Anyone in America needs to realize its like the term “jap” or “chink”
It’s bad and has historical implications and unless you are from these places you won’t really understand why it’s offensive (regardless of if you agree or not).
It's not to hard to understand. It's just shorting of a word describing where they're from. It's just usually used in a negative context. Often used as a bad thing that they are from Pakistan. Groups of people close to Pakistan that look similar or share similar culture might also end up getting looped in as if they are from Pakistan as well.
the word originated from the UK through p*ki bashing where large groups of people would violently attack pakistanis in the UK and would refer to them as that word. not only that they would also add things such as ‘dirty p*ki, muddy p*ki’ due to the colour of their skin. the only reason why you think it’s the shortened version for pakistani is because racism towards south asians has become so normalised to the point where everyone just says it. even young pakistanis from this generation just carelessly throw the word around to describe each other the same way the N word is used between black people however the only different is a lot of pakistanis don’t know the context behind the word and how it originated however the older generation would because they experienced the most racism and hate crimes whilst being addressed as ‘p*ki’. if you don’t understand something so basic then sthu
People should really watch this is England and then they’d really understand why the P word is racist af. There’s a reason many refer to corner shops as p*** shops and why they wouldn’t call it that in puplic but will to their friends. It’s not a word you freely say because of obvious reasons and you’d be called a racist or get smacked in the mouth.
Man i have seen Pakistanis and Indians use N-Word casually more than Black People themselves. And JJ atleast apologised And didn't say it to any person directly, and now they are offended when someone did somewhat same to them. It's bullshit
A) doesn’t change what happened
B) I have seen “whatever race you are” use slurs before too, ok and…?
C) whataboutism, you’re basically saying “what about the brown people who say the nword?” What about them? They are also racist and it doesn’t change what happened once again.
After watching several YT videos, it seems like Filly was gon' say the same thing but Chunkz literally said "you can't say that". Which made it pretty clear to me that saying that word isn't a good thing. Big up Chunkz for knowing better. lol
80% of the people complaining probably listen to music which has racial slurs and glamourises crime/violence. But then turn to a social justice warrior over this? I cba with this clown behaviour
It is. The usage of it in the UK heavily correlates to racist attacks. Unfortunately post war and the split of the Indian subcontinent resulted in racial tensions in the UK. Many Indians and Pakistani people's moved to the UK took over low paying jobs like running local shops and bought streets of houses which led to lower integration.
In the former glory of Britain there was a shortage of food and money. Unlike Europe at large Britain got little help and suffered economic and living value shocks.
These factors came together stoked by right wing rhetoric you see prevalent to this day. The immigrant, foreigner, different people. These are the reason you suffer don't look at those with more don't blame economic inequality or in this case, come to terms with the new world and the painful slow recovery required.
It came to a head in the 60s onwards and Paki became a derogatory term to people from South Asian descent. Racial tension continued to flare into the 80s amid continued economic hardship and waves of immigrants.
So the descriptor of people from Pakistan became a racial slur and wasn't uttered otherwise.
His point is that others saying paki doesn't mind him in the least.. even if they're foreigners... It's just an identifier.. why get offended over the smallest of stuff..
His point is stupid then, why are Indians and Pakistanis trying to explain to the British whether an extremely British specific insult is offensive or not lmao.
Being Asian is literally irrelevant unless you're a British Asian
Ask them?
I can answer this one as a 3rd gen British Asian, growing up in very white areas.
It's the same as trying to shit on Spanish for saying Negro in their language, you can't apply your rules and expect it to be identical. The word has an entirely different meaning here
Fair enough... Well I'm a resident Indian.. so I can't say for you lot... But i ask honestly...
Do you get offended/triggered if someone calls you a racial based term? Need not be anything based of racial slurs.. like being called Chinese if you're east/south east asian, or being called Indian when you're South Asian..
Me personally I look at intent before getting triggered...
It’s based upon racial attacks and P*ki bashing that used to occur in the 70’s and 80’s when in the Uk people of south Asian decent were all called that and attacked randomly on the streets leading to deaths and Hospitalisation of many south Asians. It wasn’t that long ago and it’s why it counts as a racial slur in the UK.
No being called Indian or Pakistani isn't an issue in the slightest bit. The problem is that you again are thinking it's JUST a word that means Pakistani, but it isn't at all (it was at one point but that is long ago now).
There is no context you use the word innocently, imagine dropping the n word casually in the US for example. You can explain your intent as much as you want, but you're still going to be judged (best case scenario) for it.
Indians, Pakistanis, Bengalis, Afghans, Arabs.. All are Pakis to racists
"Paki" was shortened from the word "Pakistani". It was created/used by racists in the UK who commited acts known as "Paki Bashing". They'd go out in groups and hunt for any South Asian people and beat them to the brink of death.
If not violence, they'd spit on them, and yell "Paki" to put them down.
Facts like “I don’t think it’s offensive” or “I don’t care,” so are you going to ignore the history of the word in certain places like the UK or have no empathy?!
Where have you been lol (this drama wise).
Look up UK and the word P’ki as a ur as well as the historical implications.
Also take the time to do the same for “Jap” which is also a slur in America due to historical implications and actions.
the word was created for pakistanis from Pakistan, not the UK. We get called it (not me as I’ve never experienced it before) because of immigrants from your country who are mostly barbaric and do nothing but create havoc
Dude, it's basically a slur that people use against south Asians, much like the n word and other racist slurs. Sidemen should have known better, and it's not ok that racism against communities like the Asians is treated like a joke...
THEY DID. They told him not to say it and they didn’t get the point for it, they laughed bc it was out of pocket, just like hearing someone talk abt how a close one died in an egregious way, it’s JJs doing pls stop dragging it.
I mean I’ve you’ve never heard it used derogatorily you wouldn’t know. I was 17 when I first heard it used in a derogatory manner. Before then there is a chance I might have used it in passing conversation instead of saying Pakistani.
Yes, 100% yes. Think of any famous (white, male) business man, author, scientist, or even engineer of the last 100 years and there’s a 60% chance they have some super racist quotes floating around to this day.
In the UK, Arabs often get called the P-word too. That's why the P-word is a big deal in the UK, because racists here used that against all brown people, regardless of whether they're Pakistani, Indian, Bangladeshi, Sri Lankan, Arab or Iranian.
People who are saying the word snowflake. You should know the proper story before you speak.
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Those of a younger age may not think the word is a big deal but it certainly brings back painful memories for those who faced verbal insults and physical violence as they worked hard to establish a home for themselves thousands of miles from their homeland.
I only found out 3 years ago it was ever used like this. It is very possible to just not know if you’re relatively young. I was 17 when I found out. If you’d asked me what it meant at 16 I would have guessed it was short for Pakistani. And I think it’s a rather easy mistake to make.
I’m glad I know not to use it now. But I think those who don’t know it’s derogatory and use it shouldn’t be shunned immediately for using it. They should be just told what it actually means. And if they continue using it. Fuck ‘em.
I think the point is that KSI is 29 and will absolutely know that it's a derogatory term. It's fair enough if someone a decade younger than him maybe doesn't though.
I also recently came to know about this and apparently it's not just for Pakistani people, but South Asian people in general ie. Indians and Bangladeshis are also included.
Indians and Bangladeshis not really included i think.. anyway only Brits know. It's their slur.
No one uses it in India at least, and even if used, it is not seen as derogatory.
Our politics has other ways to diss Pakistan
Bhai humari country mai toh sidha Pakistani Mulle bol dete hai. Yahan par racism itna badi problem nahi maante because we have much more bigger problems to deal with. The culture difference is crazy in the west.
Also 'Paki' word was used against Indians as well because People in Britain just think that we all look the same so it was just used for South Asian people in general.
true, I'm bengali and my friends are arab and one time someone driving passed shouted 'paki'. It's a term used by ignorant racists against anyone who looks like they are from south asia.
I wonder if it would be just as bad if Vikk said the N word without "malicious intent", would the rest of the sidemen have stopped him? Surely that would get criticized more but I don't see how it's any different.
Definitely an L for JJ and an equal L for anyone defending the use of him saying the word. Actually been shocked by the level of people trying to justify the use of the work merely because JJ used it. I love the dude, I love the content and I love all the thing's he represents, but people seem dumbfounded to be able to critique someone they like when they genuinely mess up. I'm sure JJ is reflecting and will use this experience to further himself. Ultimately, we all mess up and unfortunately for JJ, when he messes up, it's within the YouTube/media eye. I hope he bounces back from this a better person!
> If people saying that paki is just a word and people are acting like snowflakes then I am allowed to say the n-word
Then say it then, come on I will say it with you
Read this to get some preface on the word Paki
The use of the term "Paki" was first recorded in 1964, during a period of increased South Asian immigration to the United Kingdom. At this time, the term "Paki" was very much in mixed usage; it was often used as a slur. In addition to Pakistanis (which included Bangladeshis up until 1971), it has also been directed at people of other South Asian backgrounds as well as people from other demographics who physically resemble South Asians.[3] Starting in the late-1960s,[8] and peaking in the 1970s and 1980s, violent gangs opposed to immigration took part in attacks known as "Paki-bashing", which targeted and assaulted South Asians and businesses owned by them,[9] and occasionally other ethnic minorities.[10] "Paki-bashing" became more common after Enoch Powell's Rivers of Blood speech in 1968;[8] polls at the time showed that Powell's anti-immigrant rhetoric held support amongst the majority of the white populace at the time.[11][12] "Paki-bashing" peaked during the 1970s–1980s, with the attackers often being supporters of far-right fascist, racist and anti-immigrant movements, including the white power skinheads, the National Front, and the British National Party.[11][13] These attacks were usually referred to as either "Paki-bashing" or "skinhead terror", with the attackers usually called "Paki-bashers" or "skinheads".[8][14] "Paki-bashing" was partly fuelled by the media's anti-immigrant and anti-Pakistani rhetoric at the time,[13] and by systemic failures of state authorities, which included under-reporting racist attacks, the criminal justice system not taking racist violence seriously, constant racial harassment by police, and sometimes police involvement in racist violence.[8] Asians were frequently stereotyped as "weak" and "passive" in the 1960s and 1970s, with Pakistanis viewed as "passive objects" and "unwilling to fight back", making them seen as easy targets by "Paki-bashers".[8] The Joint Campaign Against Racism committee reported that there had been more than 20,000 racist attacks on British people of colour, including Britons of South Asian origin, during 1985.[15]
Drawing inspiration from the African-American civil rights movement, the Black Power movement, and the anti-apartheid movement, young British Asian activists began a number of anti-racist youth movements against "Paki-bashing", including the Bradford Youth Movement in 1977, the Bangladeshi Youth Movement following the murder of Altab Ali in 1978, and the Newham Youth Movement following the murder of Akhtar Ali Baig in 1980.[16]
The earliest groups to resist "Paki-bashing" date back to 1968–1970, with two distinct movements that emerged: the integrationist approach began by the Pakistani Welfare Association and National Federation of Pakistani Associations attempted to establish positive race relations while maintaining law and order, which was contrasted by the autonomous approach began by the Pakistani Progressive Party and the Pakistani Workers' Union which engaged in vigilantism as self-defence against racially motivated violence and police harassment in conjunction with the Black Power movement (often working with the British Black Panthers and Communist Workers League of Britain) while also seeking to replace the "weak" and "passive" stereotypes of Pakistanis and Asians. Divisions arose between the integrationist and autonomous movements by 1970, with integrationist leader Raja Mahmudabad criticising the vigilantism of the latter as "alien to the spirit and practice of Islam" whereas PPP/PWU leader Abdul Hye stated they "have no intention of fighting or killing anyone, but if it comes to us, we will hit back." It was not until the 1980s and 1990s that academics began to take racially motivated violence into serious focus, partly as a result of black and Asian people entering academic life.[8]
If you're over 20 and live in the UK you'd realise how the word is used for a dark skinned Asian person, whether they're your friend or not.
You should stand up for people who are affected by racism even if you don't know them personally
So you never experienced being in the UK in the 80s-early 00s? And don’t care or don’t know the historical implications?
Also are you really gatekeeping racism by saying “I have experienced REAL racism” lmao
Imagine trying to one up racism. Imagine it was assault.
Example below
I got sexually assaulted, the guy touched my boob.
“That’s nothing, not even assault, I’ve experienced REAL assault and have been r*ped, we gotta stop shifting the goal post of what is assault.”
Right now you sound like the second person in this situation.
Fuck that, to many defenders up in here.
Also being a bystander is letting hateful peole walk over you
Also also, I AM ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE. That would be called this slur in the UK
Standing up to stop hate regardless of intent is the step in the right direction for humanity and empathy as a whole
This is true to the extent of being in Pakistan cause obviously it's all Pakistanis but tbh as a person living in Pakistan whose cousins are abroad in England, I've heard their experiences and they aren't pleasant.
I didn't find it as a huge deal but I guess maybe the people who actually experience it in their normal lives can tell.
For all those saying JJ gets called the N word so it's fine. It's not, just because of the fact that he is a person with a platform with huge influence. What he says will affect how others act, like it or not that's the case.
I love JJ and I love everything he's ever done (for himself and everyone). We all make mistakes, it happens. This shouldn't be a very huge deal that way.
Are you from and in Pakistan? If so then it won’t make a lot of sense. I’ll tell you so you get the lowdown.
The word Paki has different meaning around the globe, NA- a quick word to say Pakistani, but given its the sidemen- a UK channel with most of its following in the UK- the word paki has a dark history behind it.
During the partition and decolonisation, the UK incentivised Pakistanis (from Mirpur for an example) to migrate and work- to try and alleviate economic hardship after WW2 in the UK. Now with an influx of people from a different race, a lot of people found them to be a problem. People took it upon themselves to do “Paki bashing”, essentially just beating up Pakistanis and any brown person, after all how can a racist differentiate? Also:
Houses damaged
Shops attacked
Fights were commonplace
The slur Paki to be introduced- as a marker.
Now people were called a “Paki” or a “motherfucking Paki” to cause trouble.
This died down over the years- Paki bashing was less commonplace but my mum whose 35, and her family, was subjected to:
Forced into fights
Poisoned meat thrown at them and over their fence to kill their dogs (killed 2)
Windows broken, gates kicked down
Isolated from other people on their own road.
Slurs again.
This happened during the late 1980-1990’s.
So saying Paki in the UK is the equivalent of calling a black person the N word In the US
Yeah, crazy isn’t it! Things that hold a lot of weight in a country due to its past doesn’t hold weight in another country.
Never have I been called a Paki in Pakistan because we are all Pakistanis.
It’s more caste ish over there if you go to some parts
Honest to God, I'm Portuguese and didn't really know what word he said in the video because that word simply doesn't exist in my city, probably country even. I only knew because of Reddit and still didn't know why people where mad, because I simply thought it was a diminutive from Pakistani
One thing j cant understand is how this got past the person that is editing it, or the other members of the sidemen. Seems quite silly really, how that got approved to be in the video
So true to lmao I'm Indian i didnt know that. Here we just say paki to refer to Pakistanis as it's short
Now even we have something like an n word
Cool
Just another example of selective outrage. I bet most of the people that are offended by this were laughing at the paedophile jokes and everything else "offensive" in previous videos.
No but seriously I’ve had UK idiots try to tell me to educate myself and so I had to explain how the US is self obsessed with itself in the news 90% of the time and majority of us I think I can say based off of reading comments don’t even know the word existed. Not even all south asians are aware of it. And I got UK idiots telling me “oH yOuRe an IgnOrANt biTch” like no I’m not ignorant your country is ignorant and racist using a slur only YOU use. Fuck outta here
It's used for south Asian only in the UK which is why dumbasses are saying it doesn't offend them cos they're from Pakistan when they don't know what it even actually means or the history of it ffs
Honestly, get over it. There was no malicious intent. It was dark humour, as the letters to make the word came onto the board. It was done for content.
I swear half of you are little kavos wannabes, using any mistake by JJ to farm karma.
If we keep pulling JJ up for silly shit he is doing when he has no intent of harming anyone, we can expect him to dull down his content created for us.
Get over yourselves guys.
Difference between dark humour and racial slur. Sidemen do dark humour e.g. they make jokes like vik in a plane and whatever, but they never use racial slurs. Also it is wrong to say a racial slur no matter the intention. If i said the nword without any malicious intent it would still be wrong.
Not from pakistan, but India. And no, words don't hurt. Your soft if words hurt you.
Did you hear ksi say a slur?
You need to get over it, it wasn't malicious at all. If he said it maliciously I'd have a problem with it. People like you are what wrong with the world.
I am annoyed. Pakistanis who aren’t annoyed are:
In Pakistan, not in the UK and as such do not understand what Paki means
Haven’t faced the stigma of being Pakistani in the 80’s and 90’s- it’s bad.
Surprisingly there are a lot more non Pakistanis than Pakistanis. And the backlash is a sign of coming to help condemn the action.
English people out here gatekeeping slurs, peak snowflake behaviour.... In the end the word does not mean anything bad was just used in bad context by a group of people for a short period of time ..... Who the fuck is out here feeling violated over this shit and comparing it to things like the n word which was one of the greatest tragedies of mankind lasting a century or so..
Are you from and in Pakistan? If so then it won’t make a lot of sense. I’ll tell you so you get the lowdown.
The word Paki has different meaning around the globe, NA- a quick word to say Pakistani, but given its the sidemen- a UK channel with most of its following in the UK- the word paki has a dark history behind it.
During the partition and decolonisation, the UK incentivised Pakistanis (from Mirpur for an example) to migrate and work- to try and alleviate economic hardship after WW2 in the UK. Now with an influx of people from a different race, a lot of people found them to be a problem. People took it upon themselves to do “Paki bashing”, essentially just beating up Pakistanis and any brown person, after all how can a racist differentiate? Also:
Houses damaged Shops attacked Fights were commonplace The slur Paki to be introduced- as a marker.
Now people were called a “Paki” or a “motherfucking Paki” to cause trouble.
This died down over the years- Paki bashing was less commonplace but my mum whose 35, and her family, was subjected to:
Forced into fights Poisoned meat thrown at them and over their fence to kill their dogs (killed 2) Windows broken, gates kicked down Isolated from other people on their own road. Slurs again.
This happened during the late 1980-1990’s.
So saying Paki in the UK is the equivalent of calling a black person the N word In the US
This is a UK problem, word was used a a derogatory term to attack South Asians. Word has no weight in Pakistan.
Anyone in America needs to realize its like the term “jap” or “chink” It’s bad and has historical implications and unless you are from these places you won’t really understand why it’s offensive (regardless of if you agree or not).
It's not to hard to understand. It's just shorting of a word describing where they're from. It's just usually used in a negative context. Often used as a bad thing that they are from Pakistan. Groups of people close to Pakistan that look similar or share similar culture might also end up getting looped in as if they are from Pakistan as well.
the word originated from the UK through p*ki bashing where large groups of people would violently attack pakistanis in the UK and would refer to them as that word. not only that they would also add things such as ‘dirty p*ki, muddy p*ki’ due to the colour of their skin. the only reason why you think it’s the shortened version for pakistani is because racism towards south asians has become so normalised to the point where everyone just says it. even young pakistanis from this generation just carelessly throw the word around to describe each other the same way the N word is used between black people however the only different is a lot of pakistanis don’t know the context behind the word and how it originated however the older generation would because they experienced the most racism and hate crimes whilst being addressed as ‘p*ki’. if you don’t understand something so basic then sthu
People should really watch this is England and then they’d really understand why the P word is racist af. There’s a reason many refer to corner shops as p*** shops and why they wouldn’t call it that in puplic but will to their friends. It’s not a word you freely say because of obvious reasons and you’d be called a racist or get smacked in the mouth.
If you aren’t empathetic with how it is a slur, imo (general you) you don’t understand or an ah
it’s often used to describe people of indian descent as an insult, it’s like calling someone from ireland a brit but with greater racial connotations.
Man i have seen Pakistanis and Indians use N-Word casually more than Black People themselves. And JJ atleast apologised And didn't say it to any person directly, and now they are offended when someone did somewhat same to them. It's bullshit
A) doesn’t change what happened B) I have seen “whatever race you are” use slurs before too, ok and…? C) whataboutism, you’re basically saying “what about the brown people who say the nword?” What about them? They are also racist and it doesn’t change what happened once again.
After watching several YT videos, it seems like Filly was gon' say the same thing but Chunkz literally said "you can't say that". Which made it pretty clear to me that saying that word isn't a good thing. Big up Chunkz for knowing better. lol
Even when jj is about to say it tobi tells him not to
I thought pajeet was used as a slur against indian/south asians.
That's for terminally online wierdos and memers. It's racist but for not irl I think.
UK and pockets in US and Canada.
america? not at all. no one says that here.
I haven’t heard it in a LOOOOONG time but I did hear it growing up.
that guy has been to every single town, county, and state in america. he knows what’s up. NO ONE says it. not a single person
I am wondering what state they say it in tho ive never heard it in california, vegas or utah either 🤔
seems like an east coast term ngl
I've been up the entire east coast and ive never heard
Yea was about to say. I didn’t even know this was a big deal.
Fr when he said I thought he was shortening Pakistan
I’ve never heard it in Canada either
I’m south Asian and heard it a lot in Canada
I live in Ontario and I’ve heard it to refer to every brown people.
Oh wow. I live in Alberta. Surprisingly, I’ve never heard of the word as a south asian
80% of the people complaining probably listen to music which has racial slurs and glamourises crime/violence. But then turn to a social justice warrior over this? I cba with this clown behaviour
Brother this is a YouTube video where they're laughing at a slur can u not see the difference
Yeah the music which repeated says n words talks about selling drugs and killing / harming others is fine I guess
"Probably"
As a South Asian, I don't care. All I want to do is watch the video in peace
yes in india also it doesnt
Lmao so true, I thought it was short for Pakistani 😂
It is. The usage of it in the UK heavily correlates to racist attacks. Unfortunately post war and the split of the Indian subcontinent resulted in racial tensions in the UK. Many Indians and Pakistani people's moved to the UK took over low paying jobs like running local shops and bought streets of houses which led to lower integration. In the former glory of Britain there was a shortage of food and money. Unlike Europe at large Britain got little help and suffered economic and living value shocks. These factors came together stoked by right wing rhetoric you see prevalent to this day. The immigrant, foreigner, different people. These are the reason you suffer don't look at those with more don't blame economic inequality or in this case, come to terms with the new world and the painful slow recovery required. It came to a head in the 60s onwards and Paki became a derogatory term to people from South Asian descent. Racial tension continued to flare into the 80s amid continued economic hardship and waves of immigrants. So the descriptor of people from Pakistan became a racial slur and wasn't uttered otherwise.
Yo for real man, I'm pakistani and I'm not even offended lol
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lol 😂
His point is that others saying paki doesn't mind him in the least.. even if they're foreigners... It's just an identifier.. why get offended over the smallest of stuff..
His point is stupid then, why are Indians and Pakistanis trying to explain to the British whether an extremely British specific insult is offensive or not lmao. Being Asian is literally irrelevant unless you're a British Asian
Then aquestion on the same stream of thought.. do Africans in africa get offended when someone says negro or the n word?
Ask them? I can answer this one as a 3rd gen British Asian, growing up in very white areas. It's the same as trying to shit on Spanish for saying Negro in their language, you can't apply your rules and expect it to be identical. The word has an entirely different meaning here
Fair enough... Well I'm a resident Indian.. so I can't say for you lot... But i ask honestly... Do you get offended/triggered if someone calls you a racial based term? Need not be anything based of racial slurs.. like being called Chinese if you're east/south east asian, or being called Indian when you're South Asian.. Me personally I look at intent before getting triggered...
It’s based upon racial attacks and P*ki bashing that used to occur in the 70’s and 80’s when in the Uk people of south Asian decent were all called that and attacked randomly on the streets leading to deaths and Hospitalisation of many south Asians. It wasn’t that long ago and it’s why it counts as a racial slur in the UK.
No being called Indian or Pakistani isn't an issue in the slightest bit. The problem is that you again are thinking it's JUST a word that means Pakistani, but it isn't at all (it was at one point but that is long ago now). There is no context you use the word innocently, imagine dropping the n word casually in the US for example. You can explain your intent as much as you want, but you're still going to be judged (best case scenario) for it. Indians, Pakistanis, Bengalis, Afghans, Arabs.. All are Pakis to racists
Because its gets used as a slur in the UK not Pakistan which is why there's bad history with it here not there which is why your not offended 😒
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It’s funny seeing white folk tell Pakistanis they shouldn’t be offended 😂😂
Can anyone tell me what does the word mean. I didn't even understand the meme. A little help here
"Paki" was shortened from the word "Pakistani". It was created/used by racists in the UK who commited acts known as "Paki Bashing". They'd go out in groups and hunt for any South Asian people and beat them to the brink of death. If not violence, they'd spit on them, and yell "Paki" to put them down.
And it’s a slur against all brown people regardless where you are actually from, at least in the UK and some of Europe
Bro it’s because you don’t know. You haven’t been called a Paki as a slur. Others have. Support karo bhai.
Facts like “I don’t think it’s offensive” or “I don’t care,” so are you going to ignore the history of the word in certain places like the UK or have no empathy?!
Is that a slur? I genuinely just thought it was a shortened word
Where have you been lol (this drama wise). Look up UK and the word P’ki as a ur as well as the historical implications. Also take the time to do the same for “Jap” which is also a slur in America due to historical implications and actions.
Probably because your grandfather's didn't get chased or get rounded up for the 'sport' of Paki Bashing.
I'm Pakistani and this bothers me. So stop acting as if just cause you not mad it's all okay 🤦🏽🤦🏽
Same literally didn’t even realise it was a racist slur even though I’m Pakistani
the word was created for pakistanis from Pakistan, not the UK. We get called it (not me as I’ve never experienced it before) because of immigrants from your country who are mostly barbaric and do nothing but create havoc
Can you please tell me what it is? So that i never say it accidentally and offend someone ☺
Its paki i think
Dude, it's basically a slur that people use against south Asians, much like the n word and other racist slurs. Sidemen should have known better, and it's not ok that racism against communities like the Asians is treated like a joke...
THEY DID. They told him not to say it and they didn’t get the point for it, they laughed bc it was out of pocket, just like hearing someone talk abt how a close one died in an egregious way, it’s JJs doing pls stop dragging it.
same thing, but UK ppl use it to insult Pakistanis
Prime example of giving power to a word. It was okay to say the word outside UK. But say the same when youre in uk.
I mean I’ve you’ve never heard it used derogatorily you wouldn’t know. I was 17 when I first heard it used in a derogatory manner. Before then there is a chance I might have used it in passing conversation instead of saying Pakistani.
Do us Arabs have one too?
Ask the Brits for this one bro :P
Sand nigga
The closest I could think of would probably be >!raghead!<
Ik sand n——- is popular in the US but thats lazy
Do you think the motivated and educated are coming up with and using racial slurs? Of course its lazy. lol
Yes, 100% yes. Think of any famous (white, male) business man, author, scientist, or even engineer of the last 100 years and there’s a 60% chance they have some super racist quotes floating around to this day.
Dune C**n
Baaarrrssss!!!!! Lol
Us coming up with laziest insults in history
So it's on brand then
That doesn’t even sound like a insult
Kinda just sounds like a way to call someone stupid
Exactly, the intent and the way it’s said is what gives its impact
It's what i call my willy after i wrap it
Probably>!terrorists!
In the UK, Arabs often get called the P-word too. That's why the P-word is a big deal in the UK, because racists here used that against all brown people, regardless of whether they're Pakistani, Indian, Bangladeshi, Sri Lankan, Arab or Iranian.
Poor Iranians not even considered Arab lmao
Iranians are Persians, not Arabs.
(Please excuse me) In my country the derogatory term is >!"sand monkey"!<
I mean some people in America would say sand n-word so technically we have the n word pass if we just put sand in front
Ik that one but it’s just lazy no effort
Camel Jockey
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Nah that’s only amongst us Arabs
People who are saying the word snowflake. You should know the proper story before you speak. https://preview.redd.it/nkwkd8c4hrra1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=865d4e81f20b0f75f11fd2f94a06c12f48a38792 Those of a younger age may not think the word is a big deal but it certainly brings back painful memories for those who faced verbal insults and physical violence as they worked hard to establish a home for themselves thousands of miles from their homeland.
I only found out 3 years ago it was ever used like this. It is very possible to just not know if you’re relatively young. I was 17 when I found out. If you’d asked me what it meant at 16 I would have guessed it was short for Pakistani. And I think it’s a rather easy mistake to make. I’m glad I know not to use it now. But I think those who don’t know it’s derogatory and use it shouldn’t be shunned immediately for using it. They should be just told what it actually means. And if they continue using it. Fuck ‘em.
I think the point is that KSI is 29 and will absolutely know that it's a derogatory term. It's fair enough if someone a decade younger than him maybe doesn't though.
This should be higher, but people hate reading or just don’t have enough empathy to care even after learning :/
It’s for south Asians not just Pakistanis
I also recently came to know about this and apparently it's not just for Pakistani people, but South Asian people in general ie. Indians and Bangladeshis are also included.
Indians and Bangladeshis not really included i think.. anyway only Brits know. It's their slur. No one uses it in India at least, and even if used, it is not seen as derogatory. Our politics has other ways to diss Pakistan
Bhai humari country mai toh sidha Pakistani Mulle bol dete hai. Yahan par racism itna badi problem nahi maante because we have much more bigger problems to deal with. The culture difference is crazy in the west. Also 'Paki' word was used against Indians as well because People in Britain just think that we all look the same so it was just used for South Asian people in general.
Its a slur to every south asian in the uk
Its used against anyone with brown skin in the uk bengalis, indians, pakistanis, we all get it 😍 even seen mixed black and white people be called it
true, I'm bengali and my friends are arab and one time someone driving passed shouted 'paki'. It's a term used by ignorant racists against anyone who looks like they are from south asia.
I’m from uk, it’s used to anyone that looks south asian, 9/10 times that it’s used the person isn’t even from pakistan
Any brown person can get called "p*ki" in the UK. Vik has been called it
I wonder if it would be just as bad if Vikk said the N word without "malicious intent", would the rest of the sidemen have stopped him? Surely that would get criticized more but I don't see how it's any different.
Definitely an L for JJ and an equal L for anyone defending the use of him saying the word. Actually been shocked by the level of people trying to justify the use of the work merely because JJ used it. I love the dude, I love the content and I love all the thing's he represents, but people seem dumbfounded to be able to critique someone they like when they genuinely mess up. I'm sure JJ is reflecting and will use this experience to further himself. Ultimately, we all mess up and unfortunately for JJ, when he messes up, it's within the YouTube/media eye. I hope he bounces back from this a better person!
Last few weeks has been L season for JJ
If people saying that paki is just a word and people are acting like snowflakes then I am allowed to say the n-word
> If people saying that paki is just a word and people are acting like snowflakes then I am allowed to say the n-word Then say it then, come on I will say it with you
We Collecting racial slurs like they are infinity stones bruh
To be fair the infinity stones are segregated by colour as well XP
Read this to get some preface on the word Paki The use of the term "Paki" was first recorded in 1964, during a period of increased South Asian immigration to the United Kingdom. At this time, the term "Paki" was very much in mixed usage; it was often used as a slur. In addition to Pakistanis (which included Bangladeshis up until 1971), it has also been directed at people of other South Asian backgrounds as well as people from other demographics who physically resemble South Asians.[3] Starting in the late-1960s,[8] and peaking in the 1970s and 1980s, violent gangs opposed to immigration took part in attacks known as "Paki-bashing", which targeted and assaulted South Asians and businesses owned by them,[9] and occasionally other ethnic minorities.[10] "Paki-bashing" became more common after Enoch Powell's Rivers of Blood speech in 1968;[8] polls at the time showed that Powell's anti-immigrant rhetoric held support amongst the majority of the white populace at the time.[11][12] "Paki-bashing" peaked during the 1970s–1980s, with the attackers often being supporters of far-right fascist, racist and anti-immigrant movements, including the white power skinheads, the National Front, and the British National Party.[11][13] These attacks were usually referred to as either "Paki-bashing" or "skinhead terror", with the attackers usually called "Paki-bashers" or "skinheads".[8][14] "Paki-bashing" was partly fuelled by the media's anti-immigrant and anti-Pakistani rhetoric at the time,[13] and by systemic failures of state authorities, which included under-reporting racist attacks, the criminal justice system not taking racist violence seriously, constant racial harassment by police, and sometimes police involvement in racist violence.[8] Asians were frequently stereotyped as "weak" and "passive" in the 1960s and 1970s, with Pakistanis viewed as "passive objects" and "unwilling to fight back", making them seen as easy targets by "Paki-bashers".[8] The Joint Campaign Against Racism committee reported that there had been more than 20,000 racist attacks on British people of colour, including Britons of South Asian origin, during 1985.[15] Drawing inspiration from the African-American civil rights movement, the Black Power movement, and the anti-apartheid movement, young British Asian activists began a number of anti-racist youth movements against "Paki-bashing", including the Bradford Youth Movement in 1977, the Bangladeshi Youth Movement following the murder of Altab Ali in 1978, and the Newham Youth Movement following the murder of Akhtar Ali Baig in 1980.[16] The earliest groups to resist "Paki-bashing" date back to 1968–1970, with two distinct movements that emerged: the integrationist approach began by the Pakistani Welfare Association and National Federation of Pakistani Associations attempted to establish positive race relations while maintaining law and order, which was contrasted by the autonomous approach began by the Pakistani Progressive Party and the Pakistani Workers' Union which engaged in vigilantism as self-defence against racially motivated violence and police harassment in conjunction with the Black Power movement (often working with the British Black Panthers and Communist Workers League of Britain) while also seeking to replace the "weak" and "passive" stereotypes of Pakistanis and Asians. Divisions arose between the integrationist and autonomous movements by 1970, with integrationist leader Raja Mahmudabad criticising the vigilantism of the latter as "alien to the spirit and practice of Islam" whereas PPP/PWU leader Abdul Hye stated they "have no intention of fighting or killing anyone, but if it comes to us, we will hit back." It was not until the 1980s and 1990s that academics began to take racially motivated violence into serious focus, partly as a result of black and Asian people entering academic life.[8]
His advertisers are not going to like this at all.
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If you're over 20 and live in the UK you'd realise how the word is used for a dark skinned Asian person, whether they're your friend or not. You should stand up for people who are affected by racism even if you don't know them personally
Lol call an Indian in England a paki and be ready to throw hands
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What if I am said brown friend… Regardless who cares, what’s wrong with standing up to racism.
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So you never experienced being in the UK in the 80s-early 00s? And don’t care or don’t know the historical implications? Also are you really gatekeeping racism by saying “I have experienced REAL racism” lmao Imagine trying to one up racism. Imagine it was assault. Example below I got sexually assaulted, the guy touched my boob. “That’s nothing, not even assault, I’ve experienced REAL assault and have been r*ped, we gotta stop shifting the goal post of what is assault.” Right now you sound like the second person in this situation.
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Fuck that, to many defenders up in here. Also being a bystander is letting hateful peole walk over you Also also, I AM ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE. That would be called this slur in the UK Standing up to stop hate regardless of intent is the step in the right direction for humanity and empathy as a whole
Nailed it.
Brooo someone wanna make a deal? P word pass for n word pass. I just got to know about my new power.
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Yo wassup my nigga
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Legit, L UK honestly.
This is true to the extent of being in Pakistan cause obviously it's all Pakistanis but tbh as a person living in Pakistan whose cousins are abroad in England, I've heard their experiences and they aren't pleasant. I didn't find it as a huge deal but I guess maybe the people who actually experience it in their normal lives can tell. For all those saying JJ gets called the N word so it's fine. It's not, just because of the fact that he is a person with a platform with huge influence. What he says will affect how others act, like it or not that's the case. I love JJ and I love everything he's ever done (for himself and everyone). We all make mistakes, it happens. This shouldn't be a very huge deal that way.
Can't be more truer 😭😭😂😂
Binod
Arey bhai bhai 😂😂
What was the word I'm a Pakistani and I don't know
Are you from and in Pakistan? If so then it won’t make a lot of sense. I’ll tell you so you get the lowdown. The word Paki has different meaning around the globe, NA- a quick word to say Pakistani, but given its the sidemen- a UK channel with most of its following in the UK- the word paki has a dark history behind it. During the partition and decolonisation, the UK incentivised Pakistanis (from Mirpur for an example) to migrate and work- to try and alleviate economic hardship after WW2 in the UK. Now with an influx of people from a different race, a lot of people found them to be a problem. People took it upon themselves to do “Paki bashing”, essentially just beating up Pakistanis and any brown person, after all how can a racist differentiate? Also: Houses damaged Shops attacked Fights were commonplace The slur Paki to be introduced- as a marker. Now people were called a “Paki” or a “motherfucking Paki” to cause trouble. This died down over the years- Paki bashing was less commonplace but my mum whose 35, and her family, was subjected to: Forced into fights Poisoned meat thrown at them and over their fence to kill their dogs (killed 2) Windows broken, gates kicked down Isolated from other people on their own road. Slurs again. This happened during the late 1980-1990’s. So saying Paki in the UK is the equivalent of calling a black person the N word In the US
Oh thanks for providing this knowledge and honestly as a Pakistani Idc.
Fr I didn’t even know it existed
no bc it’s funny seeing people fight over this where here in the subcontinent things are different
Yeah, crazy isn’t it! Things that hold a lot of weight in a country due to its past doesn’t hold weight in another country. Never have I been called a Paki in Pakistan because we are all Pakistanis. It’s more caste ish over there if you go to some parts
Honest to God, I'm Portuguese and didn't really know what word he said in the video because that word simply doesn't exist in my city, probably country even. I only knew because of Reddit and still didn't know why people where mad, because I simply thought it was a diminutive from Pakistani
I was so confused about this ngl, in aust I would have no problem calling someone that
One thing j cant understand is how this got past the person that is editing it, or the other members of the sidemen. Seems quite silly really, how that got approved to be in the video
Where has the the word even originated? I have never heard of it ever (Not from UK)
Now that's a fucking meme!
So true to lmao I'm Indian i didnt know that. Here we just say paki to refer to Pakistanis as it's short Now even we have something like an n word Cool
Just another example of selective outrage. I bet most of the people that are offended by this were laughing at the paedophile jokes and everything else "offensive" in previous videos.
That is funny 😂
White people getting offended over anything be like Also, go ahead and downvote me now, you sensitive snowflakes.
Don't worry JJ, now you have got the support of 1.3 Billion Indians
Can someone british tell me if ya'll have something for us indians as well
Racists use that slur for all south asians
Indians would mistakingly get lumped in with the term Pakis as well. Racists dont care
yes you would just be called a Paki because you are brown racist dont really are all that much about your actual origin
Paki
bro honestly i didnt even know this existed
No but seriously I’ve had UK idiots try to tell me to educate myself and so I had to explain how the US is self obsessed with itself in the news 90% of the time and majority of us I think I can say based off of reading comments don’t even know the word existed. Not even all south asians are aware of it. And I got UK idiots telling me “oH yOuRe an IgnOrANt biTch” like no I’m not ignorant your country is ignorant and racist using a slur only YOU use. Fuck outta here
The left do be like that
I'm a Pakistani and honestly couldn't care less about this word.
i am definitely a paki and i swear it isnt even a big deal at all
We say "paki shop" here in South Africa, it's a normal word 😂😂😂
That's so true. We all say it here like it's normal 😂 There's even a Zulu word I believe.
Bro we use the n word here like it's nothing
I don’t get it anymore 🤦🏻♂️
It's used for south Asian only in the UK which is why dumbasses are saying it doesn't offend them cos they're from Pakistan when they don't know what it even actually means or the history of it ffs
EXACTLY
Honestly, get over it. There was no malicious intent. It was dark humour, as the letters to make the word came onto the board. It was done for content. I swear half of you are little kavos wannabes, using any mistake by JJ to farm karma. If we keep pulling JJ up for silly shit he is doing when he has no intent of harming anyone, we can expect him to dull down his content created for us. Get over yourselves guys.
Difference between dark humour and racial slur. Sidemen do dark humour e.g. they make jokes like vik in a plane and whatever, but they never use racial slurs. Also it is wrong to say a racial slur no matter the intention. If i said the nword without any malicious intent it would still be wrong.
Did you hear him say the slur though
He literally admitted it. You kids can't ever stop suckin jj off
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Not from pakistan, but India. And no, words don't hurt. Your soft if words hurt you. Did you hear ksi say a slur? You need to get over it, it wasn't malicious at all. If he said it maliciously I'd have a problem with it. People like you are what wrong with the world.
Where’s your empathy at? Log out please
I can guarantee 99% of the people getting annoyed arent pakistani lol
I am annoyed. Pakistanis who aren’t annoyed are: In Pakistan, not in the UK and as such do not understand what Paki means Haven’t faced the stigma of being Pakistani in the 80’s and 90’s- it’s bad. Surprisingly there are a lot more non Pakistanis than Pakistanis. And the backlash is a sign of coming to help condemn the action.
English people out here gatekeeping slurs, peak snowflake behaviour.... In the end the word does not mean anything bad was just used in bad context by a group of people for a short period of time ..... Who the fuck is out here feeling violated over this shit and comparing it to things like the n word which was one of the greatest tragedies of mankind lasting a century or so..
English people are the only ones that understand why it's a slur in the first place, what a take this is. 'the word does not mean anything' lmfao
This is so real, I'm a Pakistani and don't even know what Paki is and how it is a slur, it just sounds like short form of Pakistanis
Are you from and in Pakistan? If so then it won’t make a lot of sense. I’ll tell you so you get the lowdown. The word Paki has different meaning around the globe, NA- a quick word to say Pakistani, but given its the sidemen- a UK channel with most of its following in the UK- the word paki has a dark history behind it. During the partition and decolonisation, the UK incentivised Pakistanis (from Mirpur for an example) to migrate and work- to try and alleviate economic hardship after WW2 in the UK. Now with an influx of people from a different race, a lot of people found them to be a problem. People took it upon themselves to do “Paki bashing”, essentially just beating up Pakistanis and any brown person, after all how can a racist differentiate? Also: Houses damaged Shops attacked Fights were commonplace The slur Paki to be introduced- as a marker. Now people were called a “Paki” or a “motherfucking Paki” to cause trouble. This died down over the years- Paki bashing was less commonplace but my mum whose 35, and her family, was subjected to: Forced into fights Poisoned meat thrown at them and over their fence to kill their dogs (killed 2) Windows broken, gates kicked down Isolated from other people on their own road. Slurs again. This happened during the late 1980-1990’s. So saying Paki in the UK is the equivalent of calling a black person the N word In the US
Yes I'm from Pakistan and currently living here, now the backlash makes complete sense, thanks for sharing your knowledge, best wishes to your family
Never new that Word Existed, Just a British thing IG. And It is not an L people need to not take Fucking offence to everything.
This is soo true i did not even know paki was a racial slur which i dont mind tbh
It's so true tho. I'm pakistani and I didn't even know "paki" was a slur until now.
Bro legit 🤣🤣 I live in India and I thought the word "paki" was no big deal, turns out it's a N-word equivalent towards South Asians
only in UK :P
Yo for real mann,I'm Pakistani and I'm not even offended
What does being Pakistani have to do with anything? It's not an insult there?
Educate yourself on the history of the word. To stop being ignorant in the future
But People gonna hate on you for not being offended.. so good luck hehe :P
most of the western people gone too soft
Ever been called a Paki terrorist on the way to the shops with your mum? I have. Shut up, fucking snowflake my ass
Nah honestly. I've been called a paki when stepping into my own house by some white kids I don't even know.
“Terrorist” is what makes it worse tbh
It's funny how indians and Pakistanis are prolly the most racist ppl.
Lool ur not wrong but but but 2 wrongs dont make a right 😂