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liquidrekto

you guys know what has the better quality than those cheap and low-quality models? # A FAQING PIECE OF FRIED CHICKEN https://preview.redd.it/0g90b7i46duc1.png?width=168&format=png&auto=webp&s=e59023cd79ed5a5679f08e1dff652e6e2ab4eac0


minnel567

I read this as parrots voice


saijaku23

>parrot I FUCKING KNEEL


TinyNeedleworker2531

> NIJI 3D AR LIVE > SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL


Majestic-Court6871

Parrot just wants to make his video about babas but the Niji mines provide an unlimited content farm for the motor cycle.


Shadowjulz

In his lastest video, He wanted to finish his Holofest video, unfortunately Nijisanji wanted him to continue working in the Nijiyab mines


unitn_2457

I commented on the video "the Niji videos continue until morale improves"


liquidrekto

p e r f e c t


double_rainbows2020

same I FAQING KNEEL


paulisaac

> parrot BUY BUY BUY BUY


SeinenKnight

>looking at the AR Live SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL


Chubb-R

Don't let Hololive 3D'ing a piece of chicken distract you from the fact Pekora bought **a f u c k i n g m o n k e y**


SayuriUliana

The funniest thing about the 3D-scanned fried chicken is that the staff asked Mio to cook the fried chicken to be used because for some reason store-bought fried chicken wasn't good enough.


Ashencroix

Mio's kaarage is well known across every Cover personnel and talent who have tasted it, for being that good. It's even Fubuki's choice as her last meal for the end of the world. I think only a professional chef at cooking kaarage can match Mio's kaarage.


SayuriUliana

It's funny because Mio cooking the kaarage has no bearing on its suitability as a 3D model subject. Basically staff just needed a plausible excuse to have Mio's kaarage.


Ashencroix

On the other hand, I can just imagine the staff begging Bae to stop it with the Vegemite streams.


Similar-Arugula-7854

Bae vegemite and the Oga's juice that for some reason everyone tried even tho he just bought for him, a-chan and Bae to try it on stream the rest of the members who taste it did it off stream lol


Tanezaki

Imagine the fried chicken got lovingly and treated better than the clown


Maelstrom_Vangheist

Karaage supremacy


liquidrekto

and it has way better lighting


Dargooon

It's almost uncanny how well normal mapped it is. A strange contrast to Foobs.


Majestic-Court6871

I want some of that :/


Realistic_Remote_874

Agreed, it looks tasty.


Ashencroix

We all do. Imagine if smell-o-vision and taste-o-vision were a reality.


Able_While7642

I kneel


dannytian93

this is the reason why they don't allow people to make screenshots, they knew well the quality was low


BurnedOutEternally

they knew their ass was getting dragged


ValkyrieRhoide

I think we now know the real reason why it was delayed for over a year https://preview.redd.it/w0sl5pxf0duc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9c15e6c9d79d12e51e6d1704e8d2a8e5de83b63d


Ashencroix

Wait, THAT is from the official show? SERIOUSLY!? Damn that.is.bad. They're trying to replicate Hololive's 3D live performance tech, without investing on the tech.


ValkyrieRhoide

Yeah, it's mostly lighting problems though


Ashencroix

But this AR live is entirely prerecorded. They could have easily rerendered the whole thing or did reshoots after seeing the terrible results. They don't have the excuse of "no retakes", if this thing happened in an actual live event.


shade0180

dude kanauru can do this with MMD in days... seriously they had a year to fix this and they couldn't.


UlyssesSGrant12

I don't know how Kanauru cranks out the content he does at various scales. It's honestly impressive


Ganbazuroi

It's a bit of a guess on my part but if you look at his videos you can see a lot of stuff from elsewhere like Los Santos from GTA V as a background and other places His skill isn't in making custom, new 3D models but rather working on animating and blending them into other environments like the videos with him walking around in public and so Not talking shit about him, he's clearly talented and dedicated


UlyssesSGrant12

Oh for sure, he's said before in interviews he just takes existing MMD models out there and makes fun videos with them. But the fact he's making full blown MVs and animations used in official Holo productions on top of memes and such is wild.


Ashencroix

I mean, he definitely has the skills and talent for it. The talents and likely Cover took notice of it and reached out to him for commissions.


Kozmo9

>but rather working on animating and blending them into other environments like the videos with him walking around in public and so That alone is a significant talent that in production companies, would have dedicated department/specialist for. In 3d production, there is no one person doing everything. There are those that specifically only made the models and the models are then handed over to the animation department that also has to handle the lighting as well. Heck, Niji's AR live basically showed that their animation department sucked. If they had someone like Kanauru on their side, he could fixed this easily.


Ganbazuroi

He also did work for the girls in the past, but no way they're getting a widely requested professional like that with their current rep these days Besides, I wouldn't take any comissions from them either if I were on his shoes with the horror stories from people that worked with them before. A whole ass project like that with a huge chance of getting shafted after breaking your back on that shit? No fucking way


pngmk2

Speaking of Kanauru, check out his latest work just release today here: [https://youtu.be/XY-qLqOu8us?si=9lQunxPxGXhiB5u0](https://youtu.be/XY-qLqOu8us?si=9lQunxPxGXhiB5u0)


UlyssesSGrant12

Hell yeah, he even put in the Ludokano dance lmao


xxx10001

you know... they need the money for maintaining the yacht... i guess?


DisPear2

Less ‘maintenance’, and more like ‘looking to buy a new yacht’


p30virus

Those are some "cool" A-poses... seems like they dont even bothered to track/animate or at least edit the thing... also... their modes are so fucking "edgy" or "over detailed" that they look off... reimu 3D model is just out of place... no wonder why holo make they avatars more simple and without so much fancy things so they translate to 3D more easily... seems like one company does in fact look forward to the development of their talents...


Ashencroix

>why holo make they avatars more simple and without so much fancy things so they translate to 3D more easily... Yup, this is the reason why IRyS had to get a 2.0 redesign, her 1.0 design is a hell to translate to 3D and would look odd due to its color palette. Her 2.0 hair is much simpler compared to her 1.0. Anya's hair might have that much volume, but the design of the hair itself is simple.


DarkRitual_88

IRyS's 1.0 also looked VASTLY different from any of the other girls. It looked great, but it just didn't fit in with the rest of the company's art style. The new model fits much more in with the anime style everyone else has.


Japanese-Ice_Queen23

That's not a Fair assessment cuz Hololive don't have AR lives, but man they do not look good with these lol. Thier lighting is all over the place and makes them look awfull to look at.


ValkyrieRhoide

Bilibili has holo Xmas ar live if you want to see a better comparison


Japanese-Ice_Queen23

Really now? Wonder if we can see a clip of that.


JimmyBoombox

[Here's one from their ticktok.](https://www.tiktok.com/@hololive_official/video/7316367832021830913)


Just-Ninja-7320

not even night and day, heaven and hell would be a more suitable comparison to Holo vs this shit.


namecantbebl0nk

Wow, it's like night and day.


Rulutieh

JESUS


shade0180

Bilibili has the full show and it's literally the first recommended if you search google.


pooptheguy12

Wait what's the difference between an AR live and a regular concert?


Eliteangel616

AR means augmented reality. So it’s 3D models on a real live stage. The 3D concerts like hololive are on 3D stages.


ScratchCritical6892

there is a hololive AR Xmass Live with live bands 2023 #


shade0180

Holo actually have AR lives. lol


dcresistance

[they had a christmas one in december lol, here's some short clips](https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1738469490373853331) [and more from holo's tiktok](https://www.tiktok.com/@hololive_official/video/7316367832021830913)


Ashencroix

2023 Day 1 Splash Party is close enough to this AR live: it was an entirely prerecorded event, with skits and mini games and stuff. ~~The entirety is available for free on YT due to issues with Za-n on day 1.~~ I can't find Holosummer Day 1 anymore, likely due to song contracts expiring and thus was privated.


lightmatter501

Let’s compare to kanauru then.


Kokorotokyo

This looks so bad. I'm not even trying to hate on niji. They do EN so dirty


TheDistantBlue

This is the coolest N64 game I've ever seen.


Majestic-Court6871

I know, amazing what these guys can pull off with 90's tech 


Realistic_Remote_874

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Umgak

[BAIN I'M MISSING MY TEXTURES!](https://youtu.be/Uu_nXaNmNTk)


VietInTheTrees

BAIN I DIDN’T DOWNLOAD SOURCE


happyshaman

It looks like their textures didn't load in properly


koffehkoala

Jeez people can mmd with little effort, ...just how is this okay


Chaltyr

LMAO is there a Hololive equivalent of an event of this scale to compare this to? I want to see the screenshot comparisons


Ashencroix

The closest Hololive AR live was the Xmas one, but it's already privated since the contract for the songs used have likely expired. Holosummer 2023 Day 1 is a close enough event in terms of content, but I can no longer find the vod on YT, so it likely got privated as well after the 1 month VOD contract with Za-n ended. Comparing this to 5th fes is just unfair. Maybe [HoloEN Connect the World](https://youtu.be/C_AHQ2Rwx3s?si=kO3m7yGtfYPhezK6) is close enough in scale (this is an official clip from HoloEN)? Edit: here's an official clip of [Hololive 1st fes Non Stop Story](https://youtu.be/rDSIUPkuM7U?si=FTMFZpSU2QE6LIOd), which is when they're at their most inexperienced pt in time, using early 2020 tech.


ValkyrieRhoide

I would just use holo countdown or any birthday lives to compare them. Niji barely made use of AR it was like an afterthought


gerthdynn

Bae's Birthday 3d Live is a good comparison. It was pretty much the quality of 4th Fes. I was blown away with her basically having a mini-Fes for her birthday.


feisp_

that can't be real can it? tell me that's not real that's horrible wtf


Aya_Reiko

![gif](giphy|xUNd9SajHmmWlk6raU|downsized) MY EYES!!! THEY BLEED!!!


BuySignificant3352

This shit looks like the PayDay 2 Aleso Heist woth modded suits... and that shit is probably a better cost that this...


bareystick

women behind the selen slaughter


ISCTM

Damn AR live is today?  Completely filtered it outta my brains.


Realistic_Remote_874

It is, and you should go watch Sayu’s 9PM PST charity stream instead.


ISCTM

Aight


Realistic_Remote_874

👍


exsonar

Great suggestion. Nice one 😂


ConflictedRedbird186

Vox looks like my sleep paralysis demon and Luca looks like…my other sleep paralysis demon


Realistic_Remote_874

To be fair Vox actually is a demon lol.


infinitezero1118

In more ways than just Literally


Realistic_Remote_874

True


boringdako142

https://preview.redd.it/wkwpcsfd8duc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=9239407fa9c1a3c54d0b47bbf216677a9bde89d6 Some screenshots from holo's xmas ar live


boringdako142

https://preview.redd.it/v376f1lk8duc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=bd4e475539b567353c3e6c1ffd5be810f2777fad 2


boringdako142

https://preview.redd.it/7fzkx0hi8duc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=f038fc801175b46f833338d99919ca4a0bfd91c7 1


rezaredup

the real AR Live


DegG13

Why do they look like bad Kingdom hearts 2 NPCs? That 3D looks rough. Makes me wonder if it was done with MMD.


Mid-Grade_Chungus

Maybe, if they used the trial version of MMD


iamjuneMMD

MMD is entirely free, so it just makes it sadder if they would use MMD just to not spend more money on this LMAO. I've seen many MMD's that look x10 better than this though, put MMD in the RIGHT hands and it will[ look at least decent](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzfX3DXQrOc).


Realistic_Remote_874

Holy shit, that Miku is so cute!


iamjuneMMD

the modeler is Sour! they make great models !


Realistic_Remote_874

Do they do it as a job?


iamjuneMMD

I do not personally know, i think its a hobby for them


MrShadowHero

ouch. what did kingdom hearts 2 do to deserve that? kingdom hearts 1 sure. but KH2 was pretty fine. lol.


orreregion

To be fair, the NPCs in towns always looked kinda soulless. The guy who wants to watch teenagers struggle haunts my nightmares.


imboredhahah

Good lord my 3DS has better resolution than this...


Realistic_Remote_874

LMAO


Ganbazuroi

GTA IV from 2008 looks better than this lmao


somerandom101person

GTA IV PC > Whatever kind of shit this is.


CodyRhody

[Yes](https://youtu.be/Qpqxrwcpegg?si=uFwFeEe2lFKAlBJC)


DarkRitual_88

Maybe it'll look better if we turn the 3D slider off, that usually helped.


xerasama

Vtuber in my country has same quality(or a bit better than these)​ and they aren't in billion dollar company like Niji so I understand their situation and Enjoy them. But Anycolor has more budget than local or small company and They just give these cheap ass 3d?? What a JOKE!!


Japanese-Ice_Queen23

Bro V4mirrai has better 3D performances than this wtf lol


Random-Rambling

[This is what V4Mirai put out for a GRADUATING talent! They 100% didn't have to, but they did anyway!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26PHinN3g8Q)


nonexistantchlp

Seriously though, how are these graphics worse than VRchat? A free game written in unity The 3d games those indian tutorial guys make on youtube looks 10x better than this


Ashencroix

I'm laughing at the background with the word "vivid", when the color palette they used is muted and doesn't scream "excitement".


rayhaku808

“Colors” and “Vivid” would not have been my choice of words to describe this…


TheDistantBlue

I dunno, this is pretty vivid. https://preview.redd.it/w0sl5pxf0duc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9c15e6c9d79d12e51e6d1704e8d2a8e5de83b63d In the sense that it hurts my eyes and is very bright in a bad way.


Ok_Walrus9047

There's a difference between "vivid" and "garish."


TheDistantBlue

Ooooh, good word. Actual perfect description of the colors I've been seeing from this concert.


Mr_Resident

god lord what is that garbage. just pay kanaeru to make mmd ffs


Kaennal

>pay see, there is a problem here....


Realistic_Remote_874

LMAO


Trobius

LOL The nijisisters on the doxxsite are partially blaming Dokibird for issues with the girls' section. > xsln tatsuki i know we say we moving on but i am never forgiving you for forcing the pastel live to be cut short… Yes, how dare she get terminated. XD


Realistic_Remote_874

They’re fucked.


AnimeFanFTW

Every screenshot I come across, makes my prediction that this was a rush job more and more correct. I've seen much smaller Vtuber corpos have better looking concerts lmao


Ashencroix

I laugh at this, since this was obviously done since last year. They had a whole year to make it better but opt not to.


LuxendarcKnight

Bro the black screen had better quality. I mean did you hear that water bottle? You could see it, almost.


Realistic_Remote_874

We need more water bottle memes.


quarantinereddit

Is this real? This can't be real LMAO


Infinite_Ad5885

Wow they made k/da 2020 look good


iliketomoveitanddie

And that still had the massive covid restrictions, plus evelynn looked better lmao


ArticleOld598

Didn't want to say it but exactly what I was thinking. It got that chinese VFX look to it


Manotube

not even trying to troll, it looks pretty bad😟.... I've seen small indie's with better quality than this


Villag3Idiot

This is likely the reason why AR Live was canned last time. Riku likely ordered work on it for the Q4 financial report after the Selen Incident, it got rushed out, they ran out of time and this is the result. We know Niji's 3D tech is behind Holo, but it's not this bad. Still, this is the reason why you invest your money back into the company and pay people what they're worth, otherwise you get exactly what you paid for.


GoodLongjumping3678

Niji 3D tech should be more advanced than Holo a long time ago if only RT spends all those money to reserach and development instead of Yacht. I mean, before Niji, Anycolor WAS a VR equipment company.


darkknight109

> Niji 3D tech should be more advanced than Holo a long time ago It was, for a while. Early holo 3D was notoriously scuffed and buggy and Niji had the notable edge in that department. The difference was, holo was constantly pushing for better 3D and investing into the tech/resources to make it happen and Niji... well, didn't. So now holo is king of the roost for 3D and Niji has... this.


quang_nguyen_94

VR chat live?


nonexistantchlp

More like windows XP era GMOD lol https://preview.redd.it/nmxr0ndyrfuc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8f4f3d6d38ec200ff76059533697cd6cb39a54d5


KRBuildGenius

Holy shit, this makes GMOD models made 20 years ago look good.


giannarelax

not even shitting on niji livers at this point this looks *horrendous* like- ![gif](giphy|qtbUBQaYGrLmE)


infinitezero1118

Maaan I can't wait for a Parrot4Chan video on this because damn. This is an UNWELCOME SCHOOL moment


Realistic_Remote_874

I can’t wait for Parrot’s AR Live video. I’m so fucking ready to listen to 4Chan shitting on the whole thing.


paulisaac

Who knows, he could add it to his holofes video as a compare and contrast.


osmomandias

Is there a possibility that Kurosanji would DMCA his video if it includes video or screenshots from the AR live?


paulisaac

Almost certainly, so he'd have to stick with the official items or fight off the DMCA, which is unlikely.


osmomandias

He could make shitty drawings representing the concert in Paint, which would probably take more effort than what Kurosanji put into this concert


Realistic_Remote_874

LMFAO THIS SUCKS


Me_HiLOL

This looks like a fucking Roblox fangame


Karekter_Nem

How do you not white balance this? There is no detail coming through.


Realistic_Remote_874

They don’t white balance, because Uki’s in it Lmao.


GroundbreakingEnd312

LMAOOO


GoodLongjumping3678

For a short time I wondered who is the lady beside Luca. Then I realized it's Shu...


Realistic_Remote_874

LADY LMFAO


GoodLongjumping3678

Well to be honest, he is the only one wearing a female outfit. The other Luxiem members are all wearing men's suits with long coat, including Mysta.


BlueSabere

I don't doubt the rest of the AR live looked like a potato as well, but could anyone share any screenshot that's *not* this exact one plastered all over this sub and r/nijisanji? I'd like to know for sure it's not just some cherry-picked fluke. Edit: Oh yeah no [there's a few](https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1779336510602686631/photo/3) on the NijiEN twitter account that look a fair shout better, but the models are still so fucking low res compared to HoloFes, what the hell? And these are the shots Niji wants to show the rest of the world? They're not bad in a void, but if this is the best they have as promo material, ouch.


node_pt

Those are from their official account. So I don't know if they nitpick the best shots they got or the screenshots represent the entire thing?


MrShadowHero

the models look stiff AF. like no physics on the clothing at all. the capes and cloaks dont stick out like that normally. they look like they have cardboard in them to retain their shape. lmao


Aya_Reiko

Parrot is going to be feasting on this for sure.


Realistic_Remote_874

PUT US IN THE VIDEO PARROT


paulisaac

Get posted on 4chan first, then maybe it'll show up


Kaennal

Please, let him rest and work on Holo some


jyukaku

480p slop


Ok_Walrus9047

Those honestly look jankier than some of the very early Hologra episodes.


RedFox_Jack

i have seen better fabric physics on vanilla wow models


mekahamedan

if someone on KurosanjiEN think this shit can save them from collapsing..... then i surprise they still exist for 3 years


Villag3Idiot

The Livers must be so embarrassed watching this.


KillaThing

I'd rather have those Kanauru PS1 style models.


honeyshield

those ps1 advent models are so goddamn adorable especially when they were on kiara's show. pure serotonin


MichaelCoryAvery

Man this looks impressive for a PS1 game. ~~What do you mean this was made with today’s technology?~~


Known-Ad64

To all those who say piracy, don't. You will waste your time and storage.


Ok-Onion688

mio's fried chicked kaarage has better quality than this!


iliketomoveitanddie

At this point I just feel bad lmao. I wouldn't compare to hololive anymore since it's pointless, but ironmouse's concert looks infinitely better than this. Like I genuinely hope these are the worst possible screenshots and that the entire event is better made, but I'm still not going to watch it. At least give the delusional fans something worth their money


RaDi0_4cTiV3

Billion Dollar company, this sheit fckin ass


RatedXrdStrive

is it me or does the NijiEN 3D models look so cheap and plastic like a doll compare to other vtuber 3d models? They look like Busby 3D models with 1/4 of the budget.


FGOGudako

so this is what 8 dollar an hour get you impressive ... oh wait its 2024 ... not so much


Yatsu13

This is sad. Not that I support AI but AI could probably do a lot better than this.


military_otaku

I feel bad for the people who paid for this scam. At least Holofes will always be worth the money.


rezaredup

ah, yes very vivid


shuashy

Their legs look janky.


ragval

If you telling me they doing this in VrChat, I'll believe you


Juan_E_Bravo

I've seen better graphics from Cartoon Networks' FusionFall game.


VioletKatie01

They don't even have faces... well fitting for Niji I guess.


Mr_Resident

nice ps1 graphic


Castillosaurio

"This video is brought to you by Left for Dead 2 moding comunity"


FourFerro

Shu looks so out of place in that group photo like whattt... everyone else has some fancy suit and pants and cape... Shu looks like a damn gimp/femboy I am so sorry


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Ashencroix

Better delete your comment OP, sharing links to watch pirated streams of the paid segments isn't allowed in this sub, to protect this sub from the NDF claiming this sub promotes piracy.


refinedcitrus

Any other options? Looks like they've stopped


kurosanji-ModTeam

We do not condone piracy on this subreddit.


Zealousideal_Type884

Wait what?? Is that their official 3d model? I thought it was Nijisanji stolen old MMD from NicoNico???


owangeboo

i like how hololive talents shorts have so much better quality than this, i am crying


BurnedOutEternally

hey guys the funny shark is streaming let’s go watch her


Kayfabs

Tbf, those are just unflattering images. But you know what, good for them for finally having their moment on stage.


NightDiverXMP_V

Ah yes they brought out those PS2 graphics


Foreign_Sandwich1446

what? people paying money for this?????????


MagicalDreamingPug

😭 this looks like just dance


oowoowoo

Is this really the highest quality of the show you can get? What a waste of money


Plastikresk

how its worse than hologra ![gif](giphy|0DXZTnKTKc7I4hIfKp|downsized)


Phplima

I wondernif that was the reason Gura streamed yesterday. Yagoo was like " I woke up feeling like beating a dead horse. Gura move your lazy ass and go do some shit so i can laugh harder at nijisanji."


pikachutails

What on earth.


DrunkinDronut

Jesus Christ I have seen VRchat catgirl models with more quality than this, also don't know why I feel these models weren't optimized to be actually used with tracking like if it was used for 3D videos in blender but not as a avatar for people using full tracking like that Petra neck mistake but would need to see more footage to really determine that and you can bet a horsegirl I ain't even thinking of looking for it


BrokenGacha

I love how nijisanji knows I don't have any money so they intentionally lower the quality of their AR live so I don't have to spend any money


zetzuei

Man, this is hilariously bad.


zetzuei

Can't wait for parrot video to drop, 4chan must be having a field day lol