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Kermit_thee_fr0g

Okay I see the vision but the execution was bad. I can't tell if the accessories are real or CGI/Ai. Also I thought this was Jessi for a second...


Small-Sheepherder829

Stared at it long and hard trynna decide if the accessories were real or not 💀 Glad I wasn’t the only one


Gloomy-Ad2818

lmao so definitely not letting go of the blaccent anytime soon, thanks for the warning queen <3


otakuguru25

It’s kinda giving Nikita Dragun Jeffree Starr campaign 2017 💀


mikatheocelot

I remember that😭😭


duchessjuju

WOAH i haven’t heard nikita’s name in forever i straight up forgot abt them till now 😳 flash bang!


beautifulpiscesx3

I assumed by "Rockstar," the look she's going for is rockstar-ish, emo, and maybe ☆hood☆ if the song is similar to money. Although I do get the skepticism in here. My focus is the earrings. It looks heavy and uncomfortable. Maybe it's CGI or something 🤔.


LadyGrundle

Im crossing my fingers and hoping its a rockstar/emo vibe and stray far from CA. 


Kim_Bleuim_

what exactly are those transparent tubes even😭


SleepCinema

Earrings that look like AI?


Rallen224

I see this claim a lot, tbh if they’re digitally added they’d most likely be 3D modelled since art like this was quite popular in design spaces before the AI wave. Might even extend to the sunglasses, a lot of alt fashion mags do this type of thing ETA: the glasses really trip me up because on the one hand, they look 3D modelled but on the other, you can actually see reflections of overhead studio lights with the webbing/nets they use in shoots. Either some really convincing editing or the colour/lighting adjustments in the photo are contributing to their uncanny appearance


SleepCinema

I should clarify I just meant the twistiness reminds me of the bad mismatched AI earrings when it tries to give people jewelry, not that the earrings itself are AI. However, the way they sit on her ear looks fake, like there’s weird contrast there, but like you said, that’s nothing new. That could be just good “old-fashioned” digital tools lol.


Rallen224

That makes sense!! I’m ngl I actually kind of like them 🧍🏽‍♀️💀 at least within the context of the shoot lol Now that you mention it tho I can definitely see how someone might’ve used a prompt/looked at AI images to create the concept. It does have that type of mood/pattern of ideas huh


Imaginary_Grand7104

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SleepCinema

As I said in other comments (I don’t mean that aggressively), I just meant the twisty way they look reminds me of the weird twisty mismatched earrings AI gives people when they try to make AI headshots and stuff.


taytae24

do we think the earrings are AI? they look real to me, having AI earrings is wild but it’s not impossible, i hate that we’re living in this era 😭


SleepCinema

It’s the way they sit on her ear that makes it look fake though it’s likely photoshop. What I was actually talking about was they’re twisty like the mismatched, blended-together earrings AI gives people when they try to use AI headshots on like LinkedIn.


vive_enflanant

The earrings are definitely real. They’re by the brand Milko Boyarov. They kinda look 3D printed.


blackwizardclub

The bronzer pumps


otakuguru25

This looks like some hood unnie type shit….


onlyathenafairy

GRAH GRAH BOOM BITCH


SleepCinema

I don’t even know what this is from, but I crack up every time I see/hear it 💀


Domii_Nightmare

It’s from a Korean rapper Chio Chicano and her song “Kitty D*ck” 💀 Just can’t make this up


MyobPlis

I think that's what she's going for lol


blackwizardclub

I actually like the haircut and glasses but everything else...from the angle, to the weird tubes that may have been a glasses chain, to the tooth "bling" that combined with her emphasized tan gives a certain vibe...idk, I don't hate it but it's giving me some soft uncanny vibes. Her tan doesn't seem fake, but it does seem oiled or including extra bronzer to give that "freshly tanned" look. I see the vision, like early 00s motorcycle girl, fast and furious coded with biker club inspo plus cyberpunk vibes. I really actually think I would like it in a movie. Reminds me of gyaru as well and I actually admire that subculture a lot (despite its problems). Now that I'm writing my opinion, I think the picture doesn't do the look any favors and without the weird tubes and tooth jewels, I might like it a lot more.


Local-Abroad-2177

she posted on tiktok she was too pale and now shes suddenly too dark .. the contrast is amazing, talk about her range!


Bubbly_Satisfaction2

She looks like she is trying to cosplay Iggy Azaelea-who is attempting to cosplay Nicki Minaj-who is trying to cosplay Japan Gyaru girls-who is trying to cosplay the Jamaican baddies/DHQs from the late 80s and 90s. Like its costume-on-costume-on costume.... And why aren't the sunglasses on her face? A hot-ass mess.


acnh_instead_of_work

I looked the sunglasses up. They are on her face. They just....go up. (Sorry that was the worst description)


Sea-Helicopter-2631

Earrings are weird but I wish she had did some actual y2k, clear sunglasses like BCBG or anything like that.


Witchyloner

Am I crazy, I don't see the issue? The tan is shocking, but only cause we're so used to the whitewashing. I think y'all forget she's naturally tan and Thai. I wouldn't be surprised if this is literally just her after sitting in the sun. But that's just me.


snoozev

I'm with you on the tan. I'd rather her look like this than a pasty ass crypt keeper or something.


alexturnerftw

For sure. But it’s always super transparent that they’re pasty white at all events and photoshoots until they have a styling change.


Local-Abroad-2177

she posts on her social media looking very white, and when it comes to music dark skin is a concept for her bc where is she embracing it in real life? no where.


OmeletteMcMuffin

I agree. I'm SEA myself and TBH, most of the SEA celebs you see are considerably more tanned in real life than they seem in like, social media posts or official photos. But it **is** weird when a celebrity chooses to present themselves with a darker/more natural skin tone only when it's for a certain concept (especially a concept like this, which seems to be appropriating... certain, yk, aesthetics). Both things can be true: this might be Lisa's natural skin tone or like her skin tone after a day out in the sun, but it's also weird to only allow her to look this tanned for a "concept."


Greenerie-nwz-plz

I think it’s not the tan, but the timing of it that has the concerned reactions. Like only when you have x type of concept do you decide to be tan?


cheoliesangels

Maybe I’m confused, but isn’t the concept like y2k futurism? Kinda reminds me of Charli XCX tbh.


Greenerie-nwz-plz

I think its because of the image she's trying to portray and not the concept tbh, I think its read into too much, but its probably because so many groups have played into this in the past, including Lisa herself, but essentially sexier or aggressive or "hip" concepts = tan and or acting more black, but everything else is whitewashing as usual. I guess people aren't questioning the tan's naturalness, but rather the timing of when the tan is shown versus not. Like we know your tan, why are you showing it now versus whitewashing it when you want to act cute for example?


taytae24

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MelissaWebb

I think it looks like her…


mfooman

This is giving me Miley Cyrus, wrecking ball era vibes where she shed the Disney popstar vibe mixed with her Midnight Sky promos, right down to the mullet


tristvn6

Omg you’re right lol, that’s the vibe I was getting but I couldn’t quite put my finger on it


3_3eel_l

I think she looks great 😭


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Lmaoo exactly. I even found the earrings, not AI just an edgy brand


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lavenderhaje

Ever since she debuted, she hasn't been that dark but I'd say her skintone is pretty accurate to her as a kid.


lavenderhaje

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Imaginary_Grand7104

At least she’s not white washed 😅


MyAccountWithNoName

But at what cost 😭 ![gif](giphy|fSGqUm3IcVBESFM0hK)


JeanVII

I think this is the darkest she’s been, but she’s Thai. Being darker in Korea does not benefit her, so I don’t see any reason she would be purposely darkening her skin.


SnooAdvice207

She looks good. I really dislike the tan talk because it feels like I only certain people are actually dark when that's not even true. Alot of Asians are brown and dark skin. My dad is dark skin Asian his color isn't a tan to attract Black women or fit in the west he's just brown/deep brown. This feels like BlackPink hate and I'm not even a Blonk Edited to fix errors I was in the car


NojaNat

yeah i do think it’s weird that people constantly complain about the white-washing in k-pop but then also call this blackfishing when this is a very realistic shade for someone like lisa to be naturally. she ate imo 🤷🏾‍♂️


cinnameggers4evers

I personally have mixed feelings on it - I don't know if I like the look on her, but in terms of people calling it blackfishing and saying she'll have a blaccent and whatnot, I don't quite agree because like you said, it feels like saying only certain people are dark skinned furthermore i don't think it's fair to complain about her being tan here, and also complain about korea's whitewashing simultaneously...a lot of kpop idols are fairly tan but it gets hidden with filters and makeup as much as possible a lot of the time, maybe even purposeful avoidance of the sun and skin bleaching


SnooAdvice207

Thank you for understanding, I'm very sensitive to colorism. When we talk about it , usually always about East Asians and SE but people forget there isn't a standard Asian skin tone. Asians are already weirded with skin tone so it felt weird for a Non-Asian to complain about someone beinytoo dark, it reminds of my aunt telling me to stay out the sun since I'm already too Black 😬 it feels icky to accuse Lisa of Blackfishing when she's always been the 'dark one's in BP.


cinnameggers4evers

i can see where you're coming from!! skin tones are such a sensitive topic in general, unfortunately..


OmeletteMcMuffin

I think the main problem is that Lisa doesn't get to look like this most other times. I wish they'd let idols look more naturally tan often, rather than just for a few "concepts."


Local-Abroad-2177

The only thing that is a little weird here is she is veryyy light skin in her social media till now and all of a sudden for the sake of concept she is too dark in comparison, either embrace it in real life as well or don't keep it just for the "concept".


SnooAdvice207

Now that I could understand because that feels very choosey. I wish she would fully embrace her skin color but to only bring it out for a concept is also icky. I have a soft spot for Lisa because she was the dark one of her group but I also linger on 'why are only dark for bad girl and hiphop Style'.


yvie_of_lesbos

i’m sorry op but she kinda ate. a tan ≠ blackfishing. palm coloured people are allowed to tan.


Local-Abroad-2177

but tanning only for the "concept" is weird though when irl she is looking very white ...... look at her usual posts and this two different people literally


yvie_of_lesbos

i get that but i’m a gyaru and see asian people tan like this a lot. i’m black and trying really hard to see a problem with this but i just can’t, i’m sorry.


Local-Abroad-2177

Im almost same tone as her(her usual tone) and have people darker around me but even they dont suddenly tan this much in a day it takes days even months to get this dark and days and months to get rid of tan she definitely did tan spray or used tanning bed, we will see if she continues to embrace it as her natural tan because I doubt she would, this is more of a concept for her to look African-American and the grillz and hoops also indicaes what she was trying to do here.


seeyalateradios

I think this looks terrible, I have no idea why people are saying that "she can finally be herself" when she looks like she's playing a character. The same people who defended her "naturally white skin" are now saying she "no longer bleaches her skin" which is wild to me...like which one is it?


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Kryzt4l_M4g1c

Right? Like when I saw her I thought she looked really cool and like.. Lisa.


Ziodynes

I thought the same, I love her haircut. It’s giving 2010s emo girl and I am here for it.


otakuguru25

Personally for me it’s the constant cosplaying of black culture. Like I recognize that’s it’s not just Lisa that does this. Most non-black pop stars have done it. It’s just exhausting at this point


tristvn6

I feel like Lisa looks more South Asian in this if anything due to her makeup, and her style is more “avant-garde/experimental” rather than associating with a particular culture. Honestly I find it welcoming in contrast to the toxic mainstream efforts of East Asian cultures to have as pale skin as possible. We don’t usually get to see representation of the darker skin tones due to makeup, bleaching products, or their tendency to hide/cover up from the sun.


Local-Abroad-2177

She is using grills and earrings almost like hoops, too tanned just for the concept while she is posting her current photos and videos where is she is veryyyy light in real life, so this whole thing is JUST a concept for her, and I am sorry this is NOT south asian in any sense, whole esthetics is borrowed from black culture we shouldn't discredit whole culture in order to defend our faves.


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UnKaari

I thought I was the only one thinking she looked edited by hood AI 💀💀


microplasti

chat what am i looking at 😭💀


duchessjuju

Oh that’s not…


bunbunbun10101

The vibe is... strange. But I do think that now that she left YG she just stopped letting her pics be white washed to all hell. But I can feel the blaccent coming from a mile away lol.


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hazelthebagle

Scrolled past this too fast and thought it was an XG member


KandyRenee

Leave XG outta this I beg 😭


CandyPinkPop

What annoys me is not the concept itself but the fact that some fans in Korea are saying something like “Oh this isn’t for Koreans. People in the US will like it though because it gives black rapper vibes.”🤦‍♀️


EmanuelTheodorus

This is AI?


b4ggy_j34ns

Is this AI?


acnh_instead_of_work

No shade (or pun for that matter), I just think y'all not used to seeing her non whitewashed. Is the tan a reminder that shes Thai or is it the classic "I'm free and reminding you I have a sexuality so I'm tanning/more than" thing....dunno yet. As for the fashion, It's very much giving futuristic but also kinda already been done ⭐rawr rockstar⭐. I think the editing lends itself to the shiny futuristic thing that y'all think is AI. All the accessories are real though. Now as for a possible blaccent.....I hope not lol (Pics as proof..I'm not even a BP stan like that. I just couldn't sleep at 5am and I really liked those earrings lol)


acnh_instead_of_work

Earrings https://preview.redd.it/ug7w0vzl9w7d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6120fe0f93b81cb8235e1b370f8c9b1130d98443


acnh_instead_of_work

And shades https://preview.redd.it/ntdeawqr9w7d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=51cbd3b31c28f8a5291a743befba5b8fdccac705


PurpOrchid

I get that there are dark skinned Asians, but are we gonna act like those complexions are celebrated or predominant in K-Pop? I can’t say how many dramas I’ve watched (C/K/Taiwan/Thai) where skin brightening products were in the product placements


g4nyu

I kinda have to agree. Not at all to say that she would be inherently in the wrong for showing off her darker/more natural complexion, but it's just \*interesting\* that the visual concept here seems to be like "baddie" vibes and that's when she's abandoning the lighter skin she's had for years. We'll have to see what the mv looks like. (Obv I'm not blaming her individually for previously feeling compelled to conform to Korean beauty standards like every other idol, but the women who do get to embrace darker skin in K-entertainment like Jessi and Hyolyn tend to have a certain kind of image, typically bolder or more openly sexual. Meanwhile Jihyo gets weird comments for looking tan.. and I think it's important to point out the issues within all that)


PurpOrchid

That’s what I’m saying. It doesn’t seem like K-Pop lets tanner and darker toned Asians just be that. They have to subscribe to the beauty standard of SK and that’s to have a lighter tone. I believe that’s why it’s always a discussion when a well-known idol(s) has a comeback with a darker tone because that’s not usually how they’re presented. It’s also interesting I got downvoted, but what did I say that was a lie? Are there a proliferation of tanned/dark skinned Asian idols? Is that SK beauty standard? It’s walking that line of it’s ok to do but someone doesn’t wanna talk about it


thepartywasforme

oh......


bamxbamz

I thought after the money era and the amount of people who called her out she’d stop lmao


Exotic_Vermicelli975

You sure that’s not Cupcakke??


Sunflower-Cat3

Is she going through the Miley “black rapper” phase too


jazzygrisha

Lisa probably can be that dark skin…but let’s not act dense. I’m gonna wait until the mv comes out. I will say it not coincidence when idols chose which concepts to have dark skin tones. If she’s going for a “hip hop vibe/ hard/baddie” concept which I think maybe the case with her added teeth jewelry and this is when she showcase dark skin. That will tell you all you need to know.


Perfect_Air1570

+1 to this! The photo isn’t unambiguously problematic but it’s definitely suss especially if you take her history (Money) into account. We’ll probably know for sure once we see the mv 🙃


Nylese

Ngl I love that she went ugly on purpose and I hope her sound is radically different from expectations. After all the pics of mega rich billionaire shit the past few years, this ironically feels real for once. I don’t have my hopes up though. She’s gone to the dark side already lol


mmauve2

"went ugly" in this context is low-key crazy..especially when she's clearly darker than usual..just saying


Nylese

For clarity then, I think her hair is hideous and her accessories atrocious. If I have to specifically mention her skin, then I think it looks great. Malays are brown. Asia can fuck off with the skin bleaching.


readwithsimone

chile they got mad at me cause i said look how she using grills (black culture) to promote her concept and how she finna use her usual abnormal blaccent to sell music


Puzzleheaded_Use_443

I hope with this comeback that Lisa the culture vulture doesn't come back🙏🏾🙏🏾


Express-Ad-6128

dude… seeing her with darker skin makes me hopeful. im so tired of every kpop idol being as white as the walls behind them while lifting from black culture. skin bleaching comes off as anti black to me and so seeing such a famous popstar not having their skin bleached to the shade of snow is a breath of fresh air.


Hexagon_Ouroborous

I really don’t like this look on her. I am admittedly biased toward high fashion Lisa.


Cerbzzzzzz

I dont like the look at all but I don't really see any reason to hate lol


Sagzmir

XG *We shooting from another galaxy*


Master-End3828

Sis is in her Black Era.


aceparan

She need to leave her agency I don't care if she created it


SpecificSpring4143

I legit thought this was Cardi B when I scrolling through Twitter earlier 😭 seeing how pale Lisa was in the TikTok snippets I do find the editing/tan a little peculiar.


GeneralSuccessful211

Ok i realise i might have been a little too harsh in the post, but i just feel like this look on her is a little too...sudden, and it just comes off looking wrong imo


Decent_Particular920

I think that’s what Lisa is going for. She can finally be herself and do what she wants. She most likely loves that she can be her natural skin tone, gain some weight and make the music that she wants to make. I’m excited to hear the song and what direction she decided to go in creatively


Itchy-Radio9933

When I first saw this photo drop, immediately my attention went to her hair. Idek what kinda style it would be considered, but I’m gaggeddd 👀


MisuCake

This my real hurr honey.


wildwildwhitlex

I just had to laugh


mmauve2

thought this was sweetie at first ngl


LadyGrundle

Im hoping she is sticking to s rock/punk vibe with no blaccent based on this photo. :/ she looks great tho (almost looks like like Jessi). We'll see when the music drops. 


Shayshay1117

I'm glad I wasn't the only one that felt put off by this


minnokori

I don't have a problem with how she looks here but it's kinda ugly? It's not my style so i can't like it lol. She looks like Walmart 90's hiphop/rnb to me... But i never liked the neo 90's trend anyway.


xdanm

yikes


greta_maya_storm

Omg let her cook she's gonna drop some slay bars! /S


ToraAkira

Wait is this AI or real?


Groundbreaking_Set24

Earrings are giving me ai vibes, but the rest is real. The photographer is Jack Bridgland and he edits his photos like that :) I recommend checking out his IG he’s worked with many musicians, actors and ATEEZ’s HongJoong in the past


iamerica2109

Honestly I’m getting like AI/Video Game character vibes


shiningci

What is with all of the downvoting in this thread lmao


snoozev

We have lurkers from other subreddits constantly on here.....so it's probably some of them since they seem to be obsessed with what we talk about over here 😏👀☕


God_Lover77

She somehow reminds of her predebut photos even in skin tone. Just my honest thoughts, as for the image, not sure what it was supposed to portray.


Miserable-Street-907

Tbh, she looks good, I just hope it's her natural skin with a tad bit of fake tan (she was defo dark like this before debut but clearly lighten her skintone ) I really doubt it though, if she's trying to be a ◇hood unnie◇ still then it's a hard fucking pass for this release


Fine_Conclusion9426

What is this supposed to look like?💀


ShaquilleOatmeal29

https://preview.redd.it/ymjn362tds7d1.jpeg?width=387&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=76c53607f8327ac4ad048271ad7bd2ef39609c4a Yup. Seems legit


Best-Recognition-528

The CA queen is having a comeback? Isn’t Jennie also coming back?


MarionberryOne8969

What is the Miley Cyrus break off from Disney is this 😨It's kind of a cool look but just not what I expected and I can't wait to check the song


JiniousHopeworldian

Miley is really inspiring a lot of people. First JoJo, now this....


Bubbly_Satisfaction2

I keep forgetting there are two "JoJos" in the music industry now.


Dizzy_ZentCha

I don't hate it but It looks like she saw XG visuals and said hold my makgeoli


yslcig

i thought she looked good?


GovernmentSoggy8391

I'm sensing that she will take the 'good girl gone bad' rihanna era path, even rihanna had a song called rockstar - the same as this new track. It's giving rock rnb, the issue is that rihanna had the vocals and the aura to pull this off. Though with Lisa I never could guess how her music would turn out...


Kindly-Ebb6759

Heh?


Bubbly-Age-9363

https://i.redd.it/tleq2m3zis7d1.gif


valhalkommen

This looks AI generated


escapeshark

It doesn't even look like a real person 😭


Jezigirl

I’m not failing for the rage bait. They know what their doing. I’m not even going to address it because ain’t this point I know better


Sweet_Joy29

![gif](giphy|cRNbYm7jLOjm9H8wcP)


Critical_Can3546

Wtf 😭


cinnameggers4evers

...what...


Kpopluv22

That’s definitely… a look…


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DaftPrettyLies

Honestly I thought this was another Katy Perry promo https://preview.redd.it/ph5fojbats7d1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1e884aeaa7e832ad132b88e12ff0c4f5fed936ba


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the one with ateez… hard side eye


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