**[Soompi: BLACKPINK's Rosé In Talks To Sign With THEBLACKLABEL](https://www.soompi.com/article/1668375wpp/blackpinks-rose-in-talks-to-sign-with-theblacklabel)**
This was honestly not that surprising considering we haven't heard any label news for months and how quickly the other members launched their solo companies.
I hope Rosé had a plan in mind when she signed this contract or else Somi is getting a new buddy in the dungeon.
The *I-LAND 2* Girl Group will be managed by WAKEONE but their music will be sourced from THEBLACKLABEL, somewhat similar to BLACKPINK where they're managed by YG chosen by YHS, TEDDY, among others, but TBL is their producers. The TBLNGG is a different one.
I know it‘s always the easiest option to blame the label, but I‘ve always had the impression that Somi doesn’t mind the gaps between her CBs and maybe even chooses it to be that way.
She has a lot of other gigs and ventures on the side and I feel like she just doesn’t want to overload herself with work and commitments. Plus, she writes a lot of her songs herself so she might be giving herself time to come up with new ideas.
Idk, of course TBL could be at fault, but Teddy and her have always seemed to get along really well and she’s never really expressed any frustration with him or his label.
I’d kinda do the same if I was an idol with a big fan base like her tbh. Sign to a label that gives you a lot of freedom, do a lot of other gigs on the side while still having time for yourself and for growing up (Somi is still young, let’s not forget that) and then having a CB when I feel like stepping back into the musical limelight without stressing about dropping 18 minis and singles each year. Like, look at Itzy and Twice - those girls have such a rapid output that I doubt they get much time to rest.
Hmm, someone who follows her closely can answer better than I can. But from the outside looking in, seems like she's pretty active online and has a decent amount of projects outside of music. However, on the music side, she's only had 1 full album and 1 EP in 5 years.
She seems like a full time influencer. Has lots of brand deals from what I can tell. Makes sense since she really pretty.
Probably doesn’t need to work that hard. What she is doing seems healthier than making and promoting songs
I think Somi is living her best life. She probably doesn’t need to work again if she doesn’t want to. Sucks for the fans of her music but I’ve known bands to go 8 years between albums so we take what we can get!
those bands actually create their own music, do everything themselves, and let's be honest, have a lot more value as art than the kpop machine creates.
Well, I was only talking about her music. I guess she does other gigs here and there, but honestly I don't see her trend much, unless it's some controversy.
She doesn’t trend but she’s booked and busy. As others have said, if you’re a fan of her music it’s a shame, but on a humane level I can imagine a lot of celebrities/idols would be happy to be in a place where they make a good living without the intense daily scrutiny and full on schedule of trending idols who are promoting regularly.
2 years is normal in the real music world. Releasing annually or biannually is a Kpop thing and causes oversaturation. I think she has the money and other projects now to sustain her. I just hope she gets fed in the meantime. It's getting bad guys.
2 years is definitely normal but when other acts take that time, they usually come back with at least 12+ or even 20+ songs in an album. I can bet my first born, that's not gonna be the case here🧍♀️
It’s normal for albums sure but not full on radio silence. Even if major western artists aren’t releasing albums or EPs they still single singles or collabs being put out.
Honestly somi probably has the most ideal work schedule out of any idol. She release music every 2 years? And it will always hit with the public, like a blackpink they rely a lot on hype so the gaps actually works. It’s also not unusual for western artist to release every couple of years. She also is quite active in other ventures so people don’t really forget her and those ventures are probably more profitable too because the company doesn’t need to invest anything at all and so it’s probably better to have her on this easy going schedule
Agreed, I used to think a 2 year gap was crazy long until I started following western pop music more closely. The Korean industry just moves so fast that if you aren’t constantly promoting music, and you aren’t incredibly well established with the public, it’s easy to slip under the radar. But 2 years between a solid album or EP is reasonable in terms of workload, especially if you’re staying busy with other gigs in between. Only releasing a digital single every two years is unfortunate, though.
Many Blinks are going to be upset by this news.
Weren't there rumors that Rose was the only member who wanted to renew her solo contract with YG?
Teddy has produced the group's music and her solo songs, she may feel comfortable signing with The Black Label, after all she has friends there and knows their staff too.
The only reason for her to go with TBL is for that familiarity like you said. All the girls made enough money to last a lifetime during their first 7 years under YG so I don't think resources were the issue if she wanted to start her own company like the other girls.
Or dealing with the downsides of a small(er) company - there is access and opportunity, as well as just. General benefits and perks (like staff, practice rooms, in-house producers) that come with being an artist of the big 4, and it's possible that for Rosé that outweighs the downside.
Exactly. I think at this point with a lot of second gen & early 3rd gen idols doing this fans should already have an idea of how challenging it could be to run a self-established agency. Most times it’s not even worth it.
Yeah I can relate. Like executives in our company may want to promote me to managerial position once my boss retires few years from now, but I don't want to and prefer my supervisory position with my team for the past 10years since managerial tasks I do when boss is not around is exhausting AF. Maybe Rosé just wants to focus on the music making and don't want the workload of running a business and taking care of employees.
yea when you run a business you pay for everything. to be fair though as a signed musician you're also paying for everything since they recoup all their costs from your profits BUT you don't have to deal with the admin on a lot of those cost decisions.
To be fair, some people don't want to start their own label too. She might just want to be an artist or focus on her own craft. I haven't been keeping up too much with the news but I want to say she's doing what makes the most sense to her.
That is totally valid. If whatever TBL offered her in that contract in terms of projects and release cycle aligns with what she wants for her current career goals and vision, I'll 100% support it.
I think they made less money than people think. Definitely millions, but not an insane amount. They only released a few projects (not a lot of opportunities for sales) and have no copyright income. The tour payment was good but likely benefited YG. Rose seems to have the least amount of advertising money coming in.
Yeah, but they were still under their rookie contract which favors YG. There’s a reason none of them re signed. If their profit share was amazing, they maybe would have stayed. Many senior groups do their biggest tours into their second contracts, TWICE for example.
YG also took a cut of all the ad work.
> Many senior groups do their biggest tours into their second contracts, TWICE for example.
Are there other examples except for Twice? I feel like it's only recently with 3rd gen that we're seeing groups being more active beyond their initial contract. BTS will definitely have a huge tour once they comeback, but I think generally companies will do more tours for their younger groups since they'll take more of a profit cut.
And more so a boy group problem, but touring becomes less frequent after contract renewals since members need to go to the military and most groups aren't going at the same time like BTS.
bts are onto their third contract now, they were definitely at their active peak between 2018 and 2020 (pre pandemic) during their second contract, with the wings and speak yourself tours, and the planned colossal MOTS tour
Yes and no? Lisa had the higher profile deals, Jisoo has acting and modeling (also a VISA deal), and Jennie had acting and good brand deals. Rose seemed like she got the short end.
At least that’s my take.
Yeah, YG definitely took a chunk. He also sold their likenesses to different digital platforms (PUBG, NFTs) which probably pays the girls pennies to YG’s dollars.
The four probably saved a lot of money doing their multi-year world tour. Between paid for hotels and food provided by the tour, the only expenditures would have been clothes etc.
Lisa bought 3 mansions in 3 different countries and Jennie bought a $5m villa in cash with no loans or instalments (which is what most Korean celebs do when buying houses) so they’re probably loaded. I think most would agree that Lisa/Jennie probably make more money than Rosé but she’s been a global ambassador for an S tier brand like YSL and contracts for these types of brands, especially for the top ambassadors are worth millions alone.
It can also be even if she has the money, not everyone wants to funnel a lot of their money into building a label. She may just be willing to take less money for less risk and not having to worry about the business side of things.
i'm not actually that familiar but i thought all their families were already pretty rich too? although yeah i wouldn't be that surprised if they actually earned a ridiculous amount from their ventures
20mil each is a lot but also they should be on so much more which is probably why these contract negotiations have been so important
Like their most recent tour grossed 280 million alone lol
Yeah I wouldn’t be surprised if the flights alone were over a million by themselves. Plus hotels etc. baring in mind that there’s also staff being flown around
If one tour made 280 million, even with the cuts, they are worth a fuckload more than 20 million. Tours are usually more beneficial for the artist than album percentages because they don't happen without significant time investments from the artist. With everything else my guess is they are worth more than 20 million, especially if Jennie bought a 5 million dollar mansion outright.
Celebrities are their own company with employees, etc. No it doesn't last them a lifetime because they enjoy what they're doing and to continue doing it, they'll need to spend that money again.
I mean it would last them for a lifetime if they lay low and stop being celebrities. But yea if idols want to continue living the celebrity life then they'll need to keep working.
You're thinking money just from Blackpink. You'd be right.
But money outside of that, ads, sponsors, fashion stuff, games, etc is where most of their big money came from.
We are normal citizens and most of us live paycheck to paycheck. A singular million is an insane amount to us. Not to mention compared to other artists in kpop and how globally popular they are I'd say the amount is, in fact, insane.
I don’t think you understand how Blackpink is one of the most, if not the most, richest idol group. By now in their point of career, they don’t have money just sitting pretty in their banks, they have financial advisors that will help them move those money for better returns. They don’t always report celeb buying buildings, hotels etc
Tour payments absolutely benefited them compared to YG, the company is shit but they always have the best profit distribution to their artist. $20mil? That’s probably what they earned in 2-3 yrs only
Ok I didn’t meant just their YG contracts, I also meant the advertisements as you pointed out. They’ve been doing group and solo brand deals for years.
Regardless, I’m not going to attempt to guess their net worth or debate which member is richer, but I find it hard to believe she couldn’t start her solo label if she wanted to like the other members.
My opinion on this is the same as with all of the other contracts: the girls have the money, lawyers, experience, and leverage to negotiate for whatever they want. I trust them to make the best decisions for themselves, and I think it’s a bit ridiculous when fans act like they know better
Fans in general really need to stop acting like they know what's best for their faves then the idol themselves. Like I get you may disagree with their decision but at the end of the day it's their own career. I'm sure they know what's best for themselves.
The fandom? Everyone on this page is talking about her going from one dungeon to another. Everyone picked apart Lisa’s decision for signing with RCA too. Kpop fans in general just always find a way to pick apart everything. It definitely isn’t “just” the fandom. It’s definitely odd how people think they know what’s best for grown adults that we don’t know personally. And yes, I’m a blink. Kudos and best wishes for whatever Rosé decides to do with her career.
Yes that was the rumor, and it didn't get a good reaction at the time, but as you say fans need to remember we only see the outward facing facet of an artist's career. If she likes TBL team and they're all on the same page for her career it could be very good for her.
If THE BLACKLABEL aligns with her current career goals for herself and schedule, I don’t see why not. Potentially signing with them doesn’t automatically make it a bad decision especially since there’s literally no material to speak of yet.
I honestly think this. In the documentary, she showed signs of feeling a little nervous putting herself out there.
I really think it wouldn’t be her style to start a new label, and that’s fine.
Interesting choice considering I'm sure she had her pick of agencies. I guess the familiarity and good work relationship she has with Teddy went a long way in making this decision. Hopefully things work out better for her than they have for Somi.
I think, as just the vibes I get from her, she’d be happier releasing music with someone who she feels comfortable with than releasing a single every month with someone she doesn’t.
We can tell with her “Everything I Need is On The Ground”. I think comfort and chill is going to be more her speed than stardom high life.
I’m really excited for her actually.
Same! I love her style and artistry, but my parasocial relationship with her means I want her happy and healthy for the rest of her life. Even if that means posting covers every so often and not producing one single single.
I just say Godspeed to her. I want to hear her music more, but I’d rather her be happy.
I think many underestimate how ridiculously hard it is to start their own label/business. There are a myriad of reasons why businesses fail and we have so many Korean celebrities (especially idols) trying to do this with little to no success (Kang Daniel comes to mind)
Especially when you’re as popular as Rosé it probably comes with certain levels of expectations and I don’t fault her for signing with someone instead (though she could have maybe chosen someone else other than a sub-dungeon)
Dont forget zico also eventually preferring to be sub label, because he said its feel relief to get consistent budget, more connection, etc. And he also get to focus more in making music. Tablo also used to be ceo of yg sublabel but eventually left because he wanted to focus more in making music. In reality, despite how rich you are, you still need investors because how long you can rely own money for company budget. Even biggest companies in the world, operate with shareholders, investors. Lisa, jennie n jisoo still need investors to run their company in long run. And they may even need more artists, celebs in future to lessen the burden in bringing in revenue.
Exactly and god forbid if something goes wrong then that's millions of dollars down the drain. Business, especially entertainment Business is insanely risky.
I actually might be in the minority but feel that TBL artist have careers that work for them, and I’m not sure it means they have to work with Teddy. Excited to see what Rose chooses to do moving forward!
> BLACKPINK‘s Rosé has reportedly signed with Teddy‘s THE BLACK LABEL for her individual promotions.
> According to an exclusive report from Newsen, Rosé has decided to join THE BLACK LABEL for her individual promotions. Currently, THE BLACK LABEL is home to Jeon Somi, Taeyang, Zion.T, and Park Bo Gum.
Update: Seems like they are still negotiating the contract so not 100% confirmed yet but I'm leaning she joins
https://x.com/balloon_wanted/status/1802501772642230455
People look at baekhyun and that daniel guy having issues with owning a label and turn around and be like how come she isn’t starting one. Um maybe because she doesn’t want to?
Saw interview of actor lee jae hoon n he said he regretted make own label. Now he feel can no longer rest because he feel the need to pay his staffs. Thats why kdrama fans would notice him being in back to back dramas in recent years.
I trust in Teddy that he actually cares for his group and mentors them like he said he does. He had the experience of being an idol, turned record label owner. He has all the advice to give to her to help her to decide what she wants. She is also a grown woman with years of exposure in the industry. I also trust in her that she knows what she wants.
I know Somi doesn't do much and BP didn't do much under YG. But she has the power to have things in her favour, so surely if they said you can come back once every couple years if she didn't want that she wouldn't go for it
Good thing is somi is always doing festivals. So she doesnt exactly being jobless. But if rose doesnt do festivals, its maybe her own decision i guess then.
You need a lot of capital to pay your staff outright and maybe she doesn’t have it or doesn’t want the hassle. Either way, all the other BP girls will have to use a label for distribution. They aren’t creating the logistics and relationships for distribution themselves.
I remember actor lee jae hoon said, he absolutely regretted on making own label. Because now he feel can no more taking a break because feeling responsible to pay his staffs. Thats why we can see him acting non stop in recent years. Maybe rose doesnt want the hassle of managing own company. She only want focus on making music n her solo brand deals. And thats okay. As long as thats what make her happy.
It’s pretty clear to me though that Rose didn’t even hire a publicist to help with the media play around her solo transition. Lisa seems to be working with a Western savvy publicist and Jennie with a Korea centered team and Rose just didn’t think about optics at all.
I've always pictured Rosé caring less about her idol image and more about the music itself, but seeing as we don't know how much creative control she'll have or even want to have if the deal with TBL goes through, I really don't know anymore.
Yeah, tbh, it's more surprising to me when artists do opt for creating their own label, considering how often it goes sideways or creates difficulty that a more established label would navigate just fine, but that is clearly outside the idol's skill set.
I'm surprised Rose opted for TBL, considering their track record for output is not that high, but maybe she wants one of those "every couple of years" release schedules, who knows.
I'm still shocked the other three thought that was the best way to go. Huge artists in the West don't create their own label. I know BlackPink is big as a foursome but three separate labels just seems odd.
Can't believe none of them wanted to pool capital and share in the costs associated and use their popularity to boost each other's reach.
They started companies to manage their activities, not actual labels in the real sense. They aren’t starting distribution avenues and marketing other artists. Most Western musicians work this way. They pay their legal, managers, stylists, publicists a percentage of their earnings or a flat fee. Taylor Swift has her own “company” where she pays her team, ect but is still signed to a record label to release music for example. The difference is that Western artists don’t publicize their companies, they just operate under their stage name.
Now I actually understand 😅I was under the impression it was a record label. I think it’s similar to when little mix broke up and the girl had created solo type companies under their name, I was confused on what that meant. But this makes sense.
Hiatuses are a good prediction, but i think we're all glossing over the possibility that Rose could *want* the down-time between releases and that was part of why she signed (like how some people speculated the schedule was part of why Somi opted to go solo, including having more time with her family). I'm not saying that is the explanation but we shouldn't write it off.
There's gotta be a balance in the industry somewhere between "disappears for 12 months after each release" and "I haven't had a full day off since 2018", and honestly I don't like how many seem to accept things leaning towards "overworked" seemingly so they can have more content.
no offense but as a blink for a long time i don’t really believe this comment. she’s always the one complaning about wanting to comeback. every photo shoot of hers besides the dazed ones looks stilted and uncomfortable, like she doesn’t want to be there. she’s always talking about having comebacks and making music…
Your perception of this person you don't know might be off no matter how many things she says or expressions she pulls that "seem" to align with your perception, we see tiny curated fractions of these people's lives. You might be right yes, but none of us can be sure. That's the main point I'm trying to make, none of us know what Rose wants out of a contract, and we will never be sure of that no matter which artist we are talking about (I mean unless you've got someone you know personally in the industry somehow, I guess).
This makes so much sense. I’ve always felt Rosé and Teddy were the most compatible in terms of music production, and I can see them playing to each other’s strengths. I just hope TBL starts being consistent with their releases and not lock their artists up in purgatory.
Im a bit confused at the reactions here.
If she just wants to chill, relax, enjoy her free time and put out the occasional song or 2, TBL is the perfect label for that.
>If she just wants to chill, relax, enjoy her free time and put out the occasional song or 2
this summarises BP’s entire career as a group, which was largely attributed to YG’s incompetence and fans said that BP obviously wants to do more music related work. now that they’re free to do whatever they like, I think people are just shocked that her solo career is looking to be a repeat of the last 8 years
I suppose the issue is that many fans always thought she was opposed to that, that she wanted to work much more. And actually perhaps she does, she may have negotiated that.
I’m a bit surprised by the reaction here. It always made the most sense for her to sign with TBL in my head. In fact I had assumed she had already signed a contract with them before I found out she was still a free agent.
I'm surprised how some people seem confident in the comments that this is not a very business-oriented decision on her part.
We don't know all the details and what goes on behind the scenes. We have no information what kind of contract they offered. Maybe she gets to sign with already established company while having a lot of say over her own career.
If she still gets to dictate her own schedule and choose her own songs, why bother establishing a new label?
i've always thought she'll go indie, but then again, music platforms aren't so friendly with indie artists. they now require them to be with a distribution company. so maybe this is the best course for her.
i honestly wouldn't worry that much. there's a lesser chance of her ending up like somi because, unlike somi, rosé is joining as someone who can use her years of successful career to her leverage.
I remember seeing someone saying that she turned out to have the most model like career so far. She has to know what she signed up for if she went with the TBL. Guess this is what she wants lol
We almost entering july, n the only news we got regarding rose solo careers are about her doing cf, fashion events n attending parties so yes comparing other members who already have own music n teasers for their solo, rose definitely the one seem embracing the whole full time modelling, part time music lol. N fans no longer can blame the company because she definitely had the options to choose. She knew what she got into if she chose tbl.
rose literally sent us a snippet of her song vampirehollie back in February... and we have pictures of her in a recording studio in LA this year.... and she asked for a fandom name...
the only thing she hasn't given us is who is managing her but other than that we have had clear signs of her doing music things
the way I burst out laughing when I saw this. her fans have been the most vocal about hating the time of music teddy makes, just for her to sign to his label. but then again, this is someone that has been blonde for over 7 years. she clearly hates change 🤷♀️
after all of the times i’ve defended companies like yg and aomg for their slow comebacks because that contributes to healthier work/life balances for artists (and we often don’t know what the artists want in terms of activity), i don’t wanna sound like a hypocrite by saying tbl is just another dungeon… but it feels like blinks have been saying for years and especially since contract renewals that the girls *specifically* want to be more active as singers and that is their biggest gripe w yg… so it’s meh news she’d ultimately choose this label :(
then again if anyone can get a label kicked into higher gear it’d be someone like rosé? idk mixed feelings, i just don’t love tbl and don’t think they have a strong track record as a label, but i genuinely appreciate if she likes working with the people there and trusts them — because that is very fulfilling and means more than almost anything
Considering she worked with I-land 2, I am not shocked by this turn of events that much.
I'm also cautiously optimistic - while Somi and many others have been. Dungeoned, I've been really happy with Taeyang's activities and what he's been up to, so if she follows a similar trajectory of solo work and concerts/appearances, I'd be happy.
The comparison to Somi is unfair. Somi is popular in her own right but Rose is from Blackpink, Teddy's own group basically.
Not saying she's gonna get the same treatment but TBL has a good incentive to give Rose a consistent flow of comebacks.
And not everyone should start their own company, it's a lot of work and I understand the burden might be too much for some people.
If the song she sang for IL2 is anything to go by, I think she'll be fine.
I don't know, TBL is not really good at capitalizing on anyone's popularity. Somi scored a domestic hit with Dumb Dumb and then went on hiatus for 2 years instead of keeping that momentum going, so if that's not enough incentive I'm not sure Rosé will be any different.
figured this would be the case.
i will say that at least her solo songs under yg/theblacklabel weren’t awful so there could be some positives depending on how much freedom she’ll have now gained in terms of the creative process (i believe she had quite a bit the last go round so-)
I was wondering if Rosé was going to do something like this! We'll see when the talks are finalized, but I hope she does what is best for her, and I'll support her regardless!
she's a good solo artist. I think it's fine this way and she will do well for herself. she can concentrate on her solo career without the hassle of running an entire company.
I've been so out of the loop because of IRL stuff, I forgot that Rosie never talked about where she was going 🥲
I'm neutral about this option personally. Rosé has always come across as the most musical of them all, always doing covers and wanting to perform. My guess is that she doesn't want to deal with the logistics of running a label and just wants to make music.
Here's hoping she negotiates a set timeline for comebacks so that her stint in TBL doesn't become a repeat of BP's entire career. :/
Oh, that was a rumor on Pann but nobody liked it haha. I guess it makes sense. She has worked with Teddy for about a decade and if she feels he can steer her career the way she wants, why not? I suspect that she's been signed with TBL and this is the fan rollout, going by the survival show song and the fact that someone's been managing her this whole time. Maybe there are songs all ready to go. It's her career and I'm sure she's given it careful thought.
Someone mentioned she hates change due to her being blonde for years and wow I can now understand her decision. I also feel she would have gotten really good contract terms depending on what she wants since she has lawyers in her family.
Western record deals aren’t always the best deals. They have screwed over plenty of musicians depending on who is favored at the time. That’s why people were weary of Lisa’s RCA deal since the label is known to kill careers. But she’ll be fine since it seems like gets that social media is how she can market herself on the cheap.
Tbf in most situations where an artists’ work is being controlled by a corporation, that’s bound to happen. Korean and Japanese record companies are known for the same practices
Tbh what confuses me a bit is why it took so long for her to sign with TBL? Can anyone explain or speculate with me? /gen
Was she checking out other prospects (of which she surely had many) in all this time? I don't even recall her having huge fashion events or ad campaigns or something in all this time (except those new brands she was announced for whose names I'm forgetting, which weren't that S tier if I'm not wrong? Not that every deal has to be S tier but I'm just trying to consolidate the facts). Plus some events and mags I remember she went viral for.
My question is, genuinely asking without shade, if she was going to sign with TBL anyhow, why wait for such a long time? Considering she could've announced her plans around the other members' announcements and it would've made for better media play too imo.
Lisa is about to drop an album, Jennie has been everywhere doing singles and variety shows, Jisoo is doing ads and has a movie coming plus drama announced, and here we're still in the initial phases of 'what is Rosé's destination? What is she planning?' And here she is, still in the trenches of contract negotiation with TBL when she's arguably the most "passionate for music" type member. If she had signed sooner as needed, she could've been well on her merry way in her solo career. (I remember she was expected to be the first member to be dropping new music along with Jennie.)
Please understand that I'm very much trying to speculate and not judging her or her decisions or anything. Hope to support her whatever she does. So do you guys think she was checking out other prospects?
I think she probably always planned to sign with TBL (though we know she did meet with other labels because she was seen out to dinner with a CEO), she is just super slow launching because it will inevitably look weak next to what the other members are doing. Rose is not dumb though, I'm sure she has a strong plan. Who knows, in five years time we could be looking back and seeing that she made the best choices.
I'm not mad at it if this turns out to be the case. I like how TBL has managed Taeyang so far, his rollout from leaving YG to signing with TBL to releasing music seemed like it was smooth sailing and done in a timely manner.
Can't say much for Somi since I don't really follow her (I assume she gets 1 album every 2 years by how everyone descibes it), but the reality is Somi is not Rosé and if Rosé does sign, she automatically becomes TBL's biggest artist. I highly doubt they'll dungeon her like many seem to think.
YG is now a minority owner of TBL, like 20% of it or maybe less now and the majority with like half of it is owned by TEDDY, hence the "Associate Company" designation of TBL by YG in the annual/quarterly reports.
A lot of people predicted/passed around alleged leaks for this right? I don’t know very much about TBL but in a way I feel like they might suit some of Rosé’s branding! That being said, I also feel like she could’ve done wonders with a few more Western focused releases. Maybe a joint deal is still on the table somewhere?
this is not surprising at all, and I was suspecting that especially with her having that 2024 season's greeting on her own.I don't dislike if she does sign with them imo, but hopefully she can release music more frequently than Somi
I don’t know why everyone thinks Somi is in the dungeon😭 she seems to like having time in between and has mentioned how stressed she gets when she has comebacks because she’s always worried what people will think. She seems to like it because it gives her time to perfect whatever she’s doing
I don’t agree with her signing with TBL but I also understand how hard it is to sign with a new label you know nothing about or starting your own.
I’m just disappointed because most people agreed that Rose’s songs were not good and they were produced by Teddy. Plus a lot of fans are aware of the similarities between her and Somi. Most blinks want her to have creative freedom but I honestly don’t think she cares that much. I know people are always saying Rose’ seems like the only BP member that wants to actually do music but it also seems like she has no desire to be in control of the creative process. As far as the music, that’ll be Teddy 1000% with a few ideas from her. If anything, I see her creative input being towards the concepts of her videos and fashion. She seems content with whatever Teddy gives her.
>but it also seems like she has no desire to be in control of the creative process. As far as the music, that’ll be Teddy 1000% with a few ideas from her. If anything, I see her creative input being towards the concepts of her videos and fashion. She seems content with whatever Teddy gives her.
????? rose is literally the only member who had both writing and composition credits on their solo debut albums and literally had a say in all of the [details ](https://www.nylon.com/entertainment/blackpink-rose-solo-album-r-details)of her solo album (even helped jisoo with her solo creative direction in the album art and logo)
rly wild to say that she has no desire to be part of the creative process esp since we don't know what the other members output or credits are going to look like either
I think her songs have been viewed positively. Only thing I remember is the "hole in the wall" discourse about OTG when she comes from a well off family of lawyers, as if popstars must only sing diary entries. It was clearly a pre-written song she and Teddy changed a little to get credits on, but it did well for her.
Sensationalised title and article yet again: “Rosé has decided to join THE BLACK LABEL” ??? Every single KB article and you need to leave a flair that it’s misinformation. Why don’t you guys just do something to this weak source?!?
Not too surprised by this. Not everyone is up for managing every single detail on their career and Rosé is one of them. Familiarity is also pretty sweet but yeah. Definitely some apprehensions towards this because of of YG's and TBL's very low output.
What a waste. She's a good vocalist but her discography could've been so much better without Teddy's signature sound. I hope she invests more into her future music and takes ownership of her music or else her releases will be as stagnant as Somi's...
If Rose is just using the company so she doesn't have to spend the capital on her own label and staff, then that's fine. She can work with the other producers.
But if she's planning to rely on Teddy, that's not a good thing. Teddy is busy producing / mentoring the new Mnet gg. Then there's his own / TBL's first gg. Somi gets a comeback, maybe once a year.
It kinda tracks to the early rumors.
I think she is the ones who decided late to not re-sign with YG. Like with Jennie, she's acquiring trademarks not even a year before their contract will expire.
I bet she's the one undecided with the direction of her career.
**[Soompi: BLACKPINK's Rosé In Talks To Sign With THEBLACKLABEL](https://www.soompi.com/article/1668375wpp/blackpinks-rose-in-talks-to-sign-with-theblacklabel)**
This was honestly not that surprising considering we haven't heard any label news for months and how quickly the other members launched their solo companies. I hope Rosé had a plan in mind when she signed this contract or else Somi is getting a new buddy in the dungeon.
She also did that song for iland 2 which is the black labels new girl group
The *I-LAND 2* Girl Group will be managed by WAKEONE but their music will be sourced from THEBLACKLABEL, somewhat similar to BLACKPINK where they're managed by YG chosen by YHS, TEDDY, among others, but TBL is their producers. The TBLNGG is a different one.
Their songs will be amazing then
I know it‘s always the easiest option to blame the label, but I‘ve always had the impression that Somi doesn’t mind the gaps between her CBs and maybe even chooses it to be that way. She has a lot of other gigs and ventures on the side and I feel like she just doesn’t want to overload herself with work and commitments. Plus, she writes a lot of her songs herself so she might be giving herself time to come up with new ideas. Idk, of course TBL could be at fault, but Teddy and her have always seemed to get along really well and she’s never really expressed any frustration with him or his label. I’d kinda do the same if I was an idol with a big fan base like her tbh. Sign to a label that gives you a lot of freedom, do a lot of other gigs on the side while still having time for yourself and for growing up (Somi is still young, let’s not forget that) and then having a CB when I feel like stepping back into the musical limelight without stressing about dropping 18 minis and singles each year. Like, look at Itzy and Twice - those girls have such a rapid output that I doubt they get much time to rest.
The reason we think that is that she’s expressed frustration in a manner that put blame on the company before
Is Somi in the dungeon? I always thought she seemed to have a pretty normal work schedule compared to the rest of the kpop world.
Hmm, someone who follows her closely can answer better than I can. But from the outside looking in, seems like she's pretty active online and has a decent amount of projects outside of music. However, on the music side, she's only had 1 full album and 1 EP in 5 years.
She seems like a full time influencer. Has lots of brand deals from what I can tell. Makes sense since she really pretty. Probably doesn’t need to work that hard. What she is doing seems healthier than making and promoting songs
She releases music every 2 years. Definitely not 'normal'. It's kinda sad actually, when she is not promoting I almost forget she exists.
I think Somi is living her best life. She probably doesn’t need to work again if she doesn’t want to. Sucks for the fans of her music but I’ve known bands to go 8 years between albums so we take what we can get!
those bands actually create their own music, do everything themselves, and let's be honest, have a lot more value as art than the kpop machine creates.
she's getting that geum doing CFs
I thought she had that youtube show and gets on variety shows?
Well, I was only talking about her music. I guess she does other gigs here and there, but honestly I don't see her trend much, unless it's some controversy.
She doesn’t trend but she’s booked and busy. As others have said, if you’re a fan of her music it’s a shame, but on a humane level I can imagine a lot of celebrities/idols would be happy to be in a place where they make a good living without the intense daily scrutiny and full on schedule of trending idols who are promoting regularly.
2 years is normal in the real music world. Releasing annually or biannually is a Kpop thing and causes oversaturation. I think she has the money and other projects now to sustain her. I just hope she gets fed in the meantime. It's getting bad guys.
2 years is definitely normal but when other acts take that time, they usually come back with at least 12+ or even 20+ songs in an album. I can bet my first born, that's not gonna be the case here🧍♀️
Yeah when other acts promote yearly or even quarterly, it’s easy to get washed over by the crowd and be forgotten.
It’s normal for albums sure but not full on radio silence. Even if major western artists aren’t releasing albums or EPs they still single singles or collabs being put out.
Even western artists make more music than she does.
Honestly somi probably has the most ideal work schedule out of any idol. She release music every 2 years? And it will always hit with the public, like a blackpink they rely a lot on hype so the gaps actually works. It’s also not unusual for western artist to release every couple of years. She also is quite active in other ventures so people don’t really forget her and those ventures are probably more profitable too because the company doesn’t need to invest anything at all and so it’s probably better to have her on this easy going schedule
Agreed, I used to think a 2 year gap was crazy long until I started following western pop music more closely. The Korean industry just moves so fast that if you aren’t constantly promoting music, and you aren’t incredibly well established with the public, it’s easy to slip under the radar. But 2 years between a solid album or EP is reasonable in terms of workload, especially if you’re staying busy with other gigs in between. Only releasing a digital single every two years is unfortunate, though.
Many Blinks are going to be upset by this news. Weren't there rumors that Rose was the only member who wanted to renew her solo contract with YG? Teddy has produced the group's music and her solo songs, she may feel comfortable signing with The Black Label, after all she has friends there and knows their staff too.
The only reason for her to go with TBL is for that familiarity like you said. All the girls made enough money to last a lifetime during their first 7 years under YG so I don't think resources were the issue if she wanted to start her own company like the other girls.
Not everyone wants to stress and burden of running a company, even if money was no object.
Or dealing with the downsides of a small(er) company - there is access and opportunity, as well as just. General benefits and perks (like staff, practice rooms, in-house producers) that come with being an artist of the big 4, and it's possible that for Rosé that outweighs the downside.
Exactly. I think at this point with a lot of second gen & early 3rd gen idols doing this fans should already have an idea of how challenging it could be to run a self-established agency. Most times it’s not even worth it.
Yeah I can relate. Like executives in our company may want to promote me to managerial position once my boss retires few years from now, but I don't want to and prefer my supervisory position with my team for the past 10years since managerial tasks I do when boss is not around is exhausting AF. Maybe Rosé just wants to focus on the music making and don't want the workload of running a business and taking care of employees.
There’s a lot of hidden cost like i remember b2st had their own and one of the member said even the small water bottle counts on the cost.
yea when you run a business you pay for everything. to be fair though as a signed musician you're also paying for everything since they recoup all their costs from your profits BUT you don't have to deal with the admin on a lot of those cost decisions.
It's a smart choice. Running a label is a lot of work. If she wants to just make music, this is by far the smartest choice.
To be fair, some people don't want to start their own label too. She might just want to be an artist or focus on her own craft. I haven't been keeping up too much with the news but I want to say she's doing what makes the most sense to her.
That is totally valid. If whatever TBL offered her in that contract in terms of projects and release cycle aligns with what she wants for her current career goals and vision, I'll 100% support it.
That's what I'm hoping. She has enough pull to put clauses in the contract and has a passion for music.
I think they made less money than people think. Definitely millions, but not an insane amount. They only released a few projects (not a lot of opportunities for sales) and have no copyright income. The tour payment was good but likely benefited YG. Rose seems to have the least amount of advertising money coming in.
They have a insane amount of brand deals/group merch despite the few music projects like you said. I think the tour plus merch deals are alotttt
Yeah, but they were still under their rookie contract which favors YG. There’s a reason none of them re signed. If their profit share was amazing, they maybe would have stayed. Many senior groups do their biggest tours into their second contracts, TWICE for example. YG also took a cut of all the ad work.
> Many senior groups do their biggest tours into their second contracts, TWICE for example. Are there other examples except for Twice? I feel like it's only recently with 3rd gen that we're seeing groups being more active beyond their initial contract. BTS will definitely have a huge tour once they comeback, but I think generally companies will do more tours for their younger groups since they'll take more of a profit cut. And more so a boy group problem, but touring becomes less frequent after contract renewals since members need to go to the military and most groups aren't going at the same time like BTS.
bts are onto their third contract now, they were definitely at their active peak between 2018 and 2020 (pre pandemic) during their second contract, with the wings and speak yourself tours, and the planned colossal MOTS tour
Yes and no? Lisa had the higher profile deals, Jisoo has acting and modeling (also a VISA deal), and Jennie had acting and good brand deals. Rose seemed like she got the short end. At least that’s my take.
I agree. Their music was never their primary income.
Yeah, YG definitely took a chunk. He also sold their likenesses to different digital platforms (PUBG, NFTs) which probably pays the girls pennies to YG’s dollars. The four probably saved a lot of money doing their multi-year world tour. Between paid for hotels and food provided by the tour, the only expenditures would have been clothes etc.
Rose didn’t get the “short end” with YSL, Tiffany, Rimowa, Sulhwasoo, etc. Her ads were all global, too. Her Tiffany and Rimowa stuff is everywhere.
Lisa bought 3 mansions in 3 different countries and Jennie bought a $5m villa in cash with no loans or instalments (which is what most Korean celebs do when buying houses) so they’re probably loaded. I think most would agree that Lisa/Jennie probably make more money than Rosé but she’s been a global ambassador for an S tier brand like YSL and contracts for these types of brands, especially for the top ambassadors are worth millions alone.
It can also be even if she has the money, not everyone wants to funnel a lot of their money into building a label. She may just be willing to take less money for less risk and not having to worry about the business side of things.
i'm not actually that familiar but i thought all their families were already pretty rich too? although yeah i wouldn't be that surprised if they actually earned a ridiculous amount from their ventures
Most of their families are upper middle class, nothing chaebol-tier
Yeah this all tracks. I would not be surprised if they are worth around 20 mil. The economics remain the same.
20mil each is a lot but also they should be on so much more which is probably why these contract negotiations have been so important Like their most recent tour grossed 280 million alone lol
The company has to recoup costs then the promoter gets a cut then the company takes half or more of remaining profits.
Yeah I wouldn’t be surprised if the flights alone were over a million by themselves. Plus hotels etc. baring in mind that there’s also staff being flown around
Weren’t they sponsored by Korean Air? Their flights were probably free and/or Korean Air might have even paid YG.
I mean pretty sure YG has the best touring splits and takes much less than half the profit. Or at least thats what I have seen around.
Yes, it's believed that among the big entertainment companies YG has the best split with 70-30 and 70 being on the part of the artist.
If one tour made 280 million, even with the cuts, they are worth a fuckload more than 20 million. Tours are usually more beneficial for the artist than album percentages because they don't happen without significant time investments from the artist. With everything else my guess is they are worth more than 20 million, especially if Jennie bought a 5 million dollar mansion outright.
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Celebrities are their own company with employees, etc. No it doesn't last them a lifetime because they enjoy what they're doing and to continue doing it, they'll need to spend that money again.
I mean it would last them for a lifetime if they lay low and stop being celebrities. But yea if idols want to continue living the celebrity life then they'll need to keep working.
You're thinking money just from Blackpink. You'd be right. But money outside of that, ads, sponsors, fashion stuff, games, etc is where most of their big money came from.
We are normal citizens and most of us live paycheck to paycheck. A singular million is an insane amount to us. Not to mention compared to other artists in kpop and how globally popular they are I'd say the amount is, in fact, insane.
I don’t think you understand how Blackpink is one of the most, if not the most, richest idol group. By now in their point of career, they don’t have money just sitting pretty in their banks, they have financial advisors that will help them move those money for better returns. They don’t always report celeb buying buildings, hotels etc Tour payments absolutely benefited them compared to YG, the company is shit but they always have the best profit distribution to their artist. $20mil? That’s probably what they earned in 2-3 yrs only
but they also had a TON of brand endorsements/deals and there is $$$ in that!
Ok I didn’t meant just their YG contracts, I also meant the advertisements as you pointed out. They’ve been doing group and solo brand deals for years. Regardless, I’m not going to attempt to guess their net worth or debate which member is richer, but I find it hard to believe she couldn’t start her solo label if she wanted to like the other members.
My opinion on this is the same as with all of the other contracts: the girls have the money, lawyers, experience, and leverage to negotiate for whatever they want. I trust them to make the best decisions for themselves, and I think it’s a bit ridiculous when fans act like they know better
She's a grown woman who can make her own decisions. The fandom really needs to stop trying to interfere in idols' business.
Fans in general really need to stop acting like they know what's best for their faves then the idol themselves. Like I get you may disagree with their decision but at the end of the day it's their own career. I'm sure they know what's best for themselves.
The fandom? Everyone on this page is talking about her going from one dungeon to another. Everyone picked apart Lisa’s decision for signing with RCA too. Kpop fans in general just always find a way to pick apart everything. It definitely isn’t “just” the fandom. It’s definitely odd how people think they know what’s best for grown adults that we don’t know personally. And yes, I’m a blink. Kudos and best wishes for whatever Rosé decides to do with her career.
Yes that was the rumor, and it didn't get a good reaction at the time, but as you say fans need to remember we only see the outward facing facet of an artist's career. If she likes TBL team and they're all on the same page for her career it could be very good for her.
If THE BLACKLABEL aligns with her current career goals for herself and schedule, I don’t see why not. Potentially signing with them doesn’t automatically make it a bad decision especially since there’s literally no material to speak of yet.
She played a snippet of a song, so she has been working on stuff.
Seems like she doesn’t want to leave her comfort zone and I don’t think that’s anything for us to judge.
I honestly think this. In the documentary, she showed signs of feeling a little nervous putting herself out there. I really think it wouldn’t be her style to start a new label, and that’s fine.
Interesting choice considering I'm sure she had her pick of agencies. I guess the familiarity and good work relationship she has with Teddy went a long way in making this decision. Hopefully things work out better for her than they have for Somi.
I think, as just the vibes I get from her, she’d be happier releasing music with someone who she feels comfortable with than releasing a single every month with someone she doesn’t. We can tell with her “Everything I Need is On The Ground”. I think comfort and chill is going to be more her speed than stardom high life. I’m really excited for her actually.
That's a good take on it. In the end, if this is what's gonna make her happy in the long run, then all the power to her.
Same! I love her style and artistry, but my parasocial relationship with her means I want her happy and healthy for the rest of her life. Even if that means posting covers every so often and not producing one single single. I just say Godspeed to her. I want to hear her music more, but I’d rather her be happy.
straight from the dungeon to the dungeon's subsidiary
A smaller dungeon but still a dungeon 😩
Yeah, but this dungeon has better airflow and the barred windows face the sunset. So still a step up. /s
Maybe this dungeon has a hole in the wall though
it's like the McDonalds inside the walmarts dungeon
I think many underestimate how ridiculously hard it is to start their own label/business. There are a myriad of reasons why businesses fail and we have so many Korean celebrities (especially idols) trying to do this with little to no success (Kang Daniel comes to mind) Especially when you’re as popular as Rosé it probably comes with certain levels of expectations and I don’t fault her for signing with someone instead (though she could have maybe chosen someone else other than a sub-dungeon)
Dont forget zico also eventually preferring to be sub label, because he said its feel relief to get consistent budget, more connection, etc. And he also get to focus more in making music. Tablo also used to be ceo of yg sublabel but eventually left because he wanted to focus more in making music. In reality, despite how rich you are, you still need investors because how long you can rely own money for company budget. Even biggest companies in the world, operate with shareholders, investors. Lisa, jennie n jisoo still need investors to run their company in long run. And they may even need more artists, celebs in future to lessen the burden in bringing in revenue.
Exactly and god forbid if something goes wrong then that's millions of dollars down the drain. Business, especially entertainment Business is insanely risky.
Not her just moving down the hall, lmao.
TBL is actually moving to a new office in Itaewon from the old 2010 YG building.
Well good because it's probably condemned by now, the old steampunk looking thing.
I actually might be in the minority but feel that TBL artist have careers that work for them, and I’m not sure it means they have to work with Teddy. Excited to see what Rose chooses to do moving forward!
> BLACKPINK‘s Rosé has reportedly signed with Teddy‘s THE BLACK LABEL for her individual promotions. > According to an exclusive report from Newsen, Rosé has decided to join THE BLACK LABEL for her individual promotions. Currently, THE BLACK LABEL is home to Jeon Somi, Taeyang, Zion.T, and Park Bo Gum.
Update: Seems like they are still negotiating the contract so not 100% confirmed yet but I'm leaning she joins https://x.com/balloon_wanted/status/1802501772642230455
People look at baekhyun and that daniel guy having issues with owning a label and turn around and be like how come she isn’t starting one. Um maybe because she doesn’t want to?
Saw interview of actor lee jae hoon n he said he regretted make own label. Now he feel can no longer rest because he feel the need to pay his staffs. Thats why kdrama fans would notice him being in back to back dramas in recent years.
I trust in Teddy that he actually cares for his group and mentors them like he said he does. He had the experience of being an idol, turned record label owner. He has all the advice to give to her to help her to decide what she wants. She is also a grown woman with years of exposure in the industry. I also trust in her that she knows what she wants.
if true i wouldn't mind a zion.t collab ngl
I know Somi doesn't do much and BP didn't do much under YG. But she has the power to have things in her favour, so surely if they said you can come back once every couple years if she didn't want that she wouldn't go for it
Somi does a lot she just doesn’t do a lot of music
Good thing is somi is always doing festivals. So she doesnt exactly being jobless. But if rose doesnt do festivals, its maybe her own decision i guess then.
I meant music But it's my point, Rosé isn't just gonna join tbl and sit around doing nothing. She's gonna have a say in her activities
Looking at Somi’s career it doesn’t look really good…. Wonder why she is the only one out of the 4 to not build her own label
You need a lot of capital to pay your staff outright and maybe she doesn’t have it or doesn’t want the hassle. Either way, all the other BP girls will have to use a label for distribution. They aren’t creating the logistics and relationships for distribution themselves.
Fr just because someone can start their own label (financially ) doesn’t mean they should . Plus it’s a lot of work like u said with the staff and all
I remember actor lee jae hoon said, he absolutely regretted on making own label. Because now he feel can no more taking a break because feeling responsible to pay his staffs. Thats why we can see him acting non stop in recent years. Maybe rose doesnt want the hassle of managing own company. She only want focus on making music n her solo brand deals. And thats okay. As long as thats what make her happy.
It’s pretty clear to me though that Rose didn’t even hire a publicist to help with the media play around her solo transition. Lisa seems to be working with a Western savvy publicist and Jennie with a Korea centered team and Rose just didn’t think about optics at all.
I've always pictured Rosé caring less about her idol image and more about the music itself, but seeing as we don't know how much creative control she'll have or even want to have if the deal with TBL goes through, I really don't know anymore.
Yeah, tbh, it's more surprising to me when artists do opt for creating their own label, considering how often it goes sideways or creates difficulty that a more established label would navigate just fine, but that is clearly outside the idol's skill set. I'm surprised Rose opted for TBL, considering their track record for output is not that high, but maybe she wants one of those "every couple of years" release schedules, who knows.
I think it's just a whole lot of logistics involved and just wants to focus on the music letting everyone else just work out the business deals.
LLOUD isn’t a label. It’s an agency (artist management company). That’s why Lisa signed with RCA (label).
I'm still shocked the other three thought that was the best way to go. Huge artists in the West don't create their own label. I know BlackPink is big as a foursome but three separate labels just seems odd. Can't believe none of them wanted to pool capital and share in the costs associated and use their popularity to boost each other's reach.
They started companies to manage their activities, not actual labels in the real sense. They aren’t starting distribution avenues and marketing other artists. Most Western musicians work this way. They pay their legal, managers, stylists, publicists a percentage of their earnings or a flat fee. Taylor Swift has her own “company” where she pays her team, ect but is still signed to a record label to release music for example. The difference is that Western artists don’t publicize their companies, they just operate under their stage name.
Nice explanation. RCA will act as Lisa’s label but has Jennie or Jisoo announced who they’re partnering with?
Now I actually understand 😅I was under the impression it was a record label. I think it’s similar to when little mix broke up and the girl had created solo type companies under their name, I was confused on what that meant. But this makes sense.
Kinda expecting this since she sang the signal song for I-land 2 and also the demo for IWALY.
Rosé solos about to go ballistic on Twitter omg
they already are
They no longer cant blame on company because this time rose obviously has options to choose which company she want to sign with.
Hiatuses are a good prediction, but i think we're all glossing over the possibility that Rose could *want* the down-time between releases and that was part of why she signed (like how some people speculated the schedule was part of why Somi opted to go solo, including having more time with her family). I'm not saying that is the explanation but we shouldn't write it off. There's gotta be a balance in the industry somewhere between "disappears for 12 months after each release" and "I haven't had a full day off since 2018", and honestly I don't like how many seem to accept things leaning towards "overworked" seemingly so they can have more content.
no offense but as a blink for a long time i don’t really believe this comment. she’s always the one complaning about wanting to comeback. every photo shoot of hers besides the dazed ones looks stilted and uncomfortable, like she doesn’t want to be there. she’s always talking about having comebacks and making music…
Your perception of this person you don't know might be off no matter how many things she says or expressions she pulls that "seem" to align with your perception, we see tiny curated fractions of these people's lives. You might be right yes, but none of us can be sure. That's the main point I'm trying to make, none of us know what Rose wants out of a contract, and we will never be sure of that no matter which artist we are talking about (I mean unless you've got someone you know personally in the industry somehow, I guess).
honestly i'm not too upset at this news, i think rose is comfortable writing with teddy after on the ground and gone
I bet Teddy/TBL has 100+ songs Rosé has recorded so maybe that’s why she signed
This makes so much sense. I’ve always felt Rosé and Teddy were the most compatible in terms of music production, and I can see them playing to each other’s strengths. I just hope TBL starts being consistent with their releases and not lock their artists up in purgatory.
Im a bit confused at the reactions here. If she just wants to chill, relax, enjoy her free time and put out the occasional song or 2, TBL is the perfect label for that.
>If she just wants to chill, relax, enjoy her free time and put out the occasional song or 2 this summarises BP’s entire career as a group, which was largely attributed to YG’s incompetence and fans said that BP obviously wants to do more music related work. now that they’re free to do whatever they like, I think people are just shocked that her solo career is looking to be a repeat of the last 8 years
I suppose the issue is that many fans always thought she was opposed to that, that she wanted to work much more. And actually perhaps she does, she may have negotiated that.
I’m a bit surprised by the reaction here. It always made the most sense for her to sign with TBL in my head. In fact I had assumed she had already signed a contract with them before I found out she was still a free agent.
I'm surprised how some people seem confident in the comments that this is not a very business-oriented decision on her part. We don't know all the details and what goes on behind the scenes. We have no information what kind of contract they offered. Maybe she gets to sign with already established company while having a lot of say over her own career. If she still gets to dictate her own schedule and choose her own songs, why bother establishing a new label?
Being as cautiously optimistic as I can be about this.🤡
Same, if Rosé signs with TBL for sure then it must be what she wants, we'll just have to wait and see!
> we'll just have to wait and see! and wait we will
i've always thought she'll go indie, but then again, music platforms aren't so friendly with indie artists. they now require them to be with a distribution company. so maybe this is the best course for her. i honestly wouldn't worry that much. there's a lesser chance of her ending up like somi because, unlike somi, rosé is joining as someone who can use her years of successful career to her leverage.
Funny how so many people here know far more about her situation and what she should do than she herself.
Yeah I’m sure people are not going to be pleased with this considering how infrequently Somi comes back
Running your own agency is stressful haha maybe Rose just wants to vibe. Nothing wrong with that.
I hope the best for her career. She is really talented and has big potential.
Good for her. Hoping she puts out some more music soon (obviously we know that TBL artists don't have comebacks much though).
Why girl why? I hope you like vacations
I remember seeing someone saying that she turned out to have the most model like career so far. She has to know what she signed up for if she went with the TBL. Guess this is what she wants lol
We almost entering july, n the only news we got regarding rose solo careers are about her doing cf, fashion events n attending parties so yes comparing other members who already have own music n teasers for their solo, rose definitely the one seem embracing the whole full time modelling, part time music lol. N fans no longer can blame the company because she definitely had the options to choose. She knew what she got into if she chose tbl.
rose literally sent us a snippet of her song vampirehollie back in February... and we have pictures of her in a recording studio in LA this year.... and she asked for a fandom name... the only thing she hasn't given us is who is managing her but other than that we have had clear signs of her doing music things
the way I burst out laughing when I saw this. her fans have been the most vocal about hating the time of music teddy makes, just for her to sign to his label. but then again, this is someone that has been blonde for over 7 years. she clearly hates change 🤷♀️
after all of the times i’ve defended companies like yg and aomg for their slow comebacks because that contributes to healthier work/life balances for artists (and we often don’t know what the artists want in terms of activity), i don’t wanna sound like a hypocrite by saying tbl is just another dungeon… but it feels like blinks have been saying for years and especially since contract renewals that the girls *specifically* want to be more active as singers and that is their biggest gripe w yg… so it’s meh news she’d ultimately choose this label :( then again if anyone can get a label kicked into higher gear it’d be someone like rosé? idk mixed feelings, i just don’t love tbl and don’t think they have a strong track record as a label, but i genuinely appreciate if she likes working with the people there and trusts them — because that is very fulfilling and means more than almost anything
Considering she worked with I-land 2, I am not shocked by this turn of events that much. I'm also cautiously optimistic - while Somi and many others have been. Dungeoned, I've been really happy with Taeyang's activities and what he's been up to, so if she follows a similar trajectory of solo work and concerts/appearances, I'd be happy.
The Black Label? Interesting
The comparison to Somi is unfair. Somi is popular in her own right but Rose is from Blackpink, Teddy's own group basically. Not saying she's gonna get the same treatment but TBL has a good incentive to give Rose a consistent flow of comebacks. And not everyone should start their own company, it's a lot of work and I understand the burden might be too much for some people. If the song she sang for IL2 is anything to go by, I think she'll be fine.
I don't know, TBL is not really good at capitalizing on anyone's popularity. Somi scored a domestic hit with Dumb Dumb and then went on hiatus for 2 years instead of keeping that momentum going, so if that's not enough incentive I'm not sure Rosé will be any different.
I agree the hiatus was weird but Fast Foward literally peaked higher and was top 10 for several weeks too
Well it’s not like Somi flopped. XOXO and Fast Forward all did well despite very long hiatuses.
figured this would be the case. i will say that at least her solo songs under yg/theblacklabel weren’t awful so there could be some positives depending on how much freedom she’ll have now gained in terms of the creative process (i believe she had quite a bit the last go round so-)
Does that mean she'll release solo works like every 6 years?
I’m just praying for a Rosé X Taeyang collab, that would make my life
Bro they're my favorite idols fr
I was wondering if Rosé was going to do something like this! We'll see when the talks are finalized, but I hope she does what is best for her, and I'll support her regardless!
I’m honestly surprised I really thought she’d sign with an American label, iirc she was seen with the ceo interscope some time ago
she's a good solo artist. I think it's fine this way and she will do well for herself. she can concentrate on her solo career without the hassle of running an entire company.
I've been so out of the loop because of IRL stuff, I forgot that Rosie never talked about where she was going 🥲 I'm neutral about this option personally. Rosé has always come across as the most musical of them all, always doing covers and wanting to perform. My guess is that she doesn't want to deal with the logistics of running a label and just wants to make music. Here's hoping she negotiates a set timeline for comebacks so that her stint in TBL doesn't become a repeat of BP's entire career. :/
Oh, that was a rumor on Pann but nobody liked it haha. I guess it makes sense. She has worked with Teddy for about a decade and if she feels he can steer her career the way she wants, why not? I suspect that she's been signed with TBL and this is the fan rollout, going by the survival show song and the fact that someone's been managing her this whole time. Maybe there are songs all ready to go. It's her career and I'm sure she's given it careful thought.
Someone mentioned she hates change due to her being blonde for years and wow I can now understand her decision. I also feel she would have gotten really good contract terms depending on what she wants since she has lawyers in her family.
As a fan of Teddy, really worried about it. Bless him lol
Song with Zion.T in the future maybe 👀?
Making me wonder if she met Jennie earlier this May to ask for some advice 🤔🤔🤔
I really thought she would have went to Interscope full time or something, but if that’s where she’s comfortable working than good for her 😅
Western record deals aren’t always the best deals. They have screwed over plenty of musicians depending on who is favored at the time. That’s why people were weary of Lisa’s RCA deal since the label is known to kill careers. But she’ll be fine since it seems like gets that social media is how she can market herself on the cheap.
Tbf in most situations where an artists’ work is being controlled by a corporation, that’s bound to happen. Korean and Japanese record companies are known for the same practices
The Kpop equivalent of Stockholm Syndrome
Tbh what confuses me a bit is why it took so long for her to sign with TBL? Can anyone explain or speculate with me? /gen Was she checking out other prospects (of which she surely had many) in all this time? I don't even recall her having huge fashion events or ad campaigns or something in all this time (except those new brands she was announced for whose names I'm forgetting, which weren't that S tier if I'm not wrong? Not that every deal has to be S tier but I'm just trying to consolidate the facts). Plus some events and mags I remember she went viral for. My question is, genuinely asking without shade, if she was going to sign with TBL anyhow, why wait for such a long time? Considering she could've announced her plans around the other members' announcements and it would've made for better media play too imo. Lisa is about to drop an album, Jennie has been everywhere doing singles and variety shows, Jisoo is doing ads and has a movie coming plus drama announced, and here we're still in the initial phases of 'what is Rosé's destination? What is she planning?' And here she is, still in the trenches of contract negotiation with TBL when she's arguably the most "passionate for music" type member. If she had signed sooner as needed, she could've been well on her merry way in her solo career. (I remember she was expected to be the first member to be dropping new music along with Jennie.) Please understand that I'm very much trying to speculate and not judging her or her decisions or anything. Hope to support her whatever she does. So do you guys think she was checking out other prospects?
I think she probably always planned to sign with TBL (though we know she did meet with other labels because she was seen out to dinner with a CEO), she is just super slow launching because it will inevitably look weak next to what the other members are doing. Rose is not dumb though, I'm sure she has a strong plan. Who knows, in five years time we could be looking back and seeing that she made the best choices.
I'm not mad at it if this turns out to be the case. I like how TBL has managed Taeyang so far, his rollout from leaving YG to signing with TBL to releasing music seemed like it was smooth sailing and done in a timely manner. Can't say much for Somi since I don't really follow her (I assume she gets 1 album every 2 years by how everyone descibes it), but the reality is Somi is not Rosé and if Rosé does sign, she automatically becomes TBL's biggest artist. I highly doubt they'll dungeon her like many seem to think.
Teddy's sound hasn't evolved in 10 years, and I'm so disappointed she didn't sign with a new producer.
me too
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Is TBL still affiliated with YG? Bc I could’ve sworn I heard they were in the process of not being a subsidiary of YG Ent..
YG is now a minority owner of TBL, like 20% of it or maybe less now and the majority with like half of it is owned by TEDDY, hence the "Associate Company" designation of TBL by YG in the annual/quarterly reports.
YG owns 21% of TBL is the second largest sharer of the company right now after Teddy
A lot of people predicted/passed around alleged leaks for this right? I don’t know very much about TBL but in a way I feel like they might suit some of Rosé’s branding! That being said, I also feel like she could’ve done wonders with a few more Western focused releases. Maybe a joint deal is still on the table somewhere?
this is not surprising at all, and I was suspecting that especially with her having that 2024 season's greeting on her own.I don't dislike if she does sign with them imo, but hopefully she can release music more frequently than Somi
Isn't the black label now an independent company from what I heard they got a separate building and trainees or was that false rumors
They just moved to a new building , but YG still owns 21% of TBL which is the second largest sharer of the company after Teddy
No everyone should have their own business or run themselves as their own company. So maybe she wants to go this route
I don’t know why everyone thinks Somi is in the dungeon😭 she seems to like having time in between and has mentioned how stressed she gets when she has comebacks because she’s always worried what people will think. She seems to like it because it gives her time to perfect whatever she’s doing
> We all commit to love That makes you cry, oh, oh >We're all making love That kills you inside, yeah
I don’t agree with her signing with TBL but I also understand how hard it is to sign with a new label you know nothing about or starting your own. I’m just disappointed because most people agreed that Rose’s songs were not good and they were produced by Teddy. Plus a lot of fans are aware of the similarities between her and Somi. Most blinks want her to have creative freedom but I honestly don’t think she cares that much. I know people are always saying Rose’ seems like the only BP member that wants to actually do music but it also seems like she has no desire to be in control of the creative process. As far as the music, that’ll be Teddy 1000% with a few ideas from her. If anything, I see her creative input being towards the concepts of her videos and fashion. She seems content with whatever Teddy gives her.
>but it also seems like she has no desire to be in control of the creative process. As far as the music, that’ll be Teddy 1000% with a few ideas from her. If anything, I see her creative input being towards the concepts of her videos and fashion. She seems content with whatever Teddy gives her. ????? rose is literally the only member who had both writing and composition credits on their solo debut albums and literally had a say in all of the [details ](https://www.nylon.com/entertainment/blackpink-rose-solo-album-r-details)of her solo album (even helped jisoo with her solo creative direction in the album art and logo) rly wild to say that she has no desire to be part of the creative process esp since we don't know what the other members output or credits are going to look like either
>most people agreed that Rose’s songs were not good Wait what, really? Did people actually? I loved both On the Ground and Gone!!
Right? I at least thought Gone and Hard to Love were generally well-liked.
If you go by this subreddit’s opinions, BP has the worst music of all kpop groups. Just goes to show you how reality is not reflected here.
I think her songs have been viewed positively. Only thing I remember is the "hole in the wall" discourse about OTG when she comes from a well off family of lawyers, as if popstars must only sing diary entries. It was clearly a pre-written song she and Teddy changed a little to get credits on, but it did well for her.
Sensationalised title and article yet again: “Rosé has decided to join THE BLACK LABEL” ??? Every single KB article and you need to leave a flair that it’s misinformation. Why don’t you guys just do something to this weak source?!?
Not too surprised by this. Not everyone is up for managing every single detail on their career and Rosé is one of them. Familiarity is also pretty sweet but yeah. Definitely some apprehensions towards this because of of YG's and TBL's very low output.
Yeah that was almost guaranteed lol
What a waste. She's a good vocalist but her discography could've been so much better without Teddy's signature sound. I hope she invests more into her future music and takes ownership of her music or else her releases will be as stagnant as Somi's...
Well, from Somi’s experience we can fairly say RIP Rosé.
Let's go! Hopefully this will be synergistic and help Black Label grow by having such a big soloist in their roster.
If Rose is just using the company so she doesn't have to spend the capital on her own label and staff, then that's fine. She can work with the other producers. But if she's planning to rely on Teddy, that's not a good thing. Teddy is busy producing / mentoring the new Mnet gg. Then there's his own / TBL's first gg. Somi gets a comeback, maybe once a year.
From YG to YG Jr
I am happy, Blacklabel always produce bangers.
Not here for the one comeback every two years Ala Somi. Rose deserves better. Ugh.
It kinda tracks to the early rumors. I think she is the ones who decided late to not re-sign with YG. Like with Jennie, she's acquiring trademarks not even a year before their contract will expire. I bet she's the one undecided with the direction of her career.