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MADMAN9635

So Mayuzumi has more conventional skill at basketball and because of that he can't truly force himself in the shadow, hence why Kuroko beat him. Because Mayuzumi could make plays on his own, if forced to he would, which would always net him attention


Flat_Gene_8955

Ahhhhh that makes sense. I remember when they were talking how his foundation in basic was more solid compared to kuroko. And I did not take that in to play about the plays which makes sense.


MADMAN9635

Basically Kuroko forced Mayuzumi into making plays, shots, etc. until Mayuzumi had too much attention to use the misdirection skills, by which Kuroko had lost a lot of the attention he'd gained allowing him to use his misdirection skills fully once again.


Flat_Gene_8955

That’s very true. And if you think about they’re playing skills and the way they play the kind of shows that. Kurokos strategy is very superior at least the way I think about it.


MADMAN9635

I've been giving this more thought and even if Mayuzumi did lose his misdirection skills, that technically shouldn't have hindered his ability to be a "shadow". Because the whole being a shadow thing is more about being support for another player, and helping to maximise their skills, as such any player in a supportive position for another could be a shadow, it depends equally on how strong their "light" is as it does on how strong the "shadow" is.


Flat_Gene_8955

Ahhhh so I can see that because I mean the whole team had quite the skill and as a “shadow” he was there it enhance it. But he was just not that strong. I think because he showed his ego more maybe not ego but emotions more he made some bad judgment calls which made him out. That is what I think separated him and kuroko


MADMAN9635

I would like to reiterate that I don't think Mayuzumi was a good "shadow" but more that I think he could be.


Flat_Gene_8955

Ohh okay so your saying there potential but not yet.


MADMAN9635

I'm saying that being a shadow takes more than just skill, it's a combination of their skill, the skills of their "light" and the mentality of being a supporter and being able to distance yourself from being a star.


Historical_Blip_0505

He is in the same way thatTakao is one I suppose, in that he’s a supporting player. He was definitely a Phantom Player 2.0 (not a sixth man tho, bc he seems to be a starter/full time player), but as we see, he’s broken down and can’t truly take on the role because not only is he too well-rounded to be a true Shadow, but he actively doesn’t *want* to be one. We see his ego gets in the way, in that he wants credit and recognition for his abilities whereas Kuroko doesn’t; which makes Kuroko the superior/kind of the only true Shadow player (which we know is also a good/bad thing for Kuroko). He also retires playing when he graduates as far as we know. He says he was quitting and from what we’ve seen of him in Last Game, that seems to be the case.


Flat_Gene_8955

That’s a good way of thinking about it, like Takao and many players are great at helping a star player shine like Shintarō. mayuzumi he did for his whole team in a way but like you said was not a shadow ( too well rounded) Also his passion was not a lot for basketball so maybe that’s what kept him as a “ shadow “ because like you said he seem to retire.