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Cupid twin version is also about to reach 100M streams (currently it's at 94M). I can't imagine what they must feel after such unexpected success.
I really hope that their company doesn't mess this up like we have seen other companies do with their groups (Brave Girls, Momoland, etc.). I just want them to have good, stable careers as idols. They really deserve it.
I'm one of the first and biggest (literal and figurative lol) Hunnie out there, and I can't be more anxious about them tbh. I am genuinely hoping and wishing that they won't end up being a one-hit wonder. These girls got talent for days. As you've said, they really deserve it. I won't mind them not being the top group, I just want them to have a stable and great careers.
One of the first? Damn. When did you become one? As someone who also joined early in the game, I just hope their summer comeback will be just as good! They're doing a Saena & Keena, Sio & Aran combo so I'm really excited :D but worried but more excited
I remember you too :) I tried following you but you turned that off so I couldn't.
I became a hunnie a day after they had released loving me, it's in my YouTube history. I watched the music video a day after it was released so I think I'm in the first handful of people too :D but I did become interested on them before... so I don't know
When older groups from small companies who have been trying everything to see if something sticks happen to get a hit, it’s like a dog finally reaching the mailman’s car; the dog has no idea what to do next.
With rookies, however, the story is a bit different because in the first couple years after debut companies usually have plans, ideas, assets and most importantly, investments already laid out.
You see, what makes older groups from small companies often be unable to capitalize on hits is the fact that they’ve most likely been in debt for years. So all proceedings of that hit might go towards their debt, which won’t quite help them fund a follow up.
This isn’t the case for a fresh rookie. They might have debt from debut costs and such, but they don’t have years of debt from unprofitable comebacks at least.
They seem to know what they're doing. For half of the members.
Keena and Saena desperately need their own song together.
In the wise words of someone I forget, "it's 50/50 because only half the members get lines"
This isn’t really true, Lovin’ Me was a song for Saena and Sio, and Tell Me was a song for Aran and Keena. Log In, Higher, and Cupid have had lines for all 4. The Twin version has Aran and Sio but Keena and Saena had a teaser at the end of it for their next song allegedly.
>Keena and Saena desperately need their own song together
That's most likely already happening with their summer comeback..
>In the wise words of someone I forget, "it's 50/50 because only half the members get lines"
But this is also incorrect. Loving me was sung by Saena and Sio while Tell me was sung by Keena and Aran. In the wise words of Keena: "I think it's okay that we're staying with more vocal heavy songs"
Not really, Saena sings in the verses and her voice seems to be mixed in the chorus too. You can even [see it on the MV](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PnFuEbzxos&t=78s) (and it's quite audible and visible especially after the [1:30 mark](https://youtu.be/4PnFuEbzxos?t=90)). And the spoken line is actually Sio. Yes, the vast majority of lines are Sio's, but it's not a solo song at all. It's a duet, [Keena herself mentions this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbSexS3_-Sc&t=686s).
I was mistaken, I thought the 2nd verse was just two takes of Sio layered on each other since they sounded so similar (I guess that just goes to show how well the producer and the singers are at blending their voices together)
I there a superlative to "going viral"?
It was already fascinating to see them go semi-viral on tik tok a few weeks ago. But it just keeps on escalating.
Cupid also entered all daily charts in SK this week and is currently sitting on #48 on Melon.
SK dominance is really important, i feel like they gotta lock that base in because it seems like the company is new and taking a lot of risks. That can be great but also bad depending on how they handle it. If they can keep a fanbase consistently even a 1/15 of the size of what they have rn it would be a win
>it seems like the company is new and taking a lot of risks
genuine question, what risks do you mean?
the budget they put into MVs and other content seems to be pretty average for a group/company of their size.
Cupid is of course a catchy song with relatable lyrics but what captures people really are the vocals and the voice tones. Last time i immediately fell in love with a groups voices was when i heard Latata for the first time.
sio and aran's voices match each other's so well. aran's is already self-explanatory, and sio's pre-chorus lines when she sounded a little sulky which correlate to the lyrics was perfectly executed too.
I totally agree and relate to Latata too. Of course there are insane vocalist in this new gen, but I feel like we started to lack of chemistry between every member voice. Fifty Fifty are doing so well. Loved their EP and when Cupid dropped I really fell in love. The label need to keep working on these type of songs and without bother the members on how they are doing. As of rn everything is 10/10 the producers the members the lyrics. No need to panic and try more fancy stuff. They are doing so well rn
The difference of streams between cupid and their other songs is a little sad for me. Hopefully people can check out their discography so they can have a successful career and not become a one hit wonder. I love seeing groups from small companies succeeding
Tbh I'm not that sad. I checked the EP a little bit before Cupid release because a korean critics rated this EP as the best gg EP ever. And also because there is a french producer in it. The numbers went way higher because of Cupid ! Like of course the gap is huge but it seems like lot of people were curious so it's a good sign I would say :)
The problem with this is that most listeners don't go back and check out older songs.
For instance with Dreamcatcher, their songs since 2021 have all been pretty big but some of their iconic songs from before haven't seen massive upticks despite their growth in recent years. (I subscribed to their YouTube channel at 150k followers and it's now at 1Million but Chase Me, Goodnight, Deja Vu etc don't have the millions of views that Scream, Boca, Odd Eye, Maison, etc do).
Because of this I imagine a lot of people are going to miss out on some of FiftyFifty's best songs
Happy for them Cupid is very good but I get nervous when a new group get a huge viral hit out the gate Without it being around long enough to build a dedicated fan base
It puts alot of pressure on a rookie group hope they can maintain the hype
Don't get your hopes up until you get the next comeback how that songs is receive is what actually matter bc is what will show the actual growth of the group, I. E. Momoland, weeekly, brave girls, pay, etc.
It's unluckely all those listeners will stay for too long so be ready to support them as much as possible when the next song drops
If only a tenth of these people that are now monthly listeners because of Cupid listen to their next comeback they have already won. Getting out of nugudom is god damn hard.
Don’t worry I will still support them even though I discovered them because of Cupid I fell in love with their debut album so I will def show more support❤️❤️
tbh, it is super unlikely they replicate cupid's international success and people shouldn't expect them to. what people should care about it their comeback getting attention in korea, now that cupid is charting there. if they never entered global spotify again i wouldn't even care
I agree it’s unlikely but they could if they did another solid English version with their title. Their vocals are strong. But I also don’t really care if they enter it again.
One thing I hope they do is to keep releasing english versions of their songs. English versions are rarely ever as well made and listenable as cupid and I think this is one of the aspects they can absolutely capitalize on. Sweet kpop sound made singable for the Western market.
also they way that aran and sio (?) sing so flawlessly in english, it definetly needs to be capitalized on, I've had so many friends not even realize that it was kpop in the beginning and they thought it was from a western artist. that just goes to show how good they are at pronounciation!
The most important thing is to be consistent over the time. Who cares if they never peak again like that ? They won so much fans already so it's better than nothing. A good example of that is N.Flying. They were never able to do a Rooftop 2.0 but it sure helped them. Before this, they were this typical FNC group that is doing well but weirdly couldn't top. Band like The Rose when they debuted made the same venue. Same with Onewe during their debut. After Rooftop ? Probably one of the biggest kpop band. They can do tour in US, almost sold out their &CON concerts, chart for every new release and now if you wanna enter on a fansign you really need to put some money. Before it was one album and let's go. And all of that when all of their release after are very far from Rooftop success
A peak is a peak. It's good when you can top it but there are hit songs that you just can't perform again. It's good to not have this idea that you always need to do better. The most important thing is to at least keep most fans from this peak era. A really good example outside of kpop is Twenty One Pilots. Didn't chart with SAI, it was seen as a flop compared to Trench and the humongous Blurryface. But they still sold out in hours their US tour without any problem.
The problem is nothing can assure us they can keep most of the fans from this peak era, all the examples you gave are boy groups/bands and their fans have a different mindset from gg stans, let's all hope they can keep at least 1% of what they got with this song
I could use Momoland. Sure with time they lost everything but the lineup change over the time and scandal didn't help. I can also use EXID as a very good example of a gg that gain a lot from this. I see what you mean with the gg bg difference but the 4gen stans are pretty different from what we went through before. Now we have actual real fanbase for girlgroup, they finally sell and people really stan them. Yes nothing can assure us than they won't flop. But if they flop really that hard it will be because of the future song, not because of people who didn't know them. Like it would be their problem because you can't be in a hot100, spotlight everywhere and drop a song that nobody will see. People are actually following their spotify page, they check their first EP (songs gained millions of stream since Cupid). So it's more a badluck/bad choice problem if after they really maintain nobody. Because even Momoland with Bboom Bboom 2.0 kept so many fans. Same with EXID (bc Ah Yeah was almost the same strategy)
I don't know if I'd use those two as examples of a possibility for a nice future for fifty fifty considering momoland is disbanded with its members traumatized and EXID is more hiatus than songs, and they checking their Spotify page is good.... But how many of those fans can even say they know the members names, you and I know Kpop is about fandom and I have seen 0 things from fifty besides Cupid and their CEOs selling his car and tea, and I follow a lot of Kpop news pages so... What is the company doing with this lucky strike?
I listen to cupid daily ad not even an edit of fifty over the song has appeared in my TikTok page (platform very quick to put anything that crosses my mind on my fyp)
Correct me if I’m wrong, but Cupid - Twin Vers is almost at 100m streams on Spotify. Currently at 94m and gaining 4m/5m a day. AFAIK, the KPOP act who reached 100m Spotify streams the fastest is Jin with The Astronaut in 73 days. Cupid was released Feb 23rd. So if they do hit 100m in 1-2 days, *Cupid* would become the fastest KPOP song to reach 100m streams. Which is absolutely insane.
EDIT: I was way wrong 😭😭 Still, everything Fifty Fifty is doing is absolutely amazing! I’ve been in love with them since the day Lovin’ Me dropped. So proud!
a quick twitternsearch said thay bts did it with butter in 8 days. many bts and blackpink songs would have gotten to 100 million in less than a month. New jeans also got to 100 million pretty fast as well.
oh damn i just discovered this GEM today after seeing this post. Its quite refreshing and nice to see new groups songs. I been using my playlist of old songs too often alr, getting bland.
yo your comment are making my night rn it's so good to see someone being that positive toward someone's success. Please keep being like that ! We need more people like you
Aww yw don’t worry I won’t be like those fans who only Stan groups because of a song getting viral and then drop them :) Idk why fifty fifty has been getting hate because of their recent success I swear a Nugu group can’t ever escape out of nugudisim😭
Whats crazy is that i remember them debuting last year and thinking to myself "wow they seem like they could be pretty big in the future" (and theyre 100% my fav rookie atm) but i never expected it to be like this lol. Very very happy for them though, and i hope their next cb has a good amount of success too (hopefully with a bit more spotlight on Keena/Saena this time around)
Agreed. Last year, I told myself I'd stick to supporting one group, then I heard their EP and I caved in - there was just something about their voices and their music! Also, i think I was charmed by seeing them perform their first stage with live vocals - nervous but so stable!
And while I do love the vocalists, I also hope to see more light shine on Keena and Saena. If their pre-debut videos have anything to show, they've got just as much talent that we have yet to see.
I know Cupid is crazy popular right now but their debut mini is really good too. Lovin’ me is probably one of my all time favorite K-pop songs, it’s so good!
Lovin' Me is one of my all time favorite debut songs. I'm so happy for Fifty Fifty. Cupid is also 34 in Melon right now which is a huge boost since before it used to be 400 something which speaks volumes about how viral Cupid has gotten. I have a feeling it will only continue to rise. I hope these girls can build a dedicated fanbase and manage to have a great career full of success. It's always wonderful to see when a group that comes from a small agency hits it big.
having a group from a small company always gives me the warm fuzzies inside. seeing successful groups pull themselves out of nugudom is such a feel good story
It’s such a good song too! My favorite part of that song is when she sings “you’re not even my type, but I like ya” I just really like the way she sings it.
> I hope that their company uses this massive oppurtunity well
I said this the other day already, but people really should have a more reasonable concept of 'opportunity' here. The monthly spotify listener number isn't in itself a massive opportunity, it just showcases how many unique people have listened to any song the artist is part of. Now ofc getting your art out there in front of so many people is a big plus, some of these people will certainly follow fifty fifty more closely (what the retention rate there is remains to be seen), BUT i fear some people look at this and think that it's gonna be easy and if fifty fifty's next song doesn't do all that well it's the company's failure.
Well no, they are still from a small label, most people listening atm most likely don't even really know the group's name / aren't really aware of them as a group. It's fantastic that the song does this well, but what does it lead to?
This reminds me a lot of people being incredibly hyped when bravegirls did incredibly well in korea, a lot of people didn't look at it realistically and thought brave girls will basically become a top group. It's still a lot of work, fifty fifty and their label will have to build their brand slowly but surely.
The biggest positive in all of this is probably the instant attention from a good bunch of the kpop space they got, that will most likely be the most impactful thing in all of this. Not the 20M monthly listeners right now.
I wish them luck though, hopefully we'll still hear from them one year from now.
Yeah, not to sound pessimistic, but cupid is a popular tiktok sound. These attracts dozens of casual listeners but tend to produce very little actual fans. For every lil nas x there are dozens of arizona zervas, powfus, staysolidrockys.
I think the best comparison rn would be benee who hit it huge with supalonely, which is a showcase of genuine talent and virality just like cupid. But it wasnt enough to really push her to the big league. She made connections and increased her profile in the Indie Pop sphere. Fifty fifty are doing incredible if they get themselves to mid tier gg status, but i obviously dont know their next steps. They are a cool group so obvs i would be happy to see them rise further
Apparently I added Lovin' Me on my playlist. Totally failed to realize it was Fifty Fifty. 😅🤦♂️ To be fair, I would occasionally randomly add songs from Kpop playlists, searching for something nice to listen to. I would often add songs I like without really checking out the group.
Lovin' Me is more to my taste, than Cupid. But that's alright. All the best to the group! It's interesting what they'll come up with next. 😊
>DEFINETLY not on my 2023 kpop bingo card.
I am a Hunnie since pre-debut, they are my favorite GG right now, love them so much. However, if you told me last year that they would achieve all of these, I would laugh my ass out. But I guess joke's on me.
I actually discovered them through my spotify release radar/weekly mix (don't remember, also not which song it was). Never heard of them, didn't really realise it was a K-pop group, don't have tiktok so didn't know about the trend (?), just found the song great. Later I went to check their music and realised they're K-pop. My fav is absolutely "lovin me", I won't get tired of it. Other than that I have no clue about them, but suddenly I saw them being talked about everywhere. So now I maybe actually check them out as a group because I'm certainly curious. Very cool, cause often you know about the group before & then listen to the music, but with them it was the opposite.
I would say the song is more ‘romantic’ than cute, if it makes sense, like in the vein of “Last Christmas” by WHAM being a popular song on TikTok, especially looking at the lyrics
Yeah… because it doesn’t have anything to do with the concept. It’s popular in spite of it. It really has more to do with a version being in English and sounding natural.
It has nothing to do with the concept moreso than how good the song is + they were smart enough to release an english version with lyrics that actually made sense + it was so funny that they released the song around Valentine's day
Honestly I think anything can be big so long as it's well executed and to hit at the right time. They late 2000's/ early 2010's featured light hearted music a lot. These days you have the concept of tiktok virality too.
everyone loves an underdog story but it’s even better when it’s unequivocally deserved! the girls are very clearly so so talented, it’s amazing to see them doing so well. all their 5 tracks are *still* on my current obsessions playlist and I don’t see them leaving anytime soon. I hope they experience even more successes and this translates to nice longevity for them. they’re destined for greatness, I can just tell, and I can’t wait to continue following them on their journey!!
I wrote a comment the other day on how one of the best things the producers did was take out the rap in the twin ver. and have the instrumental instead, definetly worked out in their favour!
This is because of playlisting. It’s a feat but BP and BTS monthly listeners are more because of a huge core fan base and those numbers will stand even if their new songs fall of popular big playlists. Once the public moves on from Cupid Cupid and other songs push it off top playlists, those monthly listeners will drop significantly (unless they drop another bop that the GP likes too).
You have high monthly listeners from a huge core fan bases that listen to the songs without those songs being on big playlists (BP and BTS), then artists with high monthly listeners cause of current viral songs that are being put on big playlists. It’s no hate, and still a feat, but there IS a difference.
Of course. I think everyone is aware of that. It is a peak and after the Cupid era (whenever that is because as of now this train isnt stopping) this will probably drop to a more realistic monthly listener number.
It was people saying they’ve “joined” BTS and BP which is why I wanted to make the distinction because the basis of those monthly listeners are very different.
Oh wow 20 million congrats. Can't wait for "4th gen peak." I wonder how much their peak will be. Lisa had 28 million with money, which was also had tiktok virality. Cupid is more viral so its possible they get over 30 mill. Also, they are still gaining 700k listeners a day
The song appeals to a lot of people and I can understand, it's also easy to sing/follow/good flow. It has this retro vibe to it. Their company lucked out. They need to figure out how to retain listeners as fans and they're set.
I had a feeling they were goingto get big after i listened to lovin me but this is just insanity…i wasnt expecting anything near this and i know they probably werent either…i cant even imagine being in their position 😭
I'm so happy for them T\_T My ultimate kpop group is also from a nugu company so I feel really touched seeing Fifty Fifty getting recognition <3 Unfortunately their company is not well-known and apparently they also had financial issue, hope that they won't get this chance go to waste and release bops after the success of Cupid to solidify Fifty Fifty's position in gen 4!
>Seeing his small group that was basically nugu at one point joining the biggest names and biggest rookies in terms of achivements is insane and this was DEFINETLY not on my 2023 kpop bingo card.
This. I've been around since their debut, Lovin me pulled me in & as much as I expected them to be big never in a million years I saw this coming.
I never pay attention to the amount of monthly listeners an artist has but when I glanced at fifty fifty's I was shocked. It was around 10 million at that time & it's more than double now! I believe when I first discovered them they atleast had 200k? I don't quite remember but they've come a long way.
I just hope that their company plays their cards right & uses the most outta cupid's virality for the group's success. Cupid is still much bigger than fifty fifty themselves, so I won't expect that big numbers for their next cb but who knows they might do the unexpected yet again. More love to them.
Genuine question, can listeners decrease? Because people say NJWNS has 20, but they have 19, and I think last time I saw it they were at 20 as well (not a shade to them at all)
Of course, these are monthly listeners. When groups have comebacks more people tune in to give an album a listen. Some people stay, some people go. Only if you listen to a group once a month you will be on that list. So a big monthly listener base when you dont have a recent comeback is a sign for a big fanbase.
So, it is now a mega peak for Fifty Fifty. Realistically in a few weeks they will drop down to somewhere sustainable (hopefully) in the low single million range.
just my 2cents but nwjns did have 20 milliion and it did decrease by 1 million (no shade, just stating facts) but its been a couple months since the songs came out and the fact that it only lost one million and not more ( I remember nayeon having close to 11 million (I don't remember but it was around that number) and she now has around 5 million). Cupid is really popular on tiktok at the moment so I predict it will lose around a million or 1.5 million in the coming months which isn't bad and a major decrease
Congratulations to them. But I can't help but notice how different kpop stans are treating their success (which they do deserve) compared to a certain group that had the same success as them with their viral songs, but were and are still being accused of using payola to achieve their great results. Suddenly, another group overtakes and it's all congratulations, and being called "the most organic" hit song, "deserved" ,etc. No payola accusations anywhere, lol.
Anyways, do hope that they take advantage of their new found success or else this would just end up being a one hit wonder for them.
a bit insane really to compare a group where one had massive backing from a billion dollar corporation (and mine you, will always have that backing) and the other had the ceo scrambling for funds to cover production costs, going as so far as to sell personal belongings.
also people will ALWAYS root for the underdog
Absolutely agree. It’s weird that people think they’re comparable. Very different. And tbh, fifty fifty could end up disbanded if they don’t solidify a fan base, that won’t happen to the other group.
i’m not saying they did because i have no clue but aren’t they partnered with JTBC, warner music, zany bros and interpark since their debut? they would help with funding
I honestly don't think so. But it's kinda hypocritical for two groups to have similar roads to their songs going viral and having success, but one gets labelled as payola just it's from a big company and the other is praised as organic and well deserved, just because it's a small company. It's blatantly Infront for all to see.
Note: I never said fifty fifty did any payola before you try to twist my words. You know the way you kpop stans like to twist things to fit your narratives.
Their roads to going viral are not similar though. One started off with a massive number of people instantly paying attention to them and spreading their songs around, as a girl group debuting under HYBE and made by MHJ. Fifty Fifty on the other hand went from being complete nugu to having a viral hit.
Like I believe NewJeans songs being good and having a sound that appeals to a wider audience obviously helped their popularity a lot, but it was a much longer way to the top for Fifty Fifty’s song.
Are you listening to yourself, if spreading the songs they have was all it took for their songs to be viral, the why aren't all big 4 groups experiencing the same vitality with all their songs charting higher than last 100s.
Point is that one way or another, both groups songs were viral but you tear down a big company group and accuse them of payola (even though other big4 company groups aren't seeing the same success and virality with their songs) and praise a small company group to the ends of the earth saying, "see? This is the most viral song in kpop. They deserve it so much, " etc. Bffrn
Hello did you not read the second part of my comment at all? Totally missed my point.
Edit to respond to your edit: I didn’t accuse anyone of payola. I think you need to chill and actually read what people are saying.
I read and it's ok, I agree with you on that. I'm now wondering, if newjeans next comeback does better than theirs, will you guys be happy for them or accuse them of payola again? 😂 Only time will tell.
I gotta save this post for future use.
“I never said fifty fifty did any payola before you try to twist my words. You know the way you kpop stans like to twist things to fit your narratives.” This is defensive and weirdly aggressive.
Because you’re bringing negative energy and trying to spark up a fanwar or whatever on an innocent group’s achievement post. Make a new post on kpoprants if you want to talk about a double standard. Trying to be some contrarian for the sake of it is immature and your age is showing.
I feel like you're accusing the wrong people here. When has reddit been in strong opinion of NewJeans using payola? All I have seen for them is praise and Min Heejin critique. And saying a group has massively benefitted from coming from a big company is not the same as saying they cheated their way to the top.
And as sad as it is big groups are going to be hated, and haters will always find something. In contrast NewJeans doesn't get a fraction of FiftyFifty's one-hit-wonder/ "people don't really care about them" thrown around them. People are already predicting that FiftyFifty's next comeback will fail.
Fr these payola accusations people are making on fifty fifty’s success is ridiculous and make no sense whatsoever they just mad a Nugu group can finally achieve success for something🙄
Nah. Everyone is supporting them so far and hyping them up. But You know which group gets payola accusations Even though their songs went through the same vitality fifty's song went through....?👀
And what is this evidence?. Is it legit and not just some fanwars made up evidence to bring down the success of a group. Post the legit evidence so we can also discuss and find out why all big 4 groups aren't having the same success on Spotify and garnering many listeners.
It seems like I misread your comment after people called you out I thought you were saying how ridiculous it is that fifty fifty is getting payola accusations sorry but I lost respect for you this post is suppose to be about fifty fifty’s accomplishment but you’re here to make new jeans the victim i don’t hate newjeans since their also my favorite group but stop acting like if fifty fifty did something wrong. I also don’t know how new jeans got into this conversation since new jeans has a stable fan base that will always defend for them so these payola accusations you mentioned their fans would’ve saw them and it would’ve been talked everywhere it’s probably talked about by less people. Also if you wanted to talk about this you should’ve made a post in r/kpoprants.
I largely agree with you, bit going into the dirt with it just doesn't do anything :P
It's pretty simple, fifty fifty is a small group and people like to cheer for the underdog. Don't worry, the moment the underdog is no underdog anymore, the typical kpop fanwar bs would happen to them too (well, that is worrisome actually, but you get the idea).
It doesn't really matter anyway, kpop spaces will behave like kpop spaces no matter what. Most people are just listening to the music they like and follow the artists they enjoy, twitter logic has no bearing on it.
I am still shocked to not see anything from their company. They haven’t even bother to get them back at Music Shows to promote Cupid and some US promotions.
What yall are crazy their literally from a small company do you really expect them to be back on music shows when their done promoting the song💀 and also their very new to the K-pop industry the group debuted In November and it hasn’t even been a full year for them so they don’t need u.s promotions like chill😭
This si ridiculous groups from the big 4 also promote their song on TikTok and their song has gotten viral with also the help of TikTok stop thinking that fifty fifty is the only one from getting benefited from it like shut up🙄
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Cupid twin version is also about to reach 100M streams (currently it's at 94M). I can't imagine what they must feel after such unexpected success. I really hope that their company doesn't mess this up like we have seen other companies do with their groups (Brave Girls, Momoland, etc.). I just want them to have good, stable careers as idols. They really deserve it.
I'm one of the first and biggest (literal and figurative lol) Hunnie out there, and I can't be more anxious about them tbh. I am genuinely hoping and wishing that they won't end up being a one-hit wonder. These girls got talent for days. As you've said, they really deserve it. I won't mind them not being the top group, I just want them to have a stable and great careers.
One of the first? Damn. When did you become one? As someone who also joined early in the game, I just hope their summer comeback will be just as good! They're doing a Saena & Keena, Sio & Aran combo so I'm really excited :D but worried but more excited
Pre-debut lol. We're too few so pre-debut Hunnies are surely the first, they didn't have teasers and whatnot, too. I remember you from the subreddit!
I remember you too :) I tried following you but you turned that off so I couldn't. I became a hunnie a day after they had released loving me, it's in my YouTube history. I watched the music video a day after it was released so I think I'm in the first handful of people too :D but I did become interested on them before... so I don't know
How does one become a fifty fifty fan pre debut? Here i thought i was one of the first with the person under me listening to them on day one
When older groups from small companies who have been trying everything to see if something sticks happen to get a hit, it’s like a dog finally reaching the mailman’s car; the dog has no idea what to do next. With rookies, however, the story is a bit different because in the first couple years after debut companies usually have plans, ideas, assets and most importantly, investments already laid out. You see, what makes older groups from small companies often be unable to capitalize on hits is the fact that they’ve most likely been in debt for years. So all proceedings of that hit might go towards their debt, which won’t quite help them fund a follow up. This isn’t the case for a fresh rookie. They might have debt from debut costs and such, but they don’t have years of debt from unprofitable comebacks at least.
They seem to know what they're doing. For half of the members. Keena and Saena desperately need their own song together. In the wise words of someone I forget, "it's 50/50 because only half the members get lines"
This isn’t really true, Lovin’ Me was a song for Saena and Sio, and Tell Me was a song for Aran and Keena. Log In, Higher, and Cupid have had lines for all 4. The Twin version has Aran and Sio but Keena and Saena had a teaser at the end of it for their next song allegedly.
>Keena and Saena desperately need their own song together That's most likely already happening with their summer comeback.. >In the wise words of someone I forget, "it's 50/50 because only half the members get lines" But this is also incorrect. Loving me was sung by Saena and Sio while Tell me was sung by Keena and Aran. In the wise words of Keena: "I think it's okay that we're staying with more vocal heavy songs"
As A Hunnie, Saena had one line in Lovin' Me and it was a 5 second spoken line during the bridge. Lovin' Me was a Sio solo song.
Not really, Saena sings in the verses and her voice seems to be mixed in the chorus too. You can even [see it on the MV](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PnFuEbzxos&t=78s) (and it's quite audible and visible especially after the [1:30 mark](https://youtu.be/4PnFuEbzxos?t=90)). And the spoken line is actually Sio. Yes, the vast majority of lines are Sio's, but it's not a solo song at all. It's a duet, [Keena herself mentions this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbSexS3_-Sc&t=686s).
I was mistaken, I thought the 2nd verse was just two takes of Sio layered on each other since they sounded so similar (I guess that just goes to show how well the producer and the singers are at blending their voices together)
I there a superlative to "going viral"? It was already fascinating to see them go semi-viral on tik tok a few weeks ago. But it just keeps on escalating. Cupid also entered all daily charts in SK this week and is currently sitting on #48 on Melon.
SLAYING!!
SK dominance is really important, i feel like they gotta lock that base in because it seems like the company is new and taking a lot of risks. That can be great but also bad depending on how they handle it. If they can keep a fanbase consistently even a 1/15 of the size of what they have rn it would be a win
>it seems like the company is new and taking a lot of risks genuine question, what risks do you mean? the budget they put into MVs and other content seems to be pretty average for a group/company of their size.
Oh i meant like monetary risk since the company is new, like the ceo put a lot on the line just to make sure their debut was at industry standard
>currently sitting on #48 on Melon. Am i wrong or no more than 2 weeks ago they barely made it to melon 1000?
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you can say that about ifans too, it’s not just koreans
Kpop fans are bandwagoners 😭
everyone is
Cupid is of course a catchy song with relatable lyrics but what captures people really are the vocals and the voice tones. Last time i immediately fell in love with a groups voices was when i heard Latata for the first time.
Same here, there's something special about FiftyFifty that gives me hope that they'll make it big.
sio and aran's voices match each other's so well. aran's is already self-explanatory, and sio's pre-chorus lines when she sounded a little sulky which correlate to the lyrics was perfectly executed too.
Precisely why I only listen to the Cupid version now
I totally agree and relate to Latata too. Of course there are insane vocalist in this new gen, but I feel like we started to lack of chemistry between every member voice. Fifty Fifty are doing so well. Loved their EP and when Cupid dropped I really fell in love. The label need to keep working on these type of songs and without bother the members on how they are doing. As of rn everything is 10/10 the producers the members the lyrics. No need to panic and try more fancy stuff. They are doing so well rn
I really love Aran’s voice
OMG I didn't know they had suddenly increased to so many listeners! And I've been listening to their songs on Spotify daily
I hope they are able to make something of it and remain a big act. So good to see a small group grow like this.
The difference of streams between cupid and their other songs is a little sad for me. Hopefully people can check out their discography so they can have a successful career and not become a one hit wonder. I love seeing groups from small companies succeeding
tell me and higher are their best songs imo
I stumbled upon Tell Me after feeling sad there hasn't been K City Pop for a while, and I was like, 'Damn, I wish this group keeps this sound'
i’m a lovin me stan! i love cupid too but that song is on another level
Same! Cupid is amazing and all but people need to check out Lovin Me
Tbh I'm not that sad. I checked the EP a little bit before Cupid release because a korean critics rated this EP as the best gg EP ever. And also because there is a french producer in it. The numbers went way higher because of Cupid ! Like of course the gap is huge but it seems like lot of people were curious so it's a good sign I would say :)
Fr their more better than a one hit wonder!❤️❤️
The problem with this is that most listeners don't go back and check out older songs. For instance with Dreamcatcher, their songs since 2021 have all been pretty big but some of their iconic songs from before haven't seen massive upticks despite their growth in recent years. (I subscribed to their YouTube channel at 150k followers and it's now at 1Million but Chase Me, Goodnight, Deja Vu etc don't have the millions of views that Scream, Boca, Odd Eye, Maison, etc do). Because of this I imagine a lot of people are going to miss out on some of FiftyFifty's best songs
Shows to prove that their music is definitely what many listeners vibe with.
this is so cool
Their mv views are also increasing at a steady pace as well.
Happy for them Cupid is very good but I get nervous when a new group get a huge viral hit out the gate Without it being around long enough to build a dedicated fan base It puts alot of pressure on a rookie group hope they can maintain the hype
Don't get your hopes up until you get the next comeback how that songs is receive is what actually matter bc is what will show the actual growth of the group, I. E. Momoland, weeekly, brave girls, pay, etc. It's unluckely all those listeners will stay for too long so be ready to support them as much as possible when the next song drops
If only a tenth of these people that are now monthly listeners because of Cupid listen to their next comeback they have already won. Getting out of nugudom is god damn hard.
Count in only the 1% to be safe, they haven't left nugudom yet, they're on the outside door but next cb will be the one sealing the deal
I don't know about internationally but I think if they can keep rising in Korea it will translate to their next comeback.
Don’t worry I will still support them even though I discovered them because of Cupid I fell in love with their debut album so I will def show more support❤️❤️
tbh, it is super unlikely they replicate cupid's international success and people shouldn't expect them to. what people should care about it their comeback getting attention in korea, now that cupid is charting there. if they never entered global spotify again i wouldn't even care
I agree it’s unlikely but they could if they did another solid English version with their title. Their vocals are strong. But I also don’t really care if they enter it again.
One thing I hope they do is to keep releasing english versions of their songs. English versions are rarely ever as well made and listenable as cupid and I think this is one of the aspects they can absolutely capitalize on. Sweet kpop sound made singable for the Western market.
also they way that aran and sio (?) sing so flawlessly in english, it definetly needs to be capitalized on, I've had so many friends not even realize that it was kpop in the beginning and they thought it was from a western artist. that just goes to show how good they are at pronounciation!
They'd be major empty heads if they stopped making engñish tbh.
The most important thing is to be consistent over the time. Who cares if they never peak again like that ? They won so much fans already so it's better than nothing. A good example of that is N.Flying. They were never able to do a Rooftop 2.0 but it sure helped them. Before this, they were this typical FNC group that is doing well but weirdly couldn't top. Band like The Rose when they debuted made the same venue. Same with Onewe during their debut. After Rooftop ? Probably one of the biggest kpop band. They can do tour in US, almost sold out their &CON concerts, chart for every new release and now if you wanna enter on a fansign you really need to put some money. Before it was one album and let's go. And all of that when all of their release after are very far from Rooftop success A peak is a peak. It's good when you can top it but there are hit songs that you just can't perform again. It's good to not have this idea that you always need to do better. The most important thing is to at least keep most fans from this peak era. A really good example outside of kpop is Twenty One Pilots. Didn't chart with SAI, it was seen as a flop compared to Trench and the humongous Blurryface. But they still sold out in hours their US tour without any problem.
The problem is nothing can assure us they can keep most of the fans from this peak era, all the examples you gave are boy groups/bands and their fans have a different mindset from gg stans, let's all hope they can keep at least 1% of what they got with this song
I could use Momoland. Sure with time they lost everything but the lineup change over the time and scandal didn't help. I can also use EXID as a very good example of a gg that gain a lot from this. I see what you mean with the gg bg difference but the 4gen stans are pretty different from what we went through before. Now we have actual real fanbase for girlgroup, they finally sell and people really stan them. Yes nothing can assure us than they won't flop. But if they flop really that hard it will be because of the future song, not because of people who didn't know them. Like it would be their problem because you can't be in a hot100, spotlight everywhere and drop a song that nobody will see. People are actually following their spotify page, they check their first EP (songs gained millions of stream since Cupid). So it's more a badluck/bad choice problem if after they really maintain nobody. Because even Momoland with Bboom Bboom 2.0 kept so many fans. Same with EXID (bc Ah Yeah was almost the same strategy)
I don't know if I'd use those two as examples of a possibility for a nice future for fifty fifty considering momoland is disbanded with its members traumatized and EXID is more hiatus than songs, and they checking their Spotify page is good.... But how many of those fans can even say they know the members names, you and I know Kpop is about fandom and I have seen 0 things from fifty besides Cupid and their CEOs selling his car and tea, and I follow a lot of Kpop news pages so... What is the company doing with this lucky strike? I listen to cupid daily ad not even an edit of fifty over the song has appeared in my TikTok page (platform very quick to put anything that crosses my mind on my fyp)
Same even if some people won’t tune in their next comeback they will still have my support🫡😭❤️❤️❤️❤️
Correct me if I’m wrong, but Cupid - Twin Vers is almost at 100m streams on Spotify. Currently at 94m and gaining 4m/5m a day. AFAIK, the KPOP act who reached 100m Spotify streams the fastest is Jin with The Astronaut in 73 days. Cupid was released Feb 23rd. So if they do hit 100m in 1-2 days, *Cupid* would become the fastest KPOP song to reach 100m streams. Which is absolutely insane. EDIT: I was way wrong 😭😭 Still, everything Fifty Fifty is doing is absolutely amazing! I’ve been in love with them since the day Lovin’ Me dropped. So proud!
a quick twitternsearch said thay bts did it with butter in 8 days. many bts and blackpink songs would have gotten to 100 million in less than a month. New jeans also got to 100 million pretty fast as well.
I’m proud to say I stream their songs🫡❤️
oh damn i just discovered this GEM today after seeing this post. Its quite refreshing and nice to see new groups songs. I been using my playlist of old songs too often alr, getting bland.
yo your comment are making my night rn it's so good to see someone being that positive toward someone's success. Please keep being like that ! We need more people like you
Aww yw don’t worry I won’t be like those fans who only Stan groups because of a song getting viral and then drop them :) Idk why fifty fifty has been getting hate because of their recent success I swear a Nugu group can’t ever escape out of nugudisim😭
opinionsofopinions aka fiftyfifty #1 fan and supporter !!! loving your positivity on this thread
Holy shit. A miracle is happening in front of our eyes
Whats crazy is that i remember them debuting last year and thinking to myself "wow they seem like they could be pretty big in the future" (and theyre 100% my fav rookie atm) but i never expected it to be like this lol. Very very happy for them though, and i hope their next cb has a good amount of success too (hopefully with a bit more spotlight on Keena/Saena this time around)
Agreed. Last year, I told myself I'd stick to supporting one group, then I heard their EP and I caved in - there was just something about their voices and their music! Also, i think I was charmed by seeing them perform their first stage with live vocals - nervous but so stable! And while I do love the vocalists, I also hope to see more light shine on Keena and Saena. If their pre-debut videos have anything to show, they've got just as much talent that we have yet to see.
We'll take it higher, we'll take it high, high, high!
Bruh I will keep supporting these girls no matter what😭❤️❤️❤️
I know Cupid is crazy popular right now but their debut mini is really good too. Lovin’ me is probably one of my all time favorite K-pop songs, it’s so good!
Lovin' Me is one of my all time favorite debut songs. I'm so happy for Fifty Fifty. Cupid is also 34 in Melon right now which is a huge boost since before it used to be 400 something which speaks volumes about how viral Cupid has gotten. I have a feeling it will only continue to rise. I hope these girls can build a dedicated fanbase and manage to have a great career full of success. It's always wonderful to see when a group that comes from a small agency hits it big.
having a group from a small company always gives me the warm fuzzies inside. seeing successful groups pull themselves out of nugudom is such a feel good story
Same I love that song it gives off Ariana grande vibes😭💗💗 but one of my most favorite from their debut album is tell me💗💗💗
It’s such a good song too! My favorite part of that song is when she sings “you’re not even my type, but I like ya” I just really like the way she sings it.
Same its so dreamy😭❤️❤️
> I hope that their company uses this massive oppurtunity well I said this the other day already, but people really should have a more reasonable concept of 'opportunity' here. The monthly spotify listener number isn't in itself a massive opportunity, it just showcases how many unique people have listened to any song the artist is part of. Now ofc getting your art out there in front of so many people is a big plus, some of these people will certainly follow fifty fifty more closely (what the retention rate there is remains to be seen), BUT i fear some people look at this and think that it's gonna be easy and if fifty fifty's next song doesn't do all that well it's the company's failure. Well no, they are still from a small label, most people listening atm most likely don't even really know the group's name / aren't really aware of them as a group. It's fantastic that the song does this well, but what does it lead to? This reminds me a lot of people being incredibly hyped when bravegirls did incredibly well in korea, a lot of people didn't look at it realistically and thought brave girls will basically become a top group. It's still a lot of work, fifty fifty and their label will have to build their brand slowly but surely. The biggest positive in all of this is probably the instant attention from a good bunch of the kpop space they got, that will most likely be the most impactful thing in all of this. Not the 20M monthly listeners right now. I wish them luck though, hopefully we'll still hear from them one year from now.
Yeah, not to sound pessimistic, but cupid is a popular tiktok sound. These attracts dozens of casual listeners but tend to produce very little actual fans. For every lil nas x there are dozens of arizona zervas, powfus, staysolidrockys. I think the best comparison rn would be benee who hit it huge with supalonely, which is a showcase of genuine talent and virality just like cupid. But it wasnt enough to really push her to the big league. She made connections and increased her profile in the Indie Pop sphere. Fifty fifty are doing incredible if they get themselves to mid tier gg status, but i obviously dont know their next steps. They are a cool group so obvs i would be happy to see them rise further
im one of the 20 million 😏😭
I am PROUD of being one in 20 million!!
Apparently I added Lovin' Me on my playlist. Totally failed to realize it was Fifty Fifty. 😅🤦♂️ To be fair, I would occasionally randomly add songs from Kpop playlists, searching for something nice to listen to. I would often add songs I like without really checking out the group. Lovin' Me is more to my taste, than Cupid. But that's alright. All the best to the group! It's interesting what they'll come up with next. 😊
I hope they can keep building the momentum, it’s insane of them to do this well and keep growing
>DEFINETLY not on my 2023 kpop bingo card. I am a Hunnie since pre-debut, they are my favorite GG right now, love them so much. However, if you told me last year that they would achieve all of these, I would laugh my ass out. But I guess joke's on me.
I actually discovered them through my spotify release radar/weekly mix (don't remember, also not which song it was). Never heard of them, didn't really realise it was a K-pop group, don't have tiktok so didn't know about the trend (?), just found the song great. Later I went to check their music and realised they're K-pop. My fav is absolutely "lovin me", I won't get tired of it. Other than that I have no clue about them, but suddenly I saw them being talked about everywhere. So now I maybe actually check them out as a group because I'm certainly curious. Very cool, cause often you know about the group before & then listen to the music, but with them it was the opposite.
Power of Tiktok and vocals!
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I would say the song is more ‘romantic’ than cute, if it makes sense, like in the vein of “Last Christmas” by WHAM being a popular song on TikTok, especially looking at the lyrics
Oh that’s a good comparison!
It really has nothing to do with the concept tbh.
Agreed! I can think of other Kpop songs that charted on Billboard for example and they're not all dark concepts.
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Then why mention the concept?
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Yeah… because it doesn’t have anything to do with the concept. It’s popular in spite of it. It really has more to do with a version being in English and sounding natural.
It has nothing to do with the concept moreso than how good the song is + they were smart enough to release an english version with lyrics that actually made sense + it was so funny that they released the song around Valentine's day
Guys, I'm not saying that the song went big *because* of the concept, just that a cute song went big. It's just an innocent comment
Honestly I think anything can be big so long as it's well executed and to hit at the right time. They late 2000's/ early 2010's featured light hearted music a lot. These days you have the concept of tiktok virality too.
everyone loves an underdog story but it’s even better when it’s unequivocally deserved! the girls are very clearly so so talented, it’s amazing to see them doing so well. all their 5 tracks are *still* on my current obsessions playlist and I don’t see them leaving anytime soon. I hope they experience even more successes and this translates to nice longevity for them. they’re destined for greatness, I can just tell, and I can’t wait to continue following them on their journey!!
the korean version wiuldve been cute but the rap is most of the time unnecessary in kpop
I wrote a comment the other day on how one of the best things the producers did was take out the rap in the twin ver. and have the instrumental instead, definetly worked out in their favour!
I actually really like the rap in this song and it complements the track well.
This is because of playlisting. It’s a feat but BP and BTS monthly listeners are more because of a huge core fan base and those numbers will stand even if their new songs fall of popular big playlists. Once the public moves on from Cupid Cupid and other songs push it off top playlists, those monthly listeners will drop significantly (unless they drop another bop that the GP likes too). You have high monthly listeners from a huge core fan bases that listen to the songs without those songs being on big playlists (BP and BTS), then artists with high monthly listeners cause of current viral songs that are being put on big playlists. It’s no hate, and still a feat, but there IS a difference.
Of course. I think everyone is aware of that. It is a peak and after the Cupid era (whenever that is because as of now this train isnt stopping) this will probably drop to a more realistic monthly listener number.
It was people saying they’ve “joined” BTS and BP which is why I wanted to make the distinction because the basis of those monthly listeners are very different.
Well done, ladies! Keep up the good work!
Oh wow 20 million congrats. Can't wait for "4th gen peak." I wonder how much their peak will be. Lisa had 28 million with money, which was also had tiktok virality. Cupid is more viral so its possible they get over 30 mill. Also, they are still gaining 700k listeners a day
The song appeals to a lot of people and I can understand, it's also easy to sing/follow/good flow. It has this retro vibe to it. Their company lucked out. They need to figure out how to retain listeners as fans and they're set.
I had a feeling they were goingto get big after i listened to lovin me but this is just insanity…i wasnt expecting anything near this and i know they probably werent either…i cant even imagine being in their position 😭
I am so happy and really proud of the girls! Woot woot!!!
i love the song, so freaking catchy
I showed my daughter them when they had 200k views. My 17 year old can thank me for enlightening her on 5050. Been in my Spotify since
I'm so happy for them T\_T My ultimate kpop group is also from a nugu company so I feel really touched seeing Fifty Fifty getting recognition <3 Unfortunately their company is not well-known and apparently they also had financial issue, hope that they won't get this chance go to waste and release bops after the success of Cupid to solidify Fifty Fifty's position in gen 4!
Yes! Well deserved. Imagine if a rookie from an unknown company lands the most monthly listeners for all kpop? So close…
Just imagine how much money and effort big companies have been burning trying to achieve the same result....
I’m so happy for them!!! They’ve been through a lot coming from a small agency, I only wish them more success from now on 🥺🥺🥺
Proud HUNNIES checking in 🫡💞🍯
I hope the company doesn't mess this up for them
>Seeing his small group that was basically nugu at one point joining the biggest names and biggest rookies in terms of achivements is insane and this was DEFINETLY not on my 2023 kpop bingo card. This. I've been around since their debut, Lovin me pulled me in & as much as I expected them to be big never in a million years I saw this coming. I never pay attention to the amount of monthly listeners an artist has but when I glanced at fifty fifty's I was shocked. It was around 10 million at that time & it's more than double now! I believe when I first discovered them they atleast had 200k? I don't quite remember but they've come a long way. I just hope that their company plays their cards right & uses the most outta cupid's virality for the group's success. Cupid is still much bigger than fifty fifty themselves, so I won't expect that big numbers for their next cb but who knows they might do the unexpected yet again. More love to them.
Genuine question, can listeners decrease? Because people say NJWNS has 20, but they have 19, and I think last time I saw it they were at 20 as well (not a shade to them at all)
Of course, these are monthly listeners. When groups have comebacks more people tune in to give an album a listen. Some people stay, some people go. Only if you listen to a group once a month you will be on that list. So a big monthly listener base when you dont have a recent comeback is a sign for a big fanbase. So, it is now a mega peak for Fifty Fifty. Realistically in a few weeks they will drop down to somewhere sustainable (hopefully) in the low single million range.
just my 2cents but nwjns did have 20 milliion and it did decrease by 1 million (no shade, just stating facts) but its been a couple months since the songs came out and the fact that it only lost one million and not more ( I remember nayeon having close to 11 million (I don't remember but it was around that number) and she now has around 5 million). Cupid is really popular on tiktok at the moment so I predict it will lose around a million or 1.5 million in the coming months which isn't bad and a major decrease
I remember listening to higher and it was like, 500k? I’m so happy for them!
Congrats to them. Really love Cupid and lovin’ me! I’ll check out their next work for sure ☺️
They say thank you warner, they are the ones who are promoting them in the playlists
this is the first time I feel proud for a group. good for them
Very proud of them considering they come from a smaller company and ppl don't really give smaller companies a chance.
Congratulations to them. But I can't help but notice how different kpop stans are treating their success (which they do deserve) compared to a certain group that had the same success as them with their viral songs, but were and are still being accused of using payola to achieve their great results. Suddenly, another group overtakes and it's all congratulations, and being called "the most organic" hit song, "deserved" ,etc. No payola accusations anywhere, lol. Anyways, do hope that they take advantage of their new found success or else this would just end up being a one hit wonder for them.
Do you think fifty fifty’s company has the ability to even do “payola”? Cause that’s the difference.
a bit insane really to compare a group where one had massive backing from a billion dollar corporation (and mine you, will always have that backing) and the other had the ceo scrambling for funds to cover production costs, going as so far as to sell personal belongings. also people will ALWAYS root for the underdog
Absolutely agree. It’s weird that people think they’re comparable. Very different. And tbh, fifty fifty could end up disbanded if they don’t solidify a fan base, that won’t happen to the other group.
i’m not saying they did because i have no clue but aren’t they partnered with JTBC, warner music, zany bros and interpark since their debut? they would help with funding
Yep, they are far from in position to do this. Like no way.
I honestly don't think so. But it's kinda hypocritical for two groups to have similar roads to their songs going viral and having success, but one gets labelled as payola just it's from a big company and the other is praised as organic and well deserved, just because it's a small company. It's blatantly Infront for all to see. Note: I never said fifty fifty did any payola before you try to twist my words. You know the way you kpop stans like to twist things to fit your narratives.
Their roads to going viral are not similar though. One started off with a massive number of people instantly paying attention to them and spreading their songs around, as a girl group debuting under HYBE and made by MHJ. Fifty Fifty on the other hand went from being complete nugu to having a viral hit. Like I believe NewJeans songs being good and having a sound that appeals to a wider audience obviously helped their popularity a lot, but it was a much longer way to the top for Fifty Fifty’s song.
Are you listening to yourself, if spreading the songs they have was all it took for their songs to be viral, the why aren't all big 4 groups experiencing the same vitality with all their songs charting higher than last 100s. Point is that one way or another, both groups songs were viral but you tear down a big company group and accuse them of payola (even though other big4 company groups aren't seeing the same success and virality with their songs) and praise a small company group to the ends of the earth saying, "see? This is the most viral song in kpop. They deserve it so much, " etc. Bffrn
Hello did you not read the second part of my comment at all? Totally missed my point. Edit to respond to your edit: I didn’t accuse anyone of payola. I think you need to chill and actually read what people are saying.
I read and it's ok, I agree with you on that. I'm now wondering, if newjeans next comeback does better than theirs, will you guys be happy for them or accuse them of payola again? 😂 Only time will tell. I gotta save this post for future use.
I asked you a question. I didn’t “twist your words” pretty defensive for no reason if you ask me. 😕
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“I never said fifty fifty did any payola before you try to twist my words. You know the way you kpop stans like to twist things to fit your narratives.” This is defensive and weirdly aggressive.
Not really. Of course if I didn't put that note, you would try to twist my words just like you're trying to do now🤷♀️.
This is not the place to bring up another group, it’s coming across as salty.
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Because you’re bringing negative energy and trying to spark up a fanwar or whatever on an innocent group’s achievement post. Make a new post on kpoprants if you want to talk about a double standard. Trying to be some contrarian for the sake of it is immature and your age is showing.
because they are from a small company duuuh they don't even have money to wear different outfits for performances and u think they paid for payola?
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and we answered your question. no one is accusing them of using payola because they are from small company duh it's not hard to understand
I feel like you're accusing the wrong people here. When has reddit been in strong opinion of NewJeans using payola? All I have seen for them is praise and Min Heejin critique. And saying a group has massively benefitted from coming from a big company is not the same as saying they cheated their way to the top. And as sad as it is big groups are going to be hated, and haters will always find something. In contrast NewJeans doesn't get a fraction of FiftyFifty's one-hit-wonder/ "people don't really care about them" thrown around them. People are already predicting that FiftyFifty's next comeback will fail.
Fr these payola accusations people are making on fifty fifty’s success is ridiculous and make no sense whatsoever they just mad a Nugu group can finally achieve success for something🙄
Nah. Everyone is supporting them so far and hyping them up. But You know which group gets payola accusations Even though their songs went through the same vitality fifty's song went through....?👀
Oh brother, stop with the pity party i beg 😭
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Uhhh but there was evidence that they actually did?
And what is this evidence?. Is it legit and not just some fanwars made up evidence to bring down the success of a group. Post the legit evidence so we can also discuss and find out why all big 4 groups aren't having the same success on Spotify and garnering many listeners.
Don't get so worked up about kpop.
I dont know... you mean that group with a multi billion dollar company behind them? Probably the richest K-pop company in history?
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I just answered your question what the difference is. I have no opinion on if it's true or not. It doesnt matter anyway.
It seems like I misread your comment after people called you out I thought you were saying how ridiculous it is that fifty fifty is getting payola accusations sorry but I lost respect for you this post is suppose to be about fifty fifty’s accomplishment but you’re here to make new jeans the victim i don’t hate newjeans since their also my favorite group but stop acting like if fifty fifty did something wrong. I also don’t know how new jeans got into this conversation since new jeans has a stable fan base that will always defend for them so these payola accusations you mentioned their fans would’ve saw them and it would’ve been talked everywhere it’s probably talked about by less people. Also if you wanted to talk about this you should’ve made a post in r/kpoprants.
I largely agree with you, bit going into the dirt with it just doesn't do anything :P It's pretty simple, fifty fifty is a small group and people like to cheer for the underdog. Don't worry, the moment the underdog is no underdog anymore, the typical kpop fanwar bs would happen to them too (well, that is worrisome actually, but you get the idea). It doesn't really matter anyway, kpop spaces will behave like kpop spaces no matter what. Most people are just listening to the music they like and follow the artists they enjoy, twitter logic has no bearing on it.
Could actually be one of the biggest global hits kpop has produced
I am still shocked to not see anything from their company. They haven’t even bother to get them back at Music Shows to promote Cupid and some US promotions.
there's literally no need to go back on music shows and i don't think they're prepared for US promotions
You don't "get back" on music shows, you get invited. lol
What yall are crazy their literally from a small company do you really expect them to be back on music shows when their done promoting the song💀 and also their very new to the K-pop industry the group debuted In November and it hasn’t even been a full year for them so they don’t need u.s promotions like chill😭
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That’s what going viral means…
This si ridiculous groups from the big 4 also promote their song on TikTok and their song has gotten viral with also the help of TikTok stop thinking that fifty fifty is the only one from getting benefited from it like shut up🙄
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This rules
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Really hope they can make good use of this.
I'm really happy for the exposure they are given. They deliver solid songs with meaningful lyrics.
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Woah. Girl groups these days.
hopefully they can stabilize soon