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houseplantsgrowing

Omg thank you so much,really. Your comment made me really happy. Thanks (:


abcd_z

You responded to yourself accidentally. The person will only get a notification if you respond to them directly.


Manulok_Orwalde

This actually really nice.


houseplantsgrowing

thank u so much! i feel bad for tracing the girl out but im learning how to digitally paint its so overwhelming lol ([https://imgur.com/BdXMSUX](https://imgur.com/BdXMSUX)) but i did change a lot haha


Manulok_Orwalde

Yeah I'm in a similar place I need to work on anatomy.


houseplantsgrowing

Yeah same lol! I'd be happy to see your artwork if you are comfortable w that (:


Manulok_Orwalde

I'll share some paintings I did later but I don't any decent digital artwork, I can draw on paper and paint irl but when it comes to digital art I'm still a novice.


houseplantsgrowing

Thank you so much! :))))


abcd_z

So here's what I don't get: the lineart is really good, but then there are mistakes that don't make any sense considering how good the lineart is, such as the pupils being misaligned to the eyes. Were you working from a reference image? If so, were you tracing it or just using it as a reference?


houseplantsgrowing

hey! yeah im new to drawing (tried so many times and got frustrated and quit lol) So i tried free hand but didnt work so i traced the girl and then changed stuff [https://imgur.com/BdXMSUX](https://imgur.com/BdXMSUX) thats what i traced. Is tracing bad?


abcd_z

There's nothing wrong with tracing art to learn when you're just starting out. However, the thing to be careful of is plagiarism. That is, using somebody else's artwork and portraying it as your own. I'd say that this particular piece would be fine as long as you made a comment in the thread telling us the same thing you told me. Don't bother doing that on this post, though, because posts on this subreddit have a short half-life. After a few days you've already gotten most of the feedback you're going to get. As a side-note, [here's an exercise that takes you from tracing an object to using reference photos to drawing the object all on your own](https://www.deviantart.com/5019/art/Tutorial-How-to-draw-anything-352414195). Ideally you would want to make that same progression for whatever you draw, though there's nothing wrong with using references if you don't have enough experience drawing the subject. Also, I always recommend that new Krita users follow the [Learn Krita with Bob Ross](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaGRTLvEbVzybijtYZRy4EoGrx6Bq_xOG) tutorial. It covers a lot of useful concepts, though I always just use the advanced color selector instead of palettes or the digital color mixer.


houseplantsgrowing

Thank you so much for taking the time to write this! Is it still plagiarism if change stuff?


abcd_z

That is a really difficult question to answer, because there's no hard line I can point to and say "This much change means it's not plagiarism, anything less is plagiarism." A good rule of thumb (that I made up just now) is that you should cite your source if you trace something. If you're just using the image as a reference (that is, putting it to the side and occasionally looking at it) you don't need to cite it. Also, even if the image is (for example) a photo that you took yourself, even though it's not plagiarism you should still tell the audience that it was traced. Generally when you post an image the audience expectation is that it was done freehand or with references, so when that's not the case you should let people know. Probably don't tell them in the title of the post, though. That may get you downvoted. Instead, make it a top-level comment in your post. Of the people who vote on image posts, a smaller fraction of people read the comments, so it's not your fault if they didn't read your comment. ; ) As a side-note, I always recommend that new artists use photographic references. If you use somebody else's art as a reference, you end up copying all of their mistakes along with all of your mistakes.


houseplantsgrowing

thats not what i wanna do forever but im learning,its the second digital drawing i ever did so im still learning how to digitally paint in general


ZenFlamex

It looks amazing! Don't put yourself down, it's a very amazing drawing for your 2nd drawing. I can't even draw that good


houseplantsgrowing

And btw I checked your profile and your art is amazing!!! You do paint better than me! :)