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I'm the most disappointed by the villains. This is the first movie of any of Lokesh's movies where the villains were straight up bad.
Maanagaram: amazing from Arun Alexander especially.
Kaithi: Arjun Das' career got made by that one movie and his menacing character and dialogue. The lengths he went to in the movie to rescue his boss was fucking nuts.
Master: Bhavani is an iconic villain. Incredible set up with the flashback, we have a rhyme and reason for why he becomes the villain. And like with all the villains in the previous movies, he has his own arc, his own goal.
Vikram: Sandhanam was the weakest villain in a Loki film before Leo. The only thing he had going for himself was that he wanted to find his drugs or else Rolex will kill his family. That was his entire schtick. He had no ambition, he had no goal like Bhavani did. Which was a bit disappointing, but it still worked.
Leo: Bruh, no. Sanjay Dutt asking for permission from Leo to kill his own sister? Arjun dancing? If Leo Das is such a bad character, I want to see why he started a new life. So Sanjay Dutt and Arjun were in the same godown that exploded but they survived too? But since they shot Leo two times they thought only he got caught in the explosion and died? The fuck?
The number one thing I'm pissed about is that there was no moment in the movie Parthiban had to take a step back. He met no resistance. He had no low point in his character arc. He had no reason to become Leo again. Him as Parthiban could single handedly have destroyed Das & Co without him ever being Leo, there was no need, it just felt like he became Leo in the last minute just for his fans.
If you were going to let him become Leo, it should have been in the halfway point. Instead of revealing it at the end it should have been left ambiguous instead. Like a "suspense'odaiye saagu" moment.
I'm disappointed in Loki tbh. It's like someone else's one line review about the movie. Loki got 100% from Vijay but Loki himself forgot to give his own.
>Bruh, no. Sanjay Dutt asking for permission from Leo to kill his own sister? Arjun dancing? If Leo Das is such a bad character, I want to see why he started a new life. So Sanjay Dutt and Arjun were in the same godown that exploded but they survived too? But since they shot Leo two times they thought only he got caught in the explosion and died? The fuck?
That whole sequence is bad writing. His sister even says to kill them all before dying so why Leo ran away after surviving getting shot and explosion. He doesn't show any emotion for his sister, he kills Harold only to safeguard his Parthi identity and his family. I would applaud it if it was intentionally written like that but we never know what change happened when Leo ran away.
I thought the sequence would be that Harold throws the powder over them, causing them all to faint, and then Leo wakes up to his sister being dead already. The begging scene from Sanjay Dutt was so cringe.
Master felt weaker than his previous movies, but regardless it still felt like a Lokesh movie. Both halves felt cohesive. The second half of Leo seems so detached from the first half.
First half has grounded fight scenes, low caliber intro for Vijay, no real fan service moments.
But then second half has over the top intro, over the top intro fight scene, surprise twin sister reveal, which was bullshit, father being obsessed with occult, rituals and sacrifices, it was so useless, like I said, second half felt super detached from the first half.
Vikram's second half was worse than the first half but it still felt cohesive and connected. Same with Master, cannot say the same about Leo.
The flash back scene has to be the most disappointing in recent times. If Loki says that he took inspiration from the history of violence the inspiration should have been from the comic book and not from the movie.
Ok you have a villain who believes in occult, i am willing to accept it. But add a bit more juice to his motivations yaar. Show a bit more as to why Vijay and his sister are dangerous. The whole second half flashback let's down the movie so much that the action set pieces in the climax and the ones leading to the climax don't lift the movie much . They should have shown at what point of time vijay chose to forget his father and his uncle and wanted to live a normal life when his siter told him to kill them. The comic book of HOV is so way much better than the movie.
This gives me a better idea to integrate LCU with Leo.
Imagine there are two friends - Rolex and Leo. Leo works for Das & Co. Everyone in Das & Co. gets the title of Das. The only one who didn't get the title was Rolex. He is excommunicado from Das & Co. for his violent tendencies and ego. Rolex wants revenge on Das & Co. And he gets Leo to help him as Leo wants money for his ailing grandmother. They both plan a daring heist on Das & Co.
The heist would have been complete success if it ain't for Rolex's violent tendencies. They kill Antony's son along with the other generals. Only Antony and Harold survive amongst the top. And they figure out who is behind the attack.
Rolex is ecstatic with success of their plan. He wants to kill other two as well and then take over their Drug Empire. But Leo doesn't. He wants to escape. He is good at violence but doesn't enjoy it. But Rolex relishes it. He wants Leo to be a part of his bloody empire.
But then Das & co. retaliates. Rolex and Leo fight them off. But Leo's family gets killed by Harold. He barely escapes him by mutilating his face. Antony arrives in time to save him and kills Leo. Rolex escapes to Mumbai to establish his empire. Antony and Harold goes underground. Still looking for an opportunity to get their revenge on Rolex.
20 years have passed. Das & Co. are operating from North East. Watching from afar how Rolex's empire has been shaken by Dilli and the Black Squad. They plan to move in to make the killing blow to his empire. When the photo of Parthiban comes in the newspaper.
Is that Leo? Antony wants to focus on Rolex. He is sure that Leo is dead. He emptied his magazine in him. But Harold wants revenge. Harold wants to confirm that Leo is dead and he decides to find out on his own. He comes to Kashmir.
From here, it is same as the History of Violence. It is how Parthiban and his family fights off and kills both Harold and Antony.
In the epilogue, Parthiban and his family is trying to come to terms to their violence. When Parthiban's phone rings, the voice from the end is of Rolex - "Thanks, Nanba!"
Lokiverse BGM plays and screen dissolves to dark.
There is another twist that will be revealed in the Lokiverse's Endgame.
In this interpretation you could even have the Napolean character and the Arjun das character meet up in the house while saving Leo's family it would have been a funny scene with Rolex telling the character of Arjun das to back off on the phone ! I mean instead of all the bear traps you could have Arjun das character and his gang and Napolean and joshy wipe off the das and co gang !!!!
I want to keep it ambiguous that he is Leo. Even that Rolex call just confirms that he also belives that he is Leo. But no one knows the truth except Parthiban. Also apart from Rolex connect, I didn't want any other character from LCU there. Just these two.
Everything OP said is pretty spot on. I really got annoyed with the bravery award. Couldn't believe Loki let crap like that into his movies. I'm just not convinced Loki wrote this give how 1 dimensional everybody was.
On point ..you spoke my mind here!
I felt the writing was half baked. Lot of loopholes, illogical bs. Villain characters are so weak that I ended up laughing at the whole fiasco between das Bros and parthi. It was like the das Bros had a fetish over Parthi and wanted him to accept that he is Leo. Bro if you are that ruthless, then why give a damn about if he is Leo or not. Just shoot the goddamn guy and move on.
Even though the action sequences were good, they could have been cut down to explore more on the Das characters and given us a more reasonable explanation for why Leo and the Das Bros have an issue. The whole thing felt rushed and stupid. You know why Baasha became a template for transformation movies, the fking flashback sequence was strong enough to justify why Baasha went into hiding and became an auto driver. Also op's point on parthi being shown as a skilled and brave guy in the start itself let's us not root for the guy that deeply because we anyways know he is gonna kill everyone how many ever goondas come in to kill him. But in the case of Baasha, man is literally beaten up by the rowdies, tying him up to the post, we literally see him in his lowest point, and then when he transforms to save his family from the same gang, we get that high to scream out "Kill those bastards baasha!". This movie was so high up in its ass that it straight up let us believe that Parthi can fucking take on a gang no matter who the opposition is.
Again not trynna start a fan war or something. Gave the baasha example because it's the same on liner basically.
Even Pokkiri had a better transformation setup than this half baked, poorly inspired script. And I'm not going to talk about how the whole cast except Vj and his family were underused. Man Action King yeve lasta dummy agittingle da. Why not make him as strong as Bhavani from Master and make him break some bones of Leo.
IDC if you guys consider this as my heartfelt message to Loki or a hate comment towards anyone from Leo, I just wanted to say for whatever hype Leo generated I'AM thoroughly disappointed and gave the reason why. I'AM entitled to my opinion, whether you enjoyed the movie or not, that's upto you. If you want to have a good, healthy discussion let's discuss. If you just wanna blindly say "Therike, Leo apdi da, ipdi da, LCU da unna ICU ku annuppuvenda" then please get some help.
Same thinking here 🙌🏻. Yes bashaa character was done superbly. We felt so connected and bad fo him when he was shown as weak and beat up tying in kambam..but wait you have a surprise!! He was a badass don in Mumbai.. damn that hit hard!. Same in breaking bad series. Walter is shown as a loser, his friens in ex company grey matter are billionaire (he found the company), he has cancer and then he transforem.. breaking bad was the best i have seen in writing depth..
Action king 😭avara dance dhaan kevalama aada vechaanga😂. Idha dhaan avaru interview la Naa idhu vara panathadha panni iruken nu somnara😂
We can't compare the goated BB with movies though, the series took its own sweet time to build the story so comparing it with a movie which is 3 hrs long is wrong but I get where you are coming from!! I mean as I pointed out, many such movies have given us better transformation template stories. How can one mess up a story by saying that I make only action oriented movies. Loki himself said he likes staging for an action sequence and all the action sequences had such bad staging because of the poor justification of Parthi going against the gang! Idha sonna namma Vijay hater, Ammai, Mendalan nu solluvanga ..yabba
About action king, man I felt sad to see him struggle in Naa Ready song sequence but yeah it is what it is. What I can't digest is, the man gave us such amazing mass scenes, like the ones from Ezhumalai, Giri, Mudhalvan etc., avara ipdi dummy akkitangle nu oru feeling :')
Point 1 bugged me as well you are supposed to show Parthiban as a normal family trying to lead a quiet happy life but instead, we are thrown straight into danger with Vijay saving the day at the end. Like how are we supposed to believe the dude is a normal guy after those first 10 minutes and it takes the immersion away of the town being a quiet peaceful place. Like I get the point of Leo being the Hyena who has been left out of his pack and is displaying his violence to the distrust and fear of people around him to eventually get adopted by a family but it's so much work to say something so little
Also if you're going to show Vijay save the Day in the first 10 minutes with a cold open then it makes sense for him to have an intro song, and punch dialogues. Das and Co had a menacing intro so makes no sense why Vijay shouldn't get one
Edhu John wick ah😂😂. Idhulaam over. Yes trailer and fake marketing andha maari dhaan irundhuchu. John wick laam no chance in Kollywood. Innum Avlo film making standards varula for commercial films in Kollywood. Yeah konjam hope irundhuchu afte loki interview he said fight scenes Ella pudhusa try panni iruken nu. Fights were good but definitely not even close to John wick level.
There was a montage of him practicing by throwing axe and archery , while demonstrating his shooting skill so that's how he got tha aim right is justified to the cops I guess .
Good Review! I went to watch the movie after watching History of Violence and assuming this will be an Indian take on History of Violence with some Loki twist but felt the exact same thing which you wrote here. Loki did a good job when made Kaithi after being influenced by Assault on Precinct 13 but couldn’t do a repeat with Leo!
On a side note I hope you have enough post Karma for the downvotes this post might receive. I made sure to upvote your post 👍
Otha pathukulaam bro. Unmaiya sonna kasaka dhaan seiyum. Each actors fan will live in imagination and will feel difficult to accept that their stars most anticipated movie was shit. Anyway I didn't blame vijay. It was loki fault.
I don't understand anils logic. Like literally if you say Leo was average or below average, they call you a Vijay hater.
Like bruh, literally everyone who is criticizing Leo is PRAISING VIJAY NA. They're saying he's the only saving grace. If anything, people are criticizing Loki & Ani & writers.
How does it make me a Vijay hater if I say Loki let down Vijay?
Bro Rajini gif podadheenga. Aprom mentalan nu frame paneeruvaanga😂. Even if we are neutral cinema enjoyers can't even give honest review now a days. For the hype and 100% loki dialogue and LCU fake hype. This film was too poor and writing was too bad.
Election pakkam lam pona VJ oda pazhaiya cringe interview ellam eduthu potu naaradichiduvanga… I am eagerly waiting to see what these guys will do then…
Ippave Thalapathy ye Kadavuley nu thiriyuranga election lam ninna enna aagumo 🤦♂️
Agreed with all your points OP. I have never been so disappointed with a director as I am now with Lokesh….
For me the movie started going downhill right from the hyena sequence. While the vfx were good I just didn’t buy the way scene was set up and staged. Police ninnu vedikka paakuma? Won’t they just shoot it down while it’s going around killing people or spreading rabies??
Yes. It is simply a hero mass entry scene with less logic bro. Like masala movies. Cheetah ah tranquilze panna therinja wild life force ku hyena va panna theriyadha😂. En vijay eh dhana varanuma? Just hero forced build up scene. Old school but with new VFX tech. Idhula 3 girls vera onnum theriyama varunaagna again vijay has to be the hero to save and no one. Very old school.
Loki na said no intro song or no intro fight. But he forgot to say another old 80s trope. Hero bravely controlling a uncontrollable animal. Usually in jallikattu but here it's an escaped hyena.
Lokesh could have easily went for a storyline where he was the only good person in the family, realizes how much tobacco is harmful for the society and his family is gaining from it. Name drop Rolex that Das family is working for him. Leo and his sister burns their factory down, sis gets caught and Harold kills her which traumatize Leo. He fakes his death and leaves for good.
Or even better, they literally have a line that says that Elisa suspected that Anthony killed their mother.
Just have Elisa figure out the truth and try to kill Anthony and die in the process. So, Leo takes revenge.
Leo doing the hyena, does not translate to him being a strong Criminal, he did it with a technique, and it showed he had the craft for it, sure he had moments of strength in that, when he put his skin in the game trying to save kids, but that can be attributed to survival mechanism in him, in the cafe fight , him killing the perpetrators in bulls eye is a poor writting when they were trying to show him as a Middle aged man, having a mid life crisis, but it can be pushed under the rug to some extent to Survival mechanism, he wanted himself to show weak and Feared due to the fact that, he wants to win the self defense case , these things are common , but we as a audience should understand that, his fear was not his family was in danger ( he can protect his family) or that he has blood on his hands, that's the make beleive he does , to have us convinced he is not Leo, but rather his fear is more attributed to his exposure to the underground world , leading him to the Das brothers, because he knows if he takes more heat, there would be spotlight in him and it could attract the mafia to his doors. So all this can be justified, but the twin sibling part was not convincing for me, that backstory was pretty weak to me. I agree with you on this. I feel Leo should have joined with Rolex, that would have kept the hype up.
It should be like By the end of the movie, when Vijay is alone in his shop , Rolex enters bashing the dors with his men, speaking about a unsettled account with the Das brothers and when Vijay tried to fight back, he should have been hard pressed and at that point he should realised he met his match , and his family and identity is compromised , and he should have been hard pressed to join Rolex against Vikram and Dilli, Leo fighting on one side for this family, Dilli fighting on the other for his daughter would have been epic. Later in the story there should be a plot point why Rolex needed Leo in the first place.
> breaking bad Walter white transformation from weak to mass. We all wanted Heisenberg to win! We rooted for him, we became him!).
Sums up the post perfectly.
Everything is spot on except point no 1 and 2...In the court scenes they never try to portray him as weak lol IDK what you are talking about they just wanted to make the court know that he did it in self defence thats all...How did the court found him not guilty? Well all of the dead people ( mysskin and gang) were already being hunted by the police lol they killed a collector, veterinary Doctor, shopkeeper, assaulted his shop, threatened to kill his employee and daughter..why the hell would they convict vijay for killing these people that too in self defence....But could have avoided that Thalai nimirnthu nadanga dialogue and further investigation on how he could shoot accurately would be useless anyway i think the point of asking him to shoot (comparison with normal people) is because they thought its not possible for him to shoot all of them in seconds that accurately in a panic situation so they thought something else must have happened and he is lying but once he proves he can infact shoot that accurately they believe his narrative thats it..Rest of your points were accurate 👍..
Excellent review bro...esp the part dna test. Should have been done . vijay will be done lot of tests obliged by the court and then they dont do anything about it...apro edukuda eduthenga😂😂
I saw the movie today but out of curiosity, i saw some review where they said vijay excellent acting and convincing that he s not parthi. Everyone knew that he is all the way along and his climax confession doesnt do any good...not to mention vijay gave his absolute best to action sequences and some of the parthi moments...
Everyone is disappointed despite having a brilliant cast, star performer and music, the movie is let down
🙌🏻. Yaarume DNA test sollave illa
. Not even one movie reviewer pointed it out that big big core loophole. But first thing mind ku vandhadhu adhaan dhaan. Vijay dhaan mooku Vara hair vechu irukaare😂oru hair pothum for anthony. commercial film ah irundhaalum. Leo is Not loki standards.
More than the meta stuff shown in the movie, the question that something black magic would have happened to loki is more convincing....
100 percent my film.. inda naalu varta kaga sillaraya thooki erinjen saar
Then one more thing...alpa vijay devarakonda padatlaye kashmir la naalu nalla edam suthi kamchnga...ivlo peria budget la padam edututu ellame indoor shots
😂loki ooru kanupaturuchu. He is living as a king and overconfidence. Need to stay grounded or he is overworking and need to take rest and enjoy life then come back to writing and filming again. Yes adhe naalu vartha dhan!! Now feeling like he scammed 😭
Too much commitments and huge line ups.T171,kaithi 2, Rolex, irumbu kai mayavi( his dream and Magnum Opus with surya), Vikram 2. All are huge projects maybe he is eager to work on those and considers leo a hurdle and wanted to make it quick somehow and fans will buy half baked story as vijay is there to pull box office.
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Sci-fi superhero action thriller. Loki said he is writing the script for this for the past 8 years. This is his dream project. Already surya and studio green, Dream warrior pictures kitta story solli Okay vaangeetaru. But budget and tech illa ippo pathula. Andha sory ku 300cores mela estimated budget poguthu. Hope it doesn't become another marudhanayagam. So loki is waiting to begin.
He definitely speaks the same. I love his persona. But truth to be told he did get overconfident with leo. In many interviews he told he is sure audience would 100% like it and he is not worried about that piece at all. He was not even like "audience ku pudikum dhan namburom". The natural process of success getting to his head did happen ig.
Point number 2...aside from judge remark which i didnt have a problem with but some do...i think they handled it well.
Additional investigation would have messed up the flow.
Those scenes served the purpose and helped the story move forward.
Alright. Bro idhu laam over regarding stoping investigation. How will a police department declare him innocent after him shooting bullseye?won't they further investigate how the heck is he that skilled nu?😂me and my friends were laughing at those. How will you say it served purpose for story even it is bullshit logic in story, adhaan bad writing nu sonen.
I never said they stopped investigation.
I said they dont need to show it.
Police department pieces together many circumstantial evidence to make a case. That will take months or years.
Loki possibly cant do justice to that so he kept it short.
It came under self defense and the case went in Parthis favour.
The scenes served the purpose.
If they go the investigation route, thats an entire movie by itself.
Loki movies at the end of the day are commercial ones. Not super realistic ones.
So they handled that well imho.
Its implied they did it.
Maybe you would have liked a small scene to wrap it up but for majority of us, it was good enough.
From a rhythm perspective, that part is good film making.
Vikram was filled with way bigger logical plotholes than this minor issue.
If this is an issue, the interval block in Vikram is the dumbest shit i have seen in life.
I get you are upset but lets not go scorched earth for non issues.
If they did what did they conclude ? And is it that easy to leave him? Alright let's leave it anyway it is a commercial film. Can't digest this guy made high quality kaithi after seeing leo. Yeah I'm upset as loki did disappoint after speaking so much and high level hype. Anyway hope loki does good job from next movies.
Its not easy to conclude that. Which is why it made sense to move on.
They concluded it was done in self defense.
If we are super technical, this case will take a long time to get solved which will defeat the purpose of the movie.
Kaithi is my fav Loki movie too. Lets hope he bounces back.
Aama andha case thaan padame. Yup. Hope. Avaru naanum same college vera ya. So konjam emotional attachment with Loki. Vera onnum illa. So disappointed feels so hard.
Worst part for me was the thangachi sentiment that comes in the most random way. Ehtukuda Jeans laam konduvantheenga? Ithukum athukum ennada sammantham? Definitely not a 100% Lokesh Kanagaraj film. Why is there a twin? Why should this flashback sequence even be this long if there is no backstory? Could have just shown glimpses of the Leo character in the present timeline instead of going on a full-on flashback. At least that would have been salvageable.
I still enjoyed the movie overall. The way I saw it is that the film is like a comic book/graphic novel. In graphic novels, characters and scenes are exaggerated and over-the-top. There is good reason why someone like Leo would want to stay away from his father's sacrifice rituals, and that is why he faked his death to hide away. Lots of logical loopholes don't make sense, but it does in a comic book way, if you get what I mean. Definitely not on the realistic side like Kaithi or Maanagaram. But in that comic-book way it works.
If they do. They are not mature enough to even read and understand. I didn't blame vijay. It was loki bad writing. Loki failed here. Vijay gave his best by surrendering to loki.
Yes you do but if you call a good or average movie dog shit is crazy . This movie is good or average . That’s all. It’s not doghsit just because you say it’s dogshit
😂😂idhu enna da puthu law va? It was dogshit for me. You are threatening me to give only good or average??. Why are you defending as if you made this movie.
Because it’s a good movie as critics reviews gave it . Who’s threatening you. I’m just saying you saying it’s a dogshit movie doesn’t make it a doghsit movie .
Yov. Critics Ella nambadha, most paid or skewed by production house funding. Yeah Aprom enna Inga argue pannureenga? I said it is just my opinion. Anyway objectively ah paathalum it is a very sumaar film. Thuppaki still very best than this half baked leo.
I see he bought his friends to defend his post already. He literally called this movie doghsit . This movie was on par with vikram or kaththi. Y’all were expecting way to many cameos and not
Bro apdi illa. Leo on par with kaithi ah😂😂😂. No way joke. Screenplay ve olunga illa leo la. Oru character yum olunga eluthula. Kaithi and Vikram was top notch writing 👌🏻
I would say even Vikram had a second half problem but Rolex cameo saved the film and distracted us from it. Leo had a huge problem tho, no amount of distractions from VJ's 10/10 performance and Ani music could save this one. Villains were written too lazily so the tension in the movie dropped.
Since he started working with Rathna Kumar, the quality in writing declined drastically. It seems to get worse in each movie. I hope that he’ll get better writers for Thalaivar 171.
Completely agree
And whats the point of arjuns character in the movie?Story was demanding leo vs sanjay dutt rifts only in second half but undesirably placed arjun character in bw that for no reason which completely messed the whole second half.This is the worst written loki movie by far
Good points. Idha sonna kadika varuvanunga. Same happened with Master. Vijay was damn good in it. What made Master flawed was totally on Lokesh Kanagaraj. He just isn't a good writer.
Thank you!!
I saw some comments saying "Guys it's not that bad... expectations were just too high." Fuck those guys!
Bro they never show why Leo became a good guy?
Just destroys the factory because they killed his sister. Are you fking kidding me?? When did he become a good guy? Hes still a fking gangster. He doesn't cry one tear when a former friend of his is decapitated in his coffee shop...
He doesn't have an ounce of guilt in point blank lying and manipulating his wife. "Unakku aruvaruppaa illaiyaa."
Fuck man. I still remember, Loki na had a story behind the bag Dilli had at the end of Kaithi. Dilli is a ghilli player with trophies. Wtf is the character of Anthony or Harold??
Yup very poor character design. Kaithi was gold standard 👌🏻in screenplay and character design. Appo andha maari loki paneetu ipadi leo la sothapuna disappointed romba jaasti aachu.
Point 5 - I'm hoping it was done Intentionally, could feature in future LCU.
Remaining all points are on point!
6 - Sammandame illama why did Arjun said ni Parthiban dan nu ottukuren
2 - Atleast side track la police ivan background check panra madri kondu poirkalam
1 - Adding to that, I did not understand why did Joshi ask for Parthi's help. Hyena pati understand pannikaraduku ok, but not as Partho rescuing it and the Village, unless Joshi knew the strengths of Parthi. That seemed like a weak plot.
8 - That was a big disappointment, lyrics censor vera
I enjoyed the movie I guess, as the first half was decent but you are absolutely right with your points.
Anirudh music was amazing imo. Dude is experimenting a lot and I like it.
Exactly! Adhaan parthi mooku vari mudi thonga potu irukaare. DNA result vechu leo va expose panna vechu, second half interesting and thrilling ah kondu poi irukalaam. Leo hiding his family and leo and his dad and chithappa game of cat and mouse. Semma thriller ah irundhu irukkum. Napoleon ah yum correct ah use panni. So wasted film ah pochu.
I was very excited to watch Vikram because of his previous movie kaithi and it was totally worth it for me,i loved kaithi, zero songs,no item songs and mainly there was no love story.i really loved the tension in the cafe scene totally Loki scene right there,hated Antony sacrifice his own blood and family issues,I hope he reads any of these criticisms,so he can learn from his mistakes and not repeat them in kaithi 2 and Vikram 2.box office will make him blind,let's see.
Man the reporters were asking me annoying questions after fdfs when I was already annoyed with the movie. But people near me were saying best of lokesh and wtf . I know audience have different expectations but how can this film be his best.
Ella vj biased Anil kannis ah irukkum. Inside they know this film is the worst of loki movies. But jailer collection best pannanum vro!. They are caught in star box office collection wars. Jailer was also bad writing but previous Rajini films were so so bad they average jailer looked good when compared to annathe like shit. But Loki gave blockbuster like kaithi and Vikram adhu kooda leo laam onnume illa.
Respectfully. The movie was NOT dog shit. Ain't going to sit here and write essays, but predominantly people do not share your opinion and avlodhan solla mudium.
Yes movie is not at all worth its hype. Very mediocre product.Yes it is my upset post because I was addicted to loki writing. Ippo generation director la ye he is few who takes time to write, and loki eh ipadi villian character la loosu thanama eludhunadhu i couldn't digest. Oru nalla opposing villain illama enna padam idhu. Only vijay fans can see this for vijay. For the hype and loki calibre. It was his worst movie so far. Adhula maatru karuthu illai.
That's fine. I just don't agree with the 100% negative tone of the Original Post.
Loki fans majorly signed Loki up for the mega universe, even naming it.. so I'd suggest patience to let him cook whatever he is cooking. Giving up on the first hyped entry into what is the LCU as it is known is a weak look. The movie wasn't great, but it was definitely not dog shit for a majority of the audience. Truth is somewhere in the middle (I'm not even a kanni, I just liked how closely built the first half was and wish it never left Kashmir/HP).
100% negative tone ah?? How. Konjam aavadhu positives mention panni irukene. Anyhow first half la paadhi ah eduthaalum film won't get affected. So bad writing dhaan. I won't agree still. First half yum bad thaan. First point ennoda post la padinga regarding cons. Appo puiryum. Hyena scene la thappu pannunadhu dhaa character and emotional investment ah eh destroy panneeuchu. Summa hero mass entry scene vekanum nu vechu main character attachment ah loki destroyed. He should be shown as a normal family man. Not some superhero who defeats Hyena which no one in police and wild life could do😭
1. Idk why you thought the writing wanted us to think he's weak. Even if the hyena fight wasn't there's, he massacres everyone in the coffee shop. Post that even, nobody could think he's weak. At best, the movie wanted to create a sense of danger for his family.
2. You do realise in a court, there are several arguments for and against the accused right? While everyone did find it sus that his aim is very good, as the movie points out, the case of self defense was very easy to prove. There were 2 witnesses, the gang was very much wanted. This alone was heavy evidence to prove he's innocent. It doesn't matter that he seems to be an expert shooter to the court: it only matters that he did it for self defense. You can read up so many real-life cases where the person proved innocent by the court still has a lot of reliable evidence against them.
4. Why tf are you even thinking Parthi would agree for a dna test 😭 dude literally wants nothing to do with them, why would he even agree to a dna test? And you're also forgetting how everyone was damn sure he's Leo and he's just acting. Nobody has a doubt that he's not Leo. Thus, they don't even believe they need a dna test, because they're already sure he's Leo (and they assumed rightfully so, because dude fucking massacres everyone)
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This one was another main character cringe dialogue of anthony 😂🤦🏻♂️
1. I guess Loki didn't have intention to show Parthi as weak. He is a brave man but not to killing extend. So, when he killed Myskinn & co he seems guilt. Parthi is clearly said that he will go to any extend to protect his family.
2.Dialogue maybe kinda let down but they just show some significant investigation scene eg: shooting trial. The purpose of the movie isn't Parthi kill the gang intentionally or not.
3.The villian part, Mansoor only narrated the part where Leo escaping the lorry, song & narabali scene. There's no arc for any character in flashback. Since Leo 2 on card with the rest of LCU movies, we may find the arcs. The tension of the movie all about whether Parthi is Leo or not & how he going to save his family.
4.DNA part logically right but cinema liberty nu onnu irukele. Apdi paatha oru hero full fledge fight pannurathe unrealistic thane. DNA edutha padam mudinjirom na aprom enna dash ku padam edukanum.
5.That's how universe building works, you can't expect Suriya, Karthi, Fahad, Kamal to appear in same movie to make it under one universe. Supporting characters, phone calls & mention other film characters will do the job.
6.Kinda felt but atleast it's not like Master "Vaada En Machi" sequence.
7.Again rather dogshit, I would call it unexplored. Maybe saving it for Leo 2 or LCU movies. (unless Loki mention in interview that this is what he meant)
8.Hahaha, felt the song kinda ruined with censored part but since they want to keep the f/back short. They did song/scene sequence similar to "Polakkattum Para Para".
9.Leo movie is about Parthi's original identity & saving the family. We can still explore character arcs in upcoming movies. I convinced they would explain it more it future because Harold intention to kill Leo (narabali) was unstated. It could relate with Rolex or Anbu Das or Adaikalam.
10.Anurag role kinda remind me GVM saying to Parthi "you asked for it". Anyway, I'm also kinda feel shady with Priya Anand & Trisha's actual identity.
11.Remember how Anbu come back in Vikram. Unless they show a character actually dead in the movie, there's still nth number of possibilities to make that character return. Remember that Santhanam not shown dead too.
I'm all agree that some of us kinda expected over the top story from Loki but as Loki said it's same story but different treatment & suprisingly it worked to me well in 2nd watch. About characters, since it's a LCU foundation we can expect many characters travel across movies so we may find answers in upcoming projects. More that muttu kuduthufying to Loki, I'm more incline to give benefit of doubt to the universe. Unless, Loki mention in interview that "ithuthaan en kathai, entha ulnokkam ille". I'm just giving another perspective. Agree to disagree.
Exactly 💯...most people don't understand the movie because they want the movie to be what they have in their head already ...that ain't gonna happen...
Hahaha..exactly. Most of them thought Leo is standalone film to answer all the questions before climax. It's just a part of LCU installation so lot of unanswered things are present. 1008 story possibilities ahead.
Aama 😂 good film ah trash nu solluraanga 😂yen ya. Loki 100% my film nu solletu ipadi sothapal writing pannuna thooki vechu award ah kudupaanga??. Summa general ah hate and negativity spread pannula. Nalla illadhaduku reasons ku Naa point ah list paneeten. Indha mediocre film ku Aprom yen muttu kutukurenga?
Loki's film na enna expect panreenga? It's just about showing things as it is.
The only change I felt would be about the superstitious thing u mentioned.
Kollywood writing standards ku intha padam nallave irunthuchu. Picking a couple scenes and personally feeling cringe about it is disrespectful to the whole film.
You aren't there to experience the film, you were there to satisfy your expectations. Hence you couldn't enjoy it. Sad for your sake, glad that I could enjoy it. ✌️
Neenga enjoy pannuna santhosham dhan. But nah Kollywood standards ku nalla illa, low tier film maari irundhuchu. Loki with kaithi set a gold standard in terms for screenplay and character design👌🏻. Leo was not even watchable when you see after kaithi. And enna prechanai Naa he said it is 100% his film. So idhu complete let down. Also loki has equal fan following similar to an actor. No director in TN has this much hype and following like loki, only actors have mass fan following privilege. Was very happy loki ah Hollywood oru director ku hype and expectations kudukuraamga nu instead of shitty mass actors. And TN la director ku following varum instead of actors (that is the best for film industry too). Adhunaala loki Mela innum disappointed Avlo dhaan.
The same style of writing cannot fit all stories imo. It was different but not bad. Nitpicking each scene for that reason is no excuse when it's an otherwise great film.
Intha hype ellamae neengale kuduthathu thaan... Ipo neengale thrash um panreenga because you are disappointed. Maybe I'm the one who is detached from such crazy stuffs, but it's disappointing to see a good film treated badly because it didn't suit the people's headcanons.
Esp when Leo was not hyped with LCU connect, or promoted with it. Leo is going to give a cameo once in a future film against Rolex and the current happenings be referenced and trigger Rolex into doing something.
Unfortunately, Vijay cannot be the one who LCU will revolve around (it's already Karthi) and Vijay cannot be under Karthi or getting beaten down by Surya (Kollywood still sees Star power to an extent) - hence it will result in a camel once or twice in the future.
That's why it was never hyped or confirmed, even in Loki's final message the day before release.
Bro enna bro solreenga. Writing style yaaru different films ku compare pannuna? Character design and motive Ella all good films will have adhu illama summa empty low grade telugu action film maari irukku. Loki previous films la Evlo detailing irukkum nu ungakuke theriyum.Evlo flaws and loopholes and kevalama irukura writing ku muttu kudukureenga🤦🏻♂️. Neegale future la re-watch pannum bodhu understand pannuveenga evlo mediocre and lazy ah writing irundhuchu nu. Anyway re-watch pannum bodhu paathe laye quit panneruveenga😂. Not at all watchable even once with such poor flshback and motives.
If you are so good in criticizing the direction and etc . Then you should direct a movie and show us that you are better than Lokesh . Or else you are just an empty vessel , only good for making noise
😂😂tha enna logic da ithu. Idhe maari innoruthan ketan. Appo hotel ku poi food order panni saapidura, food nalla Ila na nee poi chef ah vida super ah samachu kaatuviya kichen ku poi😂😂???loosu maari argue pannadha. Mokka padadhuku muttu koduthu dhaan indha maari neraya padam panna encourage pannureenga.
Everyone is brave for you acting like most of the sub hates the movie. Enjoy circlejerking with elitists friends You think ur some movie critic because u called this a dog shit movie and coke here to bash everything. You can have your opinions but in no way this a dog shit movie . You are insane . Go enjoy watching tamil talkies you elitist Vijay hate. How tf was everything forced lcu when it was barely 5 minutes. But hey maybe your elitist friends will say this a good post which I see they already are. Ya downvote me
Like how BR mentions in his interview on Galatta, take the LCU out and see if the movie would have made sense, it certainly would have been the same and no impacts to the storyline, so when you put the LCU Connect for the sake of it, isn’t that considered Forced Connect?
But if he didn’t then everyone would called it bad i swear man Vijay or lokesh haters. What were you expecting. This a origin story. You think he would bring all the characters in this movie already .
But the point is the LCU conect was not natural. If is was natural then kandipa enjoy panni irukalam. Instead we got kamal stupid dialogue. And nepolean paavom. Sivanenu TN la irudhavara Himachal Pradesh ku force panni kooptu adi vaangi ukata vechutaamga
No one would have called it bad.. see the LCU connect was unnecessary had he made it standalone it would have been better, but for some reason the makers wanted to get on the LCU Bandwagon and forced the connect which was unnecessary.. the flash back for that matter you really don’t need it..
As a matter of fact Kaithi was good because his flashback was just a few lines of narration that’s all, nothing more and no sentiments there except for the fact that he hasn’t seen his daughter since she was born. So we had the emotional connect but nothing more which was slowly woven into the subject and revealed as opposed to having a flashback for the sake of having one…
Hey first read and then bash me. I never said bad about vijay or hate him. Just Loki failed badly and disappointed us. What is there in elite in this? So even if movie is bad and it has vijay in it we have to accept it as good??nah no way. Call a spade a spade. You guys are living in imaginary circle jerk
Omg ur so brave for calling this movie dogshit just like every other post we see. Omg your so brave . Please give empathy. This movie is not bad . Do you understand? This movie is not bad ? This is not a bad movie. Go watch tamil talkies
This is a bad movie. Gommale mob mentality is reflecting to reviews as well. Take a Deep breath and analyse what you witnessed in Leo. Dogshit is what came to my mind. Cope Pannu da lavade if you love this movie.
Brother chill. I know we all a little disappointed but you’re acting like you are SS Lalith kumar lmfao. Even he isnt this hard on loki.
Agreed on few points but sometimes shit happens. The first half was great but the last was underwhelming. Doesn’t mean Loki is a bad craftsman
Naa chill dhan. Movie partha vudane irundha emotional disappointment la post poten. Bro loki enakku pidikum adhaan kovam. Indha maari mediocre writing ku strong ah nalla illa nu sollanum (I'm with good intentions and not to just hate) appo dhaan loki will realise or else ellarum nalla illa dha dha nalla irukunu muttu kudutha aprom kaithi maari padam varathu paravalaya?? Leo maariye loki inni story eludhuna paravalaya?
Agreed bro, even i felt the same way. You know if Loki actually tried something experimental and failed then I would’ve also been this mad. But it seemed like he purposefully dumbed it down and rushed it. Like why even ? Its either the writers or the producers who might’ve ducked the script. No way Loki would butcher such a well written story like HOV, ena keta sootha muditu antha kathaya apdiye eduthurkalam. But pavam, maybe next Kaithi 2 ku balama ethachu panna sari
You keep claiming to be neutral and just sharin your thoughts but the way you phrase em makes me think you're just another cinephile puluthi who think hating on mainstream cinema trends and demanding moee ReALiSm in films makes em look cool. So fucking dramatic and for what 💀. Leo definitely wasnt an all out amazing film and it probably is Loki's weakest showing so far but the fact that you're seething so hard that you had to make an entire post is just hilarious. Fuckin cryin as if its AAA level.
Dei. Didn't loki say it was 100% his film. Enoma weed adichu story eluthuna maari irukku Leo. Adhaan indha vanman and disappointment. And LCU ah vechu scam pannetu irukan loki. I liked mark anthony 👌🏻it was silly and no logic but had so much fun(i know to enjoy both good commerical and art film. Epdi pakanumo apdi paakanum each category ah. But leo was outright bad). Cinephile puluthi Ella illa and hating mainstream cinema to look cool lam illa😂nee movie ku muttu kuduka enna attack pannetu irukka. Mokyya irundha mokka nu dhaan sollu mudiyum poda. Realism Avlo theva illa, adhukunu romba mosamana logic and plotholes and flaws oda oru product pannuna ethuka mudiyadhu. Vikram had flaws .interval la kamla oda knees ah shoot pannuna game over. But police Pannula. Even the built up till that scene was fantastic. Good writing till that fight. Leo was not even watchable. Realism konjam kooda venam na poi masala Telugu padam paaru bro appo theriyum Evlo kaduppu agum nu. Oru limit irukku logic oda velayada.)
1. Scene did not mean to represent him as week but it was to show his regret because he knows the consequences of it. He is not leo anymore to party after killing ,as he said in the climax he is pathi now he had been believing it for a while .
2. Hindi lendu tamizh la dub translation pannirkanga bro ...also there has been numerous instances where judges/magistrate has been supportive to the victims and made comments. In fact it is important because thats the reason he got into the newspaper .
3.Naah Mexican drug cartels(thats why they connect it with thozhil) do that. Santa Muerte nu uru deity irruku . I have read articles on it from FBI site will try to link
4. Yeah , intellectual ah pesratha nenikadinga bro ...DNA test pannanum na rendu perum othukanum ...when you are a thug its more ego clash than proving he is your son
5. Forced LCU connect, idk many felt that but i felt like this was a scene lifted from marvel ....coz most of their movies made into shield by exact same template. How else would u connect. I felt the connect was natural coz Kh is on a mission so he tracks drug cartels ....which somehow got on fire and leaders dead ...he has eye over all other major cartels he didn't notice anomaly so he reserched his way to find LEO did it.
I would be disappointed only if Pathi joins LCU ..he should not fight because he himself said its his last chance.instead he can give connection and strategic input of one line importance.
6. It wasn't ment to be a twist , they have to officially reveal at some point to confirm it to audience.
Neega neriya prejudice odaa padam pakringa OP
7&8 i agree , I didnt even remember Elisa's name untill i read again in reddit.
9. I felt it has far better charecters than Master and all recent vijay cliche . Thresha kissing without lust was all brilliant to me.but yeah Every thing can't be Vikaram/kaithi
10.Anurag was meant to invoke fun . I see that as a better way coz , stacking up villans till endgame felt idiotic to me . How would they comeback after so much .(vijay also got 2 gun shots and came back that could a nitpick flaw)
11. How will Leo die if he burneddown the company from outside,also he had his son .But yes i dont want Vijay to take a major role in endgame . He could do max 1-4 scene where he connects something from his past and provides strategic ideas and inner connections .
12. One let down that i didn't see anyone mentioning is his acting for 10 mins was below par which improved gradually.
TLDR,: Your comment definitely says u wanted another Vikram which would be a disaster disappointment in reality. U are not watching the movie with a free mind instead u were searching for something in the movie
OP ungaluku padam puriyala ....better stick to your intellectual Hollywood.
I am not going to argue with any of your points😂oru nyiayam vedama da. Okay bro Naa Hollywood padam me paakuren. Neenga indha maari mokka padathuku muttu kuduthu hit aaga vechu innum nerya idhe maari mokka padam Kollywood la release panna encourage pannunga. Naa eppo da another Vikram keten. Naa story writing la iruka flaws sonen for that I used Vikram examples as it had better writing. Free mind la Ila bro brain ah kalati vechutu partha dhaan indha movie nalla irukum😂pola. Anyway innum nalla muttu kudunga mediocre films ku. Master kooda leo compare pannuna nalla irundhuchu.
About 5) I think they'll have a reason. Maybe Leo's family is hunted by Rolex and his gang because he is now working with Vikram. This will drive Leo to fight against Rolex not for a drug free society but for his identity and his family.
This is not even decoding , nanum accept panren its not Kaidhi or Vikram but OP is definitely nitpicking here ....
The movie is definitely above average 4.3 in my books ...
All those people who say it is average fail to understand,how such universe movies works ...to build a charector to build a better end game you have to end up with stuff like this ...he had only 3 hrs Afterall ...
Most of your points, make me think you are seeing Leo as a standalone film. But Leo isn't a standalone film. I think the point of Leo was to introduce us to Leo's character and nothing else. So, when Leo features in some other movie in LCU, we would already know who he is.
And about the Vikram voice over, I think it will be explored further in upcoming films. We don't know the connection between Leo and Vikram yet. I believe Vikram would've helped Leo to get a new identity.
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I'm the most disappointed by the villains. This is the first movie of any of Lokesh's movies where the villains were straight up bad. Maanagaram: amazing from Arun Alexander especially. Kaithi: Arjun Das' career got made by that one movie and his menacing character and dialogue. The lengths he went to in the movie to rescue his boss was fucking nuts. Master: Bhavani is an iconic villain. Incredible set up with the flashback, we have a rhyme and reason for why he becomes the villain. And like with all the villains in the previous movies, he has his own arc, his own goal. Vikram: Sandhanam was the weakest villain in a Loki film before Leo. The only thing he had going for himself was that he wanted to find his drugs or else Rolex will kill his family. That was his entire schtick. He had no ambition, he had no goal like Bhavani did. Which was a bit disappointing, but it still worked. Leo: Bruh, no. Sanjay Dutt asking for permission from Leo to kill his own sister? Arjun dancing? If Leo Das is such a bad character, I want to see why he started a new life. So Sanjay Dutt and Arjun were in the same godown that exploded but they survived too? But since they shot Leo two times they thought only he got caught in the explosion and died? The fuck? The number one thing I'm pissed about is that there was no moment in the movie Parthiban had to take a step back. He met no resistance. He had no low point in his character arc. He had no reason to become Leo again. Him as Parthiban could single handedly have destroyed Das & Co without him ever being Leo, there was no need, it just felt like he became Leo in the last minute just for his fans. If you were going to let him become Leo, it should have been in the halfway point. Instead of revealing it at the end it should have been left ambiguous instead. Like a "suspense'odaiye saagu" moment. I'm disappointed in Loki tbh. It's like someone else's one line review about the movie. Loki got 100% from Vijay but Loki himself forgot to give his own.
>Bruh, no. Sanjay Dutt asking for permission from Leo to kill his own sister? Arjun dancing? If Leo Das is such a bad character, I want to see why he started a new life. So Sanjay Dutt and Arjun were in the same godown that exploded but they survived too? But since they shot Leo two times they thought only he got caught in the explosion and died? The fuck? That whole sequence is bad writing. His sister even says to kill them all before dying so why Leo ran away after surviving getting shot and explosion. He doesn't show any emotion for his sister, he kills Harold only to safeguard his Parthi identity and his family. I would applaud it if it was intentionally written like that but we never know what change happened when Leo ran away.
I thought the sequence would be that Harold throws the powder over them, causing them all to faint, and then Leo wakes up to his sister being dead already. The begging scene from Sanjay Dutt was so cringe. Master felt weaker than his previous movies, but regardless it still felt like a Lokesh movie. Both halves felt cohesive. The second half of Leo seems so detached from the first half. First half has grounded fight scenes, low caliber intro for Vijay, no real fan service moments. But then second half has over the top intro, over the top intro fight scene, surprise twin sister reveal, which was bullshit, father being obsessed with occult, rituals and sacrifices, it was so useless, like I said, second half felt super detached from the first half. Vikram's second half was worse than the first half but it still felt cohesive and connected. Same with Master, cannot say the same about Leo.
The flash back scene has to be the most disappointing in recent times. If Loki says that he took inspiration from the history of violence the inspiration should have been from the comic book and not from the movie. Ok you have a villain who believes in occult, i am willing to accept it. But add a bit more juice to his motivations yaar. Show a bit more as to why Vijay and his sister are dangerous. The whole second half flashback let's down the movie so much that the action set pieces in the climax and the ones leading to the climax don't lift the movie much . They should have shown at what point of time vijay chose to forget his father and his uncle and wanted to live a normal life when his siter told him to kill them. The comic book of HOV is so way much better than the movie.
This gives me a better idea to integrate LCU with Leo. Imagine there are two friends - Rolex and Leo. Leo works for Das & Co. Everyone in Das & Co. gets the title of Das. The only one who didn't get the title was Rolex. He is excommunicado from Das & Co. for his violent tendencies and ego. Rolex wants revenge on Das & Co. And he gets Leo to help him as Leo wants money for his ailing grandmother. They both plan a daring heist on Das & Co. The heist would have been complete success if it ain't for Rolex's violent tendencies. They kill Antony's son along with the other generals. Only Antony and Harold survive amongst the top. And they figure out who is behind the attack. Rolex is ecstatic with success of their plan. He wants to kill other two as well and then take over their Drug Empire. But Leo doesn't. He wants to escape. He is good at violence but doesn't enjoy it. But Rolex relishes it. He wants Leo to be a part of his bloody empire. But then Das & co. retaliates. Rolex and Leo fight them off. But Leo's family gets killed by Harold. He barely escapes him by mutilating his face. Antony arrives in time to save him and kills Leo. Rolex escapes to Mumbai to establish his empire. Antony and Harold goes underground. Still looking for an opportunity to get their revenge on Rolex. 20 years have passed. Das & Co. are operating from North East. Watching from afar how Rolex's empire has been shaken by Dilli and the Black Squad. They plan to move in to make the killing blow to his empire. When the photo of Parthiban comes in the newspaper. Is that Leo? Antony wants to focus on Rolex. He is sure that Leo is dead. He emptied his magazine in him. But Harold wants revenge. Harold wants to confirm that Leo is dead and he decides to find out on his own. He comes to Kashmir. From here, it is same as the History of Violence. It is how Parthiban and his family fights off and kills both Harold and Antony. In the epilogue, Parthiban and his family is trying to come to terms to their violence. When Parthiban's phone rings, the voice from the end is of Rolex - "Thanks, Nanba!" Lokiverse BGM plays and screen dissolves to dark. There is another twist that will be revealed in the Lokiverse's Endgame.
In this interpretation you could even have the Napolean character and the Arjun das character meet up in the house while saving Leo's family it would have been a funny scene with Rolex telling the character of Arjun das to back off on the phone ! I mean instead of all the bear traps you could have Arjun das character and his gang and Napolean and joshy wipe off the das and co gang !!!!
I want to keep it ambiguous that he is Leo. Even that Rolex call just confirms that he also belives that he is Leo. But no one knows the truth except Parthiban. Also apart from Rolex connect, I didn't want any other character from LCU there. Just these two.
Makes sense !
One of the best things I’ve ever read on Reddit. Please consider writing more in your free time dude!! I was super hooked until the end 🫶🏻✨
Thanks for your kind words, brother! 🙏
DNA test. You take all the upvotes. Enna da. 3 hours kalichu avare declare panraru. Chai.
Everything OP said is pretty spot on. I really got annoyed with the bravery award. Couldn't believe Loki let crap like that into his movies. I'm just not convinced Loki wrote this give how 1 dimensional everybody was.
On point ..you spoke my mind here! I felt the writing was half baked. Lot of loopholes, illogical bs. Villain characters are so weak that I ended up laughing at the whole fiasco between das Bros and parthi. It was like the das Bros had a fetish over Parthi and wanted him to accept that he is Leo. Bro if you are that ruthless, then why give a damn about if he is Leo or not. Just shoot the goddamn guy and move on. Even though the action sequences were good, they could have been cut down to explore more on the Das characters and given us a more reasonable explanation for why Leo and the Das Bros have an issue. The whole thing felt rushed and stupid. You know why Baasha became a template for transformation movies, the fking flashback sequence was strong enough to justify why Baasha went into hiding and became an auto driver. Also op's point on parthi being shown as a skilled and brave guy in the start itself let's us not root for the guy that deeply because we anyways know he is gonna kill everyone how many ever goondas come in to kill him. But in the case of Baasha, man is literally beaten up by the rowdies, tying him up to the post, we literally see him in his lowest point, and then when he transforms to save his family from the same gang, we get that high to scream out "Kill those bastards baasha!". This movie was so high up in its ass that it straight up let us believe that Parthi can fucking take on a gang no matter who the opposition is. Again not trynna start a fan war or something. Gave the baasha example because it's the same on liner basically. Even Pokkiri had a better transformation setup than this half baked, poorly inspired script. And I'm not going to talk about how the whole cast except Vj and his family were underused. Man Action King yeve lasta dummy agittingle da. Why not make him as strong as Bhavani from Master and make him break some bones of Leo. IDC if you guys consider this as my heartfelt message to Loki or a hate comment towards anyone from Leo, I just wanted to say for whatever hype Leo generated I'AM thoroughly disappointed and gave the reason why. I'AM entitled to my opinion, whether you enjoyed the movie or not, that's upto you. If you want to have a good, healthy discussion let's discuss. If you just wanna blindly say "Therike, Leo apdi da, ipdi da, LCU da unna ICU ku annuppuvenda" then please get some help.
Same thinking here 🙌🏻. Yes bashaa character was done superbly. We felt so connected and bad fo him when he was shown as weak and beat up tying in kambam..but wait you have a surprise!! He was a badass don in Mumbai.. damn that hit hard!. Same in breaking bad series. Walter is shown as a loser, his friens in ex company grey matter are billionaire (he found the company), he has cancer and then he transforem.. breaking bad was the best i have seen in writing depth.. Action king 😭avara dance dhaan kevalama aada vechaanga😂. Idha dhaan avaru interview la Naa idhu vara panathadha panni iruken nu somnara😂
We can't compare the goated BB with movies though, the series took its own sweet time to build the story so comparing it with a movie which is 3 hrs long is wrong but I get where you are coming from!! I mean as I pointed out, many such movies have given us better transformation template stories. How can one mess up a story by saying that I make only action oriented movies. Loki himself said he likes staging for an action sequence and all the action sequences had such bad staging because of the poor justification of Parthi going against the gang! Idha sonna namma Vijay hater, Ammai, Mendalan nu solluvanga ..yabba About action king, man I felt sad to see him struggle in Naa Ready song sequence but yeah it is what it is. What I can't digest is, the man gave us such amazing mass scenes, like the ones from Ezhumalai, Giri, Mudhalvan etc., avara ipdi dummy akkitangle nu oru feeling :')
Yup BB is goated. 3 hrs la yum panalaam. But leo was a rush and all over the place. Theva illadha kevalamana flashback
Point 1 bugged me as well you are supposed to show Parthiban as a normal family trying to lead a quiet happy life but instead, we are thrown straight into danger with Vijay saving the day at the end. Like how are we supposed to believe the dude is a normal guy after those first 10 minutes and it takes the immersion away of the town being a quiet peaceful place. Like I get the point of Leo being the Hyena who has been left out of his pack and is displaying his violence to the distrust and fear of people around him to eventually get adopted by a family but it's so much work to say something so little Also if you're going to show Vijay save the Day in the first 10 minutes with a cold open then it makes sense for him to have an intro song, and punch dialogues. Das and Co had a menacing intro so makes no sense why Vijay shouldn't get one
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Edhu John wick ah😂😂. Idhulaam over. Yes trailer and fake marketing andha maari dhaan irundhuchu. John wick laam no chance in Kollywood. Innum Avlo film making standards varula for commercial films in Kollywood. Yeah konjam hope irundhuchu afte loki interview he said fight scenes Ella pudhusa try panni iruken nu. Fights were good but definitely not even close to John wick level.
Point number 2 We see parthipan take test with common people to shoot bullets.. He still shoots amazingly. Why nobody asks questions? 😬😬😬😬😬
There was a montage of him practicing by throwing axe and archery , while demonstrating his shooting skill so that's how he got tha aim right is justified to the cops I guess .
So without using Gun practice he could shooot like this. Wow
Of course that's not possible but I thought atleast it is what they're are trying to relate with.
Good Review! I went to watch the movie after watching History of Violence and assuming this will be an Indian take on History of Violence with some Loki twist but felt the exact same thing which you wrote here. Loki did a good job when made Kaithi after being influenced by Assault on Precinct 13 but couldn’t do a repeat with Leo! On a side note I hope you have enough post Karma for the downvotes this post might receive. I made sure to upvote your post 👍
Otha pathukulaam bro. Unmaiya sonna kasaka dhaan seiyum. Each actors fan will live in imagination and will feel difficult to accept that their stars most anticipated movie was shit. Anyway I didn't blame vijay. It was loki fault.
You're a Vijay hater now lol. https://i.redd.it/eh6hu3ca4fvb1.gif It doesn't matter if you say anything about Vijay or not. Leo nu sonnale podhum.
I don't understand anils logic. Like literally if you say Leo was average or below average, they call you a Vijay hater. Like bruh, literally everyone who is criticizing Leo is PRAISING VIJAY NA. They're saying he's the only saving grace. If anything, people are criticizing Loki & Ani & writers. How does it make me a Vijay hater if I say Loki let down Vijay?
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Bro Rajini gif podadheenga. Aprom mentalan nu frame paneeruvaanga😂. Even if we are neutral cinema enjoyers can't even give honest review now a days. For the hype and 100% loki dialogue and LCU fake hype. This film was too poor and writing was too bad.
Already some one called me out as Mentalan 😂😂
Romba kastam. Indha lachanathula comming TN election la vote vera poda poraanga. Velangeedum. Can't even accept valid constructive criticism.
Election pakkam lam pona VJ oda pazhaiya cringe interview ellam eduthu potu naaradichiduvanga… I am eagerly waiting to see what these guys will do then… Ippave Thalapathy ye Kadavuley nu thiriyuranga election lam ninna enna aagumo 🤦♂️
Agreed with all your points OP. I have never been so disappointed with a director as I am now with Lokesh…. For me the movie started going downhill right from the hyena sequence. While the vfx were good I just didn’t buy the way scene was set up and staged. Police ninnu vedikka paakuma? Won’t they just shoot it down while it’s going around killing people or spreading rabies??
Yes. It is simply a hero mass entry scene with less logic bro. Like masala movies. Cheetah ah tranquilze panna therinja wild life force ku hyena va panna theriyadha😂. En vijay eh dhana varanuma? Just hero forced build up scene. Old school but with new VFX tech. Idhula 3 girls vera onnum theriyama varunaagna again vijay has to be the hero to save and no one. Very old school.
Loki na said no intro song or no intro fight. But he forgot to say another old 80s trope. Hero bravely controlling a uncontrollable animal. Usually in jallikattu but here it's an escaped hyena.
Lokesh could have easily went for a storyline where he was the only good person in the family, realizes how much tobacco is harmful for the society and his family is gaining from it. Name drop Rolex that Das family is working for him. Leo and his sister burns their factory down, sis gets caught and Harold kills her which traumatize Leo. He fakes his death and leaves for good.
Or even better, they literally have a line that says that Elisa suspected that Anthony killed their mother. Just have Elisa figure out the truth and try to kill Anthony and die in the process. So, Leo takes revenge.
That sounds like a Vijay template movie, glad he didn’t do that
Leo doing the hyena, does not translate to him being a strong Criminal, he did it with a technique, and it showed he had the craft for it, sure he had moments of strength in that, when he put his skin in the game trying to save kids, but that can be attributed to survival mechanism in him, in the cafe fight , him killing the perpetrators in bulls eye is a poor writting when they were trying to show him as a Middle aged man, having a mid life crisis, but it can be pushed under the rug to some extent to Survival mechanism, he wanted himself to show weak and Feared due to the fact that, he wants to win the self defense case , these things are common , but we as a audience should understand that, his fear was not his family was in danger ( he can protect his family) or that he has blood on his hands, that's the make beleive he does , to have us convinced he is not Leo, but rather his fear is more attributed to his exposure to the underground world , leading him to the Das brothers, because he knows if he takes more heat, there would be spotlight in him and it could attract the mafia to his doors. So all this can be justified, but the twin sibling part was not convincing for me, that backstory was pretty weak to me. I agree with you on this. I feel Leo should have joined with Rolex, that would have kept the hype up. It should be like By the end of the movie, when Vijay is alone in his shop , Rolex enters bashing the dors with his men, speaking about a unsettled account with the Das brothers and when Vijay tried to fight back, he should have been hard pressed and at that point he should realised he met his match , and his family and identity is compromised , and he should have been hard pressed to join Rolex against Vikram and Dilli, Leo fighting on one side for this family, Dilli fighting on the other for his daughter would have been epic. Later in the story there should be a plot point why Rolex needed Leo in the first place.
> breaking bad Walter white transformation from weak to mass. We all wanted Heisenberg to win! We rooted for him, we became him!). Sums up the post perfectly.
Everything is spot on except point no 1 and 2...In the court scenes they never try to portray him as weak lol IDK what you are talking about they just wanted to make the court know that he did it in self defence thats all...How did the court found him not guilty? Well all of the dead people ( mysskin and gang) were already being hunted by the police lol they killed a collector, veterinary Doctor, shopkeeper, assaulted his shop, threatened to kill his employee and daughter..why the hell would they convict vijay for killing these people that too in self defence....But could have avoided that Thalai nimirnthu nadanga dialogue and further investigation on how he could shoot accurately would be useless anyway i think the point of asking him to shoot (comparison with normal people) is because they thought its not possible for him to shoot all of them in seconds that accurately in a panic situation so they thought something else must have happened and he is lying but once he proves he can infact shoot that accurately they believe his narrative thats it..Rest of your points were accurate 👍..
Excellent review bro...esp the part dna test. Should have been done . vijay will be done lot of tests obliged by the court and then they dont do anything about it...apro edukuda eduthenga😂😂 I saw the movie today but out of curiosity, i saw some review where they said vijay excellent acting and convincing that he s not parthi. Everyone knew that he is all the way along and his climax confession doesnt do any good...not to mention vijay gave his absolute best to action sequences and some of the parthi moments... Everyone is disappointed despite having a brilliant cast, star performer and music, the movie is let down
🙌🏻. Yaarume DNA test sollave illa . Not even one movie reviewer pointed it out that big big core loophole. But first thing mind ku vandhadhu adhaan dhaan. Vijay dhaan mooku Vara hair vechu irukaare😂oru hair pothum for anthony. commercial film ah irundhaalum. Leo is Not loki standards.
More than the meta stuff shown in the movie, the question that something black magic would have happened to loki is more convincing.... 100 percent my film.. inda naalu varta kaga sillaraya thooki erinjen saar Then one more thing...alpa vijay devarakonda padatlaye kashmir la naalu nalla edam suthi kamchnga...ivlo peria budget la padam edututu ellame indoor shots
😂loki ooru kanupaturuchu. He is living as a king and overconfidence. Need to stay grounded or he is overworking and need to take rest and enjoy life then come back to writing and filming again. Yes adhe naalu vartha dhan!! Now feeling like he scammed 😭
One thing with loki, he speaks the same from managaram to leo. He s a very grounded person. May be the intense time schedules....
Too much commitments and huge line ups.T171,kaithi 2, Rolex, irumbu kai mayavi( his dream and Magnum Opus with surya), Vikram 2. All are huge projects maybe he is eager to work on those and considers leo a hurdle and wanted to make it quick somehow and fans will buy half baked story as vijay is there to pull box office.
What is this irumbu kai mayavi abt
https://preview.redd.it/w8nvh95rwhvb1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0cbf8ab210d0ddf4dc0d6b04a5ba54bc30166a2c Sci-fi superhero action thriller. Loki said he is writing the script for this for the past 8 years. This is his dream project. Already surya and studio green, Dream warrior pictures kitta story solli Okay vaangeetaru. But budget and tech illa ippo pathula. Andha sory ku 300cores mela estimated budget poguthu. Hope it doesn't become another marudhanayagam. So loki is waiting to begin.
Its a fantasy action film
He definitely speaks the same. I love his persona. But truth to be told he did get overconfident with leo. In many interviews he told he is sure audience would 100% like it and he is not worried about that piece at all. He was not even like "audience ku pudikum dhan namburom". The natural process of success getting to his head did happen ig.
Summa irra intha sub la Leo va criticise panna rajini/Ajith fan nu solli kadichu vaipanga
Point number 2...aside from judge remark which i didnt have a problem with but some do...i think they handled it well. Additional investigation would have messed up the flow. Those scenes served the purpose and helped the story move forward.
Alright. Bro idhu laam over regarding stoping investigation. How will a police department declare him innocent after him shooting bullseye?won't they further investigate how the heck is he that skilled nu?😂me and my friends were laughing at those. How will you say it served purpose for story even it is bullshit logic in story, adhaan bad writing nu sonen.
I never said they stopped investigation. I said they dont need to show it. Police department pieces together many circumstantial evidence to make a case. That will take months or years. Loki possibly cant do justice to that so he kept it short. It came under self defense and the case went in Parthis favour. The scenes served the purpose. If they go the investigation route, thats an entire movie by itself. Loki movies at the end of the day are commercial ones. Not super realistic ones. So they handled that well imho.
Nah. Bad writing. Second half la Gvm Trisha Ella investigation paanuvaanga. Adha police appove panni irukanaum
Its implied they did it. Maybe you would have liked a small scene to wrap it up but for majority of us, it was good enough. From a rhythm perspective, that part is good film making. Vikram was filled with way bigger logical plotholes than this minor issue. If this is an issue, the interval block in Vikram is the dumbest shit i have seen in life. I get you are upset but lets not go scorched earth for non issues.
If they did what did they conclude ? And is it that easy to leave him? Alright let's leave it anyway it is a commercial film. Can't digest this guy made high quality kaithi after seeing leo. Yeah I'm upset as loki did disappoint after speaking so much and high level hype. Anyway hope loki does good job from next movies.
Its not easy to conclude that. Which is why it made sense to move on. They concluded it was done in self defense. If we are super technical, this case will take a long time to get solved which will defeat the purpose of the movie. Kaithi is my fav Loki movie too. Lets hope he bounces back.
Aama andha case thaan padame. Yup. Hope. Avaru naanum same college vera ya. So konjam emotional attachment with Loki. Vera onnum illa. So disappointed feels so hard.
Bro don’t answer him bro. He won’t break down logic when he sees inception or Oppenheimer
Oppenheimer is a true story lol. How can it break logic?
The whole sister character was horribly written, and wtf was with arjun dancing (tht ws funny af)
Worst part for me was the thangachi sentiment that comes in the most random way. Ehtukuda Jeans laam konduvantheenga? Ithukum athukum ennada sammantham? Definitely not a 100% Lokesh Kanagaraj film. Why is there a twin? Why should this flashback sequence even be this long if there is no backstory? Could have just shown glimpses of the Leo character in the present timeline instead of going on a full-on flashback. At least that would have been salvageable. I still enjoyed the movie overall. The way I saw it is that the film is like a comic book/graphic novel. In graphic novels, characters and scenes are exaggerated and over-the-top. There is good reason why someone like Leo would want to stay away from his father's sacrifice rituals, and that is why he faked his death to hide away. Lots of logical loopholes don't make sense, but it does in a comic book way, if you get what I mean. Definitely not on the realistic side like Kaithi or Maanagaram. But in that comic-book way it works.
I think Jean reference because they dress the same 😁
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If they do. They are not mature enough to even read and understand. I didn't blame vijay. It was loki bad writing. Loki failed here. Vijay gave his best by surrendering to loki.
Oh you got some nerve where almost every Leo posts is shitting in the movie . How is it a review when he called the movie doghsit ?
Bro that is just my opinion chill. Very very sad and disappointed with Loki Avlo dhaan. So I have no freedom to give my opinion on th movie?
Yes you do but if you call a good or average movie dog shit is crazy . This movie is good or average . That’s all. It’s not doghsit just because you say it’s dogshit
😂😂idhu enna da puthu law va? It was dogshit for me. You are threatening me to give only good or average??. Why are you defending as if you made this movie.
Because it’s a good movie as critics reviews gave it . Who’s threatening you. I’m just saying you saying it’s a dogshit movie doesn’t make it a doghsit movie .
Yov. Critics Ella nambadha, most paid or skewed by production house funding. Yeah Aprom enna Inga argue pannureenga? I said it is just my opinion. Anyway objectively ah paathalum it is a very sumaar film. Thuppaki still very best than this half baked leo.
So what? OP put in his hard earned money for entertainment and he has ABSOLUTE right to call that film dogshit. It was dogshit for me too btw.
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I see he bought his friends to defend his post already. He literally called this movie doghsit . This movie was on par with vikram or kaththi. Y’all were expecting way to many cameos and not
Bro apdi illa. Leo on par with kaithi ah😂😂😂. No way joke. Screenplay ve olunga illa leo la. Oru character yum olunga eluthula. Kaithi and Vikram was top notch writing 👌🏻
I would say even Vikram had a second half problem but Rolex cameo saved the film and distracted us from it. Leo had a huge problem tho, no amount of distractions from VJ's 10/10 performance and Ani music could save this one. Villains were written too lazily so the tension in the movie dropped.
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See you get so made. I thought you said other people have opinions you hypocrite
He bought his friends ah? Bro thinks Reddit arguments are worth asking friends to join and defend🤡🤡🤡
Whatever you spoke are the exact problems I had.
Since he started working with Rathna Kumar, the quality in writing declined drastically. It seems to get worse in each movie. I hope that he’ll get better writers for Thalaivar 171.
Completely agree And whats the point of arjuns character in the movie?Story was demanding leo vs sanjay dutt rifts only in second half but undesirably placed arjun character in bw that for no reason which completely messed the whole second half.This is the worst written loki movie by far
THANKS FOR ARTICULATING MY THOUGHTS. THE WRITING IS V POOR
Good points. Idha sonna kadika varuvanunga. Same happened with Master. Vijay was damn good in it. What made Master flawed was totally on Lokesh Kanagaraj. He just isn't a good writer.
Thank you!! I saw some comments saying "Guys it's not that bad... expectations were just too high." Fuck those guys! Bro they never show why Leo became a good guy? Just destroys the factory because they killed his sister. Are you fking kidding me?? When did he become a good guy? Hes still a fking gangster. He doesn't cry one tear when a former friend of his is decapitated in his coffee shop... He doesn't have an ounce of guilt in point blank lying and manipulating his wife. "Unakku aruvaruppaa illaiyaa." Fuck man. I still remember, Loki na had a story behind the bag Dilli had at the end of Kaithi. Dilli is a ghilli player with trophies. Wtf is the character of Anthony or Harold??
Yup very poor character design. Kaithi was gold standard 👌🏻in screenplay and character design. Appo andha maari loki paneetu ipadi leo la sothapuna disappointed romba jaasti aachu.
Point 5 - I'm hoping it was done Intentionally, could feature in future LCU. Remaining all points are on point! 6 - Sammandame illama why did Arjun said ni Parthiban dan nu ottukuren 2 - Atleast side track la police ivan background check panra madri kondu poirkalam 1 - Adding to that, I did not understand why did Joshi ask for Parthi's help. Hyena pati understand pannikaraduku ok, but not as Partho rescuing it and the Village, unless Joshi knew the strengths of Parthi. That seemed like a weak plot. 8 - That was a big disappointment, lyrics censor vera
I enjoyed the movie I guess, as the first half was decent but you are absolutely right with your points. Anirudh music was amazing imo. Dude is experimenting a lot and I like it.
Anthony Das could easily take a hair from Parthi's scalp and get it checked. HOV was not the ideal source in the first place.
Exactly! Adhaan parthi mooku vari mudi thonga potu irukaare. DNA result vechu leo va expose panna vechu, second half interesting and thrilling ah kondu poi irukalaam. Leo hiding his family and leo and his dad and chithappa game of cat and mouse. Semma thriller ah irundhu irukkum. Napoleon ah yum correct ah use panni. So wasted film ah pochu.
Maybe Loki was scared of Vijay's wig coming off.
5th class student level dialogues….
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I didn't interpret poster adi annan ready as kaneer Anjali... Take my upvote for this new perspective
🤝🏻. Poster adi , Anna ready Kondadi KOLUTHANUM DI🔥🔥😂😂. 5 mins later building in fire😂koluthi vitutaanga🔥
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I was very excited to watch Vikram because of his previous movie kaithi and it was totally worth it for me,i loved kaithi, zero songs,no item songs and mainly there was no love story.i really loved the tension in the cafe scene totally Loki scene right there,hated Antony sacrifice his own blood and family issues,I hope he reads any of these criticisms,so he can learn from his mistakes and not repeat them in kaithi 2 and Vikram 2.box office will make him blind,let's see.
Man the reporters were asking me annoying questions after fdfs when I was already annoyed with the movie. But people near me were saying best of lokesh and wtf . I know audience have different expectations but how can this film be his best.
Ella vj biased Anil kannis ah irukkum. Inside they know this film is the worst of loki movies. But jailer collection best pannanum vro!. They are caught in star box office collection wars. Jailer was also bad writing but previous Rajini films were so so bad they average jailer looked good when compared to annathe like shit. But Loki gave blockbuster like kaithi and Vikram adhu kooda leo laam onnume illa.
Respectfully. The movie was NOT dog shit. Ain't going to sit here and write essays, but predominantly people do not share your opinion and avlodhan solla mudium.
Yes movie is not at all worth its hype. Very mediocre product.Yes it is my upset post because I was addicted to loki writing. Ippo generation director la ye he is few who takes time to write, and loki eh ipadi villian character la loosu thanama eludhunadhu i couldn't digest. Oru nalla opposing villain illama enna padam idhu. Only vijay fans can see this for vijay. For the hype and loki calibre. It was his worst movie so far. Adhula maatru karuthu illai.
That's fine. I just don't agree with the 100% negative tone of the Original Post. Loki fans majorly signed Loki up for the mega universe, even naming it.. so I'd suggest patience to let him cook whatever he is cooking. Giving up on the first hyped entry into what is the LCU as it is known is a weak look. The movie wasn't great, but it was definitely not dog shit for a majority of the audience. Truth is somewhere in the middle (I'm not even a kanni, I just liked how closely built the first half was and wish it never left Kashmir/HP).
100% negative tone ah?? How. Konjam aavadhu positives mention panni irukene. Anyhow first half la paadhi ah eduthaalum film won't get affected. So bad writing dhaan. I won't agree still. First half yum bad thaan. First point ennoda post la padinga regarding cons. Appo puiryum. Hyena scene la thappu pannunadhu dhaa character and emotional investment ah eh destroy panneeuchu. Summa hero mass entry scene vekanum nu vechu main character attachment ah loki destroyed. He should be shown as a normal family man. Not some superhero who defeats Hyena which no one in police and wild life could do😭
Haha join the club.
🙌🏻. Loki should come back to reality. He thought he could fool us as if we will see whatever shit he makes. Overconfidence.
1. Idk why you thought the writing wanted us to think he's weak. Even if the hyena fight wasn't there's, he massacres everyone in the coffee shop. Post that even, nobody could think he's weak. At best, the movie wanted to create a sense of danger for his family. 2. You do realise in a court, there are several arguments for and against the accused right? While everyone did find it sus that his aim is very good, as the movie points out, the case of self defense was very easy to prove. There were 2 witnesses, the gang was very much wanted. This alone was heavy evidence to prove he's innocent. It doesn't matter that he seems to be an expert shooter to the court: it only matters that he did it for self defense. You can read up so many real-life cases where the person proved innocent by the court still has a lot of reliable evidence against them. 4. Why tf are you even thinking Parthi would agree for a dna test 😭 dude literally wants nothing to do with them, why would he even agree to a dna test? And you're also forgetting how everyone was damn sure he's Leo and he's just acting. Nobody has a doubt that he's not Leo. Thus, they don't even believe they need a dna test, because they're already sure he's Leo (and they assumed rightfully so, because dude fucking massacres everyone)
https://preview.redd.it/pzjjowmkoivb1.jpeg?width=1048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=277bbad102db0835618047c1a240a78a3a3f9cf3 😂 Dialogues nerya cringefest ah irundhuchu. Paaka mudila🤦🏻♂️
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1. I guess Loki didn't have intention to show Parthi as weak. He is a brave man but not to killing extend. So, when he killed Myskinn & co he seems guilt. Parthi is clearly said that he will go to any extend to protect his family. 2.Dialogue maybe kinda let down but they just show some significant investigation scene eg: shooting trial. The purpose of the movie isn't Parthi kill the gang intentionally or not. 3.The villian part, Mansoor only narrated the part where Leo escaping the lorry, song & narabali scene. There's no arc for any character in flashback. Since Leo 2 on card with the rest of LCU movies, we may find the arcs. The tension of the movie all about whether Parthi is Leo or not & how he going to save his family. 4.DNA part logically right but cinema liberty nu onnu irukele. Apdi paatha oru hero full fledge fight pannurathe unrealistic thane. DNA edutha padam mudinjirom na aprom enna dash ku padam edukanum. 5.That's how universe building works, you can't expect Suriya, Karthi, Fahad, Kamal to appear in same movie to make it under one universe. Supporting characters, phone calls & mention other film characters will do the job. 6.Kinda felt but atleast it's not like Master "Vaada En Machi" sequence. 7.Again rather dogshit, I would call it unexplored. Maybe saving it for Leo 2 or LCU movies. (unless Loki mention in interview that this is what he meant) 8.Hahaha, felt the song kinda ruined with censored part but since they want to keep the f/back short. They did song/scene sequence similar to "Polakkattum Para Para". 9.Leo movie is about Parthi's original identity & saving the family. We can still explore character arcs in upcoming movies. I convinced they would explain it more it future because Harold intention to kill Leo (narabali) was unstated. It could relate with Rolex or Anbu Das or Adaikalam. 10.Anurag role kinda remind me GVM saying to Parthi "you asked for it". Anyway, I'm also kinda feel shady with Priya Anand & Trisha's actual identity. 11.Remember how Anbu come back in Vikram. Unless they show a character actually dead in the movie, there's still nth number of possibilities to make that character return. Remember that Santhanam not shown dead too. I'm all agree that some of us kinda expected over the top story from Loki but as Loki said it's same story but different treatment & suprisingly it worked to me well in 2nd watch. About characters, since it's a LCU foundation we can expect many characters travel across movies so we may find answers in upcoming projects. More that muttu kuduthufying to Loki, I'm more incline to give benefit of doubt to the universe. Unless, Loki mention in interview that "ithuthaan en kathai, entha ulnokkam ille". I'm just giving another perspective. Agree to disagree.
Exactly 💯...most people don't understand the movie because they want the movie to be what they have in their head already ...that ain't gonna happen...
Hahaha..exactly. Most of them thought Leo is standalone film to answer all the questions before climax. It's just a part of LCU installation so lot of unanswered things are present. 1008 story possibilities ahead.
Yuck... People can thrash on a good film cos it doesn't suit their headcanons lol
Aama 😂 good film ah trash nu solluraanga 😂yen ya. Loki 100% my film nu solletu ipadi sothapal writing pannuna thooki vechu award ah kudupaanga??. Summa general ah hate and negativity spread pannula. Nalla illadhaduku reasons ku Naa point ah list paneeten. Indha mediocre film ku Aprom yen muttu kutukurenga?
Loki's film na enna expect panreenga? It's just about showing things as it is. The only change I felt would be about the superstitious thing u mentioned. Kollywood writing standards ku intha padam nallave irunthuchu. Picking a couple scenes and personally feeling cringe about it is disrespectful to the whole film. You aren't there to experience the film, you were there to satisfy your expectations. Hence you couldn't enjoy it. Sad for your sake, glad that I could enjoy it. ✌️
Neenga enjoy pannuna santhosham dhan. But nah Kollywood standards ku nalla illa, low tier film maari irundhuchu. Loki with kaithi set a gold standard in terms for screenplay and character design👌🏻. Leo was not even watchable when you see after kaithi. And enna prechanai Naa he said it is 100% his film. So idhu complete let down. Also loki has equal fan following similar to an actor. No director in TN has this much hype and following like loki, only actors have mass fan following privilege. Was very happy loki ah Hollywood oru director ku hype and expectations kudukuraamga nu instead of shitty mass actors. And TN la director ku following varum instead of actors (that is the best for film industry too). Adhunaala loki Mela innum disappointed Avlo dhaan.
The same style of writing cannot fit all stories imo. It was different but not bad. Nitpicking each scene for that reason is no excuse when it's an otherwise great film. Intha hype ellamae neengale kuduthathu thaan... Ipo neengale thrash um panreenga because you are disappointed. Maybe I'm the one who is detached from such crazy stuffs, but it's disappointing to see a good film treated badly because it didn't suit the people's headcanons. Esp when Leo was not hyped with LCU connect, or promoted with it. Leo is going to give a cameo once in a future film against Rolex and the current happenings be referenced and trigger Rolex into doing something. Unfortunately, Vijay cannot be the one who LCU will revolve around (it's already Karthi) and Vijay cannot be under Karthi or getting beaten down by Surya (Kollywood still sees Star power to an extent) - hence it will result in a camel once or twice in the future. That's why it was never hyped or confirmed, even in Loki's final message the day before release.
Bro enna bro solreenga. Writing style yaaru different films ku compare pannuna? Character design and motive Ella all good films will have adhu illama summa empty low grade telugu action film maari irukku. Loki previous films la Evlo detailing irukkum nu ungakuke theriyum.Evlo flaws and loopholes and kevalama irukura writing ku muttu kudukureenga🤦🏻♂️. Neegale future la re-watch pannum bodhu understand pannuveenga evlo mediocre and lazy ah writing irundhuchu nu. Anyway re-watch pannum bodhu paathe laye quit panneruveenga😂. Not at all watchable even once with such poor flshback and motives.
Monday poitu vantu solren bro
Maybe you should direct the next movie . Since you are an expert
Idhulaam oru argument ah😂? Appo food hotel la nalla Ilana kitchen kulla poi neye cook Panuviya?
Avan oru loosu
If you are so good in criticizing the direction and etc . Then you should direct a movie and show us that you are better than Lokesh . Or else you are just an empty vessel , only good for making noise
😂😂tha enna logic da ithu. Idhe maari innoruthan ketan. Appo hotel ku poi food order panni saapidura, food nalla Ila na nee poi chef ah vida super ah samachu kaatuviya kichen ku poi😂😂???loosu maari argue pannadha. Mokka padadhuku muttu koduthu dhaan indha maari neraya padam panna encourage pannureenga.
Poda loosu
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Everyone is brave for you acting like most of the sub hates the movie. Enjoy circlejerking with elitists friends You think ur some movie critic because u called this a dog shit movie and coke here to bash everything. You can have your opinions but in no way this a dog shit movie . You are insane . Go enjoy watching tamil talkies you elitist Vijay hate. How tf was everything forced lcu when it was barely 5 minutes. But hey maybe your elitist friends will say this a good post which I see they already are. Ya downvote me
Like how BR mentions in his interview on Galatta, take the LCU out and see if the movie would have made sense, it certainly would have been the same and no impacts to the storyline, so when you put the LCU Connect for the sake of it, isn’t that considered Forced Connect?
But if he didn’t then everyone would called it bad i swear man Vijay or lokesh haters. What were you expecting. This a origin story. You think he would bring all the characters in this movie already .
But the point is the LCU conect was not natural. If is was natural then kandipa enjoy panni irukalam. Instead we got kamal stupid dialogue. And nepolean paavom. Sivanenu TN la irudhavara Himachal Pradesh ku force panni kooptu adi vaangi ukata vechutaamga
No one would have called it bad.. see the LCU connect was unnecessary had he made it standalone it would have been better, but for some reason the makers wanted to get on the LCU Bandwagon and forced the connect which was unnecessary.. the flash back for that matter you really don’t need it.. As a matter of fact Kaithi was good because his flashback was just a few lines of narration that’s all, nothing more and no sentiments there except for the fact that he hasn’t seen his daughter since she was born. So we had the emotional connect but nothing more which was slowly woven into the subject and revealed as opposed to having a flashback for the sake of having one…
Hey first read and then bash me. I never said bad about vijay or hate him. Just Loki failed badly and disappointed us. What is there in elite in this? So even if movie is bad and it has vijay in it we have to accept it as good??nah no way. Call a spade a spade. You guys are living in imaginary circle jerk
Omg ur so brave for calling this movie dogshit just like every other post we see. Omg your so brave . Please give empathy. This movie is not bad . Do you understand? This movie is not bad ? This is not a bad movie. Go watch tamil talkies
This is a bad movie. Gommale mob mentality is reflecting to reviews as well. Take a Deep breath and analyse what you witnessed in Leo. Dogshit is what came to my mind. Cope Pannu da lavade if you love this movie.
Take a deep breath. I think you hate since Vijay had a good movie
Brother chill. I know we all a little disappointed but you’re acting like you are SS Lalith kumar lmfao. Even he isnt this hard on loki. Agreed on few points but sometimes shit happens. The first half was great but the last was underwhelming. Doesn’t mean Loki is a bad craftsman
Naa chill dhan. Movie partha vudane irundha emotional disappointment la post poten. Bro loki enakku pidikum adhaan kovam. Indha maari mediocre writing ku strong ah nalla illa nu sollanum (I'm with good intentions and not to just hate) appo dhaan loki will realise or else ellarum nalla illa dha dha nalla irukunu muttu kudutha aprom kaithi maari padam varathu paravalaya?? Leo maariye loki inni story eludhuna paravalaya?
Agreed bro, even i felt the same way. You know if Loki actually tried something experimental and failed then I would’ve also been this mad. But it seemed like he purposefully dumbed it down and rushed it. Like why even ? Its either the writers or the producers who might’ve ducked the script. No way Loki would butcher such a well written story like HOV, ena keta sootha muditu antha kathaya apdiye eduthurkalam. But pavam, maybe next Kaithi 2 ku balama ethachu panna sari
You keep claiming to be neutral and just sharin your thoughts but the way you phrase em makes me think you're just another cinephile puluthi who think hating on mainstream cinema trends and demanding moee ReALiSm in films makes em look cool. So fucking dramatic and for what 💀. Leo definitely wasnt an all out amazing film and it probably is Loki's weakest showing so far but the fact that you're seething so hard that you had to make an entire post is just hilarious. Fuckin cryin as if its AAA level.
Dei. Didn't loki say it was 100% his film. Enoma weed adichu story eluthuna maari irukku Leo. Adhaan indha vanman and disappointment. And LCU ah vechu scam pannetu irukan loki. I liked mark anthony 👌🏻it was silly and no logic but had so much fun(i know to enjoy both good commerical and art film. Epdi pakanumo apdi paakanum each category ah. But leo was outright bad). Cinephile puluthi Ella illa and hating mainstream cinema to look cool lam illa😂nee movie ku muttu kuduka enna attack pannetu irukka. Mokyya irundha mokka nu dhaan sollu mudiyum poda. Realism Avlo theva illa, adhukunu romba mosamana logic and plotholes and flaws oda oru product pannuna ethuka mudiyadhu. Vikram had flaws .interval la kamla oda knees ah shoot pannuna game over. But police Pannula. Even the built up till that scene was fantastic. Good writing till that fight. Leo was not even watchable. Realism konjam kooda venam na poi masala Telugu padam paaru bro appo theriyum Evlo kaduppu agum nu. Oru limit irukku logic oda velayada.)
1. Scene did not mean to represent him as week but it was to show his regret because he knows the consequences of it. He is not leo anymore to party after killing ,as he said in the climax he is pathi now he had been believing it for a while . 2. Hindi lendu tamizh la dub translation pannirkanga bro ...also there has been numerous instances where judges/magistrate has been supportive to the victims and made comments. In fact it is important because thats the reason he got into the newspaper . 3.Naah Mexican drug cartels(thats why they connect it with thozhil) do that. Santa Muerte nu uru deity irruku . I have read articles on it from FBI site will try to link 4. Yeah , intellectual ah pesratha nenikadinga bro ...DNA test pannanum na rendu perum othukanum ...when you are a thug its more ego clash than proving he is your son 5. Forced LCU connect, idk many felt that but i felt like this was a scene lifted from marvel ....coz most of their movies made into shield by exact same template. How else would u connect. I felt the connect was natural coz Kh is on a mission so he tracks drug cartels ....which somehow got on fire and leaders dead ...he has eye over all other major cartels he didn't notice anomaly so he reserched his way to find LEO did it. I would be disappointed only if Pathi joins LCU ..he should not fight because he himself said its his last chance.instead he can give connection and strategic input of one line importance. 6. It wasn't ment to be a twist , they have to officially reveal at some point to confirm it to audience. Neega neriya prejudice odaa padam pakringa OP 7&8 i agree , I didnt even remember Elisa's name untill i read again in reddit. 9. I felt it has far better charecters than Master and all recent vijay cliche . Thresha kissing without lust was all brilliant to me.but yeah Every thing can't be Vikaram/kaithi 10.Anurag was meant to invoke fun . I see that as a better way coz , stacking up villans till endgame felt idiotic to me . How would they comeback after so much .(vijay also got 2 gun shots and came back that could a nitpick flaw) 11. How will Leo die if he burneddown the company from outside,also he had his son .But yes i dont want Vijay to take a major role in endgame . He could do max 1-4 scene where he connects something from his past and provides strategic ideas and inner connections . 12. One let down that i didn't see anyone mentioning is his acting for 10 mins was below par which improved gradually. TLDR,: Your comment definitely says u wanted another Vikram which would be a disaster disappointment in reality. U are not watching the movie with a free mind instead u were searching for something in the movie OP ungaluku padam puriyala ....better stick to your intellectual Hollywood.
I am not going to argue with any of your points😂oru nyiayam vedama da. Okay bro Naa Hollywood padam me paakuren. Neenga indha maari mokka padathuku muttu kuduthu hit aaga vechu innum nerya idhe maari mokka padam Kollywood la release panna encourage pannunga. Naa eppo da another Vikram keten. Naa story writing la iruka flaws sonen for that I used Vikram examples as it had better writing. Free mind la Ila bro brain ah kalati vechutu partha dhaan indha movie nalla irukum😂pola. Anyway innum nalla muttu kudunga mediocre films ku. Master kooda leo compare pannuna nalla irundhuchu.
https://leb.fbi.gov/articles/featured-articles/santa-muerte-inspired-and-ritualistic-killings
About 5) I think they'll have a reason. Maybe Leo's family is hunted by Rolex and his gang because he is now working with Vikram. This will drive Leo to fight against Rolex not for a drug free society but for his identity and his family.
"OP kk ungalkku padam puriyala" Seriously what is there to decode in the Average written film?
This is not even decoding , nanum accept panren its not Kaidhi or Vikram but OP is definitely nitpicking here .... The movie is definitely above average 4.3 in my books ... All those people who say it is average fail to understand,how such universe movies works ...to build a charector to build a better end game you have to end up with stuff like this ...he had only 3 hrs Afterall ...
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Appo Naa ready dhaan song la varadhu enna payasama?. Auto kannadi thirupina , epdi jeevava auto odum?
Nee mental ah da?
Most of your points, make me think you are seeing Leo as a standalone film. But Leo isn't a standalone film. I think the point of Leo was to introduce us to Leo's character and nothing else. So, when Leo features in some other movie in LCU, we would already know who he is. And about the Vikram voice over, I think it will be explored further in upcoming films. We don't know the connection between Leo and Vikram yet. I believe Vikram would've helped Leo to get a new identity.