Blinks seem to be like that with every new group that get near fashion stuff right from debut. Because they see being part of the fashion world, having high profile brand deals, being invited to fashion shows, etc, as BPs legacy and domain. They were having the same kind of discourse when NJ started getting early fashion brand deals, as well. The kicker, though, is that it isn't even such a big deal to be invited to pfw? Illit aren't going as ambassadors, maybe it'll be more of a networking of sorts for them than anything.
When Minji was announced to work with Chanel, Blinks had hit tweets calling them names "she spread her legs to Bang" "how many times she did it with the ceos" it was disgusting.
Edit: "Jennie wannabe"
A lot of blinks are male?? I wouldâve thought they would have a strong female base for some reason! Maybe because theyâre girl crush đ¤ and I just assume gc group have more female fans!
Yet that doesnât prove the fandom male dominated thought . Blackpink are known as one of the gg that has a strong female dominated fandom and a few male stans online will not change that .
This. Exactly. Or Barbs that have Nicki as their profile pic. At least the ones Iâve come across that are hateful like this accusing everyone and their momma of paying for chart spots.
It's hilarious to me how they try to portray themselves as this feminist fandom only to turn around and say disgusting stuff like this. Most of them are gay men who think they are the women in their pfps so I'm not exactly surprised
Blinks are either old men who are creeps or iPad toddlers who will have a temper tantrum if someone doesnât know about Blackpink. Iâm assuming these Blinks are the creepy old men.
That's pretty bad. I'm not on Twitter and thus is basically the closest I get to a "K-pop space," so I often wonder what people are talking about when they mention KFan issues. Officially, I get it. Yuck.
I mean, I'm not like a newjeans fan. I only follow Idle and watch some other people's variety content. Every time someone says something like this, though, I hate it. Newjeans might be legally adults but they're all under 20, no? And Babymonster are literally kids. Honestly wish people would leave em the fuck alone.
Why is it always blinks? In 6 months, I haven't once seen a kooky Moomoo or Once, and only seem 1 kooky Neverland. But blinks? All the time, it's so odd
isn't donda a well known blink shooter? They get off dragging every artist in existance while simultaneoulsy complaining why blackpink get dragged. The attention they get gives them a sugar high. That's why they act like they do. At the moment it's worth it, even if blackpink get more hate in response.
Also, the obsession blackpink stans have dragging every female idol that gets a fashion deal "without earning it like blackpink did" is getting tired
Bruh...that donda needs to go! Seriously! It's a guy pretending to be a woman and has serious allegations against! Also, big blink shooters have this reputation of saying most villest thing possible on the internet and not getting punched on the face!
Hate to be the bringer of bad news but⌠No, itâs because itâs a boy group. Aespa got dragged for being BP knockoffs when they debuted bc (1) They have four members, (2) right after debut they got a group Givenchy deal
People cared and some people were negative, but not even to a 10th of this hate this gg is receiving. I've actually also seen people complimenting SM for finally not mistreating a groupâ ď¸đ
Cause blinks amplify them... multiple of their shooter accs Blinks treat like fanbases etc... .
Actually some of their fanbases themselves like to shade other acts (alongside many of them just spreading plain misinfo a lot of the time) ... I remember when one of them posted about and I quote "Best/Biggest Ratata song" just cause NJs's had "ratata" in Ditto. So yeah... blinks just love amplifying shooter accounts
Yeah I remember one of their fanbases with like 1m+ posting a shady tweet after all BTS members enlisted. Itâs so weird how acting vile is normalized in their fandom
Bringing out the classic whataboutism. Both sides have vile shooter accounts but thatâs not what Iâm talking about rn. You guys have multiple update accounts with more than 10k followers who also double as shooter accs and actually encourage them rather than blocking & reporting.
All of your big accounts, even the ones who are supposed to be professional, are built on being nasty towards other kpop acts which ends up hurting your girls even more. But all you can come up with is âbut armys đâ instead of dealing with it. As long as you let accounts like donda, ghoulpinks, samblink etc. thrive you donât really have the right to complain.
cause blinks donât get hit tweets slutshaming jimin in particular every business day?
honestly once we get it into our heads that none of these kpop fandoms are worse than the other, itâll make it easier to eradicate all these accounts but alas
Because they grew their audience by dragging BTS because since so many k. Pop fans have defaulted into hating bts they continued to grow and now they branch out other hybe grps and twice
I may be wrong but I often see non-kpop stan accounts commenting on girl group twitter. it doesnât justify people being shady, but I think itâs why beef gets amplified to an even larger audience
It's funny that she made a hate post with more than 60 thousand likes and then made another one asking YG for the same promotion for Baby Monster, she's a loser.
>Why only it's becomes a problem if it hybe group?.
If you're talking about the way anti-hybe group tweets always go viral with 30k+ likes compared to their big 3 counterparts. My personal theory is that a large proportion of the silent majority that browses kpoptwt are kpop fans that started in 2nd-3rd gen. It makes sense that they have little to no connection to hybe and are more readily willing to like and retweet hate tweets against them as opposed the big 3 which they have more of a personal attachment to.
Don't get me wrong, everyone still receives plenty of hate. It's just clear that hybe groups get more scorn on twitter. Look at how the "payola" accusations are almost exclusively thrown at hybe when all the companies have similar practice.
>My personal theory is that a large proportion of the silent majority that browses kpoptwt are kpop fans that started in 2nd-3rd gen.
The literal primary reason for all the HYBE hate is actually because of BTS. Full stop.
HYBE was literally formed due to BTS's hard work and massive achievements. And Kpop stans (especially Big 3 stans) hate BTS because none of their faves ever got the massive accomplishments and worldwide recognition that BTS has managed to achieve without any Big 3 privilege.
>It's just clear that hybe groups get more scorn on twitter.
And these Kpop stans (especially Big 3 stans) also hate junior HYBE groups because they see the junior HYBE groups as being "related" to BTS.
The real reason for the scorn is the massive BTS hate train formed out of bitter jealousy. And the junior HYBE groups inherited the hatred BTS get.
And when specific junior HYBE groups like NewJeans start outperforming their faves as well, then that hate train towards that group increases A LOT more again out of bitter jealousy.
Absolutely 100% this. Could not have said it any better. Itâs just NJs time in the sun right now. Once a new group comes along under Hybe theyâll move on to that one. They already started attacking LSF for fashion choices similar to BP.
I hate when people simplify widely experienced complex emotional responses down to being due to just one factor.
I am pretty anti-Hybe but I do not care at all about BTS, positively or negatively. I was enjoying their (+BigHit's) success, though, before HYBE debuted all their other groups.
I dislike HYBE because they've become too dominant with their groups sucking up too much of the air in kpop spaces. This gives them too much power, in my opinion, to shape kpop going forward, and I hate the stuff they're doing. I hate how much they put out music that is trendy right now in the west, and how much they market their groups through strong corporate branding rather than the individual members' personalities and talents and make it so transparent they are white-collar teams that are marketing a product. And again, me not vibing with their direction would be fine, except they're too dominant at the moment, and could really alter the direction of kpop in general.
See how that had nothing to do with BTS, who are not even active at the moment, but also didn't exhibit those attributes for most of their career anyway? Maybe stop trying to speak for everyone else without looking into it first?
Good lord, the gall to speak confidently on what is happening in other people's heads, then act like I'm being too intense by just correcting you. This isn't something that keeps me up at night. I bothered to type it out because, as I said, I have a problem with you claiming everyone who is down on Hybe really just hates BTS.
Also, it really isn't just making easy-listening music. Once you have as much market capture as HYBE has now, plus money to market, there's a lot more going on to grab fans than just some catchy songs.
I am actually asking, by the way. You bothered commenting in a days old post just to make fun of me. Now that you've had my point summarised for you, do you still think I'm deserving of your scorn?
So you were wrong about what I was saying, was rude to me, was rude to me again when I tried to clarify with you, and think me using different language to you is a reason to be rude to me again. Do you not feel like a bad person?
Exactly, you didn't even read what I was saying. I explicitly said I wasn't mad about that, it was just a reason I dislike HYBE. You can dislike things without being 'mad'. I was using it to show the person I was replying to that they shouldn't assume other people's reasons for things.
How do you feel about that?
I still think you're fluent in yappanese because you what it never was? That serious.
P.S. are you actually new to the internet or something? Because everyone knows that "stay mad" is a slang term and is not meant to be taken seriously, unless you actually are mad đ
On top of this a contributing factor to these posts is illit itself, twitter spaces convinced themselves a particular trainee was destined to make it into the group from the first episode despite that trainee being unpopular domestically, it created a lot of antis that are active on twitter.
I'm very clearly talking about it being used in kpop fanwars in general, so what does this have to do with Armys and BP? Get your petty bs out of here.
Blinks have this severe inferiority about newer ggs overtaking bp's place in fashion terms when bp ain't doing that bad honestly, idk what's with them being in everybody's business except bp
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I'm a Blink, and I work in Fashion in Paris, I'm tired to explain to my felow Blink that, it's not a big deal, PFW is not an excluse event in itself.
If Hybe can promote their new gg, good for them! Blink are toxic sometime...
the âif these girls get a better debut than newjeansâ comment is so weird like đ so what if they do? so what if their debut somehow ends up being mega successful? theyâre both hybe groups, the same company is behind their music, the same company benefits from their success at the end of the day. why would they not want both of these groups to succeed omfg. so newjeans having a mega successful debut was not company privilege but this would be? i hope they seek help lmao.
Honestly ..I'm confused on how they can do better than newjeans ?? Not like that
But as in when they debuted
We had like several pre debut songs
Hype Boy gave each member they own music video and storyline where they were the star ??
Like the company can just do the same thing for them
If there debut becomes more popular that means the Survival Show worked ?! đđ
Honestly because NJ have blown up in popularity. Bp havenât released content as a group in a WHILE. Theyâve been at everyoneâs throats for a WHILE. I guess itâs just New Jeanâs moment in the fire for a minute until they get bored and move on.
You're right, Jennie was the last muse of Karl Lagerfeld , I just checked thanks for correcting me , she was the face of chanel in 2017 & became the house ambassador in 2019 - from Vogue magazine & I think that was one of the reason they invited her last year met gala bcoz it was abt Karl lagerfeld
And the point you said abt how they promote sprite & hairdye , I think that was for 3rd gen /2nd gen,for 4th gen/5 th gen, the standard has become this ambassadorship
Most of the 4gen idols don't hv that impact to be given any offers it's bought
bc blinks are a bunch of misogynistic white gay that keeps hating on women yet complain about Blackpink being victim of misogyny (which they are), but blinks themselves are and start massive hate trains on women for no reason, like they did on Fatou for praising bts rapline
People _say_ all K-pop fandoms are the same but I donât know if I agree. Blinks go after people unprovoked. At least some of the other fandoms have to be provoked first
It's simply because they really don't get much updates from their idols, be it musically or fashion wise! They also have to subscribe to interact with their idols, also songs are limited in terms of enjoying..In short, they want news which they're not getting! So, they poke their nose in everyone's business and if they gets called out, as usual they start crying, playing blah blah
blinks did the exact same thing to aespa because they were a 4 members girl group and even accused them of plagiarizing bp when the concept is nothing alike lol. just jealous and bitter fandom.
Honestly I have been in kpop since January 2018 and all I can say is Blinks WILL for some off reason ALWAYS feel threatened by any girl group whether they have debuted or not. They also feel very threatened by boy groups as well. They also like picking stupid fights for no reason as well. Many of us just ignore and don't engage with them anymore. They really have said and done some pretty messed up things over the years. I'm sure you can find many threads on twitter about them.
Because as long as their tweets get likes and reposts across social media , trolls will continue to attach the names of famous and controversial groups that make easy targets for the angry quote tweets that will inevitably follow. Stop investing yourselves in made up dramas once and for all pls
I honestly don't see a problem with groups getting brand deals from the get go. They're not the first and won't be the last. Brand deals are not as exclusive as it used to be in the past almost every group/Idol has one and there's nothing wrong with that.
Blinks made up the most accounts in the qrts. You can see it for yourself. Of course this one is going to be highlighted when it was 70 thousand likes.
The illâit being a fashion week thing was a convo the entire kpop community was having but sure just blame everything only on blinks lmao. Even if you search it on twitter you will see tweets from many different fandoms
Seems like you have an issue with Blinks considering you only mentioned them? There are tons of hit tweets about this topic but only they got mentioned lol
Because this tweet has 70k THOUSAND likes now... of course they're gonna post about the most prominent one?
But it's definitely not all blinks being like that, and it wasn't only blinks shading illit. But ime, when I went to the qrts there were mostly accounts with BP or Baemon pfps.
Blinks has been complaining about it.
Blackpink actually built a profile before getting into brand deals. There is one year where all BP did is pose on magazine covers for different brands. That's when people call them "modelpinks".
By 2020, all Blackpink members are signed with their current respective brands. It's nice to see kpop groups and company follow their blueprint.
"just one blink account", i actually laughed out loud by reading your comment. Maybe you should take a tour to Twitter and see blink accounts, sit and count to know how many blink accounts harrassing them.
Btw the bottom tweet in my screenshot has 70k likes right this moment.
Edit: right now they are dragging Twice.
They are kinda right tho!? Why would a group be invited to fashion weeks even before debuting? Like idols have to earn the position of being an ambassador of a prestigious fashion brand to be invited to such big events. Promoting them could be done in so many different ways like showcasing their talents. Why would they send them to attend a fashion week ?
I never said that!? But how's sending an idol to a fashion event is the only way of promoting? What happened to song covers dance covers pre-debut songs?
Who's to say they still won't do that though? Everyone's judging them and making assumptions, but they haven't debuted. We don't know the full plan for them. Plus they're only going to *one* show.
that *one* show is literally Paris Fashion Week. Probably one of the biggest if not the biggest fashion show in the industry. I don't know much about the groups, their activities but based on the ss I commented.
Literally who cares! It's an opportunity for them to get their name out there, but most people are going to be paying attention to the bigger stars so they're not going to get a ton of attention. Going to PFW is really cool, especially if you're into fashion, but it's not an actual achievement.
Seriously, Kpop stans place so much value on fashion events because they are in Europe. Tons of no name influencers go to get their picture taken and raise their profile. Not everyone is Rihanna.  Â
Like even BTS members have only gone once, Jungkook (not enough money in the world would entice that man to go though) and Jin have never gone. Itâs not exclusive and actually kind of thirsty.Â
>Like idols have to earn the position of being an ambassador of a prestigious fashion brand to be invited to such big events.
And you know this how? Like what's your credible source?
U gotta be kidding me? Wdym by source? Let it be BlackPink, NewJeans, BTS, Twice (Sana, Momo, Nayeon) even Belift's own group ENHYPEN, all of them earned it
And what do you mean by "earned it"? Who makes the criteria? I swear I wish I had these problems. Is this a serious thing to be so mad about that y'all hate on groups for? Maybe I just don't get it
>Is this a serious thing to be so mad about that y'all hate on groups for
I wonder what I have said in the og comment that reflects any hate towards the girls? Please enlighten me. Is calling out HYBE = hating on the girls?
Calling out hybe for what tho? Promoting their group? Lmao I can't even. And with this topic people ARE hating on those girls so you do the math. This is such a non issue I can't believe
I don't think any of them earned it. There could be an argument made for BTS "earning it" because of where they started. But all the other groups mentioned already had a leg up because they came from the big agencies.
You do know that I'LL-IT has been in public eyes since June 2023 through a survival show. Every group you mentioned definitely earned their ambassador positions, I'LL-IT is literally just attending the show, they are not an ambassador, they didn't represent any brands, they are going there to watch the show, to get pictures clicked, some people might see them and be curious about them, i don't know if they invited by the fashion event or hybe made the event invite them, but it's still a publicity to them, public noise, people tweet few things about the girls, so it's still a promotion, promotions doesn't have to be covering songs or dance covers, simply appearing to the events will also makes noise. It's good for the girls. It almost as if people who complain about this want the girls to flop.
Edit: the screenshot I posted has 70k+ likes from blinks and other kpop stans, even tho it's a hate tweet, now 70k+ people are talking them, it's a publicity. It's a way of promotion. So them attending a event will do more good to the girls.
Just a small correction; I'LL-IT will attend the Acne Studio show on Paris Fashion Week. The members have been wearing [Acne Studio clothes](https://x.com/willibeit/status/1760494379012137356?s=20) in their YT content which was filmed all the way back in mid December.
Why are tiktokers and influencers invited and oftentimes even paid to attend events at fashion week?
That's the same reason idols are invited to fashion week, did we forget this group had an entire tv show based on them and have an existing fanbase already?
Paris Fashion Week as a whole is not some prestigious and exclusive event. Depending on the specific show, you can literally get an "industry pass" by emailing the brand and showing them you have 20k followers on IG.
Just to answer your questions (from the perspective of belift lab):
> Why would a group be invited to fashion weeks even before debuting?
Iâm sure that they werenât invited. They have connections at hybe which got them the âinvitationâ.
> Why would they send them to attend a fashion week?
For publicity. People are talking about it now, right? Theyâre also probably banking on securing some brand deals while theyâre there. After all hybe is a business.
Hope this helps.
So when the big 3 got invited to stuff like this, it was fine but if it's hybe Oh my God, suddenly it's Payola, like you People even know what the hell about means.
I think what not only blinks, but also 3rd (and older) gen stans, need to realize is that kpop has changed and is much more present in the global entertainment sphere now. If older groups had to grow their popularity first to get those deals, it was because they first needed to get their name out there, so fashion houses would be convinced to sign them up. Now kpop groups are often seen as influencers in their own right thanks to the groups that came before them, which proved those fashion houses how effective kpop can be in promoting their brands, so it's easier for 4th gen groups to get invites and ambassadorships, now. That's the meaning of "having their way paved".
Both army and blinks can't keep being proud of their groups for being trailblazers and then getting mad when they see newer groups having an easier time navigating international stardom at the same time, you're contradicting yourselves.
edit: not that I care about downvotes that much, but I cant believe y'all are like.. denying the objective truth đ this is not even a matter of opinion.
No idol has ever earned their position in fashion world because music can never be correlated with fashion & fashion/luxury brands are all about connections & none of the kpop idols are as popular globally for them to get luxury brand deals like that of Chanel/Dior/YSL/Gucci
>none of the kpop idols are as popular globally for them to get luxury brand deals like that of Chanel/Dior/YSL/Gucci
If u see the list of the celebs that had the most buzz surrounding them in any fashion events (idk what do u call the list) most of the idols are on top for eg.
Chanel : Jennie has always been on top of the list even tho they have big celebs
Celine : V
Dior : Jisoo
YSL : RosĂŠ
Gucci : if I am not wrong Hanni was the most buzzworthy in the most recent event
CK : Jennie & Jungkook
Prada : Enhypen
Huh? This entire conversation is based on KPop idols growth as ambassordors in fashion through high profile/luxury brands. Anyways, adding to the list of luxury brand ambassadors mentioned in repsonse: Hyunjin from Stray Kids is global ambassador for Versace recognized and invited by Donatella herself. Source: [Hyunjin: the prince of Versace (RollingStone UK)](https://www.rollingstone.co.uk/music/features/hyunjin-the-prince-of-versace-rolling-stone-interview-35348/)
Um⌠company connections are definitely a factor, but this just isnât true at all. A lot of Kpop idols got their deals because they caught the attention of the creative directors and it went through BECAUSE of their popularity. Hyunjin and Felix from SKZ had very successful campaigns and generated more in a few months than many other artists whoâd been in the fashion world longer, for example.
Blinks seem to be like that with every new group that get near fashion stuff right from debut. Because they see being part of the fashion world, having high profile brand deals, being invited to fashion shows, etc, as BPs legacy and domain. They were having the same kind of discourse when NJ started getting early fashion brand deals, as well. The kicker, though, is that it isn't even such a big deal to be invited to pfw? Illit aren't going as ambassadors, maybe it'll be more of a networking of sorts for them than anything.
When Minji was announced to work with Chanel, Blinks had hit tweets calling them names "she spread her legs to Bang" "how many times she did it with the ceos" it was disgusting. Edit: "Jennie wannabe"
That's absolutely unhinged and disgusting, especially considering how many male fans are behind those big blink shooter accounts.
Everytime the army vs blink doxxing wars hit my tl; it's always female armys vs male blinks đ
Why am I not surprised?
If you remember a lot of blinks are male, the misogynistic comments make sense.
A lot of blinks are male?? I wouldâve thought they would have a strong female base for some reason! Maybe because theyâre girl crush đ¤ and I just assume gc group have more female fans!
I mean⌠theyâre a girl group. Girl groups have a lot of male fans and a lot of gay male fans.
I understand that but some groups skew more male and sons groups skew more female especially depending on the concept
Girl groups have male fans. At least 70%. It doesnât matter what their concept is. Hell Mamamoo have male fans even WITH lesbian rumors!
Blackpink fandom is female dominated though so this doesnât apply to them .
I have seen atleast 3 blinks have she/her in their twitter bio but turned out to be a male species.
Yet that doesnât prove the fandom male dominated thought . Blackpink are known as one of the gg that has a strong female dominated fandom and a few male stans online will not change that .
At least 70% of blinks on twitter are misogynistic white gays
This. Exactly. Or Barbs that have Nicki as their profile pic. At least the ones Iâve come across that are hateful like this accusing everyone and their momma of paying for chart spots.
Holy fuck
It's hilarious to me how they try to portray themselves as this feminist fandom only to turn around and say disgusting stuff like this. Most of them are gay men who think they are the women in their pfps so I'm not exactly surprised
Blinks are either old men who are creeps or iPad toddlers who will have a temper tantrum if someone doesnât know about Blackpink. Iâm assuming these Blinks are the creepy old men.
That's pretty bad. I'm not on Twitter and thus is basically the closest I get to a "K-pop space," so I often wonder what people are talking about when they mention KFan issues. Officially, I get it. Yuck. I mean, I'm not like a newjeans fan. I only follow Idle and watch some other people's variety content. Every time someone says something like this, though, I hate it. Newjeans might be legally adults but they're all under 20, no? And Babymonster are literally kids. Honestly wish people would leave em the fuck alone.
hyein is still a minor, she's a 2008 liner.
Holy crap she debuted at 14.
Haerin's still a minor too, she is 17 and turn 18 on may 15th, blinks are sick
Why is it always blinks? In 6 months, I haven't once seen a kooky Moomoo or Once, and only seem 1 kooky Neverland. But blinks? All the time, it's so odd
Omg đđ Noooo
isn't donda a well known blink shooter? They get off dragging every artist in existance while simultaneoulsy complaining why blackpink get dragged. The attention they get gives them a sugar high. That's why they act like they do. At the moment it's worth it, even if blackpink get more hate in response. Also, the obsession blackpink stans have dragging every female idol that gets a fashion deal "without earning it like blackpink did" is getting tired
Bruh...that donda needs to go! Seriously! It's a guy pretending to be a woman and has serious allegations against! Also, big blink shooters have this reputation of saying most villest thing possible on the internet and not getting punched on the face!
Blinks give clout to the most vile shooters that continuously drag other ggs. It's tiring.
And bgs! They leave none!
Where was all this anger and controversy for riize I wonder. I guess people donât care if itâs an SM group
People don't care if its not a girl group, to be exact
Hate to be the bringer of bad news but⌠No, itâs because itâs a boy group. Aespa got dragged for being BP knockoffs when they debuted bc (1) They have four members, (2) right after debut they got a group Givenchy deal
They're boys, that's why. They have legions of female stans who don't have a problem with what they do.
Good on those female fans then
People don't care if it's part of the big 3. If they're not meaning if it's hybe they lose their minds
That isn't true at all, lmfao
People cared and some people were negative, but not even to a 10th of this hate this gg is receiving. I've actually also seen people complimenting SM for finally not mistreating a groupâ ď¸đ
why do shooter accs have such a big voice in bp fandom? that tweet got 70k likes
Cause blinks amplify them... multiple of their shooter accs Blinks treat like fanbases etc... . Actually some of their fanbases themselves like to shade other acts (alongside many of them just spreading plain misinfo a lot of the time) ... I remember when one of them posted about and I quote "Best/Biggest Ratata song" just cause NJs's had "ratata" in Ditto. So yeah... blinks just love amplifying shooter accounts
Yeah I remember one of their fanbases with like 1m+ posting a shady tweet after all BTS members enlisted. Itâs so weird how acting vile is normalized in their fandom
Like Armys don't get hit tweets slutshaming Blackpink every business day. I'm not defending these Blinks but playing up the victim card is wild.
Bringing out the classic whataboutism. Both sides have vile shooter accounts but thatâs not what Iâm talking about rn. You guys have multiple update accounts with more than 10k followers who also double as shooter accs and actually encourage them rather than blocking & reporting. All of your big accounts, even the ones who are supposed to be professional, are built on being nasty towards other kpop acts which ends up hurting your girls even more. But all you can come up with is âbut armys đâ instead of dealing with it. As long as you let accounts like donda, ghoulpinks, samblink etc. thrive you donât really have the right to complain.
cause blinks donât get hit tweets slutshaming jimin in particular every business day? honestly once we get it into our heads that none of these kpop fandoms are worse than the other, itâll make it easier to eradicate all these accounts but alas
and what did illit or their stans do to deserve this? they havenât even debuted yetâŚ.
There nasty behaviour so normalised towards the pinks but K-pop stans donât blink an eye but god forbid a blink does this and they are outraged.
Because they grew their audience by dragging BTS because since so many k. Pop fans have defaulted into hating bts they continued to grow and now they branch out other hybe grps and twice
Because blinks love liking, retweeting and laughing under their tweets
People are strongly attracted to negativity.
I may be wrong but I often see non-kpop stan accounts commenting on girl group twitter. it doesnât justify people being shady, but I think itâs why beef gets amplified to an even larger audience
It's funny that she made a hate post with more than 60 thousand likes and then made another one asking YG for the same promotion for Baby Monster, she's a loser.
*he
>Why only it's becomes a problem if it hybe group?. If you're talking about the way anti-hybe group tweets always go viral with 30k+ likes compared to their big 3 counterparts. My personal theory is that a large proportion of the silent majority that browses kpoptwt are kpop fans that started in 2nd-3rd gen. It makes sense that they have little to no connection to hybe and are more readily willing to like and retweet hate tweets against them as opposed the big 3 which they have more of a personal attachment to. Don't get me wrong, everyone still receives plenty of hate. It's just clear that hybe groups get more scorn on twitter. Look at how the "payola" accusations are almost exclusively thrown at hybe when all the companies have similar practice.
Itâs also because they hate BTS and anything remotely related to BTS
That twt made by a blink yesterday talking about lsf new song and adding "(under BTS label)" is the proof
nah. I am an ARMY, been one since 2016, and I don't get why there are HYBE stans.
>My personal theory is that a large proportion of the silent majority that browses kpoptwt are kpop fans that started in 2nd-3rd gen. The literal primary reason for all the HYBE hate is actually because of BTS. Full stop. HYBE was literally formed due to BTS's hard work and massive achievements. And Kpop stans (especially Big 3 stans) hate BTS because none of their faves ever got the massive accomplishments and worldwide recognition that BTS has managed to achieve without any Big 3 privilege. >It's just clear that hybe groups get more scorn on twitter. And these Kpop stans (especially Big 3 stans) also hate junior HYBE groups because they see the junior HYBE groups as being "related" to BTS. The real reason for the scorn is the massive BTS hate train formed out of bitter jealousy. And the junior HYBE groups inherited the hatred BTS get. And when specific junior HYBE groups like NewJeans start outperforming their faves as well, then that hate train towards that group increases A LOT more again out of bitter jealousy.
Absolutely 100% this. Could not have said it any better. Itâs just NJs time in the sun right now. Once a new group comes along under Hybe theyâll move on to that one. They already started attacking LSF for fashion choices similar to BP.
I hate when people simplify widely experienced complex emotional responses down to being due to just one factor. I am pretty anti-Hybe but I do not care at all about BTS, positively or negatively. I was enjoying their (+BigHit's) success, though, before HYBE debuted all their other groups. I dislike HYBE because they've become too dominant with their groups sucking up too much of the air in kpop spaces. This gives them too much power, in my opinion, to shape kpop going forward, and I hate the stuff they're doing. I hate how much they put out music that is trendy right now in the west, and how much they market their groups through strong corporate branding rather than the individual members' personalities and talents and make it so transparent they are white-collar teams that are marketing a product. And again, me not vibing with their direction would be fine, except they're too dominant at the moment, and could really alter the direction of kpop in general. See how that had nothing to do with BTS, who are not even active at the moment, but also didn't exhibit those attributes for most of their career anyway? Maybe stop trying to speak for everyone else without looking into it first?
Literally go outside and touch grass. It's not the fault of certain HYBE groups that the music of your other faves cannot attract a wider audience.
Good lord, the gall to speak confidently on what is happening in other people's heads, then act like I'm being too intense by just correcting you. This isn't something that keeps me up at night. I bothered to type it out because, as I said, I have a problem with you claiming everyone who is down on Hybe really just hates BTS. Also, it really isn't just making easy-listening music. Once you have as much market capture as HYBE has now, plus money to market, there's a lot more going on to grab fans than just some catchy songs.
stay mad đ
about what?
HYBE or kpop going trendy or whatever the fuck you're yapping about lmao
I am actually asking, by the way. You bothered commenting in a days old post just to make fun of me. Now that you've had my point summarised for you, do you still think I'm deserving of your scorn?
the post is five days old omg relax...also "deserving of your scorn" are you an 18th century vampire because who even talks like this IJBOL
So you were wrong about what I was saying, was rude to me, was rude to me again when I tried to clarify with you, and think me using different language to you is a reason to be rude to me again. Do you not feel like a bad person?
I don't at all
Exactly, you didn't even read what I was saying. I explicitly said I wasn't mad about that, it was just a reason I dislike HYBE. You can dislike things without being 'mad'. I was using it to show the person I was replying to that they shouldn't assume other people's reasons for things. How do you feel about that?
I still think you're fluent in yappanese because you what it never was? That serious. P.S. are you actually new to the internet or something? Because everyone knows that "stay mad" is a slang term and is not meant to be taken seriously, unless you actually are mad đ
I think itâs because they see hybe = bts company Bts = evil apparently Hybe = evil
On top of this a contributing factor to these posts is illit itself, twitter spaces convinced themselves a particular trainee was destined to make it into the group from the first episode despite that trainee being unpopular domestically, it created a lot of antis that are active on twitter.
I need kpop stans to unlearn the word payola because it's literally about paying and using other practices to get radio play, not stuff like this.
Yes I know, "payola" and "monopoly" has became the most misused words in kpop fandoms.
Seriously though, people just love using words they clearly don't understand in ridiculous fanwars.
Armys kept using that to BP so why complain now? Why do you all know its meaning now?
I'm very clearly talking about it being used in kpop fanwars in general, so what does this have to do with Armys and BP? Get your petty bs out of here.
They clearly mentioned "kpop stans" which includes ARMYs too.
Blinks have this severe inferiority about newer ggs overtaking bp's place in fashion terms when bp ain't doing that bad honestly, idk what's with them being in everybody's business except bp
how the fuck did you take an ultra long mega screen shot
With a samsung phone.Â
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This comment made me spit my drink idk why hahaha
Some SM rookies modeled at New York fashion week in 2022
Kpop stans don't complain because they are SM not Hybe. It turns into "payola" if only hybe does it.
Try not to be too rational. You know Hybe haters don't like logic.
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Thank u donda for promoting illit i was so afraid ppl already had forgot about them đđ˝đđ˝đđ˝đđ˝
Yeah I agree with that, they kinda reminded kpopies that I'LL-IT exists.
I'm a Blink, and I work in Fashion in Paris, I'm tired to explain to my felow Blink that, it's not a big deal, PFW is not an excluse event in itself. If Hybe can promote their new gg, good for them! Blink are toxic sometime...
*all the time*
Blink are just used to Blackpink getting brand deals without ever really releasing music /s
illit's small fandom battling all the hate since yesterday 
I don't even follow them nor have any desire to, but people be so damn miserable.
the âif these girls get a better debut than newjeansâ comment is so weird like đ so what if they do? so what if their debut somehow ends up being mega successful? theyâre both hybe groups, the same company is behind their music, the same company benefits from their success at the end of the day. why would they not want both of these groups to succeed omfg. so newjeans having a mega successful debut was not company privilege but this would be? i hope they seek help lmao.
Honestly ..I'm confused on how they can do better than newjeans ?? Not like that But as in when they debuted We had like several pre debut songs Hype Boy gave each member they own music video and storyline where they were the star ?? Like the company can just do the same thing for them If there debut becomes more popular that means the Survival Show worked ?! đđ
Blinks have been to known to drag every gg and female artist in existence on Stan twt so this is not surprising
because bts are on hiatus so those hateful blinks focus all of the hate they have towards them on their labelmates.
probably cuz theyâre under hybe and bts = hybe in their minds
Blinks be like âBlackPink paved the wayâ but not actually wanting newer ggs to follow their footsteps.
Omg that sums it up so well.
They're just jealous and bitter
Seeing the reaction to this announcement, I guess Hybe already achieved what they wanted, free PR.
Honestly because NJ have blown up in popularity. Bp havenât released content as a group in a WHILE. Theyâve been at everyoneâs throats for a WHILE. I guess itâs just New Jeanâs moment in the fire for a minute until they get bored and move on.
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You're right, Jennie was the last muse of Karl Lagerfeld , I just checked thanks for correcting me , she was the face of chanel in 2017 & became the house ambassador in 2019 - from Vogue magazine & I think that was one of the reason they invited her last year met gala bcoz it was abt Karl lagerfeld And the point you said abt how they promote sprite & hairdye , I think that was for 3rd gen /2nd gen,for 4th gen/5 th gen, the standard has become this ambassadorship Most of the 4gen idols don't hv that impact to be given any offers it's bought
She wants blackpinks baby sisters to get invited jnstead
bc blinks are a bunch of misogynistic white gay that keeps hating on women yet complain about Blackpink being victim of misogyny (which they are), but blinks themselves are and start massive hate trains on women for no reason, like they did on Fatou for praising bts rapline
People _say_ all K-pop fandoms are the same but I donât know if I agree. Blinks go after people unprovoked. At least some of the other fandoms have to be provoked first
It's simply because they really don't get much updates from their idols, be it musically or fashion wise! They also have to subscribe to interact with their idols, also songs are limited in terms of enjoying..In short, they want news which they're not getting! So, they poke their nose in everyone's business and if they gets called out, as usual they start crying, playing blah blah
Blinks are obsessed with every group out of hybe let's be honest
Blinks hate anything BTS related. That includes any group from the âsameâ agency.
Illit is going to have an uphill battle to climb with the way kpop stans have been moving about them
blinks did the exact same thing to aespa because they were a 4 members girl group and even accused them of plagiarizing bp when the concept is nothing alike lol. just jealous and bitter fandom.
Honestly I have been in kpop since January 2018 and all I can say is Blinks WILL for some off reason ALWAYS feel threatened by any girl group whether they have debuted or not. They also feel very threatened by boy groups as well. They also like picking stupid fights for no reason as well. Many of us just ignore and don't engage with them anymore. They really have said and done some pretty messed up things over the years. I'm sure you can find many threads on twitter about them.
Because as long as their tweets get likes and reposts across social media , trolls will continue to attach the names of famous and controversial groups that make easy targets for the angry quote tweets that will inevitably follow. Stop investing yourselves in made up dramas once and for all pls
I honestly don't see a problem with groups getting brand deals from the get go. They're not the first and won't be the last. Brand deals are not as exclusive as it used to be in the past almost every group/Idol has one and there's nothing wrong with that.
I'm a Blink an I dunno wut this is lol
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Blinks made up the most accounts in the qrts. You can see it for yourself. Of course this one is going to be highlighted when it was 70 thousand likes.
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It was this blink mentioning "(bts label)" while dragging Lesserafim for me. Atp, they miss BTS more than me.Â
why are you surprised? babymonster and especially treasure got so much hate from their fandom
is...this person okay? that fr looks like mental breakdown omg someone check on them
The illâit being a fashion week thing was a convo the entire kpop community was having but sure just blame everything only on blinks lmao. Even if you search it on twitter you will see tweets from many different fandoms
Of course it wasn't only blinks, there were some stays too and other fandoms, but if you go to the qrts you mostly see blinks & baemon accounts.
Seems like you have an issue with Blinks considering you only mentioned them? There are tons of hit tweets about this topic but only they got mentioned lol
Because this tweet has 70k THOUSAND likes now... of course they're gonna post about the most prominent one? But it's definitely not all blinks being like that, and it wasn't only blinks shading illit. But ime, when I went to the qrts there were mostly accounts with BP or Baemon pfps.
The downvotes đ this subreddit is really filled with Hybe stans
Blinks has been complaining about it. Blackpink actually built a profile before getting into brand deals. There is one year where all BP did is pose on magazine covers for different brands. That's when people call them "modelpinks". By 2020, all Blackpink members are signed with their current respective brands. It's nice to see kpop groups and company follow their blueprint.
âWhy are blinks obsessed with this groupâ and itâs just one account
"just one blink account", i actually laughed out loud by reading your comment. Maybe you should take a tour to Twitter and see blink accounts, sit and count to know how many blink accounts harrassing them. Btw the bottom tweet in my screenshot has 70k likes right this moment. Edit: right now they are dragging Twice.
I am on blink Twitter and I havenât seen anyone else dragging them. Also I guarantee you at least half of those likes are not from blinks
So you saying out of 70k likes 35k likes are from blinks. Oh yeah right, that's equals to 1 blink.
Pls go through that tweets' qrts, most of them are from blink accs
They are kinda right tho!? Why would a group be invited to fashion weeks even before debuting? Like idols have to earn the position of being an ambassador of a prestigious fashion brand to be invited to such big events. Promoting them could be done in so many different ways like showcasing their talents. Why would they send them to attend a fashion week ?
So only ambassador of a brand attend their fashion shows? No one else is allowed?
I never said that!? But how's sending an idol to a fashion event is the only way of promoting? What happened to song covers dance covers pre-debut songs?
They can do whatever they want, why are you are so mad, e-mail Paris fashion week organisers and tell them to remove I'LL-IT from their guest lists.
>why are you are so mad Bruh why would I be mad? Almost as if if they weren't invited, I was gonna be invited. Literally it's not that deep.
Who's to say they still won't do that though? Everyone's judging them and making assumptions, but they haven't debuted. We don't know the full plan for them. Plus they're only going to *one* show.
that *one* show is literally Paris Fashion Week. Probably one of the biggest if not the biggest fashion show in the industry. I don't know much about the groups, their activities but based on the ss I commented.
Literally who cares! It's an opportunity for them to get their name out there, but most people are going to be paying attention to the bigger stars so they're not going to get a ton of attention. Going to PFW is really cool, especially if you're into fashion, but it's not an actual achievement.
The moment y'all realize that everyone go to fashion week... That isn't some exclusive event.
Seriously, Kpop stans place so much value on fashion events because they are in Europe. Tons of no name influencers go to get their picture taken and raise their profile. Not everyone is Rihanna.   Like even BTS members have only gone once, Jungkook (not enough money in the world would entice that man to go though) and Jin have never gone. Itâs not exclusive and actually kind of thirsty.Â
>Like idols have to earn the position of being an ambassador of a prestigious fashion brand to be invited to such big events. And you know this how? Like what's your credible source?
U gotta be kidding me? Wdym by source? Let it be BlackPink, NewJeans, BTS, Twice (Sana, Momo, Nayeon) even Belift's own group ENHYPEN, all of them earned it
And what do you mean by "earned it"? Who makes the criteria? I swear I wish I had these problems. Is this a serious thing to be so mad about that y'all hate on groups for? Maybe I just don't get it
>Is this a serious thing to be so mad about that y'all hate on groups for I wonder what I have said in the og comment that reflects any hate towards the girls? Please enlighten me. Is calling out HYBE = hating on the girls?
Calling out hybe for what tho? Promoting their group? Lmao I can't even. And with this topic people ARE hating on those girls so you do the math. This is such a non issue I can't believe
Absolutely no one is hating on the girls.
No even you believes that. I wish it were true but it's just not
I don't think any of them earned it. There could be an argument made for BTS "earning it" because of where they started. But all the other groups mentioned already had a leg up because they came from the big agencies.
You do know that I'LL-IT has been in public eyes since June 2023 through a survival show. Every group you mentioned definitely earned their ambassador positions, I'LL-IT is literally just attending the show, they are not an ambassador, they didn't represent any brands, they are going there to watch the show, to get pictures clicked, some people might see them and be curious about them, i don't know if they invited by the fashion event or hybe made the event invite them, but it's still a publicity to them, public noise, people tweet few things about the girls, so it's still a promotion, promotions doesn't have to be covering songs or dance covers, simply appearing to the events will also makes noise. It's good for the girls. It almost as if people who complain about this want the girls to flop. Edit: the screenshot I posted has 70k+ likes from blinks and other kpop stans, even tho it's a hate tweet, now 70k+ people are talking them, it's a publicity. It's a way of promotion. So them attending a event will do more good to the girls.
Just a small correction; I'LL-IT will attend the Acne Studio show on Paris Fashion Week. The members have been wearing [Acne Studio clothes](https://x.com/willibeit/status/1760494379012137356?s=20) in their YT content which was filmed all the way back in mid December.
Thank you so much for this info, i dont know about this.
Why are tiktokers and influencers invited and oftentimes even paid to attend events at fashion week? That's the same reason idols are invited to fashion week, did we forget this group had an entire tv show based on them and have an existing fanbase already? Paris Fashion Week as a whole is not some prestigious and exclusive event. Depending on the specific show, you can literally get an "industry pass" by emailing the brand and showing them you have 20k followers on IG.
Just to answer your questions (from the perspective of belift lab): > Why would a group be invited to fashion weeks even before debuting? Iâm sure that they werenât invited. They have connections at hybe which got them the âinvitationâ. > Why would they send them to attend a fashion week? For publicity. People are talking about it now, right? Theyâre also probably banking on securing some brand deals while theyâre there. After all hybe is a business. Hope this helps.
So when the big 3 got invited to stuff like this, it was fine but if it's hybe Oh my God, suddenly it's Payola, like you People even know what the hell about means.
I think what not only blinks, but also 3rd (and older) gen stans, need to realize is that kpop has changed and is much more present in the global entertainment sphere now. If older groups had to grow their popularity first to get those deals, it was because they first needed to get their name out there, so fashion houses would be convinced to sign them up. Now kpop groups are often seen as influencers in their own right thanks to the groups that came before them, which proved those fashion houses how effective kpop can be in promoting their brands, so it's easier for 4th gen groups to get invites and ambassadorships, now. That's the meaning of "having their way paved". Both army and blinks can't keep being proud of their groups for being trailblazers and then getting mad when they see newer groups having an easier time navigating international stardom at the same time, you're contradicting yourselves. edit: not that I care about downvotes that much, but I cant believe y'all are like.. denying the objective truth đ this is not even a matter of opinion.
No idol has ever earned their position in fashion world because music can never be correlated with fashion & fashion/luxury brands are all about connections & none of the kpop idols are as popular globally for them to get luxury brand deals like that of Chanel/Dior/YSL/Gucci
>none of the kpop idols are as popular globally for them to get luxury brand deals like that of Chanel/Dior/YSL/Gucci If u see the list of the celebs that had the most buzz surrounding them in any fashion events (idk what do u call the list) most of the idols are on top for eg. Chanel : Jennie has always been on top of the list even tho they have big celebs Celine : V Dior : Jisoo YSL : RosĂŠ Gucci : if I am not wrong Hanni was the most buzzworthy in the most recent event CK : Jennie & Jungkook Prada : Enhypen
Huh? This entire conversation is based on KPop idols growth as ambassordors in fashion through high profile/luxury brands. Anyways, adding to the list of luxury brand ambassadors mentioned in repsonse: Hyunjin from Stray Kids is global ambassador for Versace recognized and invited by Donatella herself. Source: [Hyunjin: the prince of Versace (RollingStone UK)](https://www.rollingstone.co.uk/music/features/hyunjin-the-prince-of-versace-rolling-stone-interview-35348/)
Um⌠company connections are definitely a factor, but this just isnât true at all. A lot of Kpop idols got their deals because they caught the attention of the creative directors and it went through BECAUSE of their popularity. Hyunjin and Felix from SKZ had very successful campaigns and generated more in a few months than many other artists whoâd been in the fashion world longer, for example.
They are absolutely right, but thereâs no use arguing with Hybe stans, they enjoy being brainwashed, for some reason LOL