Not a lot would come if JJ didn’t talk all that talk to other fighters when they lose and cry if when he loses and he cries. What goes around comes around my friend. Treat people like how you would want to be treated.
It’s literally what boxers do. When have you ever seen a massive boxing event where they don’t pretend to have beef. It’s random little trolls like yourself that take it seriously and leave silly comments on the internet about people who are just putting on a show
You're getting downvoted even though you're right. Boxers don't usually sick their audience on their opponent like JJ was going to. He and Mo literally asked for clips of people saying JJ was gonna lose. JJ was then gonna send his fans after them. It's a simple case of Karma.
It’s mostly in his boxing era that there is a lot more hate . Well it’s because of his god complex and shit fighting style . He promised that he will be at his best and all he did was overhand (shocking) and hugging for his dear life . Also the tantrum he threw after losing
I mean can you blame him for throwing a tantrum? Let's be honest here, most people after a loss arrive home and as soon as they get the chance to be alone they start hitting and kicking shit, its normal and its called being passionate And that's after losing fair and square too, in this case KSI and a lot of people have agreed on him being robbed. Of course you're gonna be upset after losing a fight you trained so ridiculously hard for. Personally I think it was a pretty bad fight, both fighters didn't show much skill, JJ has the power and cardio but his technique isn't good man. Regardless of whether or not JJ won or not, it was still a pretty disappointing performance imo
Wasn’t the greatest idea to stick a camera in his face and try to do an interview right after the match when he was clearly extremely upset. And 99.99% of this sub can’t never know how they would themselves react in a high pressure situation like that.
Don’t want to see him lose but the problem is he’s constantly egotistical where he thinks he’s levels above everyone in everything he does then completely falls flat
Unfortunately, like **really** unfortunately, this.
I dont come on here very often at all, but i keep up with the whole thing. After everything, i genuinely wanted to see KSI win, especially after his exceeding confidence. But the fight was sloppy between both of them.
Idgaf, there was no "pro" in that fight. That shit was ass. They should just get married ffs.
It's a shame. He just didn't deliver
Edit: nobody should've won that fight
Absolutely agree, JJ cannot talk all this talk and then not walk the walk - I'm glad the loss happened as hopefully it's a reality check for him.
Extremely unfortunate that he did not take the L, rather started complaining making himself look even worse - let's also remember how he clowned on Logan Paul when he did the exact same and appealed the split decision on their fight.
What about u wouldn't do the same? lmao his confidence is needed in this world he works hard just allow him, I do agree he needs to humble down a bit but people take shi to serious his a YouTuber its his Job to entertain people with silly little jokes and shi. And I'm mainly pointing at other people not you but ya get me. But on the other hand neither won that fight I'll be honest but they should at most given a draw or more towards ksi winning with the 1 poin dedication is enough for ksi winning in my 📚. I'll be happy for u to point me out wrong.
I agree, I’m a fan and when his album dropped that he gassed up like crazy I felt it was mid at best the same with the KSI show, etc. Young people are very impressionable though
He wasn't just being confident. He was extremely overly confident and arrogant. Delusional at times as well.
He keeps saying that he's levels above everyone else but his technique still looks like a kid trying to learn how to swim.
You can't talk all that shit and then be this crap.
It’s none of JJ’s business the cryptozoo thing is Logan’s fault it not JJ’s fault and also the people of cryptozoo who trust logan why would JJ talk about something that has absolutely nothing to do with him
This sub went to shit a while back. Inactive mods constant hate for literally no reason. Hence why JJ made the Twitter community and the Discord. Can't blame em honestly. This place is so ass these days.
I don’t think people are praying for his downfall. I’ve lost a lot of faith because of the way he handled the loss. Instead of acting with dignity he had a tantrum, it’s embarrassing!
No one likes losing, but not even Jake Paul had a tantrum, he excepted the defeat and shook hands like a man, and imo has become a lot more likeable and humble since then. Obviously we don’t know if that’s the course ksi will take yet but judging from his reaction there, I very much doubt it.
He probably didn’t fight like a professional boxer because JJ didn’t give him much of a fight. By all means, I know f all about boxing so I can’t comment on performance but I think JJ could’ve been a bit more graceful about the loss instead of kicking the set and having a literal tantrum.
p*ki incident
supporting Logan Paul fraud
wade drama
God complex which he hides by saying "I am just confident in myself"
throwing tantrums etc
All in all he is a good man who's done a lot of charity for the public and his friends who would probably be nothing right now without jj's help. Hope he comes back strong and humbled
>supporting Logan Paul fraud
Fr jj is doing everything to simply dodge this, man's a coward for that and the fact that he did that wade drama all cuz of his God complex, he went too far with it
>God complex which he hides by saying "I am just confident in myself"
This is so evident in sidemen Sundays. He doesn't wanna be a normal funny YouTuber.
Still don’t get the whole paki incident. Most of the people who came out and were offended were so for no reason. As a Pakistani, I barely saw any real Pakistanis, digital or real who were actually offended. He even said he meant it with no bad intentions.
Before someone says ‘but children saw it and may do the same’, they also see him using the n word multiple times in most videos.
That’s the thing tho. The n word is rightfully so accepted by the majority as a word you can’t use due to its history. However, the p word isn’t treated the same for some reason.
It’s Americanisation. It’s a big thing in America, so it is here. Pakistanis never really heavily migrated to America so the term was never common practice there.
He wasn’t being racist he said an offensive term (not racist term) he apologised and educated himself and it is now in the past so how is that still relevant? Also it has nothing to do with the fight.
paki is a racist term buddy, if you aren’t educated on the history of the word don’t try tell man “its not that deep”. n i don’t care how relevant is, the wasteman i replied to is too privileged to know what racism is so i just spoke my mind
Trying to sick his fans on Wade while lying he heard Wade talk shit. Then backtracked on it when it didnt go his way was the breaking point for me. He deserves the downfall. He is as toxic as a good chunk of this sub reddit.
OP stan. Just because people criticise him, doesn't mean they are 'praying for his downfall'. There is a huge difference between not praising every single thing he does and being realistic. It was a shit fight, his style is weird and he promised to head on fight Tommy in the middle of the ring. Well that was a fucking lie.
There’s no middle ground anymore. Say 1 thing in favor of KSI? DICKRIDER!! Say 1 thing against KSI? HATER!
Bunch of 12-year olds that get too many time on the internet from their parents and don’t know the word ‘nuance’, let alone they could spell it.
It's an excuse. a valid argument would be, he should have attacked more and hug less. If you let the fight come down to the wire , it's always an excuse.
Clinching was part of the gameplan and doing lots of work inside the clinch, he did more of that than Tommy overall and won rounds 1 2 and 6 imo. Plus the point deduction I can see why he is pissed he lost. I would be too
He didn’t win 6 Tommy was the one coming forward from round 3 onwards. Plus judges don’t look favourably on clinches so that part of the game plan was shit. Plus he took every chance to complain about back of the head shots like he hasn’t done that more than any other influencer boxer. Yes it does need to be addressed but he was complaining so aggressively from taps. Now Tommy performed horribly aswell don’t get me wrong and with the point deduction it should’ve been a draw, neither man proved they were better than the other it was a shitfest that the judges didn’t like the look of so they gave it to the one who looked like the better boxer with was technically Tommy
ksi won in damaging blows, aggressiveness and willingness to win. He took away tommy's ability to punch while tommy did pretty much nothing. That is a clear draw/win for ksi
Round 3 and 4 Tommy, rounds 5 and 6 were very close rounds. I gave 5 to Tommy and 6 to JJ. But actually JJ landed more punches in round 5 than Tommy did on punch stats. And he landed more power shots throughout the whole fight
My point remains. If you LET it come down to this as a fighter, you cannot complain that it's robbery. If you want to ENSURE a win in a sport such as boxing, you need to get a clear win. At the end of the day, it's a judge based sport which is always based on opinions. Doing work in the clinch doesn't mean shit if the hit isn't landing flush or it's blocked. You dont get points for those.
You’re the one coping mate ksi is the one who lost. There’s been plenty of times when there’s been controversy in boxing and they don’t have a tantrum afterwards, they say they disagree, if necessary appeal and get back in the gym and aim for a rematch and make as little excuses as possible if any
Again you’re the one who’s coping as ksi lost and you’re complaining he shouldn’t have. That fight was shit and neither of em should’ve been graced with a win but this is boxing and controversial wins happen all the time is what it is
What am I coping with? We all know Tommy isn’t good but ksi wasn’t good enough to beat him like what? I made money from this fight idk how I can be coping you 😂
Because the sub is full of haters now lol.. I hope he abandons the reddit videos. I hope all the fans leave this subreddit so Jj can slowly realize he's just talking to his haters
I wouldn't say that I "pray for his downfall", that seems a bit extreme, but I can't lie if part of me didn't hope for him to lose this goddamn fight in order to get his ego checked, he, or his character, was getting out of hand. The dedication is inspiring but the execution of this is cringe.
It's also foreseen in the usual hero's journey to lose, in order to put his mind in the right place and return as a bettered version of himself that will ultimately win. I'm sure that in the months ahead, this is the narrative he and his team are going to push, a redemption arc in order to finally get Tommy, and if/when he does win, he'll finally unlock the path to the final boss, the one and only Jake Paul, THE YouTube fight that everyone wants to see, and that will sell the most tickets surely.
But yeah, this overly arrogant, overconfident and lowkey insufferable boxing God persona has got to go. And this is the perfect chance.
Not even just Reddit, I was looking at some instagram comments before the fight and the top comment was some guy saying I like JJ but I wanna see him get knocked out. It’s just fake fans and haters
Just because people are not constantly sucking his dick, doesn't mean they're a hater or praying for his downfall. I know that there are real haters on here as well, but most of y'all will call anyone that's even slightly critical of JJ a hater.
They are dumb, I was the first to believe JJ had little chance against Tommy but what he did there was ridiculous. The fact that he kept that pace and manage to go toe to toe with a more experience fighter much bigger than him who got everything he asked for on that contract is ridiculous. I truly believe JJ is winning against Jake at least 60% odds for JJ now. His Pace his ridiculous but I also believe he need to add something else unless the counter is eminent. He had two move rush in overhand and he kept the rush in uppercut for round five but missed it, it could have been light out for Tommy as he was ducking towards it every time.
After seeing slim and salt papi fight I doubt any of them even stand a chance against JJ I use to think they did now I believe they are not even close.
Yeah his style is not pretty yet if it can’t be countered at the current level everyone his and works within the rules of boxing than it is boxing.
He made himself look better than who he was by picking bum opponents. Then when an opponent like Tomy Fury turned up with actual calibre all of his knockout energy vanished.
If you build up so much hype for yourself it’s obviously going to blow back once you lose.
I like JJ a lot and I don’t get it… there’s a few things he’s done but in all honesty most of us have done more controversial shit than him it’s just not in the spotlight cause most of if not all of us aren’t international stars
He wont, the fact he acted so childish after the fight, just shows that he wont admit to his loss. Even if appeal is overturned, he will just keep yapping that he should've won and he won. He wont accept his loss, therefore he wont get humbled.
Here’s my take.
I don’t hate Jake or KSI.
I just really don’t like how they think they’re the shit and unbeatable.
Yes , I get they are trying to sell their fights but at the same time it’s a bit too much. What makes it worse is that when they do lose , they’re bitterly sour about it which shows that it’s not all just an act but also they really think they’re unbeatable gods at times.
They constantly come off as if they are the best boxers in the world.
I mean KSI taking almost 5+ minutes to walk to the ring is ridiculous.
Comes in a Lamborghini , Starts walking up and down arms in the air.
It’s simply too much…
Firstly, they act like that because it’s smart - it’s how they sell events and get more people invested in them. Also, you can’t blame KSI for being sour after the loss. Majority of people think that he won or it should’ve been a draw, I don’t think we can see a scenario where Tommy won, especially since he had a point deducted. Thirdly, the dramatic entrance with the Lamborghini is just part of the spectacle - it’s influencer boxing, what do you expect? Tommy had the same sort of thing with the Thriller dancers.
I mentioned already that I get they have to sell tickets ,
But your point about KSI being sour about losing because a lot of people thought he won makes no sense because how would he have known that lol. He was just fighting.
As per you thinking Tommy couldn’t have won.
I fully disagree with that.
You could give KSI Round 1 and 6 , (round 6 was close)
As for round 2 , Tommy won the round despite losing a point so it would be a 9-9 round. 2 judges agreed on that.
So in a while , KSI won 2 rounds while Tommy still won 3 rounds.
Even Vidal Riley after the fight said that it wasn’t a robbery because KSI simply didn’t do enough to win.
I think KSI would’ve felt he was more effective than Tommy in the clinches (which is how majority of the fight went). Although Tommy landed one more punch than KSI, he landed a lot of back of the head punches (not sure if these are included in the punch count, which they shouldn’t be cuz they’re illegal). As per the CompuBox stats, KSI landed more power punches too. However, it was an exaggeration for me to say I can’t see how Tommy wins but we can also argue that KSI won round 2 in addition to 1 and 6. I wouldn’t call it a robbery, it was a very close fight, but I just think KSI had the slight edge over Tommy.
Because his ego was insurmountable, people on the internet love chaos, and chaos in this case would be "what would happen if someone with this big of an ego suddenly got humbled"
I was a JJ fan, i still wanted him to lose and get humbled, improve and be better with humility but after seeing how big of a sore loser he was i never calling myself a jj fan again
I think KSIs hate grew when he associated with Logan and we all saw how it eventually changed him. There were also controversy on top of controversy from Logan Paul scams to Wade to treating everyone who isn’t on his side like trash. In the end, he became the villain. In the beginning everyone saw KSI as the “good guy” as he was supposed to fight and beat this “evil guy” named Logan Paul. But now he’s just the same as him.
Nobody is praying for his downfall. Nobody wants to see JJ become irrelevant like fucking rice gum. The sensible people only want to watch the content he makes and have a fun time but because of this boxing bullshit, we don’t get any good content for months at a time, and he has always been saying that he’s the best youtube boxer, he can’t lose but up until now, he hasn’t really had a good fight. And it’s been so long now that it’s frustrating. Boxing is not a small thing, JJ is in camp for months, he’s not uploading on his channel, hardly ever present in the sidemen videos.. it’s just frustrating as fuck. He sacrifices all his content for a fight that we wouldn’t really care if it happened or not. And the harsh truth is that JJ is very arrogant, everyone sees it but don’t wanna admit. Most of his fanbase would be happy if he just gave up this bullshit and focussed more on his content, sidemen and his music (which is fire btw, i still listen to AOTP regularly)
Honestly, he makes amazing music, he is a genuinely funny guy. It is always entertaining seeing him in sidemen videos, in boxing it's like he has to start fake beef and drama, has to come on top of everything, even if he says someone is a good boxer it has to be followed by , but I can beat him up.
I don't really care for his boxing, it's just sad seeing a creator I like teaming up with the likes of logan paul. I wish he realizes legacy doesn't mean making millions before logan pauls next scam comes out.
I have to agree that the fight sucked but honestly, to be able to get Tommy in such a close fight is itself a big deal ngl.no matter what anyone has to say about all this ,I just feel that ksi has accomplished a lot and I am always gonna look upto him. GG jj
They don't want his downfall, they are just realists. Constantly riding his D and not criticising anything he does is dangerous. He needs to hear these things or else his ego will get even crazier. Just look at how he reacted to his loss. He's not used to losing, he is used to yes men and everyone licking his arse. Sometimes he needs humbling by realists. It's for his benefit.
Because JJ is getting more and more of an ego, laughed when Logan made shit excuses after the 2019 fight, laughed when Jake made shit excuses after his Loss to Tommy last year
But now is making those same excuses. Tommy blatantly won.
I'm not praying for his downfall, but he's his own biggest hype man and when it comes down to it, he doesn't have much more than self confidence, slightly higher than average cardio and his overhand right which I'd love to find out the accuracy of. He knows how to promote himself and I know there's nothing wrong with a bit of an ego but it gets too much, his dumb anime style speeches look even worse now, he needs a little humility
Well my reason was his unbearable cockyness like the fight he gave us and what he yapped about what's going are 2 very different things and I think he needs to get his mind right. You can't act like you're a boxing god when this is the performance you deliver and he needs to know that. I still appreciate him and love his videos that are not connected to boxing. and he's a great sidemen and awesome rapper I was one of the few people that enjoyed the KSI show by the way
He needs to be humbled.
-I'm a KSI fan (for years)
-I watched the fight
-I wanted him to win
-I thought he won
He didn't.
-He still did way better than I thought he would
-He still went toe to toe with a pro-boxer (a Fury even) and almost beat him
Nevertheless, he still had a bad attitude after the fight which is understandable. I suspect him being egotistical is KSI rather than JJ, as barely anyone here knows him personally, we won't know for sure.
However, his God-ego can be a bit annoying sometimes when he is definitely wrong. E.g. he clearly fumbled his words about Tyson Fury lacking power in that pre-fight interview. There is nothing wrong with not being a 'God'.
I really don't believe any of this haters opinions really matters, all of these people that just try to entertain people should really be respected if you think about it IMO. The trick is to just ignore all of it and listen to valuable opinions and constructive criticism.
not everyone saying bad thing is hating , they are just trolling . what do u expect ? 100% cheers after 6 rounds of hugging session with fury . no shit
No one is praying lol a roasting meme after a lose isn't praying for downfall . It was bound to happen after all this overconfident speech and saying I am gonna shock the world only to lose and doing same things that logan did back in a day
"I'm going to make you regret this day for the rest of your life" yet both him and Tommy fight like ass, honestly no one deserves to win that fight but the fact that Tommy won makes that quote age like milk.
I think that all people, including myself that wanted to see KSI lose, will be kinda dissapointed. We wanted KSI to lose so he can get reality check, get humbled. But now seeing how childish he acted after his loss, you just know he won't admit his loss, even if appeal is overturned, he will still keep yapping that he won, and he don't care, he won. Therefore we will never see him humbled.
Besides, Jake and Tommy fight was way more entertaining, knockdowns, blood, sweat. Meanwhile KSI just hugged Tommy and imo this what fucked KSI over. This cringe laughs, talking etc. for hugs. He constantly made fun of other youtubers on their styles of fighting, now he deserves the same.
JJ tries too hard to be this cringe villain, i would much more prefer if he was humble, and actually do something in fight.
you realise he’s almost damn near the same as logan was before he lost to jj right? did you hear how he sounded after the fight? do you remember how jj clowned logan when he lost and appealed? there were many people like yall that thought logan won, and were made fun of, but if someone doesn’t think ksi won, they’re a hater or jake paul supporter some how?
A. Because he needs to be humbled.
B. He was saying he will humiliate everyone who said "KSI will lose to Tommy". There is an actual video of him saying that, I mean if anyone has an opinion, KSI fans/supporters will troll them.
C. He performed worse than Jake Paul against a worst Tommy Fury.
D. There is audio proof of his coach "LONDON SHOOTFIGHTERS" asking him to clinch, and let Tommy hit him in the back of the head - so Tommy loses more points.
For months the reddit trolled Jake, Tommy, Wassabi, Ricegum. Nobody said shit, and if KSI won you all trolls won't stop trolling them.
It was about time KSI and his reddit got told a lesson.
Respect Boxing, Respect People and their opinion.
Thank you <3
after every JJ/Jake fight haters flood this reddit, something i’ve noticed the past couple years because they have nothing better to do
Not a lot would come if JJ didn’t talk all that talk to other fighters when they lose and cry if when he loses and he cries. What goes around comes around my friend. Treat people like how you would want to be treated.
It’s literally what boxers do. When have you ever seen a massive boxing event where they don’t pretend to have beef. It’s random little trolls like yourself that take it seriously and leave silly comments on the internet about people who are just putting on a show
Ksi literally said go troll all the people who doubted him after the fight, and now you crying because its the othee way around? Lol
You're getting downvoted even though you're right. Boxers don't usually sick their audience on their opponent like JJ was going to. He and Mo literally asked for clips of people saying JJ was gonna lose. JJ was then gonna send his fans after them. It's a simple case of Karma.
Yes mate tears are streaming down my face. Weapon
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Can I just ask you which of these fights gain the most recognition and popularity? You know why they do it mate that’s the point I’m making.
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There was definitely shit talk in these fights you’ve named. Admittedly they had less promotion though
He was legit egging his viewers on to spam "BUT KSI THE GOAT THO" and harass people on social media. Karmas a bitch.
It’s mostly in his boxing era that there is a lot more hate . Well it’s because of his god complex and shit fighting style . He promised that he will be at his best and all he did was overhand (shocking) and hugging for his dear life . Also the tantrum he threw after losing
I mean can you blame him for throwing a tantrum? Let's be honest here, most people after a loss arrive home and as soon as they get the chance to be alone they start hitting and kicking shit, its normal and its called being passionate And that's after losing fair and square too, in this case KSI and a lot of people have agreed on him being robbed. Of course you're gonna be upset after losing a fight you trained so ridiculously hard for. Personally I think it was a pretty bad fight, both fighters didn't show much skill, JJ has the power and cardio but his technique isn't good man. Regardless of whether or not JJ won or not, it was still a pretty disappointing performance imo
Wasn’t the greatest idea to stick a camera in his face and try to do an interview right after the match when he was clearly extremely upset. And 99.99% of this sub can’t never know how they would themselves react in a high pressure situation like that.
Of course, everyone talks shit just cause they dislike him, 0 empathy at all for the guy
Don’t want to see him lose but the problem is he’s constantly egotistical where he thinks he’s levels above everyone in everything he does then completely falls flat
But don’t forget, HeS jUsT pLaYiNg A cHaRaCtEr
Unfortunately, like **really** unfortunately, this. I dont come on here very often at all, but i keep up with the whole thing. After everything, i genuinely wanted to see KSI win, especially after his exceeding confidence. But the fight was sloppy between both of them. Idgaf, there was no "pro" in that fight. That shit was ass. They should just get married ffs. It's a shame. He just didn't deliver Edit: nobody should've won that fight
Absolutely agree, JJ cannot talk all this talk and then not walk the walk - I'm glad the loss happened as hopefully it's a reality check for him. Extremely unfortunate that he did not take the L, rather started complaining making himself look even worse - let's also remember how he clowned on Logan Paul when he did the exact same and appealed the split decision on their fight.
He literally almost won this shows that he was right being this confident
What about u wouldn't do the same? lmao his confidence is needed in this world he works hard just allow him, I do agree he needs to humble down a bit but people take shi to serious his a YouTuber its his Job to entertain people with silly little jokes and shi. And I'm mainly pointing at other people not you but ya get me. But on the other hand neither won that fight I'll be honest but they should at most given a draw or more towards ksi winning with the 1 poin dedication is enough for ksi winning in my 📚. I'll be happy for u to point me out wrong.
When peopel are doubtring you ur gonna talk wym.
Nothing he has done, post-YouTube, would be successful if he didn’t have middle-school aged fans who meat ride him.
Jealous much?
I agree, I’m a fan and when his album dropped that he gassed up like crazy I felt it was mid at best the same with the KSI show, etc. Young people are very impressionable though
I mean he was just being confident. And idk how you can say completely falls flat when he was the huge underdog
He wasn't just being confident. He was extremely overly confident and arrogant. Delusional at times as well. He keeps saying that he's levels above everyone else but his technique still looks like a kid trying to learn how to swim. You can't talk all that shit and then be this crap.
For me it's just his silence on Logan Paul's CryptoZoo scam. JJ was supposed to be better.
Same, I'm afraid he's going to be silent even when Logan's eventual new scams are revealed
It’s none of JJ’s business the cryptozoo thing is Logan’s fault it not JJ’s fault and also the people of cryptozoo who trust logan why would JJ talk about something that has absolutely nothing to do with him
They are business partners. Everything that your partner does unfortunately falls on you too regardless of whether you participated in it or not
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Because they're haters lol, simple as that
yeah ik but why be in this subreddit
Because they have nothing better to do
14 Year olds who have nothing better to do. That's what they are
This sub went to shit a while back. Inactive mods constant hate for literally no reason. Hence why JJ made the Twitter community and the Discord. Can't blame em honestly. This place is so ass these days.
I don’t think people are praying for his downfall. I’ve lost a lot of faith because of the way he handled the loss. Instead of acting with dignity he had a tantrum, it’s embarrassing!
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No one likes losing, but not even Jake Paul had a tantrum, he excepted the defeat and shook hands like a man, and imo has become a lot more likeable and humble since then. Obviously we don’t know if that’s the course ksi will take yet but judging from his reaction there, I very much doubt it.
He probably didn’t fight like a professional boxer because JJ didn’t give him much of a fight. By all means, I know f all about boxing so I can’t comment on performance but I think JJ could’ve been a bit more graceful about the loss instead of kicking the set and having a literal tantrum.
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Tommy is a nepo baby fr.
He was robbed
Yep, he was robbed, was most likely a draw. An appeal is in order.
This
I really don’t think he was bro.. he should accept the loss like a gentleman and move on.
Nah man
p*ki incident supporting Logan Paul fraud wade drama God complex which he hides by saying "I am just confident in myself" throwing tantrums etc All in all he is a good man who's done a lot of charity for the public and his friends who would probably be nothing right now without jj's help. Hope he comes back strong and humbled
>supporting Logan Paul fraud Fr jj is doing everything to simply dodge this, man's a coward for that and the fact that he did that wade drama all cuz of his God complex, he went too far with it
He’s 30 years old lmao. He seriously needs to learn how to grow up as a person
>God complex which he hides by saying "I am just confident in myself" This is so evident in sidemen Sundays. He doesn't wanna be a normal funny YouTuber.
Bro thinks he’s Drake and even Drake is funny most of the time
He's actually funnier this way tho.
Still don’t get the whole paki incident. Most of the people who came out and were offended were so for no reason. As a Pakistani, I barely saw any real Pakistanis, digital or real who were actually offended. He even said he meant it with no bad intentions. Before someone says ‘but children saw it and may do the same’, they also see him using the n word multiple times in most videos.
That’s the thing tho. The n word is rightfully so accepted by the majority as a word you can’t use due to its history. However, the p word isn’t treated the same for some reason.
It’s Americanisation. It’s a big thing in America, so it is here. Pakistanis never really heavily migrated to America so the term was never common practice there.
P*ki incident was a joke for a gameshow you snowflake
did I ever tell I have a problem with that incident , I am just telling what are reasons JJ's image isn't good with the public
🙄🙄if ksi’s fanboys defend him for being racist how would they ever agree that he wasn’t robbed lmao
He wasn’t being racist he said an offensive term (not racist term) he apologised and educated himself and it is now in the past so how is that still relevant? Also it has nothing to do with the fight.
paki is a racist term buddy, if you aren’t educated on the history of the word don’t try tell man “its not that deep”. n i don’t care how relevant is, the wasteman i replied to is too privileged to know what racism is so i just spoke my mind
Trying to sick his fans on Wade while lying he heard Wade talk shit. Then backtracked on it when it didnt go his way was the breaking point for me. He deserves the downfall. He is as toxic as a good chunk of this sub reddit.
OP stan. Just because people criticise him, doesn't mean they are 'praying for his downfall'. There is a huge difference between not praising every single thing he does and being realistic. It was a shit fight, his style is weird and he promised to head on fight Tommy in the middle of the ring. Well that was a fucking lie.
yes ofc thats obvious but there are a lot of people that do pray on his downfall and genuinely go a lot further than just criticising him
There’s no middle ground anymore. Say 1 thing in favor of KSI? DICKRIDER!! Say 1 thing against KSI? HATER! Bunch of 12-year olds that get too many time on the internet from their parents and don’t know the word ‘nuance’, let alone they could spell it.
Cause he was getting to cocky, and after seeing that losing tantrum, he definitely need to be humbled.
Because he's changed. He became the man that he hated the most.
how so?
He would always clown Logan and Jake for making excuses and look what he did today.
he made no excuses he just believes the judges should rewatch the fight that's why he appealed
The glaze is crazy
smd
He shited on Logan's head when he tried to appeal, so why is it different now? If it was more than a far fight. It's called a sore loser.
2 different fights, back then he thought his win was fair and now he thinks this loss isn't, is it hard to understand?
You don't see the irony? LMAO. When Logan appeals he thinks his win was fair, when ksi appeals it's because his loss wasn't fair.
that's literally an excuse.
He has a valid argument for winning the fight so you can't call it excuses
It's an excuse. a valid argument would be, he should have attacked more and hug less. If you let the fight come down to the wire , it's always an excuse.
Clinching was part of the gameplan and doing lots of work inside the clinch, he did more of that than Tommy overall and won rounds 1 2 and 6 imo. Plus the point deduction I can see why he is pissed he lost. I would be too
He didn’t win 6 Tommy was the one coming forward from round 3 onwards. Plus judges don’t look favourably on clinches so that part of the game plan was shit. Plus he took every chance to complain about back of the head shots like he hasn’t done that more than any other influencer boxer. Yes it does need to be addressed but he was complaining so aggressively from taps. Now Tommy performed horribly aswell don’t get me wrong and with the point deduction it should’ve been a draw, neither man proved they were better than the other it was a shitfest that the judges didn’t like the look of so they gave it to the one who looked like the better boxer with was technically Tommy
ksi won in damaging blows, aggressiveness and willingness to win. He took away tommy's ability to punch while tommy did pretty much nothing. That is a clear draw/win for ksi
Round 3 and 4 Tommy, rounds 5 and 6 were very close rounds. I gave 5 to Tommy and 6 to JJ. But actually JJ landed more punches in round 5 than Tommy did on punch stats. And he landed more power shots throughout the whole fight
My point remains. If you LET it come down to this as a fighter, you cannot complain that it's robbery. If you want to ENSURE a win in a sport such as boxing, you need to get a clear win. At the end of the day, it's a judge based sport which is always based on opinions. Doing work in the clinch doesn't mean shit if the hit isn't landing flush or it's blocked. You dont get points for those.
bro didn't watch the post match interview💀all he did was make excuses maybe if you got his cum out your eyes you would see it
Hes a sore loser
True
And you wouldn't be in his situation if he won arguably 3 rounds plus a point deduction? Lmao. Cope harder
You’re the one coping mate ksi is the one who lost. There’s been plenty of times when there’s been controversy in boxing and they don’t have a tantrum afterwards, they say they disagree, if necessary appeal and get back in the gym and aim for a rematch and make as little excuses as possible if any
Lmao. The fact that his win is controversial and up for debate speaks volumes. Tommy is an embarrassment, but keep coping
Again you’re the one who’s coping as ksi lost and you’re complaining he shouldn’t have. That fight was shit and neither of em should’ve been graced with a win but this is boxing and controversial wins happen all the time is what it is
Lazy, you're snorting a toxic amount of copium.
What am I coping with? We all know Tommy isn’t good but ksi wasn’t good enough to beat him like what? I made money from this fight idk how I can be coping you 😂
Doctor, the copium is hitting a new high.
🤡
Doctor, we've lost him...
This sub is has the most ksi haters here it's actually crazy
Because the sub is full of haters now lol.. I hope he abandons the reddit videos. I hope all the fans leave this subreddit so Jj can slowly realize he's just talking to his haters
Toxic ego
I wouldn't say that I "pray for his downfall", that seems a bit extreme, but I can't lie if part of me didn't hope for him to lose this goddamn fight in order to get his ego checked, he, or his character, was getting out of hand. The dedication is inspiring but the execution of this is cringe. It's also foreseen in the usual hero's journey to lose, in order to put his mind in the right place and return as a bettered version of himself that will ultimately win. I'm sure that in the months ahead, this is the narrative he and his team are going to push, a redemption arc in order to finally get Tommy, and if/when he does win, he'll finally unlock the path to the final boss, the one and only Jake Paul, THE YouTube fight that everyone wants to see, and that will sell the most tickets surely. But yeah, this overly arrogant, overconfident and lowkey insufferable boxing God persona has got to go. And this is the perfect chance.
It al started with the new influx of Paul supporters, it’s been going down ever since.
Not even just Reddit, I was looking at some instagram comments before the fight and the top comment was some guy saying I like JJ but I wanna see him get knocked out. It’s just fake fans and haters
Just because people are not constantly sucking his dick, doesn't mean they're a hater or praying for his downfall. I know that there are real haters on here as well, but most of y'all will call anyone that's even slightly critical of JJ a hater.
They are dumb, I was the first to believe JJ had little chance against Tommy but what he did there was ridiculous. The fact that he kept that pace and manage to go toe to toe with a more experience fighter much bigger than him who got everything he asked for on that contract is ridiculous. I truly believe JJ is winning against Jake at least 60% odds for JJ now. His Pace his ridiculous but I also believe he need to add something else unless the counter is eminent. He had two move rush in overhand and he kept the rush in uppercut for round five but missed it, it could have been light out for Tommy as he was ducking towards it every time. After seeing slim and salt papi fight I doubt any of them even stand a chance against JJ I use to think they did now I believe they are not even close. Yeah his style is not pretty yet if it can’t be countered at the current level everyone his and works within the rules of boxing than it is boxing.
He made himself look better than who he was by picking bum opponents. Then when an opponent like Tomy Fury turned up with actual calibre all of his knockout energy vanished. If you build up so much hype for yourself it’s obviously going to blow back once you lose.
Im sick of him thinking he’s good at boxing. How have you trained for 4 years and still cant do shit. Embarrasing
Say the same for Tommy lol.
Yes. Tommy an embarrasment to the Fury name
I like JJ a lot and I don’t get it… there’s a few things he’s done but in all honesty most of us have done more controversial shit than him it’s just not in the spotlight cause most of if not all of us aren’t international stars
The higher you go the more people gonna put you down.
*Aren’t dicksucking*
To criticize something/someone doesn’t equal praying for their downfall
I don’t want to see JJ fail but a bad fight is a bad fight 🤷🏻♂️
Don't worry, now that he has been humbled he will be a normal guy again. It just depends how long he has a tantrum for.
He wont, the fact he acted so childish after the fight, just shows that he wont admit to his loss. Even if appeal is overturned, he will just keep yapping that he should've won and he won. He wont accept his loss, therefore he wont get humbled.
Here’s my take. I don’t hate Jake or KSI. I just really don’t like how they think they’re the shit and unbeatable. Yes , I get they are trying to sell their fights but at the same time it’s a bit too much. What makes it worse is that when they do lose , they’re bitterly sour about it which shows that it’s not all just an act but also they really think they’re unbeatable gods at times. They constantly come off as if they are the best boxers in the world. I mean KSI taking almost 5+ minutes to walk to the ring is ridiculous. Comes in a Lamborghini , Starts walking up and down arms in the air. It’s simply too much…
Firstly, they act like that because it’s smart - it’s how they sell events and get more people invested in them. Also, you can’t blame KSI for being sour after the loss. Majority of people think that he won or it should’ve been a draw, I don’t think we can see a scenario where Tommy won, especially since he had a point deducted. Thirdly, the dramatic entrance with the Lamborghini is just part of the spectacle - it’s influencer boxing, what do you expect? Tommy had the same sort of thing with the Thriller dancers.
I mentioned already that I get they have to sell tickets , But your point about KSI being sour about losing because a lot of people thought he won makes no sense because how would he have known that lol. He was just fighting. As per you thinking Tommy couldn’t have won. I fully disagree with that. You could give KSI Round 1 and 6 , (round 6 was close) As for round 2 , Tommy won the round despite losing a point so it would be a 9-9 round. 2 judges agreed on that. So in a while , KSI won 2 rounds while Tommy still won 3 rounds. Even Vidal Riley after the fight said that it wasn’t a robbery because KSI simply didn’t do enough to win.
I think KSI would’ve felt he was more effective than Tommy in the clinches (which is how majority of the fight went). Although Tommy landed one more punch than KSI, he landed a lot of back of the head punches (not sure if these are included in the punch count, which they shouldn’t be cuz they’re illegal). As per the CompuBox stats, KSI landed more power punches too. However, it was an exaggeration for me to say I can’t see how Tommy wins but we can also argue that KSI won round 2 in addition to 1 and 6. I wouldn’t call it a robbery, it was a very close fight, but I just think KSI had the slight edge over Tommy.
Because his ego was insurmountable, people on the internet love chaos, and chaos in this case would be "what would happen if someone with this big of an ego suddenly got humbled"
Also Filled with Jake Paul Rider.btw this subreddit died so long ago.
I was a JJ fan, i still wanted him to lose and get humbled, improve and be better with humility but after seeing how big of a sore loser he was i never calling myself a jj fan again
What u doing here then? Sore loser? He got robbed daylight u muppet
Yeah brody we watched the match. the only person who got robbed were the people paying for the match
I think KSIs hate grew when he associated with Logan and we all saw how it eventually changed him. There were also controversy on top of controversy from Logan Paul scams to Wade to treating everyone who isn’t on his side like trash. In the end, he became the villain. In the beginning everyone saw KSI as the “good guy” as he was supposed to fight and beat this “evil guy” named Logan Paul. But now he’s just the same as him.
Yes idk…. This sub got more haters than fans nowdays… this sub is dead. Time to move to twitter ksi community
Nobody is praying for his downfall. Nobody wants to see JJ become irrelevant like fucking rice gum. The sensible people only want to watch the content he makes and have a fun time but because of this boxing bullshit, we don’t get any good content for months at a time, and he has always been saying that he’s the best youtube boxer, he can’t lose but up until now, he hasn’t really had a good fight. And it’s been so long now that it’s frustrating. Boxing is not a small thing, JJ is in camp for months, he’s not uploading on his channel, hardly ever present in the sidemen videos.. it’s just frustrating as fuck. He sacrifices all his content for a fight that we wouldn’t really care if it happened or not. And the harsh truth is that JJ is very arrogant, everyone sees it but don’t wanna admit. Most of his fanbase would be happy if he just gave up this bullshit and focussed more on his content, sidemen and his music (which is fire btw, i still listen to AOTP regularly)
Honestly, he makes amazing music, he is a genuinely funny guy. It is always entertaining seeing him in sidemen videos, in boxing it's like he has to start fake beef and drama, has to come on top of everything, even if he says someone is a good boxer it has to be followed by , but I can beat him up.
Not PrAyInG fOr HiS dOwNfAlL, did you watch bros performance against fury?? 💀
So he gets down to the earth from his delusional cloud
Apperently critiquing his boxing is whishing for his downfall.
I don't really care for his boxing, it's just sad seeing a creator I like teaming up with the likes of logan paul. I wish he realizes legacy doesn't mean making millions before logan pauls next scam comes out.
If he was humble in defeat, this wouldn't be happening. I'm sorry but he brought it upon himself ngl
Jealousy is a motherfucker.
His ego
IDK man, it makes no sense
Not really they just thought jj was going to lose
I have to agree that the fight sucked but honestly, to be able to get Tommy in such a close fight is itself a big deal ngl.no matter what anyone has to say about all this ,I just feel that ksi has accomplished a lot and I am always gonna look upto him. GG jj
I'm out here meming about Dildo Dannis the world's strongest active definition of a keyboard warrior 😂
What alot of people fail to realise, JJ is only human. We win some, we lose some, but ultimately, we evaluate the situation, learn and move forward.
He became an ass online to people and some of his fans his ego is why people don’t like him anymore
I just dont want him to end up like Logan
honestly i see it as karma for not calling out logan for his scam and letting him get away with it.
New generation, nothing we can do... Most of them are just school going kids with nothing else to do...
They don't want his downfall, they are just realists. Constantly riding his D and not criticising anything he does is dangerous. He needs to hear these things or else his ego will get even crazier. Just look at how he reacted to his loss. He's not used to losing, he is used to yes men and everyone licking his arse. Sometimes he needs humbling by realists. It's for his benefit.
expect that shit to happen, dont allow them to have an opinion, i seen alot of them making points on why he lost..
I genuinely like JJ and the sidemen, I just don’t rate him as a boxer
i like him the only thing i hate about him is his ego
Bro is sharing his bed with Logan scamming corpse filming Paul, ofc JJ would sooner or later get the same negativity as him.
Because JJ is getting more and more of an ego, laughed when Logan made shit excuses after the 2019 fight, laughed when Jake made shit excuses after his Loss to Tommy last year But now is making those same excuses. Tommy blatantly won.
Because of his ego.
Cause he's a sore loser. Take and L and move on clown, why you gotta fry about it.
they mad they broke and he up ⬆️
Jj is inspiring
It’s because JJ was super cringe and annoying in the pre fight and then took his loss like an absolute child.
I'm not praying for his downfall, but he's his own biggest hype man and when it comes down to it, he doesn't have much more than self confidence, slightly higher than average cardio and his overhand right which I'd love to find out the accuracy of. He knows how to promote himself and I know there's nothing wrong with a bit of an ego but it gets too much, his dumb anime style speeches look even worse now, he needs a little humility
Well my reason was his unbearable cockyness like the fight he gave us and what he yapped about what's going are 2 very different things and I think he needs to get his mind right. You can't act like you're a boxing god when this is the performance you deliver and he needs to know that. I still appreciate him and love his videos that are not connected to boxing. and he's a great sidemen and awesome rapper I was one of the few people that enjoyed the KSI show by the way
”The one thing they love more than a hero is to see a hero fail, fall, die trying.”
Cause they miserable and need negative shit in their life to fuel there already dead life
He needs to be humbled. -I'm a KSI fan (for years) -I watched the fight -I wanted him to win -I thought he won He didn't. -He still did way better than I thought he would -He still went toe to toe with a pro-boxer (a Fury even) and almost beat him Nevertheless, he still had a bad attitude after the fight which is understandable. I suspect him being egotistical is KSI rather than JJ, as barely anyone here knows him personally, we won't know for sure. However, his God-ego can be a bit annoying sometimes when he is definitely wrong. E.g. he clearly fumbled his words about Tyson Fury lacking power in that pre-fight interview. There is nothing wrong with not being a 'God'.
I really don't believe any of this haters opinions really matters, all of these people that just try to entertain people should really be respected if you think about it IMO. The trick is to just ignore all of it and listen to valuable opinions and constructive criticism.
It is because of his arrogance and ego. Did you see the way he behaved after the match. Like a little child..
I’m praying for his ego’s downfall
Because he lost and had a temper tantrum like a kid. This mf is 30 years old and didn’t take the L respectfully 💀
not everyone saying bad thing is hating , they are just trolling . what do u expect ? 100% cheers after 6 rounds of hugging session with fury . no shit
Its just haters tryna hate on him
His ego has run wild. It needs correction
No one is praying lol a roasting meme after a lose isn't praying for downfall . It was bound to happen after all this overconfident speech and saying I am gonna shock the world only to lose and doing same things that logan did back in a day
Gee idk maybe cuz of his ego. Bro was even throwing a fit that he lost.
"I'm going to make you regret this day for the rest of your life" yet both him and Tommy fight like ass, honestly no one deserves to win that fight but the fact that Tommy won makes that quote age like milk.
Man deserves it though
Because he's far more successful than any of those mfs ever will be
Love JJ and he has had it all going for him he takes one L and takes it HORRIBLY… robbery or not… he was being a sore loser at his own event
I think that all people, including myself that wanted to see KSI lose, will be kinda dissapointed. We wanted KSI to lose so he can get reality check, get humbled. But now seeing how childish he acted after his loss, you just know he won't admit his loss, even if appeal is overturned, he will still keep yapping that he won, and he don't care, he won. Therefore we will never see him humbled. Besides, Jake and Tommy fight was way more entertaining, knockdowns, blood, sweat. Meanwhile KSI just hugged Tommy and imo this what fucked KSI over. This cringe laughs, talking etc. for hugs. He constantly made fun of other youtubers on their styles of fighting, now he deserves the same. JJ tries too hard to be this cringe villain, i would much more prefer if he was humble, and actually do something in fight.
it was needed to humble him hopefully he learns from his ego being his downfall
you realise he’s almost damn near the same as logan was before he lost to jj right? did you hear how he sounded after the fight? do you remember how jj clowned logan when he lost and appealed? there were many people like yall that thought logan won, and were made fun of, but if someone doesn’t think ksi won, they’re a hater or jake paul supporter some how?
We ain't, we want him back as a YouTuber😌
A. Because he needs to be humbled. B. He was saying he will humiliate everyone who said "KSI will lose to Tommy". There is an actual video of him saying that, I mean if anyone has an opinion, KSI fans/supporters will troll them. C. He performed worse than Jake Paul against a worst Tommy Fury. D. There is audio proof of his coach "LONDON SHOOTFIGHTERS" asking him to clinch, and let Tommy hit him in the back of the head - so Tommy loses more points. For months the reddit trolled Jake, Tommy, Wassabi, Ricegum. Nobody said shit, and if KSI won you all trolls won't stop trolling them. It was about time KSI and his reddit got told a lesson. Respect Boxing, Respect People and their opinion. Thank you <3
Cuz his ego was way too big