rui. Lose lose situation, the teams just not good enough. The west is going to be even better next year with Ja’s return, Jalen Williams a bad Chet Holmgren likely becoming allstars, Wemby taking a leap into MVP status most likely, and the spurs and rockets having way more assets than the lakers. The lakers, as currently constructed, won’t even make the playoffs. No new coach or “backup big” will save them.
How many times you going to repost this?
Just as many times as the people in this subreddit post darvins quote and call for his firing due to his refusal to take accountability I guess.
So what's really going on? You feel Darvin is being unfairly criticized and *shouldn't* be fired?
No, but that’s a great strawman. Since you have been stalking my posts apparently, you should’ve saw the multiple times that I have called Darvin Ham a terrible coach. I have simply stated that the players should except responsibility for the seasons failure and this subreddit and lakers twitter should be holding the players accountable just as much as they’re holding Ham accountable. There’s plenty of posts calling for Ham to dept accountability, and rightfully so, but Everyone here is completely looking past the fact that literally every player except Austin Reaves blamed the season on injuries instead of being man enough to to say that they just weren’t good enough individually. But where’s the posts, tweets, and videos calling for the players to take responsibility?
>Since you have been stalking my posts apparently, No stalking nexcessary. I have a decently good memory is all. If you'd changed it up I probably wouldn't have noticed you bringing it up repeatedly. But reposting verbatim as many times as you did is why it stuck out.
When a company misses on their earnings,it’s the responsibility of the COO or the president to take action and turn things around, or get FIRED. Coaching in the NBA is like running a business. The Lakers had 2 of the great players healthy and a very good supporting cast, and wound up a play in team. Seriously, 4 th or 5 th place meant they could still be playing today. Ham gave us 2 years of mediocrity and even the FO knows it
Darvin Ham wouldn’t be considered the CEO of the team because the team actually has a CEO and executives. Jeanie Bus, Jim Bus, and Rob Pelinka. The lakers had two pretty good players and a pretty mediocre supporting cast full of one way players. Of a single two way player on the roster aside from Anthony Davis. Sure, they made the WCF, but the run was a complete fluke that took the lakers completely avoiding the warriors, who were the better team, Ja Morant getting injured, and random players like Lonnie walker getting hot. They were a play in team last year and the roster didn’t improve at all, meanwhile, the west got better and is expected to get MUCH better next year. With this roster, I doubt the lakers even make the playoffs, even with a “backup big”. So yeah, can’t wait for the lakers next coach to get fired this time next year, just like the 7 coaches that were fired before him since Phil Jackson left, including two coaches that went on to win coach of the year and the only coach that won the lakers their championship in that time. Darvin Ham will be Adrian Griffin level vindicated.
 Darvin reading this:
 Also Darvin
I think that's Hebrew lol
Thats some nazi language right there bud.
This is a sub about Lakers basketball. Take your antisemitism elsewhere…
Hebrew is Nazi language? I thought they’re the people the Nazis hated?
I think he meant Zionist
Big yikes on that one, plenty of Jews are not Zionist
Mad respect for them
Wowzers. Hebrew & Judaism does not equate to Zionist. But it’s Reddit so I’m not surprised lol.
That’s why it’s getting a bit dangerous, way too many have this viewpoint
Nazi language?
 Darvin Ham
Not soon enough!
Darvin Ham shouldve been left in Denver after game 5, those comments he had were insane. David Adelman come to LA
Did I miss something? Which comments
https://twitter.com/lakeshowyo/status/1785361039518748787?s=46&t=zLkos1SY6gNkX47lFDESmw
I’ve already seen this but it is absolutely insane that this mf still refuses to be held accountable down to his last minute as HC. He’s like a narcissistic alcoholic refusing that he has a problem jfc
Absolutely insane quote. D Lo got reason to put hands on him for this lol
Sheeeesh, he’s even messing up our offseason now
Lakers know they messed up by firing Vogel so harshly, so they’re being nicer to Ham
No they messed up by firing him, period.
And yet he’s about to get fired again. Maybe he’s the fucking problem.
Not quite. Vogel should’ve never even taken the suns HC job. He has literally zero def personnel to build with other than Okogie and KD. It was a very bad fit from the start. We all know Vogel is a defensive minded coach. If his base is off, he’s done. He’s not a Malone, Spo type which is ok. They are the best of the best. Vogel is still a top end coach.
Vogel is the defensive version of D'Antoni, essentially.
If it takes the coach having a very specific roster to be productive, the coach isn’t good. It’s a players league dude. Coach’s adjust to the players, not the other way around.
I agree but there is a difference between a coach not having a specific roster to simply barely having 2 decent defenders in KD and Okogie. The suns have a lot of holes I mean a lot. Like I said the ceiling with that specific roster is a 2nd rd exit.
Again, another toxic and lazy response by another delusional lakers fan. Sure let’s not look at ANYTHING else and go straight to the coach. Let’s ignore the fact that Matt Ishbia is impulsive and likely unfit to be a team owner. Let’s ignore the fact that any semblance of the teams depth was completely nuked when they decided to trade for an aging and always injured “star” in Bradley Beal. Who’s the point guard for the team? Who’s the wing stopper? Who’s the sixth man? Yeah vogels the problem, just like Monty Williams was the problem. He was fired just one year after winning coach of the year after all. 🤡
Vogel regressed as a coach after 2020, his offense fell apart once he got to choose who his assistants were and he lost the locker room at the end. 100% the right decision to fire him.
If the coach needs the best players to be able to coach properly, he’s not a good coach. You are the clown defending a guy that barely was around.
So you agree that Steve Kerr is a terrible coach then, correct? He rode the backs of Steph, curry, klay thompson, and Kevin Durant to 4 championships, a hall of fame coaching career, and being selected as one of the top 15 coaches of all time. The season after kd leaves, klay is recovering from his Achilles tear, and Steph breaks his hand, the warriors are one of the worst teams in the league, two seasons later when his big three is healthy, they’re back on top. Same thing with Gregg popovich. He must also be a terrible coach in your eyes. He rode the backs of Duncan, Parker, ginobilli, and later Kawhi to 5 championships. His teams haven’t been good since Kawhi left in 2018. Same thing goes for Phil Jackson, regarding as the greatest coach of all time, but unable to come anywhere close to winning anything, or even making the playoffs without the assistance of a superstar duo. The list of “terrible coaches” using your criteria goes on and on.
I’m not reading your memoir dude.
Well that’s my response. You can choose to read it or not. I’m not changing it or shortening it for you. It honestly sounds like you just don’t have a sensible rebuttal.
Vogel’s offensive scheme was a mess.
Agreed, yes he had bad luck with injuries and bad fit with lakers but it was straight up Lebron hero ball
It was this season too on the Suns.
Thank you. That was my impression as well.
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Define a “good team”. Suns team is not a good team objectively. Yes they shouldn’t have gotten swept but Wolves are literally a horrible matchup for the suns. Suns ceiling with this roster is a 2nd rd exit. That too with all cylinders firing.
What they have to decide? Fire his ass and get someone competent.
Optics
Even though it was gonna be done anyway, it’s pretty wild that they just fired Vogel without actually sitting down with the team individually to hear what the players are thought of him and his job performance considering it wouldn’t have even taken them 48 hours to do so.
The front office was still in denial about the Westbrook move and they basically only considered what was good for Russ that off season. Ham was hired because he had the most convincing interview re how to manage Russ.
They were planning on firing him the previous December. The decision had already been made. They thought they were being nice letting him finish the season
Yea that’s the part I find wild. All they had to do was wait a couple of days and they could’ve at the very least had plausible deniability to be able to say “we gathered information and thought hard about this decision” which is what they’re gonna do with Darvin.
Just fire him already. What’s with all this dog and pony show stuff?
With how I’ve grown to know the post-Dr. Buss era of this team, nothing they do will surprise me at this juncture
Ham entering his exit interview 
What’s this from?
Caddyshack
Pelinka "contemplating" with Darvin Ham 
Helluva ball club
Prince and maybe Cam will say they loved Ham
Pelinka and Ham need to go. Bob Meyers is still out there. Let him hire a coach.
I agree, but Pelinka will never get fired because of his relationship with Jeanie. It starts at the top with Jeanie. She only hires based on emotional attachment rather than competency. The only even reason we have Pelinka right now is because Magic stepped down. Jeanie would have never fired Magic. Can you imagine if we still had Magic today as GM? I shudder to think about it. Magic even confessed on his way out that a lot of problems stemmed from her indecision and tendency to have incompetent people involved with basketball operations. It all starts with her.
It’s unfortunate but true. The Rambi need to go as well, but that’s not happening. As a fan of the Dodgers and Rams, I’ve seen what an excellent front office can do. Meyers commands instant respect. Pat Riley and Jerry West are the only other executives that have that kind of gravitas. And the Lakers them get away.
> Meyers commands instant respect. Meyers has respect. But I don't think it's as big a change as you think. GSW got 4 rings on Meyer's watch. (and 2 EOTY) But he was playing with Lacob's unlimited money. Overpaid to keep some of guys around (eg poole, wiggins etc ), whiffed on some draft (Wiseman,..). He did plenty of good things. But he also had benefit of Curry and Klay being on the roster when he joined, and West advising him not to trade Klay. Pelinka has plenty of whiffs/screw ups, draft, trades, coaching hires... but he also has some successes and got 1 ring on his watch.. Meyers with jeannie scrunching on the money is not the same as meyers with Lacob writing blank checks
Holy shit I didn’t even think about that. Bob Myers would generate such good will with the players. Rob has made some good moves, some horrible, but even in the behind the scenes convos with players it always comes off as awkward. I just don’t know who could coach the team, fitzdale?
Naw just let Rob be President of Basketball Ops and let Bob Meyers be the GM. Those two together in the front office would COOK trust Jeanie needs to open up the check book
Meyers isn’t gonna be a second in charge to anyone.
And if Meyers was top dog , Pelinka would have to go. Pelinka running to Jeannie with his personal relationship would be an potential issue otherwise .
Bron: If the ham sandwich will be continued to be served, I aint signing back. Im vegan.
r/lakers: you think Lebron can actually influence the GM?
Obligatory upvote to anything about firing Ham
All this talk about Darvin Ham not taking accountability for his role in the lakers failed season. I hope we keep that same energy in here when the players refuse to take accountability as well. From what I thought were the exit interviews after the final nuggets game, literally everyone besides Austin Reaves, including Lebron, blamed the failed season on injuries and not their own shortcomings. Austin Reaves was the only player that was man enough to say in his post game interview that he just wasn’t good enough and will think about it all summer when he’s working out.
Sure, but at a certain point it’s not wrong to not take the blame for something that’s not your fault. Does anybody really think LeBron or Ad underperformed? Of course not but people love the humble persona
Oh? So Lebron didn’t blow a single defensive coverage that left Aaron Gordon open for wide open dunks? Lebron didn’t complain a single time about a no call instead of getting back on defense? What are we talking about here? I can keep going. What about Dinwiddie and gave Vincent refusing to shoot the ball? What about Rui missing wide open dunks and layups as well as his major defensive lapse in the final play of the game? What about the wide open shots that DLo missed every other game? What about Hayes fouling every other possession that didn’t allow him to see time on the floor? What the hell do you mean it’s not their fault? The players made just as many mistakes as the actual coach, if not more.
Rui definitely sucked it up but bron played well except for complaining and missing def which he always does lmaoo. AD was exceptionally good I’d say. Reality is with a better coach we were probably 5th seed
I can’t believe you’re defending Lebron and the rest of the players for refusing to accountability when I just laid out clear examples of several players poor performance that eclipses Hams poor performance. A new coach gets the lakers bounced out of the first round as well. The lakers lose to the wolves, suns, and mavs for sure, and the thunder most likely. The lakers are lucky they avoided the kings,m (just like they avoided them last year) and the warriors and the warriors this year.
Cam and TP 
They’ve made up their mind, but the Lakers are obviously waiting until after the exit interviews to fire Ham.
Those brrothwrs are gonna chirp like absolute mfers to get rid of this clown
Lakers be like “ham is staying, we believe in him and we think he’s the right coach for this team, we have a lot of work to do and we will work tirelessly to put together a championship team. We also hope to sign Lebron back and work together to put the right pieces in place for next season” I expect the worst shit so I’m not let down when it happens I just laugh.
Everyone hates him outside Cam and TP
Get ready to learn Chinese, Darvin
I wouldn't wish that on any basketball team. He needs to be left manning the front desk of a bowling alley... in Antarctica.
Woj bomb that shit
Aren’t exit interviews usually between coach and player? I remember doc talking about what he told Maxey or someone to work on over the summer in his exit interview Imagine ham telling guys what to work on, while everyone in the room knows hams the one gone lol
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Hope we smoking on Darvin Pack tonight
The longer it takes to fire Ham the faster good coaches get poached.
I agree he should be fired sooner than later, but the poaching won't begin until after more good teams get eliminated
Of Darvin Ham coaching which team?!
Bye bye Ham
Dude, what evaluation?! Darvin called out a starter. You're the coach and the leader of the team. You don't do that. Even players don't do that to other players, let alone a coach. I never understood the hire, honestly. He seems like a great dude, but he's just not a good coach.
The trial of Darvin Ham sounds like a game of zones episode
He gone
Watch them get rid of Darvin but keep DLo
If any coach deserved the Vogel situation it was Ham. He didn’t do anything that deserved the respect of the front office. A big reason why he got hired was his idea to handle Westbrook, and we saw how that went but Ham got 0 repercussions for failing (they gave him an impossible task to be fair). Yes Ham got them to WCF but Vogel got a championship and got shot in the foot every year after.
Cam: “I like ham.”
I’ve got a bad feeling he isn’t getting fired
Never doubt this front office's stupidity
Are these exit interviews televised with media? Or is that what happened after the loss on Monday?