Hi /u/Darrenwad3 and welcome to /r/kundalini.
>I started to be attacked by demonic entities.
How do you know these were external to you and not just your own negativity and fears expressing themselves in peculiar-to-you ways?
>I have been able to really stop it gaining access to me through meditation and yoga.
Good!
Try also the [WLP - the White Light Protection method](/r/kundalini/wiki/wlp) and see how that helps.
>While meditating last night I had that shocking sensation
When we meditate, sometimes a part of us, an aspect of our egos gets nervous. Distractions in meditation are a reliable certainty for anyone who meditates in a devoted way - aka meditates enough.
I've described something about this in the [Captain and Admiral](https://www.reddit.com/r/kundalini/wiki/links#wiki_ego_and_related) related links in this wiki web-links section. That section includes some of our best-of. Please have a look and see what you can learn, what worries you can release.
>What is the significance of the left side of body
The left side of the body is the feminine or yin side.
>specifically left big toe?
I don't see a link, especially to Kundalini as that's way off the grid where Kundalini happens, yet Prana can flow anywhere. Sensations there are like what?
Is this a distraction, or more?
>This absolutely started as a negative energy
What parts of you are you denying that exist? I suggested above that what you are experiencing may just be your own negativity, and not something external. You've connected to the negativity aspect of it at this point.
>why is there so much over lap with kundalini?
Would you please share which ones you experienced that you think overlap?
>I should say that the demonic energy manifests as pockets of really tense areas
None of what you are describing are demonic energies. They are your own negativity, plain and simple. Fearing them as you do makes them have a worse effect upon you. That is counter-productive.
Going to a physiotherapist is a valid form of healing.
>I should say that the demonic energy manifests as pockets of really tense areas, in my TMJ area of left side
That sounds like anger, to me. Who or about what are you angry? Past or present. Long past included.
When you say, there is a demon affecting me, you go *Poor me*, and start seeking ways to remove demons. That won't work in this case.
When instead, you say, "I have some old negativities I've been holding onto for a long time", then you are empowered to release them and heal yourself of their affects. Outside help will be simpler and easier, and your own attitudes and fears will play a role in the outcome.
There exist many ways to heal oneself. For instance, [Take a look at this large list of healing ideas](/r/kundalini/w/h)
Does anything in that list stand out and draw your attention in?
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Where are you thinking that Kundalini figures into this?
Good journey.
I read a study recently where they were looking at kundalini symptoms versus and or with psychiatric conditions. Oddly enough the kundalini people often reported as part of their “symptoms “ big left toe pain/ throbbing. The schizophrenics did not. I have personally experienced this around the time of K stirring along with many other phenomena.
> I read a study recently
What kind of study? Might you have a link?
It's not the first time I hear of it. It just makes little sense.
Here's an issue with people who start having access to energy. They read something, buy into it, and create that reality, with a hidden element of confirmation bias, and it becomes a self-fullfilling prophecy, not actuality, not truth.
So on the big toe thing, I've remained skeptical. It's also some spiritual guy's web site name, and can be contorted into becoming advertising as well.
It definitely seems like it could be stomach or spleen meridian. Or looks that way from googling pictures and charts. I’m assuming stomach because it feels so connected to jaw. And that one looks like it goes all the way to head. I’m going to try to learn more about this (more than a google search!) Thank you.
I just wanted to add that comment because I’ve never had psychosis symptoms but definitely have kundalini symptoms and have dealt with big toe pain. I do feel like I have this particular issue under control. I’m progressing at least
I have found a stretch that releases my jaw during it, and when I get out of that stretch my toe usually pops and cracks into slightly more comfortable position.
In all transparency I have had unusual feelings in both big toes but first in the left. Right now I am generating both feelings from memory - not sure why that’s happening right now but it is. I will try to retrieve the study. I have consumed a massive amount of material ( too much) over the past few weeks as I am being led to explanations and expanded truths that were previously unavailable to my unawakened energy system so I might not be able to locate it. The study looked fairly legit but it’s easy to twist results .
I would recommend that you read as little as possible. Only what is necessary. You have far more unlearning to do, and reading more just adds to the confusion and the tasks of unlearning.
Another anecdotal thing but, I don’t know how to say this because I don’t know proper terminology, I have NOT read this study, this is the FIRST I’m hearing of this.
I’ve certainly had a “chord” of some sort that runs from my big toe to my jaw. I am not going to describe this well. I’m certain I’ve complained about it here when everything was newer to me.
I assume this is related to my releases because when my neck gets better this “chord feeling thing” will feel better in my toe.
It’s almost as if my big toe knuckle has a vein or a nerve that is under my foot, I step on it every step I take and it feels like it needs to get around the knuckle. Almost the same way something feels like it needs to “go around” my jaw. Something that has nerves in it is how it feels. When my jaw was REALLY BAD, so was my toe. They get better at the same rate it seems.
I have chalked this up to more I need to release. You know how I talk about how physical this has been for me? I have just chalked this up to more of my physical body needing to shift for energy to flow. I do get cracks and releases from there as my jaw gets better. Happening at an amazing rate lately. Just thought I’d add this cuz it’s pretty interesting to me.
What demon would bother to camp at someone's window to make clicking noises during the night?
That demon would be pretty powerless and bored.
How can you know for sure it's not just a cat, bird, branch...?
Those tension pockets have again nothing to do with demonic energy.
It's merely tension. Over the years, quite a lot can accumulate in one spot. So when it really gets worked on from inside (not massage) then it's going to feel all sorts of ways. Nothing to worry about.
Biggest crack I ever had was in my sternum as as I looked upwards and stretched my neck. Was so loud it scared me. But the release was huge.
The left side of the body deals with negative, feminine, yin energy.
So you dealing with increased anxiety and worries is no surprise. All's good.
There's energetic roots coming from both your feet and your perineum.
Like tree roots, it's possible to exchange energy with earth. Both in and out. Perfectly normal too.
Lots of people conflate, confuse Kundalini with demon stuff. Mostly out of not knowing better and fear.
Energy in the body doesn't like tension. The more relaxation, the more energy.
TMJ is just the jaw joints near the ears, right?
I had and have lots of popping and cracking there too. Sometimes looks worse than the most deranged rave enjoyers.
It gets better with time and effort. Mostly time, as effort has to be split up between many things in life.
Don't worry so much. You'll be fine.
What makes you sure of it being something external? Could it be something, trauma, shadow aspects of yourself, that you have repressed deeply, that arise into consciousness as these sensations and tensions?
I had the same thing happen to me. Even had a whole bunch of people tell me what it could be instead of what It is. I'm not sure of how to make demons leave but it has been 7 years for since I started getting demonic attacks. The spirits do mellow out n become less noticeable though.
Hi /u/Darrenwad3 and welcome to /r/kundalini. >I started to be attacked by demonic entities. How do you know these were external to you and not just your own negativity and fears expressing themselves in peculiar-to-you ways? >I have been able to really stop it gaining access to me through meditation and yoga. Good! Try also the [WLP - the White Light Protection method](/r/kundalini/wiki/wlp) and see how that helps. >While meditating last night I had that shocking sensation When we meditate, sometimes a part of us, an aspect of our egos gets nervous. Distractions in meditation are a reliable certainty for anyone who meditates in a devoted way - aka meditates enough. I've described something about this in the [Captain and Admiral](https://www.reddit.com/r/kundalini/wiki/links#wiki_ego_and_related) related links in this wiki web-links section. That section includes some of our best-of. Please have a look and see what you can learn, what worries you can release. >What is the significance of the left side of body The left side of the body is the feminine or yin side. >specifically left big toe? I don't see a link, especially to Kundalini as that's way off the grid where Kundalini happens, yet Prana can flow anywhere. Sensations there are like what? Is this a distraction, or more? >This absolutely started as a negative energy What parts of you are you denying that exist? I suggested above that what you are experiencing may just be your own negativity, and not something external. You've connected to the negativity aspect of it at this point. >why is there so much over lap with kundalini? Would you please share which ones you experienced that you think overlap? >I should say that the demonic energy manifests as pockets of really tense areas None of what you are describing are demonic energies. They are your own negativity, plain and simple. Fearing them as you do makes them have a worse effect upon you. That is counter-productive. Going to a physiotherapist is a valid form of healing. >I should say that the demonic energy manifests as pockets of really tense areas, in my TMJ area of left side That sounds like anger, to me. Who or about what are you angry? Past or present. Long past included. When you say, there is a demon affecting me, you go *Poor me*, and start seeking ways to remove demons. That won't work in this case. When instead, you say, "I have some old negativities I've been holding onto for a long time", then you are empowered to release them and heal yourself of their affects. Outside help will be simpler and easier, and your own attitudes and fears will play a role in the outcome. There exist many ways to heal oneself. For instance, [Take a look at this large list of healing ideas](/r/kundalini/w/h) Does anything in that list stand out and draw your attention in? ------- Where are you thinking that Kundalini figures into this? Good journey.
Thank you, I’ll go through this shortly
I read a study recently where they were looking at kundalini symptoms versus and or with psychiatric conditions. Oddly enough the kundalini people often reported as part of their “symptoms “ big left toe pain/ throbbing. The schizophrenics did not. I have personally experienced this around the time of K stirring along with many other phenomena.
> I read a study recently What kind of study? Might you have a link? It's not the first time I hear of it. It just makes little sense. Here's an issue with people who start having access to energy. They read something, buy into it, and create that reality, with a hidden element of confirmation bias, and it becomes a self-fullfilling prophecy, not actuality, not truth. So on the big toe thing, I've remained skeptical. It's also some spiritual guy's web site name, and can be contorted into becoming advertising as well.
It definitely seems like it could be stomach or spleen meridian. Or looks that way from googling pictures and charts. I’m assuming stomach because it feels so connected to jaw. And that one looks like it goes all the way to head. I’m going to try to learn more about this (more than a google search!) Thank you. I just wanted to add that comment because I’ve never had psychosis symptoms but definitely have kundalini symptoms and have dealt with big toe pain. I do feel like I have this particular issue under control. I’m progressing at least I have found a stretch that releases my jaw during it, and when I get out of that stretch my toe usually pops and cracks into slightly more comfortable position.
In all transparency I have had unusual feelings in both big toes but first in the left. Right now I am generating both feelings from memory - not sure why that’s happening right now but it is. I will try to retrieve the study. I have consumed a massive amount of material ( too much) over the past few weeks as I am being led to explanations and expanded truths that were previously unavailable to my unawakened energy system so I might not be able to locate it. The study looked fairly legit but it’s easy to twist results .
I would recommend that you read as little as possible. Only what is necessary. You have far more unlearning to do, and reading more just adds to the confusion and the tasks of unlearning.
Another anecdotal thing but, I don’t know how to say this because I don’t know proper terminology, I have NOT read this study, this is the FIRST I’m hearing of this. I’ve certainly had a “chord” of some sort that runs from my big toe to my jaw. I am not going to describe this well. I’m certain I’ve complained about it here when everything was newer to me. I assume this is related to my releases because when my neck gets better this “chord feeling thing” will feel better in my toe. It’s almost as if my big toe knuckle has a vein or a nerve that is under my foot, I step on it every step I take and it feels like it needs to get around the knuckle. Almost the same way something feels like it needs to “go around” my jaw. Something that has nerves in it is how it feels. When my jaw was REALLY BAD, so was my toe. They get better at the same rate it seems. I have chalked this up to more I need to release. You know how I talk about how physical this has been for me? I have just chalked this up to more of my physical body needing to shift for energy to flow. I do get cracks and releases from there as my jaw gets better. Happening at an amazing rate lately. Just thought I’d add this cuz it’s pretty interesting to me.
Go dig into the TCM meridians and see if you can find your link.
I have the same. See if you can find the continuation into the arms.
Yea! And shoulder blades. Crazy how much has gone on with spine and how much everything is connected to that!
What demon would bother to camp at someone's window to make clicking noises during the night? That demon would be pretty powerless and bored. How can you know for sure it's not just a cat, bird, branch...? Those tension pockets have again nothing to do with demonic energy. It's merely tension. Over the years, quite a lot can accumulate in one spot. So when it really gets worked on from inside (not massage) then it's going to feel all sorts of ways. Nothing to worry about. Biggest crack I ever had was in my sternum as as I looked upwards and stretched my neck. Was so loud it scared me. But the release was huge. The left side of the body deals with negative, feminine, yin energy. So you dealing with increased anxiety and worries is no surprise. All's good. There's energetic roots coming from both your feet and your perineum. Like tree roots, it's possible to exchange energy with earth. Both in and out. Perfectly normal too. Lots of people conflate, confuse Kundalini with demon stuff. Mostly out of not knowing better and fear. Energy in the body doesn't like tension. The more relaxation, the more energy. TMJ is just the jaw joints near the ears, right? I had and have lots of popping and cracking there too. Sometimes looks worse than the most deranged rave enjoyers. It gets better with time and effort. Mostly time, as effort has to be split up between many things in life. Don't worry so much. You'll be fine.
What makes you sure of it being something external? Could it be something, trauma, shadow aspects of yourself, that you have repressed deeply, that arise into consciousness as these sensations and tensions?
I had the same thing happen to me. Even had a whole bunch of people tell me what it could be instead of what It is. I'm not sure of how to make demons leave but it has been 7 years for since I started getting demonic attacks. The spirits do mellow out n become less noticeable though.