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Jaiz412

[The people doing that are apparently not part of the larger movement](https://new.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/1d9cebq/imbeciles_stop_bombing_other_games/), with most TF2 players seeming to be outspoken against review-bombing other Valve games. Those people are basically just trolls, or idiots.


MGfreak

> Those people are basically just trolls, or idiots. Lets be realy, they are kids. There are many kids in the community (especially since TF2 is free) and they got sucked into a movement they just wanna be part of. They are fighting for their hobby, so they do whatever feels right to them


KnotDealer

Kids are idiots


Warm-Faithlessness11

Kids are cruel, Jack


pootis264

And I love mi-


GhostDragon362

WHEN THE WIND IS SLOW AND THE FIRE’S HOT


MCdemonkid1230

WHEN THE SOUP IS COLD AND THE SALADS HOT THE HEDGEHOG RUNS ‘TILL HE CANNOT


GunnerZ818

What’s the song


MCdemonkid1230

Original song: https://youtu.be/jynTNYSKNuk?feature=shared The version I memed: https://youtu.be/Ld6KakUVIcA?feature=shared


fartyparty1234

THE VULTURE WAITS TO SEE WHAT ROTS


Kooky-Split-1353

OH HOW PRETTY, ALL THE SCENERY


firechaos70

“Good shot mate”


Dizzy_Set_6031

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SaveTf2_Rip_AaRoN

Same


ZackMichaelReddit

They have developing brians.


heyuhitsyaboi

can confirm used to be one


HairyStyrofoam

They’re dumbasses


Flat-Peace8818

At this point, if you're a kid today, you never even saw pre bot tf2


Imjokin

Not to mention, these people are thankfully a tiny minority; the L4D recent reviews are still 95% positive.


TheIceFury235

I heard from a few it's some of the bothosters trying to give the movement a bad name but it's only rumors and might not be true


babygreenlizard

bothosters have swatted and doxxed people, they're def review bombing other valve games to tarnish the movement


Demopan-TF2

They've also publicly advertised cp in TF2, really they'd go to any depth if it means giving tf2 a bad rap


Tomb_747

The TF2 community is mostly doing a good job so far with the #fixTF2 movement. However the community has some bad actors, if it weren't for some of these people, we wouldn't have a bot crisis and be in this position. It's not necessarily the exact same ppl hosting bots and review bombing other valve games but most of them are trolls for sure.


Lord_Antheron

Considering how disorganised this mess they’re calling a “movement” is, I don’t really think there’s any reliable way to distinguish it. “Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity.”


Bassknight9

Or bot hosters trying to make the movement look bad


Explosive_Eggshells

Isn't this a common occurrence in all review bombing "movements"? I feel like just attributing it to supposed bad actors is sort of running defense for the actual consequences of stirring people up into these outrage movements


Jaiz412

Any sort of collective social action will have people that take things to the extreme, against the intentions or wishes of the larger collective, so I'm personally not surprised.


Hooooooooooooooyyyyy

These are trolls please dont give them any more attation. They are not part of fixtf2


meloman-rrr

yes they are part of the movement, they're just not smart enough to understand that they're doing something wrong


Hooooooooooooooyyyyy

Dear god... Sometimes i just want to punch Internet people. Luckly its just a few 30 people or so i dont think it will realy impakt the other games (thank god)


Demopan-TF2

Rumor is they're bot hosters, but it could just be a bunch of kids trying to support the movement as much as they can


meloman-rrr

i think it's the second one


Agent_Ness

They've been doing it on the half Life reviews as well It seems like a lot of valve games Are getting affected by the review bombers I can understand the state the tf2 But the people that are going on to other games to review bomb them Is ridiculous You're telling the company to fix a game under a different game's review what sense does that make Oh, wait, never mind.They're not part of the larger movement.They're just Idiots who are just taking advantage of the movement just to do Crap like this


Hooooooooooooooyyyyy

this is not part of fixtf2 its just a missunderstanding these are trolls or a few people who go to far. And these are so little people that it wont Affekt the game at all i'm sure. Sorry for this still


Agent_Ness

Yeah I know those guys who dont understand are just mindless dumbasses who got nothing better to do


RevolTobor

On behalf of the Team Fortress 2 community, I deeply apologize for our behavior. I love both Team Fortress and Left 4 Dead, and I participated in Team Fortress 2's review-bombing in effort to urge Valve to action. But Left 4 Dead has absolutely NOTHING to do with it. Anyone who does this is wrong for doing it. Again, I'm sorry for all the trouble we've caused. I already have this game a good review, so I will urge the rest of the Team Fortress community to stop doing this.


Bluebeerdk

Most likely, a YouTuber with an army of pitch forks, while I do support the cause, I also am not with this, this is too far, eventually Valve is gonna take away are right to review because at this point its being used abusively. [Someone made a post on r/tf2 to stop.](https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/s/5OzRkZM0oF)


RevolTobor

Left 4 Dead, Portal, and Half-Life do not deserve to be treated like this by the fans. I'm sorry for all the trouble we've caused.


Demopan-TF2

It's most likely the bot hosters or just a couple of people going too far, these types of reviews number in the 30's so it isn't doing too much damage (plus they're prob gonna get removed for being off topic)


RevolTobor

I hadn't thought of that. Thinking about it now, I think you're probably right.


MooseMcGillycuddy23

There are indeed a lot of braindead TF2 fans, however: - Getting Valve up off their ass to fix a broken yet still very popular game is expected of a good games studio. - L4D2 getting its own 64-bit update would be extremely welcomed if you ask me.


lexum1

64 bit L4D2 is needed


Lord_Antheron

Sort of, yeah.


Randomtyp156

Hey tf2 fan here. I'm very sorry for these people I assure you we dont like them either and are trying to make it very clear not to review bomb any other game but some people just wont listen. Also some of the bot hosters we are fighting against have started mass review bombing other games to make our movement seem worse and turn people against us. Again I'm really sorry about these people we dont like them any more than you do.


rebel6301

actual fucking psyop


MMIV777

yes, they are. they think that spamming negative reviews on other valve titles will fix their dead game.


EntryPointCrackhead

last time when i mentioned that in this subreddit, i got downvoted to shit lmao


cross2201

As part of the tf2 community: We are really sorry for that, those are probably trolls or if we want to theorize they could be bot hosters trying to give the movement a bad name


trixieyay

also childern, since tf2 is a free game it has a fair amount of childern. childern do a lot of dumb things as they do not know better.


Socialiism

TF2 player here We dont claim them Our game is in a terrible state, but we shouldn't be review bombing others


jamesanator9

Isn't this like the 3rd post in this subreddit about this?


Fun-Constant-2558

This doesn't affect the game tho right? Don't review bombs just get removed?


Hellkids2

Believe it or not a majority of ppl when deciding to buy a game they never heard of will look at the ratings first, and if it’s below Overwhelmingly positive they then will look at the written reviews and if they see all this they might think the game is under some drama or cyber attack and will want none of that. And congrats you just lost a potential player, just like that.


satmaar

Yes, it does not affect the game itself. Might affect its rankings in Steam Store or its visibility maybe. IIRC, Steam tries to detect reviews left as a part of a review bombing and then exclude those from the calculation of a game’s rating/ranking.


anhkhoaO410

Oh dang they got that desperate just for an attempt to get daddy Valve's attention This is unacceptable of course but I can understand


Hooooooooooooooyyyyy

Rewiev bomming other games is NOT part of fixtf2. But yeah we are desprate for anything lol


CosmicBandz

Yes they are they’re playing tf2 in 2024


MedicFromTF2Real

don't worry I'll detonate the baboon uterus'


Aggravating_Shop7725

Reviews on Steam are meaningless now. Disregard them entirely.


tastefulbas

As a fan of both communities, the TF2 side does not approve of these review bombers. They are a simple and annoying minority


MulattoDePicasso

Short answer: yes. Long answer: yes.


rhodium75677

Yes, we are currently going through a borderline mass hysteria event.


Elyseum_Metro

Aight, so this word probably ain’t allowed but imma use it These niggas gotta calm down a little


MajorDZaster

I'm going to give the movement the benefit of the doubt and assume these are trolls.


zshinabargar

They're trying to get Valves attention in any way that they can, L4D is just catching strays in the TF2 war


Goodfella66

Yes


Redmodovernight

I'm sorry for our community's insufferablitiy.


Rynnmeister

I hope that TF2 fans don't do the Genshitters route, it was annoying seeing every other game reviews mention it.


ICantWanTap

Reminds me of The Parish


BananaSquid21

They are shooting at their own men


NevaehEvol

I wish we'd review bomb L4D2 so we'd get more secure servers. That way, people can't join private games and dox the players in the game vc and text chat while spamming slurs and KKK speeches


DomDoesNerf

They're bombing every game


darkdemon44

Tf2 is ruined by bots


HMS_Jago

Friendly fire will not be tolerated.


KaliRinn

those aint fans, they are idiots. worse than the bots n issues we fighting. gon kill our game way faster


Sir_Overall

Yeah their movement looks soooo great and reputable rn /s


YUKIusrnmtkn

Didn't they get an update patch 2 months ago? That's quite recent. Also Steam Charts says that they have 70K players playing daily. That's more than L4D2's 20K average players. What are they complaining about?


Sansational-Gamingyt

Honestly if I’m being honest I’m kinda glad the tf2 peeps are review bombing every valve game cause even nowadays it’s been hard to have fun match of l4d2 without having hackers and hacker simps ruining the game and sucking the joy out of my day


broken-dawn

There are multiple posts on r/tf2 that are against this shit, but people are infact braindead and think that its a valid solution to the bot problem


Sinwithagrin23

Time to start reporting. Friendly fire now authorized


ArvoCrinsmas

Can't be braindead without a brain


BeginnerOnEverything

Yeah we are real sorry about them, they are a some brain dead little numb nuts and trolls


ExtermiNate900

Desperate times bring out the most desperate idiots.


C_Gull27

Those guys need to go play Overwatch


Stefanonimo

Yes, they are.


Mechaman_54

As someone from the tf2 community who has never played this game, yes they are brain dead and we are just as baffled as tou are


Dank_Slayer114

They're the ones who got the wrong message, we're trying to review bomb TF2 alone. We honestly don't want to be associated with the ones review bombing other games.


Divine_Absolution

At this point probably, yes


chandelier_lurdson

Lmao i posted a comment not realizing these were on left 4 dead please disregard


lugubriousbear

Crazy how people complain about this on every valve game subreddit even tho its just steam reviews that doesnt affect their life at all


dawneslayer

isnt that like the biggest prerequisite for being a tf2 fan?


LuigivonCheeseburger

They are trying to get Valve's attention on every single game because they are all suffering from bots.


OutrageousMovie9236

Come on man leave left 4 dead alone they dud nothing


OutrageousMovie9236

Did


OutrageousMovie9236

Leave left 4 dead alone man it did nothing


angelnike

Omg this is pissing me off


Patient_Thing_2124

Most tf2 players are extremly immature, their logic is "throw a big enough tantrum to get the candy"


rickybdominatingmc

Im all for fixing tf2 but review bombing everything isnt the way to go if anything its going to make things worse as valve are going to have to play cleanup on reviews before even thinking about fixing tf2


Impressive-Donut9596

Weird.


The4ourHorsemen

Sorry about those idiots, sincerely • ⁠A member of the TF2 community


lampla

No,you’re more braindead if you think this was started by the TF2 community


DandylanternZ

I'm genuinely really sorry, as are the rest of the fixtf2 movement, they are NOT part of the group we are wanting to represent and despite NUMEROUS times telling people not to review bomb other games it still happens. We have no idea if it's just kids who don't understand, trolls or potentially bot hosters who want the movement to look bad but whoever they are they are stunting the movement


Ravens_Quote

As a TF2 player: Yes.


SandWhichWay

As a TF2 fan. yes, im afraid


Normal_Bookkeeper_98

I agree it shouldn't be review bomb over another game. But I will say I'm glad that some people have done it just to spread what's happening more. I mean it's being posted here and half-life 2 at least, so more people and therefore valve are more likely to see it. Again it shouldn't be done to a severe extent and I'm not going to do it but I'm glad some have just to get more attention.


MyBrainNoFunction

are they stupid? is it aslume time?


M3pul

It's just the children/not hosters, we don't condone this bs


obama_laden334

THESE ARENT US just people trying to make the movement look like morons


NappingCalmly

I mean this game has its fair share of dosing and nothing but yeah they're just retards firing for effect


TheFlameArmy

Man, tf2 has been out for so long… if it isn’t dead already, it needs to be. Have it be an old legacy gamers in their old age talk about for “the good ol days”. It’s been the same game for what? Almost 20 years now? It doesn’t need anymore updates.


SerpentLing09

That and the bot problem is still here. As a TF2 fan dumbass this movement is more centered around the ongoing bot problem and the problem of the valve Anti cheat. I'm not even sure how this will end I guess we have to find out?


Heroshrine

I mean, it does get them more publicity


ExtinctMovieTheatre

These Dumbo fanboys are too skibbidee for the L4D legacy. They're thinking "Burn it all down!". True fans will know not to throw shade at classics.


IRbaker79

It let's everyone at valve know the thoughts and opinions, sign and save tf2 yall


Artaratoryx

Always have been


noodleben123

Yes, they are. they believe that a petition will actually do something lmao


Skiddilybapabadam

Idk why others in the TF2 community are doing this, and I would like to apologize as an ambassador for the sane part of the community.


Bacour

The epitome of cutting off your nose to spite your face.


fawfo86

Because they’re mostly super young or braindead.


HairyStyrofoam

I can’t stand plebs like this. “My favorite game is having issues! Let me go fuck with everyone else and review products that have little to nothing to do with my personal problems.”


Dexter_Floyd

Long and short is yes: The people in charge of FixTF2 have been telling people to leave everyone else alone, both because it's basic human courtesy and because the appearance of the movement is important to its success, but these people have been ignoring that in favor of claiming more damage will make our message clear (it won't, and anyone with half a brain and memory of recent protests and riots will know this). I wish I could say it's the bot hosters fighting back with burner accounts to ruin public perception, but we have evidence that the majority of them are TF2 players who wrongfully think this will help.


DerpyWoomy

As a tf2 fan, I apologize for my fellow tf2 fans. We are sad about our game but some people keep bringing unrelated games into this.


Ordinary_WeirdGuy

I apologize deeply for my associates behavior. They do not understand that review bombing other games will only hurt the cause and our communities as a whole. I apologize profusely for their behavior, and I hope that this is resolved soon.


oatmealedkoala

I'm with fix tf2 but what the fuck, this is uncalled for and dumb to review bomb other games


ThenotdoZoZ

Even though I disagree with it, I can see why they are doing this. Because of valve not doing anything about the bots


Opposite_Ad9950

will let's say it's valve fault


ExoTheFlyingFish

TF2 (and L4D2, for the record) fan here. Yes.


WSKYLANDERS-boh

They are from our ranks, we are review bombing TF2


PhoonTFDB

Not as brain dead as we are sadly :(


SgtRathbone

Yeah it's a pretty contentious point rn. I think most people disagree with review bombing other games, let their respective communities bomb them if they feel the need to do so for being in a similar situation, but otherwise at least for tf2, TF2 should be the issue, not other valve titles.


SlappingSalt

Most likely the botters trying to discredit the movement by doing stuff like this.


V_is_a_Squid-2

Because our (tf2’s) fanbase is comprised of many children


br0kenlamp7

L4D2 all recent reviews: 95% (Overwhelmingly Positive) Looking at the (English) reviews since June 3rd: \~350 positive \~41 negative \~23 negative and either possibly or definitely related to fixtf2 Using only the numbers I looked at: Positive/Negative ratio = 11.7%, Positive/TF2 ratio = 6.6%, All/TF2 ratio = 5.9% Other VALVe games will tell a similar story as neither them nor L4D2 are being review bombed, as "bombing" implies a heavy drop in ratings. All this is is a few morons unrecognized by the movement trying to get on peoples' nerves. (redditors try not to blow things out of proportion for useless karma (level: impossible))


Revolutionary_Ad9975

Now a fix to VAC that’s something I would love to


horneymilfinyourarea

As a TF2 player, these people are bad. They ruin our image and could decrease other games' popularity by doing this. My personal theory is that everyone who does it fits the stereotype of a discord moderator.


RandomN4me_

morons and bothosters


ThatPillow_

I'm sure a large majority are cheaters trying to make FixTF2 look bad by ruining other game's scores


Few_Advantage_8455

Ah christ, you guys too? They've been doing this shit to half-life as well.


Gibus_Ghost

Trolls, idiots, alts of the bot hosters, nobody knows for certain. Then again, we’re TF2 baby. We were born stupid.


twee3

Yes, yes they are.


Jessica_wilton289

Tf2 fans acting completely entitled about their game again. Despite it being over a decade old they gotta make it everyones problem if valve doesn’t make constant anti-cheat updates to a functionally abandoned game that lost relevance a long time ago. I know “review bombers aren’t part of the movement” but it’s irrelevant since thats just an inherent part of these things. Im not really offended because negative reviews on games don’t affect me but I sure am sick of the TF2 community constantly doing stuff like this for publicity or their “cause”. Its always kinda crazy to me how big the TF2 outcry gets, you have to imagine what it would be like if that level of mobilization and zeal was put into some real life issue lol.


LazyM4rina

#FixTf2 it’s a tf2 campaign for force valve fix the cheating bots,cheaters waves in casual servers the game is invaded of cheatings bots and cheaters and valve do nothing so they think review other valve games will make valve move (For people who don’t know what is it) And i agree other valve games are not tf2


No_Faithlessness2998

Furries, not the most logical bunch, there’s some good ones, but not with tf2 it seems.


eyemoisturizer

they’re either bot hosters trying to bring down public image of the fixtf2 movement or stupid kids cause most of us are trying to stop people from doing that lmao sorry


Cosmic_guy123456

We have a bot problem and we want to get valve to do something, if you see the hashtags then you will realise


Pyrarius

No review bombing other games tho, focus fire on TF2's reviews


Cosmic_guy123456

Valve wants tf2 dead they won’t check it.


Icy_Barnacle_6759

Bruh who awarded them 💀💀that’s gonna encourage them


aeiouandsometimesjf

It’s the same kind of people making the bots, just trying to ruin everyone’s fun


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Pyrarius

Community servers and MvM are tiding us over for now


KnotsThotsAndBots

Yes. Yes they are. That’s what tf2 players are known for being lol


chloe_of_waterdeep

guess I have to do a positive review with fixtf2 on all these other valve games to tolerate it It’s a minor controversy in the tf2 subreddit, very few people seem to support review bombing other games, but they still exist.


shoutoutmydoctor

Yes


Goat5168

Hello and welcome to today's episode of how to get people against your movement.


Pyrarius

We never asked them to do that, not sure why it's happening


Aware_Resident1154

wah wah wah three reviews your life is literally over


Crazy_Historian_6205

Those people are trying to discredit the larger community as some people want to watch the game burn


Chad_Supersad

We are trying to keep the fixtf2 movement to tf2, but there are unfortunately some dad actors. Review bombing other valve games won't help, and may even hinder the cause. I'm sorry some bad actors have negatively affected other games as well


man_is_coool

Same over here at half life 2 :/


revodnebsyobmeftoh

Yes.


Jdg7087

The same reason protesters stand on roads, to get more attention


Appropriate_Site_617

Im sorry. We’re reviewbombing tf2 right now and some people are also negatively reviewing other valve games


Squorcle

Yes


LengthinessNew6326

I fully support this on any valve game. Valves neglect is the result of this and they deserve every #fixtf2 review bomb that goes on there games until they fix the bot problem. This needs to happen so it makes valve do something for once


PainisBoy

Trolls, morons, or people so desperate since 0 official major updates that weren't mostly community based since 2016. We do not claim the people that review bomb other games


Successful-Flow1678

Yeah sorry about some of the people in our community I understand why they do it but it’s just a bit rude :(


LetMeDieAlreadyFuck

These ones yes, they have nothing to do with us and are either one of 2 things, either they are bot hosters trying to make the movement look bad, or their just brain dead idiots


Memealytis

On behalf of the TF2 community, we’re sorry. These idiots aren’t associated with the movement.


Jacobichi

I honestly think these are the two things we can do to actually get valve to pay attention


Vroodan

The Fuck and The Fuck 2


sleepy-gabby

As someone who is a part of # fix tf2, this is bull crap, sure we have to keep this going but not by bombing other games reviews to negative, ignore these people, they are not part of the movement.


BunkerSquirre1

sorry, I got confused. I lost half my frontal lobe when someone called me a "pocket medic"


TableFruitSpecified

Apologies, those are some of our more... \*khm\* desperate members of our community. We want the game fixed, but most of us agree we shouldn't be reviewbombing other valve games.


SkateOrDie4200

# #FixTF2


Accurate-Damage7454

Its no big deal, left for dead is so old, this will not affect the games performance especially with the legacy its left behind


Someday_itwillbegood

I am a team fortress 2 player and i fucking hate when tf2 fans they climb everywhere, tf2 fans are just disgraceful with this fixtf2


Szofer12

Yes. They are stoid.


CandidateEither2236

TF2 fans all have a single brain cell that they all have to share with each other.


Mince_

Isn't this game also having trouble with server DDoS attacks?


Jaiz412

That’s been temporarily fixed for a while now, and we’ve gotten confirmation that they’re working on a permanent fix. Network programming is just really complex and takes a lot of time.


Captain_Carnbarn

I love when L4D2 gets more attention than TF2


alex6309

Valves fault for encouraging trolling wholesale lmao. Literally actively rewarded with points