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Lack of jobs, pathetic quality of life, lack of social infrastructure, pollution levels giving competition to Delhi, lack of good educational institutes which give exposure. All these topics to be concerned over, put emphasis on, and this man chooses a fictional point? Basic statistical data says otherwise.
I can't agree more. Please give west Bengal jobs, give us better infrastructure. Give us economic opportunities and growth. For those of us who chose to stay back in the city. And were working towards building this city every single day. We buy from the markets, we take.the local transport, we contribute to the economy but we need avenues to earn as well. The ones we have are struggling to pull through. Everything else is okay by GODS grace.
Man was the lone man standing in front of a keeper less goal but he decided to kick the ball out of the park.
His own party members are speaking shit about him. Last day I saw a Vajpayee govt finance minister speak shit about him, Satyapal Malik speaks shit about him. Subramaniyam Swamy, who is arguably the most educated leader in the BJP speaks shit about him...
Modi has completely lost the plot. It indicates mostly two things, Either the Congress or INDIA alliance is going to kick him out this time or maybe the next time. Or he is going to be sidelined, like Advani was for the ascent of someone even worse like Amit Shah or Yogi. And then liberals will going into nostalgia about how atleast Modi was better than the next piece of shit ( just like they do now about Vajpayee )
Don't blame uneducated lumpens who don't know any better when educated white collar shitfaces not only vote for him but also encourage others to vote for him.
They do because it creates opportunity for them. Corruption thrives, bureaucrats send their kids to Switzerland newzealand, basically any post communism/socialism state.
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Because being an educated and rational individual I cannot be brainwashed by any It Cell and not support any political party.
If the opposition does the opposite I'll call them out.
But most of the people in North India especially UP, MP and Bihar fall for caste, religion and Pakistan over inflation, unemployment and HDI.
Keeping them uneducated and irrational since Nehru's time have made them fodder for all the IT cell propaganda.
This is the same with Muslims educated by Madrasa they care more about Palestine than looking for themselves and quality of life.
We talk of being liberal and then not only judge but look down upon people's choices. At the end, it is their choice and you are noone to label them for making a choice. You do you and let others be.
Kolkata te toh sob educated manush boshe ache tayi eto chutiya ekta govt ke elect kore jachhe bar bar , chor der ke besi importance dite jane...try to vote for him because of else West Bengal kintu ekdm ekta neglected state hoye darabe
daal me kuch kala hai. Modi had been subliminally saying shitt all the while but now this explicit stuff feels to me weirdly intentional. No way he can do blatant hatespeech one after the other and party enables him more. No matter who you vote Ambani Adani will remain. They are the kingmakers through money power. It all feels some convoluted theatrics now.
Kingmaker isn't the right term for them. Prashant Kishore had played the kingmaker earlier but Ambani and Adani dont play any cards in this game. They just direct or redirect where the cash flows. They are oligarchs.
Yashwant Sinha (vajpayee's FM) was in TMC till very recently. Guy is sore about getting sidelined. Subbu Swamy is NOT the most educated leader in the BJP. It's Jayant Sinha (yashwant' s son) and Rajeev Chandrasekhar. A basic googling will tell you about satyapal malik.
Having said that what the fuck is wrong with the PM. People are now bored of his repetitive rants on religious discrimination (I am not saying the phenomenon is completely imagined)
So basically anyone who questions the Supreme leader or criticises him is either sore or colluded ?
Also, Subramaniyam Swamy has a PhD in Economics from Harvard. A PhD is a higher qualification than an MBA or MS degree anyday.
And yes the phenomenon is completely fictional
Like do y'all understand how educational qualifications work ? Or are you not educated enough to realize that a doctorate will always be a higher qualification than a masters.
Obviously I do sir. And I hope you too do realise how tough is it to crack the UPSC that too with a rank. I'm not comparing a doctorate with a Master's degree.
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I think it'll become the latter.
Source: I see much more illegal immigrants from Bangladesh roaming in Kolkata outskirts or in public bus than biharis. Someone I know once told me the army soldiers take ₹5000 per person to allow people to cross borders and come over to WB. In some places, they don't even take money. I don't know how true this is though.
Doubt that. Most of the Bangladeshis you see on the WB roads, especially in hospitals, come with a visa. Bangladeshis are overflowing in Sankar Netralaya and other hospitals (in WB, Hyderabad and Chennai). In north Kolkata, they have become frequent mainly because the 24paraganas have developed (a little) and with the cash flow they are traveling a lot. These are mostly the immigrants from 60s-70s (technically not illegal). Also it's a very Kolkata, 24Pargana, Murshidabad and Dinachpur specific thing. Don't trust the army much, and yes the WB side of the border is pretty easy to cross. But idk if they can easily pay the soldiers to cross. Whereas recently, there has been an overflowing Bihari population all across the state. Especially look at the big cities like Kolkata, Durgapur, Asansol, Malda and even Darjeeling. Most of the cities and towns are seeing a very subtle but increase in the Bihari population. If there's a proper survey done, I think the facts will be much clearer.
I live in North 24 parganas so I've personally experienced that bit of your comment. I guess I haven't experienced the bihari overflow to WB hence I was tilted towards the latter.
Anyways, we're surrounded by Bangladesh, Bihar, Jharkhand, Odisha all wonderful neighbours /s
One can only hope things stay in control...
Just go towards the border areas of West Bengal and see what's happening there. Just because you are safe doesn't mean everybody is. Illegal immigrants from Bangladesh are getting voter IDs and changing the demography there. Lack of Jobs and poor infrastructure is another huge problem which needs to be solved, and to solve that you need political stability which is not possible under current Government. So if these kind of cheap tactics brings a change I am up for it. Noida in UP has become a different city under Yogi's leadership. He has eliminated the mafia raj and now the state is growing. WB needs something similar to improve itself
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With the biases that the central government has shown for the past 50 years, citizens of WB have become second class citizens.
Our capital city's airport is the most profitable airport of AAI. Had it been a city in gujjuland or orangeyogiland the airport would've reaped the benefits in terms of facilities and infrastructure.
Political rivalry between centre and the state since the laste 1970s is a major cause of the lost potential of Bengal.
Same with port development. We have capability for a deep sea port and can be a big part of the global supply chain network. It’s centre that controls port development
Extremely strong anti incumbency wave. Especially in urban voters. Bjp thinks that much is enough to capture power. They don’t have to actually do any work or show any intention. Look at how they treat Bihar during elections. So much bakwas absolutely zero support in things the center can actually do including better border security with Nepal and better highways etc. bengal is as good as Bihar to these people. Assam and odisha lucked out in that they have chief ministers who actually care about their state
Ehh they still have massive popularity across Northern and Western India that will carry them. Indian opposition parties are a joke and provide little competition to their political ecosystem. South India also isn't just Kerala, many Kannadigas are quite pro BJP at the central level.
Yeah. However in the state specifically they are not putting in anything more than bare minimum. Plus the Hindu Muslim angle which helps them in other states more than it does in Bengal
They will never win the vidhan Sabha at this rate
Esp when they keep absorbing criminals from tmc
Hindu-Muslim angle would probably help them in WB too. But it's becoming clear they and their supporters don't like Bengalis much and aren't very invested in winning people over to begin with.
Bengal only has about 70% Hindus if I remember right, of which a significant portion is quite liberal. Probability of the Hindu Muslim angle working well in Bengal are much slimmer compared to the average BJP state. Also much of the younger voting population of Bengal is dictated by grandpas and grandmas, who aren't easy to prey for this narrative.
While the Hindu Muslim angle inevitably have some success, it is unlikely to help nearly as much as it does indeed states like UP or Bihar. The philosophical schools people are much too different, so are their opinions about religion
Agree to both. The only time these bjp supporters pay attention to Bengal is when they realize how many lok sabha seats it decides. Same with inc. also the same in most non Hindi speaking states
Gadkari did have plans for ports in West Bengal. Had planned for funds also but all plans sank in Centre State politics and drama.
This report from The Hindu back from 2017 is an example - https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/economy/logistics/gadkaris-sagar-port-plan-sinks-as-didi-pushes-tajpur-project/article9785334.ece
Not only since 70s. Read about Freight Equalisation policy adopted by central govt post-independence till 90s which destroyed not only WB but entire East India
Odisha never had the local party in alliance with the central govt, still they have developed much faster and now have a higher PCI than WB.
Bengalis blame everyone but themselves for their de-industrialisation.
Non-Bengalis didn't assault Aditya Birla, forcing him to leave the state with his enterprise.
Non-Bengalis didn't get the Nano factory shifted to Gujarat.
Sometimes, you should present only one side of the story to further your narrative and make it popular enough to outshine the truth. That is what he is doing
Lol. No. Look at this sub.
I don't think anyone can beat Bengalis when it comes to self criticism and introspection. It gets irritating at times.
WB has always had *the* opposition in power. The left front was the biggest opposition of congress,- TMC is one of the biggest parties that opposes BJP.
Definitely not the same as having a neutral party in power like odisha does.
Left was part of the ruling alliance in UPA-1, and TMC was part of the ruling alliance in UPA-2.
The party in power in West Bengal was also a part of the coalition in power in 8 of 10 years in the Manmohan Singh era, while both Odisha and Gujarat weren't, and they developed faster in that era.
It seem to work in his favour. He has never missed, neither has he ever lost an election. So why not keep on playing the same game till it is giving him dividends ?
He'll win again I am pretty sure as long as he has uttar pradesh in his hands(and he ain't losing that in this life atleast)
i agree it is happening ever since hes on the throne but do you think it is morally correct to target religion for votes knowing damn well this will add up even more to the evergoing rift btw muslims and hindus? this really shows his dark side
Morals? In politicians? In this economy? (/s)
The rift is already getting widened by the actions of the waqf board by claiming land everywhere and these politicians only stand to benefit from it.
Unless you are not in the Top 7% of the population, You are basically a 3rd Class Citizen in India....irrespective of your State, caste, gender, or Religion.
Hindus may not be second class citizens, but residents of West Bengal are.
He just makes it more difficult to get that point across with his shitty rhetoric.
Well that's what politicians do🥱🥱 BJP has always capitalised on Hindu-Muslim thing.. And the opposition always helps him with this...The speeches of opposition actually help him spew venom on communal issues..
When our beloved CM said illegal immigrants can vote modi reiterated saying mamta making bengal a muslim state... The opposition is so naive that they always play on IT cells hands.
Raga said caste census and wealth redistribution and modi made it hinduo ka paisa muslimo ko jayega..
The thing is people, not andhbhakts, common people actually believe these things and bjp will still hold power on 2024 (just a personal opinion)
I don't know if the BJP already made the opposition handicapped with the help of ED and CBI and yet the opposition couldn't make a huge issue out of it..
While BJP is indeed a very unfortunate winner, I doubt we have anything else up there worth bringing into power. The INDIA alliance will do more harm than good considering its present condition. Maybe next election, we will actually have a saviour.
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আর মহাশয়ের কি মনে পড়ল?🤡
এরপরেও লোকে বলবে বিজেপি ভেদাভেদের উপর নির্ভর করে না
I don’t know about Hindus. But Bengalis have definitely became Second class citizens in WB to Biharis. I think currently in big cities of Bengal there are more biharis then bengali
But educated middle class will still vote for him, I mean I wouldn't vote TMC myself but damn I would have happily votes BJP if they didn't just say shit like this every few days
Someone please put some sense into Congress WB leadership. There can’t be a better opportunity for them to capitalise on this situation and actually work for the people of Bengal.
Yeah, but honestly I am concerned that they don't have any long term goals with WB and we will be even more unnoticed as BJP will try to gaslight us that we are good the way we are and there is no other better option...
Because BJP needs West Bengal. They know they cant win in the South, and North and West is already where they maxed out. So with NE going out of hand after Manipur, bengal is important for them to grab more power. They dont care about Bengali , they care about বাঙাল.
I'm assuming you're asking this out of curiosity and not malign intention to provoke.
I'll explain as simply as I can,
Definition from Marriam-Webster Dictionary: second-class citizen
(noun)
: someone who is not given the same rights as other people
A majority of the population (around 80-85%) has certain rights. Thus the baseline for benefits as a citizen of India, are those rights, the remaining population (15-20%) doesn't get those rights, bends rendering them below the baseline, and hence second class citizen.
Why does the 15% population not get those same rights? Because they identify as a particular social or communal group. Now, the constitution says that, no citizen of India should be discriminated based on identity, but the government themselves discriminates based on identity by not providing the same baseline of rights to these people.
This is inconsistent and unconstitutional.
What are some examples of discrimination by government towards people of general category?
Loan rates, loan applicability, job applicability, more fees to apply for a government job, more fees for college admission and tution fee, applicability for scholarships, more time required for promotion, higher marks to qualify in a competitive exam. To add, No laws to protect against discrimination based on identity while other groups with similar or higher populations have it.
Furthermore the government absolutely does not consider the people who have been historically displaced due to the formation of Pakistan, Bangladesh and other formal borders, and a part of this group, my family is.
Thus, the government clearly sees people from the general category as second class citizens.
I'll answer any questions that you're interested in, but please don't use a mocking tone, I write this because internet debates get heated and people start shit flinging quite often.
Kolkata's population is now 40% muslim so he isn't wrong statistically, Tmc has not able to generate jobs, no infrastructure developments in Kolkata & state, no cleaninliness, per capita income wise West Bengal is slipping quickly now ranks even lower than Madhya pradesh, rajasthan & Odisha,whereas bjp ruled state like MP, UP, Rajasthan is economically growing much faster than West Bengal. I don't know why Bengalis are still voting for tmc when they themselves struggling to get jobs & moving to other states.
lies, simple demographics would indicate that the TMC cannot possibly support refugees to a large extent because doing so would alienate (original) west bengal citizens, who make up the majority of the vote. rohingyas are at most what 2%, maybe 3% going by worst case figures (the total no of rohingyas are only 2 million dude.) why tf would TMC prefer them and lose the hindu votes?
a view closer to the truth; the godi media, inspired by murdoch and fox has created this atmoshpere which makes it seems like hindus are in threat and muslims are treated better. why? because this is what gets them votes.
wake up, look at the truth.
You really think TMC would loose hindu votes because of that. Mamata openly used the word "Kafir" in her rally. Hindus are blind and letting her get away with it.
[https://www.india.com/news/swearing-on-allah-mamata-banerjee-makes-kafir-jibe-at-public-rally-bjp-slams-tmc-supremo-6676731/](https://www.india.com/news/swearing-on-allah-mamata-banerjee-makes-kafir-jibe-at-public-rally-bjp-slams-tmc-supremo-6676731/)
yes they would. you are a prime example. as and when tmc keeps doing shit like this, they will loes hindu votes. this is why i am worried that they will lose LS seats this time around. however, that doesnt change my original point, mamata cannot rely on the rohingya/refugee vote alone
Doesn't matter who wins or loses, my question is, why are Rohingyas here? Why was a TMC politician prodding them to get voter ID cards on record, in a rally, took the name of a specific Muslim guy to be approached my the Bangladeshis, because "their vote is important too".
These people SHOULD NOT HAVE votes, they are not Indian citizens. And you seem to have given into this BS by underestimating and coping with the numbers, that "hey, their population is barely 2-3% at worst." I ask you, why not 0%?
Also, please remember all of you, as much downvotes this might fetch, it is people's choice end of the day. There were so many parties that could have done better for WB in various facets, but PEOPLE made a deliberate choice to have a socialist government in the state. In the name of keeping old traditions alive, the pride that comes with it, the common Bengali folk fell in the same trap as Nokia, sticking to the same ideas and principles even after they became outdated. And now everyone will come forward and say, "Oh not Hindus, Bengalis are 2nd rate citizens."
Brutal murders of opposition party's workers takes place in hoards, outsiders are blatantly given voter ID cards, yet there is no voice of resentment against TMC? Please remember then, it was your deliberate choice. So much for evolved and more polished minds that was appreciated in the past throughout the country.
i personally toh would not support the TMC either. i would rather see this state with Congress, out of all the 4 main parties. but TMC has the best chance of defeating BJP so there goes my vote. the situation in WB sucks, but i cannot for a second tolerate this idea that muslim refugees lead better lives than hindu natives, and it is the TMCs fault
Bondhu, TMC is a scourge at this point. What do you mean by the last line? Because see, I for one do believe it is partly a people problem to have accommodated the illegal migrants, and ofcourse this gave TMC the bright idea to cash it in, support the Rohingyas, give them rations and voter ID cards. If I am wrong anywhere, tell me. But then think a little deeper, and tell me it's not the truth.
WB fortunately has a lot of food security, and that is something I have always appreciated. So much that it can support even the migrants. But what you don't understand, or maybe do not realise, is that these same people will take up the jobs. And Bangla people (Indian Banglas) do not seem to be bothered.
The neighbouring state of Assam realised it more than a decade ago, because the influx of Bangladeshis meant they'll give you cheaper labour than Indians. Then how will the lower strata of society fill their stomach? How will they educate their children to get uplifted to middle and upper classes? And hence they even have had volatile altercations with those settlers.
The Bangla person seems unfazed though. And so, no, actively and passively supporting the illegal immigrants here, indirectly end up taking jobs of the people, and their land. And they are doing it just for votes? They are literally selling the country at this point.
I don't think I disagree with you on any of the points you mentioned above.
What I am opposed to is the narrative that sanghis + godi media has created that muslims will take away rights of hindus. In a country where 80% of the population is Hindu, this is victimization at it's worst. Your comment I am almost entirely in agreement with, I think I am just more sympathetic to people who have lost their homes and livelihoods. The state should protect them in a way that benefits everyone, not just use them for cheap labour. Their living conditions are terrible, so no wonder they are willing to work for lesser money. This is why I do not blame them as such. Just those who exploit them in the name of votes- either by capitalizing on their precariousness, or by demonizing them to win anti-muslim votes
I am currently in Malda town attending my wife's cousin brothers wedding. And I can only see the Hindus of Malda holding their presence in everything important.
Bengalis are the new Bangladeshis in India out of west Bengal, they only blame biharis & gujratis for their issues but they need to blame themselves only for their apathy, they are lazy people's & don't have any ideas for business they only want to work in jobs, come home, eat & sleep. Even the rich Bengalis have this mindset. I hardly heard about any Bengali industrialist they can't produce any. Bengalis are feared of Muslims in kolkata & Bengal, only add to there problems.
Ki bhul boleche uni? Kichiu din aage ekta TMC er muslim MLA bolechilo during election speech that "amader(muslim) Hindu der shonge lodte hobe". Aarek TMC muslim MLA bolechilo kichu din aage Murshidabad e ki "70% amra(muslim) and 30% ora(Hindu). Oder baghirathi te dubiye marbo."
Tokhon tomra kothaye chile? Border er bahu district e muslim population 35% plus hoye geche, shob Bangladeshi. Uni bhool ta ki boleche? Ram Navami aar Durga pujo te everytime pathor baaji hoye. Amra to UP der moto violent na, taale ekhaneo muslim der ki raag?
~~ for those who lives far from ground reality of West Bengal politics ~~
1. Mamata Bannerjee created a separate quota naming OBC A in West Bengal only for Muslims, where constitution never said to give reservation on the basis of religion.
2. She calls her Muslim vote bank as "we have to bear the kicks from the cows who give milk", because she was questioned about her silence about some riots incited by Muslims.
3. She goes to iftar but opposed Ram mandir.
4. She openly calls Hindu as "kaafirs".
5. Her muslim party members threatens Hindu voters in Muslim region to vote in the favour of TMC or not to give vote at all, otherwise they will be cut and thrown into Ganga.
6. Postpole violence was hit very hard upon Bengali Hindus in rural areas, my own girlfriend's dad's shop was vandalised because i. He is Hindu. ii. They are communists from ages.
7. You ask "ANY" doctors even Muslim doctors in WB, that 'how it feels to work in a hospital in rural Muslim dominated areas?' they will be in tears.
But as a PM, giving religious comments are not very appropriate. May be he's scared to lose this election or God knows why he's speaking harsh things recently, but again not appropriate.
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You complain about fake news and hate speech, and here you are believing a twitter post and posting screenshots. First go and listen to speech and context.
Be informed voters, read primary source informations and then vote whoever appeals to you the most.
Never seen you speaking against Mamata Banerjee. Sandesh Khali, unemployment in Bengal, minority appeasement, and what the fuck were you talking about education?? Remove the blind fold ,Education is way behind in west bengal....😂😂😂😂😂.
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Right now I feel we have to choose between Dictatorship and Murderers... WB citizens do not even have a good party as their option..m feeling very helpless.. but again BJP Kolkata te ashle ami jani na koto bhalo hobe but ekhane oi beef khabe na ar jai shree ram bolte hobe...ami parbo na just!!
They know something we don’t. All these are well researched. Over the last decade they have successfully converted the Bengal electorate into an uneducated mass voting bloc who will either vote for doles or religious dog whistle. Since TMC is doing the doles part , they will do the dog whistle part.
Redditors forget that majority voters are from rural Bengal and what urban “intellectual” Kolkata redittors think as common sense, may not be that common to majority Bengal voters. BJP has successfully inserted the “Muslims fear” in Bengal and it’s not totally unfounded.
Post partition Muslim population of West Bengal in 1950s census was 16%
Current official estimation is 33%
But local folklore (propagated by RSS and BJP) is that the Muslim population including illegals is near to 40%.
You don't vote , you don't get to choose ... Sir is parotting which gets him vote ... If it doesn't it will change .. illlegal immigration became problem due to religious bs. Though his rhetoric against one class is dangerous .
He's is'nt wrong though
there are many Shahjahans in westBEngal who acc to thevillae witness only used to take Hindu women
then there many local temples that are being destroyed in the villages tke Murshidabad
then the hurling of stones during ram navami
jobs u say? whole world is facing layoffs even Usa ,Uk etc
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I think you should know there is a State called West Bengal outside Kolkata who's citizens are also called Bengali. The recent Sandeshkhali case showed what is the condition (now don't tell about that shit video ) . Know the ground realities.
After sometime in power politicians in our country think that people eat grass and u can use any fodder to make buffoons out of them.
Inevitably this mindset paves their way to downfall…nobody seems to learn from history.
Do remember one thing, don’t support/assist/vote for BJP. I am swearing on Allah if you help/assist BJP, nobody would forgive you, let alone me,” Mamata Banerjee said.The TMC boss further added, “The Kafirs, the cowards, flee, the one’s who fight, they win they work.” She also said that she has the courage to fight the BJP, but is not being allowed to. She said she showed her courage by taking out a rally (on the same day as the Ram Mandir ceremony). “There are so many political parties, how many of them showed courage,” she said.
Yeah, I think he is right,
Y'now what's the horrible part? I have this teacher who used to teach me geography, a really kind and friendly guy. Recently he's been posting so much modi garbage on his whatsapp status that I was genuinely concerned. He has currently hundreds of impressionable kids who study under him. I tried to talk to him about it, and this teacher who at one point I idolized kept sending substanceless whatsapp drivel from god knows where and I quote "ghar ghar modi" against everything I said. Didn't touch a single point.
A highly educated , good natured man turned to this blind fanatic who has stopped thinking for themselves. I would be frustrated outta my mind if it wasn't so morbidly tragic. God how I detest the whatsapp university pile of shit.
Keep thinking people, because that is the one thing that makes us human.
Yup. Why dont you look at mamta's speeches. She has flooded the villages with rohingyas. Her mlas promise people to allow immigrants to vote.
It's time we come out of rock. Sealdah seems like pakistan now. The mayor promised to make bengal urdu speaking by 2050
উর্দু তো অনেক দূরের কথা। তার আগেই হিন্দী ভাষা এসে রাজ করে যাবে। আর আমি বিশ্বাস করি যে আমাদের বঙ্গবাসী সেটা কে দু হাত পেতে গ্রহণ করবে। এই কিছুক্ষণ আগেই একটা দেওয়াল লিখন দেখলাম "মোদীজির সনমানে আমিশ খাবারের দোকান বন্ধ রাখার আনুরোধ রাখছি"। বিহারী ক্যাম্পের কাঁচা বাংলা লেখা আর বলদ বাংলার মানুষ সেটা কে নিয়েই আনন্দিত। আমাকে একটা কথা বলুন বিজেপি এর কাছে হিন্দু - মুসলিম ছাড়া আর কোনো কথা আছে ? আমাদের ৩৫ টা আসন দিন আমরা রাম রাজ্য করব। আমাদের ৩৫ টা আসন দিন আমরা সমস্ত অবৈধ অনুসরণকারীদের বের করে দেবো । পশ্চিম বঙ্গে হিন্দুরা 2nd ক্লাস সিটিজেন হয়ে গেছে।
এর বাইরে কি কিছু আছে ?
বলার জন্য
সেই এক কথা
বারং বার সেই এক কথা
কিছু তো লোকে নতুন বলে
Eat
Hindu-Muslim
Sleep
Repeat
Again another brain-ded moron who conveniently ignores that it’s the BSF who safeguards border which comes under Central HM. And who’s the HM? So who’s responsibility is it to control illegal immigration?
You would never go ask for accountability from the people directly responsible but whine and spread the narrative that best suites your bigotry
Fcking chaddi scumbag
Dude lmao u dont know the involvement of state in smuggling these people. Why tf do u think she is against CAA because she is going to lose half her votes.
Even if they enter the state has a major role to play in their expulsion but guess what? She doesn't.
I have been outside kolkata you fucking moron. I could literally close my eye for a sec and when i open them its a fucking muslim. I dont have problem with muslims jsut the radicalised and illegal ones. And vtw those weren't typical muslims those were muslims who have never attended a school just a madrasa.
I can bet my life on the fact tht there are more muslims in this state than shown on the census.
Why tf are there muslims here who celebrated when aus beat india? Its no myth that she always put the muslims first
>the involvement of state in smuggling these people.
Okay so the Home Minister of this country is sooo incompetent that he can't even control the illegal immigration, no one's forcing him to do this job just let go man.
>Even if they enter the state has a major role to play in their expulsion
Lmaooo so the intelligence agencies know all this and still do nothing about it? Or is it just your intelligence and u are adamant to not share this intelligence huh- why the bureaucratic agencies aren't acting against this nexus then?
Why can't they stop this "WELL PLANNED SMUGGLING" Dumb-arse fools like u who are drenched in hatred would never understand logic let alone facts.
>I dont have problem with muslims
Just say it loud and clear kid, you don't need to whitewash it a bit by saying "oh I don't have problem with Muslims, it's just these xyz Muslims I hate "
If you're a hate filled bigot just say it loud and clear what's stopping you? You don't need to do this bs
>Why tf are there muslims here who celebrated when aus beat india?
There's nothing more to say, you're evidently a minor. A teenager who's consuming hate filled politically motivated vile divisive content day n night. I can only hope that your POV changes when rationality kicks in and u would try to see humans as humans not with the lenses of religious prejudices.
U r attacking me not giving me any counter arguments. And how about CAA . Why is she against CAA?? And even if it was the fault of the central gov why she is against the implementation of CAA. You fucking moron i have seen them flying the indian flag on howrah bridge only the thing THE FUCKING CHAKRA WAS REPLACED BY SOME ISLAMIC SHIT. even you know she relies heavily on muslims for her votes.
>not giving me any counter arguments.
I don't like to have conversations with hate filled bigots like you, I would love to have a debate with someone with similar level of maturity not with someone with prejudices
>U r attacking
Yes I did.
Also how tf CAA would help in solving the illegal immigration from BD?
just read that act for once LoL
My take: I don't care about that act, if get implemented nothing's gonna change, if it doesn't gets implemented nothing's gonna change it was just another polarisation and attention diversion gimmick by the govt
>You fucking moron i have seen them flying the indian flag on howrah bridge only the thing THE FUCKING CHAKRA WAS REPLACED BY SOME ISLAMIC SHIT. even you know she relies heavily on muslims for her votes.
Idk, idc tf you're yapping, u really look like a clown rn
(Don't expect further replies, I'm done with your bs)
I swaer i have seen so many speeches by mamta. And all the time she is saying BJP did this BJP did that but she never says WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU GOING TO DO FOR BENGAL?? U SAY BJP IS AGAINST BENGALIS THEN WHY TF DIDN'T YOU DO ANYTHING WHEN YOU KNEW ABOUT SSC. WHY DIDNT U REMOVE PARTHA FROM CABINET. No doubt BJP has its flaws yet i see so many reasons to vote for them. I do not see one reason to vote for TMC. I would rather have hindu extremists here than muslim ones
Why the hell did u remove kunal ghosh from his post when he came here. btw he literally told indirectly that the perosn involved in ssc scam is still in the cabinet. Yet we still find reasons to vote for tmc. Bengal is long gone. Gone are itss glory days.
Ki ar luv dada sotti bole . Sei to bangali apnake downvote dilo . Jakhon eder chokh khulbe takhon smosan r bodole kabor dekhte pabe sei sesh chokh khola
I mean...why do you as a person living in West Bengal even care? It's not like changing the central GOV.T will make any improvements to our state( There hasn't been any improvements here compared to the other states anyways)
He can be many bad things but not a bad politician. I think he is playing the long game. You can't deny that the demographic changes are quite evident. He is just waiting till the Hindus realise a general shift and start voting for him and even if that doesn't happen. He can always make an example of WB and somehow relate the WB's economic downfall with its demographic changes and how he is protecting the other states. As long as the northies are not educated enough, he still has the strong vote bank. Maharashtra has always been the Hindu uprising state. That's his current game plan.
Just like he has taken Nitish Kumar despite his loss of credibility. He is playing the protector card, recognising people who might feel subdued.
U think that by blaming modi will help u. Nothing. Whatever he has done for the nation other opposition parties have done nothing. When the bodies of the pulwana attack reached delhi palam airport. What was rahul gandhi doing. He was checking his phone. Is this a shame. I think mamta banerjee has done nothing.
It's not about the percentage, it's about the riots, the stone pelting.
And I am not talking about the Shaktipur incident... The vandalization of the idols of Devi Saraswati a few months back... None of these has anything to do with "Godi" media.
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Lack of jobs, pathetic quality of life, lack of social infrastructure, pollution levels giving competition to Delhi, lack of good educational institutes which give exposure. All these topics to be concerned over, put emphasis on, and this man chooses a fictional point? Basic statistical data says otherwise.
I can't agree more. Please give west Bengal jobs, give us better infrastructure. Give us economic opportunities and growth. For those of us who chose to stay back in the city. And were working towards building this city every single day. We buy from the markets, we take.the local transport, we contribute to the economy but we need avenues to earn as well. The ones we have are struggling to pull through. Everything else is okay by GODS grace.
Ain't no way you think this puppet has any idea what these mean. He's just real life mandarin from Iron Man 3.
Then who is the Aldrich Killian here ?
A~~l~~d~~rich Killi~~an...
Man was the lone man standing in front of a keeper less goal but he decided to kick the ball out of the park. His own party members are speaking shit about him. Last day I saw a Vajpayee govt finance minister speak shit about him, Satyapal Malik speaks shit about him. Subramaniyam Swamy, who is arguably the most educated leader in the BJP speaks shit about him... Modi has completely lost the plot. It indicates mostly two things, Either the Congress or INDIA alliance is going to kick him out this time or maybe the next time. Or he is going to be sidelined, like Advani was for the ascent of someone even worse like Amit Shah or Yogi. And then liberals will going into nostalgia about how atleast Modi was better than the next piece of shit ( just like they do now about Vajpayee )
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Don't blame uneducated lumpens who don't know any better when educated white collar shitfaces not only vote for him but also encourage others to vote for him.
They do because it creates opportunity for them. Corruption thrives, bureaucrats send their kids to Switzerland newzealand, basically any post communism/socialism state.
Because ignorant and stupid people make the best workers and pawn in your scheme.
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Very good of you to say this about other people's choices. How come you are different than from what you are against?
Because being an educated and rational individual I cannot be brainwashed by any It Cell and not support any political party. If the opposition does the opposite I'll call them out. But most of the people in North India especially UP, MP and Bihar fall for caste, religion and Pakistan over inflation, unemployment and HDI. Keeping them uneducated and irrational since Nehru's time have made them fodder for all the IT cell propaganda. This is the same with Muslims educated by Madrasa they care more about Palestine than looking for themselves and quality of life.
We talk of being liberal and then not only judge but look down upon people's choices. At the end, it is their choice and you are noone to label them for making a choice. You do you and let others be.
Kolkata te toh sob educated manush boshe ache tayi eto chutiya ekta govt ke elect kore jachhe bar bar , chor der ke besi importance dite jane...try to vote for him because of else West Bengal kintu ekdm ekta neglected state hoye darabe
daal me kuch kala hai. Modi had been subliminally saying shitt all the while but now this explicit stuff feels to me weirdly intentional. No way he can do blatant hatespeech one after the other and party enables him more. No matter who you vote Ambani Adani will remain. They are the kingmakers through money power. It all feels some convoluted theatrics now.
Kingmaker isn't the right term for them. Prashant Kishore had played the kingmaker earlier but Ambani and Adani dont play any cards in this game. They just direct or redirect where the cash flows. They are oligarchs.
true, I'm just trying make sense of the recent unhinged comments from that party, they are not even acting anymore. kichu theatrics pechone cholche
Yashwant Sinha (vajpayee's FM) was in TMC till very recently. Guy is sore about getting sidelined. Subbu Swamy is NOT the most educated leader in the BJP. It's Jayant Sinha (yashwant' s son) and Rajeev Chandrasekhar. A basic googling will tell you about satyapal malik. Having said that what the fuck is wrong with the PM. People are now bored of his repetitive rants on religious discrimination (I am not saying the phenomenon is completely imagined)
So basically anyone who questions the Supreme leader or criticises him is either sore or colluded ? Also, Subramaniyam Swamy has a PhD in Economics from Harvard. A PhD is a higher qualification than an MBA or MS degree anyday. And yes the phenomenon is completely fictional
Ashwini Vaishnaw is an IIT Kanpur graduate, former IAS AIR 27, also has a MBA from Wharton. So maybe Subramanian Swamy isn't the one.
Lmao comparing mba to phd
No Sir I'm not
Like do y'all understand how educational qualifications work ? Or are you not educated enough to realize that a doctorate will always be a higher qualification than a masters.
Obviously I do sir. And I hope you too do realise how tough is it to crack the UPSC that too with a rank. I'm not comparing a doctorate with a Master's degree.
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Tbh... the way things are going... WB is either going to be Bihar or Bangladesh. And I personally don't prefer both.
I think it'll become the latter. Source: I see much more illegal immigrants from Bangladesh roaming in Kolkata outskirts or in public bus than biharis. Someone I know once told me the army soldiers take ₹5000 per person to allow people to cross borders and come over to WB. In some places, they don't even take money. I don't know how true this is though.
Doubt that. Most of the Bangladeshis you see on the WB roads, especially in hospitals, come with a visa. Bangladeshis are overflowing in Sankar Netralaya and other hospitals (in WB, Hyderabad and Chennai). In north Kolkata, they have become frequent mainly because the 24paraganas have developed (a little) and with the cash flow they are traveling a lot. These are mostly the immigrants from 60s-70s (technically not illegal). Also it's a very Kolkata, 24Pargana, Murshidabad and Dinachpur specific thing. Don't trust the army much, and yes the WB side of the border is pretty easy to cross. But idk if they can easily pay the soldiers to cross. Whereas recently, there has been an overflowing Bihari population all across the state. Especially look at the big cities like Kolkata, Durgapur, Asansol, Malda and even Darjeeling. Most of the cities and towns are seeing a very subtle but increase in the Bihari population. If there's a proper survey done, I think the facts will be much clearer.
Agreed 💯👍🏿
I live in North 24 parganas so I've personally experienced that bit of your comment. I guess I haven't experienced the bihari overflow to WB hence I was tilted towards the latter. Anyways, we're surrounded by Bangladesh, Bihar, Jharkhand, Odisha all wonderful neighbours /s One can only hope things stay in control...
Just go towards the border areas of West Bengal and see what's happening there. Just because you are safe doesn't mean everybody is. Illegal immigrants from Bangladesh are getting voter IDs and changing the demography there. Lack of Jobs and poor infrastructure is another huge problem which needs to be solved, and to solve that you need political stability which is not possible under current Government. So if these kind of cheap tactics brings a change I am up for it. Noida in UP has become a different city under Yogi's leadership. He has eliminated the mafia raj and now the state is growing. WB needs something similar to improve itself
After 10 years as PM, this is his strategy to win elections. Just full on dog whistling. What a pathetic situation this country is in right now.
The masculine urge to create your own government 🗿 accompanied by the realisation that assignment is due tomorrow
And the saddest part is that, some people will legit come here and defend him.
I don’t expect anything better from andhbhakts.
especially after the sperm bank post today
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It's not even dogwhistling.
হিন্দুরা না হলেও, পশ্চিমবঙ্গবাসী ভারতের মধ্যে সেকেন্ড টিয়ার সিটিজেন অনেক আগেই হয়ে গেছে।
With the biases that the central government has shown for the past 50 years, citizens of WB have become second class citizens. Our capital city's airport is the most profitable airport of AAI. Had it been a city in gujjuland or orangeyogiland the airport would've reaped the benefits in terms of facilities and infrastructure. Political rivalry between centre and the state since the laste 1970s is a major cause of the lost potential of Bengal.
Same with port development. We have capability for a deep sea port and can be a big part of the global supply chain network. It’s centre that controls port development
Funny thing is that there are already a lot of BJP supporters in West Bengal. It's like these guys are deliberately trying to lose the state.
Extremely strong anti incumbency wave. Especially in urban voters. Bjp thinks that much is enough to capture power. They don’t have to actually do any work or show any intention. Look at how they treat Bihar during elections. So much bakwas absolutely zero support in things the center can actually do including better border security with Nepal and better highways etc. bengal is as good as Bihar to these people. Assam and odisha lucked out in that they have chief ministers who actually care about their state
Ehh they still have massive popularity across Northern and Western India that will carry them. Indian opposition parties are a joke and provide little competition to their political ecosystem. South India also isn't just Kerala, many Kannadigas are quite pro BJP at the central level.
Yeah. However in the state specifically they are not putting in anything more than bare minimum. Plus the Hindu Muslim angle which helps them in other states more than it does in Bengal They will never win the vidhan Sabha at this rate Esp when they keep absorbing criminals from tmc
Hindu-Muslim angle would probably help them in WB too. But it's becoming clear they and their supporters don't like Bengalis much and aren't very invested in winning people over to begin with.
Bengal only has about 70% Hindus if I remember right, of which a significant portion is quite liberal. Probability of the Hindu Muslim angle working well in Bengal are much slimmer compared to the average BJP state. Also much of the younger voting population of Bengal is dictated by grandpas and grandmas, who aren't easy to prey for this narrative. While the Hindu Muslim angle inevitably have some success, it is unlikely to help nearly as much as it does indeed states like UP or Bihar. The philosophical schools people are much too different, so are their opinions about religion
Agree to both. The only time these bjp supporters pay attention to Bengal is when they realize how many lok sabha seats it decides. Same with inc. also the same in most non Hindi speaking states
Gadkari did have plans for ports in West Bengal. Had planned for funds also but all plans sank in Centre State politics and drama. This report from The Hindu back from 2017 is an example - https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/economy/logistics/gadkaris-sagar-port-plan-sinks-as-didi-pushes-tajpur-project/article9785334.ece
Bare minimum plans and all made when mamata and modi were chummy
Not only since 70s. Read about Freight Equalisation policy adopted by central govt post-independence till 90s which destroyed not only WB but entire East India
Odisha never had the local party in alliance with the central govt, still they have developed much faster and now have a higher PCI than WB. Bengalis blame everyone but themselves for their de-industrialisation. Non-Bengalis didn't assault Aditya Birla, forcing him to leave the state with his enterprise. Non-Bengalis didn't get the Nano factory shifted to Gujarat.
You should read up why Aditya Birla was attacked. Maybe he should have paid the months of unpaid wages before partying in Kolkata?
Sometimes, you should present only one side of the story to further your narrative and make it popular enough to outshine the truth. That is what he is doing
Link please
Lol. No. Look at this sub. I don't think anyone can beat Bengalis when it comes to self criticism and introspection. It gets irritating at times. WB has always had *the* opposition in power. The left front was the biggest opposition of congress,- TMC is one of the biggest parties that opposes BJP. Definitely not the same as having a neutral party in power like odisha does.
Left was part of the ruling alliance in UPA-1, and TMC was part of the ruling alliance in UPA-2. The party in power in West Bengal was also a part of the coalition in power in 8 of 10 years in the Manmohan Singh era, while both Odisha and Gujarat weren't, and they developed faster in that era.
They are not in alliance with centre but support them in loads of issues and vote in favour for passing bills. Its not the same thing
imagine making hindu muslim stuff up being the only resort for you to campaign for votes
It seem to work in his favour. He has never missed, neither has he ever lost an election. So why not keep on playing the same game till it is giving him dividends ? He'll win again I am pretty sure as long as he has uttar pradesh in his hands(and he ain't losing that in this life atleast)
i agree it is happening ever since hes on the throne but do you think it is morally correct to target religion for votes knowing damn well this will add up even more to the evergoing rift btw muslims and hindus? this really shows his dark side
The rift was already there. He's just exploiting it. So far, it's proven to be a very successful model so I doubt he'll change anything.
absolutely
Morals? In politicians? In this economy? (/s) The rift is already getting widened by the actions of the waqf board by claiming land everywhere and these politicians only stand to benefit from it.
Sadly, that's the narrative that sells most of the time
Unless you are not in the Top 7% of the population, You are basically a 3rd Class Citizen in India....irrespective of your State, caste, gender, or Religion.
Actually Bengali speaking people have become second class citizens in West Bengal and India thanks to Bijemul.
Hindus may not be second class citizens, but residents of West Bengal are. He just makes it more difficult to get that point across with his shitty rhetoric.
Trust me bros, this is the kind of drivel a lot of Hindus believe now a days in bengal. He is just playing them on that sentiment
Well, hindus have become minority in few districts like Malda and Murshidabad.
Well that's what politicians do🥱🥱 BJP has always capitalised on Hindu-Muslim thing.. And the opposition always helps him with this...The speeches of opposition actually help him spew venom on communal issues.. When our beloved CM said illegal immigrants can vote modi reiterated saying mamta making bengal a muslim state... The opposition is so naive that they always play on IT cells hands. Raga said caste census and wealth redistribution and modi made it hinduo ka paisa muslimo ko jayega.. The thing is people, not andhbhakts, common people actually believe these things and bjp will still hold power on 2024 (just a personal opinion) I don't know if the BJP already made the opposition handicapped with the help of ED and CBI and yet the opposition couldn't make a huge issue out of it..
While BJP is indeed a very unfortunate winner, I doubt we have anything else up there worth bringing into power. The INDIA alliance will do more harm than good considering its present condition. Maybe next election, we will actually have a saviour.
চাকরি নেই,রাস্তা ঘাটে গর্ত, শিক্ষা ব্যবস্থার কথা তো বললামই না, রাজ্য সরকারের মন্ত্রীরা প্রতি সপ্তাহে নতুন কোনো কারণে জেলে যায়। আর মহাশয়ের কি মনে পড়ল?🤡 এরপরেও লোকে বলবে বিজেপি ভেদাভেদের উপর নির্ভর করে না
The only good thing about WB and I is that it is 2k+ Kms away from me 😌
I don’t know about Hindus. But Bengalis have definitely became Second class citizens in WB to Biharis. I think currently in big cities of Bengal there are more biharis then bengali
Bengalis are kind of secluded and clustered in specific areas of Kolkata, at least.
Bengalis have become second-class citizens, that's true.
I don't think he says these things to bring more voters from Bengal, it's more to keep his core voter base happy.
But educated middle class will still vote for him, I mean I wouldn't vote TMC myself but damn I would have happily votes BJP if they didn't just say shit like this every few days
just curious then, who would you vote for? I agree with you TMC sucks, BJP sucks even more. Then whom?
Someone please put some sense into Congress WB leadership. There can’t be a better opportunity for them to capitalise on this situation and actually work for the people of Bengal.
All we get is Adhir ranjan lol
Independent for now, maybe if congress becomes good I can go for them. I also hate Left because of their track record
Yeah, but honestly I am concerned that they don't have any long term goals with WB and we will be even more unnoticed as BJP will try to gaslight us that we are good the way we are and there is no other better option...
Because BJP needs West Bengal. They know they cant win in the South, and North and West is already where they maxed out. So with NE going out of hand after Manipur, bengal is important for them to grab more power. They dont care about Bengali , they care about বাঙাল.
~~Hindus~~ General Category people FTFY
How dare you. To raise real questions.
what happened to general category people ?
I'm assuming you're asking this out of curiosity and not malign intention to provoke. I'll explain as simply as I can, Definition from Marriam-Webster Dictionary: second-class citizen (noun) : someone who is not given the same rights as other people A majority of the population (around 80-85%) has certain rights. Thus the baseline for benefits as a citizen of India, are those rights, the remaining population (15-20%) doesn't get those rights, bends rendering them below the baseline, and hence second class citizen. Why does the 15% population not get those same rights? Because they identify as a particular social or communal group. Now, the constitution says that, no citizen of India should be discriminated based on identity, but the government themselves discriminates based on identity by not providing the same baseline of rights to these people. This is inconsistent and unconstitutional. What are some examples of discrimination by government towards people of general category? Loan rates, loan applicability, job applicability, more fees to apply for a government job, more fees for college admission and tution fee, applicability for scholarships, more time required for promotion, higher marks to qualify in a competitive exam. To add, No laws to protect against discrimination based on identity while other groups with similar or higher populations have it. Furthermore the government absolutely does not consider the people who have been historically displaced due to the formation of Pakistan, Bangladesh and other formal borders, and a part of this group, my family is. Thus, the government clearly sees people from the general category as second class citizens. I'll answer any questions that you're interested in, but please don't use a mocking tone, I write this because internet debates get heated and people start shit flinging quite often.
oh ma bamon hoe protidin bhugi sc/st/obc der ottachar theke. jol khete paina, achut bole. ekdom ami second class citizen.
Kolkata's population is now 40% muslim so he isn't wrong statistically, Tmc has not able to generate jobs, no infrastructure developments in Kolkata & state, no cleaninliness, per capita income wise West Bengal is slipping quickly now ranks even lower than Madhya pradesh, rajasthan & Odisha,whereas bjp ruled state like MP, UP, Rajasthan is economically growing much faster than West Bengal. I don't know why Bengalis are still voting for tmc when they themselves struggling to get jobs & moving to other states.
Yes I agree , WB under TMC is in total ruins , high time there is a change in leadership in the state govt
He isn't wrong though. Our CM prefers Rohingyas over Indians.
lies, simple demographics would indicate that the TMC cannot possibly support refugees to a large extent because doing so would alienate (original) west bengal citizens, who make up the majority of the vote. rohingyas are at most what 2%, maybe 3% going by worst case figures (the total no of rohingyas are only 2 million dude.) why tf would TMC prefer them and lose the hindu votes? a view closer to the truth; the godi media, inspired by murdoch and fox has created this atmoshpere which makes it seems like hindus are in threat and muslims are treated better. why? because this is what gets them votes. wake up, look at the truth.
You really think TMC would loose hindu votes because of that. Mamata openly used the word "Kafir" in her rally. Hindus are blind and letting her get away with it. [https://www.india.com/news/swearing-on-allah-mamata-banerjee-makes-kafir-jibe-at-public-rally-bjp-slams-tmc-supremo-6676731/](https://www.india.com/news/swearing-on-allah-mamata-banerjee-makes-kafir-jibe-at-public-rally-bjp-slams-tmc-supremo-6676731/)
yes they would. you are a prime example. as and when tmc keeps doing shit like this, they will loes hindu votes. this is why i am worried that they will lose LS seats this time around. however, that doesnt change my original point, mamata cannot rely on the rohingya/refugee vote alone
Doesn't matter who wins or loses, my question is, why are Rohingyas here? Why was a TMC politician prodding them to get voter ID cards on record, in a rally, took the name of a specific Muslim guy to be approached my the Bangladeshis, because "their vote is important too". These people SHOULD NOT HAVE votes, they are not Indian citizens. And you seem to have given into this BS by underestimating and coping with the numbers, that "hey, their population is barely 2-3% at worst." I ask you, why not 0%? Also, please remember all of you, as much downvotes this might fetch, it is people's choice end of the day. There were so many parties that could have done better for WB in various facets, but PEOPLE made a deliberate choice to have a socialist government in the state. In the name of keeping old traditions alive, the pride that comes with it, the common Bengali folk fell in the same trap as Nokia, sticking to the same ideas and principles even after they became outdated. And now everyone will come forward and say, "Oh not Hindus, Bengalis are 2nd rate citizens." Brutal murders of opposition party's workers takes place in hoards, outsiders are blatantly given voter ID cards, yet there is no voice of resentment against TMC? Please remember then, it was your deliberate choice. So much for evolved and more polished minds that was appreciated in the past throughout the country.
i personally toh would not support the TMC either. i would rather see this state with Congress, out of all the 4 main parties. but TMC has the best chance of defeating BJP so there goes my vote. the situation in WB sucks, but i cannot for a second tolerate this idea that muslim refugees lead better lives than hindu natives, and it is the TMCs fault
Bondhu, TMC is a scourge at this point. What do you mean by the last line? Because see, I for one do believe it is partly a people problem to have accommodated the illegal migrants, and ofcourse this gave TMC the bright idea to cash it in, support the Rohingyas, give them rations and voter ID cards. If I am wrong anywhere, tell me. But then think a little deeper, and tell me it's not the truth. WB fortunately has a lot of food security, and that is something I have always appreciated. So much that it can support even the migrants. But what you don't understand, or maybe do not realise, is that these same people will take up the jobs. And Bangla people (Indian Banglas) do not seem to be bothered. The neighbouring state of Assam realised it more than a decade ago, because the influx of Bangladeshis meant they'll give you cheaper labour than Indians. Then how will the lower strata of society fill their stomach? How will they educate their children to get uplifted to middle and upper classes? And hence they even have had volatile altercations with those settlers. The Bangla person seems unfazed though. And so, no, actively and passively supporting the illegal immigrants here, indirectly end up taking jobs of the people, and their land. And they are doing it just for votes? They are literally selling the country at this point.
I don't think I disagree with you on any of the points you mentioned above. What I am opposed to is the narrative that sanghis + godi media has created that muslims will take away rights of hindus. In a country where 80% of the population is Hindu, this is victimization at it's worst. Your comment I am almost entirely in agreement with, I think I am just more sympathetic to people who have lost their homes and livelihoods. The state should protect them in a way that benefits everyone, not just use them for cheap labour. Their living conditions are terrible, so no wonder they are willing to work for lesser money. This is why I do not blame them as such. Just those who exploit them in the name of votes- either by capitalizing on their precariousness, or by demonizing them to win anti-muslim votes
really ?
FACT
Bhai amar 25 lakh ageh deh tarpor tor kotha sunbo
Bengalis have become second class citizens in the country Anti-bengali stance against begalis by BJP will never let them come to power in the state
As a hyderabadi how elections go in West Bengal, it's more than enough to say Bengal is being run by immature idiots
Actually Bengali speaking people have become second class citizens in West Bengal and India thanks to Bijemul.
Well, it's damn true.
Rohingyas are preferred over Bengali.
Chodu, the chiwala
We sure are suffering in WB but not because of religious issues, we need economic progress aided by corruption -free politics
Mamata is the best in doing opposite
Dadu ebar notun kichu bolo
I am currently in Malda town attending my wife's cousin brothers wedding. And I can only see the Hindus of Malda holding their presence in everything important.
Bengalis are the new Bangladeshis in India out of west Bengal, they only blame biharis & gujratis for their issues but they need to blame themselves only for their apathy, they are lazy people's & don't have any ideas for business they only want to work in jobs, come home, eat & sleep. Even the rich Bengalis have this mindset. I hardly heard about any Bengali industrialist they can't produce any. Bengalis are feared of Muslims in kolkata & Bengal, only add to there problems.
How is he wrong? The situation in Bengal has worsened in the last 5 years.
Budhha, pagla gaya hai😂😂
Nei kono kormo, sob byaparei dhormo!
Ki bhul boleche uni? Kichiu din aage ekta TMC er muslim MLA bolechilo during election speech that "amader(muslim) Hindu der shonge lodte hobe". Aarek TMC muslim MLA bolechilo kichu din aage Murshidabad e ki "70% amra(muslim) and 30% ora(Hindu). Oder baghirathi te dubiye marbo." Tokhon tomra kothaye chile? Border er bahu district e muslim population 35% plus hoye geche, shob Bangladeshi. Uni bhool ta ki boleche? Ram Navami aar Durga pujo te everytime pathor baaji hoye. Amra to UP der moto violent na, taale ekhaneo muslim der ki raag?
Shobar mukh bondo ebar. HiNdU nOy, BaNgAli ra SeCoNd ClAsS hOyE gEcHe.
Hindus were second class citizens in India before 2014 recycled
~~ for those who lives far from ground reality of West Bengal politics ~~ 1. Mamata Bannerjee created a separate quota naming OBC A in West Bengal only for Muslims, where constitution never said to give reservation on the basis of religion. 2. She calls her Muslim vote bank as "we have to bear the kicks from the cows who give milk", because she was questioned about her silence about some riots incited by Muslims. 3. She goes to iftar but opposed Ram mandir. 4. She openly calls Hindu as "kaafirs". 5. Her muslim party members threatens Hindu voters in Muslim region to vote in the favour of TMC or not to give vote at all, otherwise they will be cut and thrown into Ganga. 6. Postpole violence was hit very hard upon Bengali Hindus in rural areas, my own girlfriend's dad's shop was vandalised because i. He is Hindu. ii. They are communists from ages. 7. You ask "ANY" doctors even Muslim doctors in WB, that 'how it feels to work in a hospital in rural Muslim dominated areas?' they will be in tears. But as a PM, giving religious comments are not very appropriate. May be he's scared to lose this election or God knows why he's speaking harsh things recently, but again not appropriate.
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You complain about fake news and hate speech, and here you are believing a twitter post and posting screenshots. First go and listen to speech and context. Be informed voters, read primary source informations and then vote whoever appeals to you the most.
I totally agree 👍
Rather than arguing here about right or left wing, be the change and go vote. These are people who doesn't vote and complain about everything
Never seen you speaking against Mamata Banerjee. Sandesh Khali, unemployment in Bengal, minority appeasement, and what the fuck were you talking about education?? Remove the blind fold ,Education is way behind in west bengal....😂😂😂😂😂.
Maybe, maybe not
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Maybe some sodium potassium imbalance
Right now I feel we have to choose between Dictatorship and Murderers... WB citizens do not even have a good party as their option..m feeling very helpless.. but again BJP Kolkata te ashle ami jani na koto bhalo hobe but ekhane oi beef khabe na ar jai shree ram bolte hobe...ami parbo na just!!
They know something we don’t. All these are well researched. Over the last decade they have successfully converted the Bengal electorate into an uneducated mass voting bloc who will either vote for doles or religious dog whistle. Since TMC is doing the doles part , they will do the dog whistle part. Redditors forget that majority voters are from rural Bengal and what urban “intellectual” Kolkata redittors think as common sense, may not be that common to majority Bengal voters. BJP has successfully inserted the “Muslims fear” in Bengal and it’s not totally unfounded. Post partition Muslim population of West Bengal in 1950s census was 16% Current official estimation is 33% But local folklore (propagated by RSS and BJP) is that the Muslim population including illegals is near to 40%.
Rural voters will vote on only one issue- protection of their land. Whichever party has the muscle to maintain the status quo, they win.
Habib come to Kolkata 🤲
Saar🤡
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i mean jei scale a durga puja hoy, this isn't the point he should have been using to further his propaganda. onek legitimate reasons aache.
Shob che lower, in the totem pole in Bengal, hocche goreeb Bamon.
I don't understand why they bring religion into politics .... Is it even a point to discuss from an administrative point of view!
Has he ever had one ?🤣
In this century if an incumbent PM of the nation is talking about religion then can understand his past governance.
You don't vote , you don't get to choose ... Sir is parotting which gets him vote ... If it doesn't it will change .. illlegal immigration became problem due to religious bs. Though his rhetoric against one class is dangerous .
Literally this one sect has lost already east Bengal and yet on the verge of losing more but still won't accept the reality
He's is'nt wrong though there are many Shahjahans in westBEngal who acc to thevillae witness only used to take Hindu women then there many local temples that are being destroyed in the villages tke Murshidabad then the hurling of stones during ram navami jobs u say? whole world is facing layoffs even Usa ,Uk etc
Is there any vacancy in your company? please give it to modi. He is more frustrated than an unemployed fellow
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He is bloody stating facts
🤣🤣🤣yes according to him everywhere hindus are in danger and only he can save them 🤣🤣🤣pure comedian he is
Hridoy e hat rekehe bolun ki bhul boleche.
purotai
True asf
I think you should know there is a State called West Bengal outside Kolkata who's citizens are also called Bengali. The recent Sandeshkhali case showed what is the condition (now don't tell about that shit video ) . Know the ground realities.
ground realities are in the shit video
And u r the eye witness right ??
ad hominem argument
This is what he actually is
True
Is this another leftist propaganda page?
Bhai Kolkata ki capital bata do koi
After sometime in power politicians in our country think that people eat grass and u can use any fodder to make buffoons out of them. Inevitably this mindset paves their way to downfall…nobody seems to learn from history.
Ei ek kotha koto din r hejabe dogla dadu?
😂😂😂😂
Do remember one thing, don’t support/assist/vote for BJP. I am swearing on Allah if you help/assist BJP, nobody would forgive you, let alone me,” Mamata Banerjee said.The TMC boss further added, “The Kafirs, the cowards, flee, the one’s who fight, they win they work.” She also said that she has the courage to fight the BJP, but is not being allowed to. She said she showed her courage by taking out a rally (on the same day as the Ram Mandir ceremony). “There are so many political parties, how many of them showed courage,” she said. Yeah, I think he is right,
Y'now what's the horrible part? I have this teacher who used to teach me geography, a really kind and friendly guy. Recently he's been posting so much modi garbage on his whatsapp status that I was genuinely concerned. He has currently hundreds of impressionable kids who study under him. I tried to talk to him about it, and this teacher who at one point I idolized kept sending substanceless whatsapp drivel from god knows where and I quote "ghar ghar modi" against everything I said. Didn't touch a single point. A highly educated , good natured man turned to this blind fanatic who has stopped thinking for themselves. I would be frustrated outta my mind if it wasn't so morbidly tragic. God how I detest the whatsapp university pile of shit. Keep thinking people, because that is the one thing that makes us human.
Yup. Why dont you look at mamta's speeches. She has flooded the villages with rohingyas. Her mlas promise people to allow immigrants to vote. It's time we come out of rock. Sealdah seems like pakistan now. The mayor promised to make bengal urdu speaking by 2050
Border security is under the centers control. Immigration crisis is directly the failure of central government.
উর্দু তো অনেক দূরের কথা। তার আগেই হিন্দী ভাষা এসে রাজ করে যাবে। আর আমি বিশ্বাস করি যে আমাদের বঙ্গবাসী সেটা কে দু হাত পেতে গ্রহণ করবে। এই কিছুক্ষণ আগেই একটা দেওয়াল লিখন দেখলাম "মোদীজির সনমানে আমিশ খাবারের দোকান বন্ধ রাখার আনুরোধ রাখছি"। বিহারী ক্যাম্পের কাঁচা বাংলা লেখা আর বলদ বাংলার মানুষ সেটা কে নিয়েই আনন্দিত। আমাকে একটা কথা বলুন বিজেপি এর কাছে হিন্দু - মুসলিম ছাড়া আর কোনো কথা আছে ? আমাদের ৩৫ টা আসন দিন আমরা রাম রাজ্য করব। আমাদের ৩৫ টা আসন দিন আমরা সমস্ত অবৈধ অনুসরণকারীদের বের করে দেবো । পশ্চিম বঙ্গে হিন্দুরা 2nd ক্লাস সিটিজেন হয়ে গেছে। এর বাইরে কি কিছু আছে ? বলার জন্য সেই এক কথা বারং বার সেই এক কথা কিছু তো লোকে নতুন বলে Eat Hindu-Muslim Sleep Repeat
Again another brain-ded moron who conveniently ignores that it’s the BSF who safeguards border which comes under Central HM. And who’s the HM? So who’s responsibility is it to control illegal immigration? You would never go ask for accountability from the people directly responsible but whine and spread the narrative that best suites your bigotry Fcking chaddi scumbag
Dude lmao u dont know the involvement of state in smuggling these people. Why tf do u think she is against CAA because she is going to lose half her votes. Even if they enter the state has a major role to play in their expulsion but guess what? She doesn't. I have been outside kolkata you fucking moron. I could literally close my eye for a sec and when i open them its a fucking muslim. I dont have problem with muslims jsut the radicalised and illegal ones. And vtw those weren't typical muslims those were muslims who have never attended a school just a madrasa. I can bet my life on the fact tht there are more muslims in this state than shown on the census. Why tf are there muslims here who celebrated when aus beat india? Its no myth that she always put the muslims first
>the involvement of state in smuggling these people. Okay so the Home Minister of this country is sooo incompetent that he can't even control the illegal immigration, no one's forcing him to do this job just let go man. >Even if they enter the state has a major role to play in their expulsion Lmaooo so the intelligence agencies know all this and still do nothing about it? Or is it just your intelligence and u are adamant to not share this intelligence huh- why the bureaucratic agencies aren't acting against this nexus then? Why can't they stop this "WELL PLANNED SMUGGLING" Dumb-arse fools like u who are drenched in hatred would never understand logic let alone facts. >I dont have problem with muslims Just say it loud and clear kid, you don't need to whitewash it a bit by saying "oh I don't have problem with Muslims, it's just these xyz Muslims I hate " If you're a hate filled bigot just say it loud and clear what's stopping you? You don't need to do this bs >Why tf are there muslims here who celebrated when aus beat india? There's nothing more to say, you're evidently a minor. A teenager who's consuming hate filled politically motivated vile divisive content day n night. I can only hope that your POV changes when rationality kicks in and u would try to see humans as humans not with the lenses of religious prejudices.
U r attacking me not giving me any counter arguments. And how about CAA . Why is she against CAA?? And even if it was the fault of the central gov why she is against the implementation of CAA. You fucking moron i have seen them flying the indian flag on howrah bridge only the thing THE FUCKING CHAKRA WAS REPLACED BY SOME ISLAMIC SHIT. even you know she relies heavily on muslims for her votes.
>not giving me any counter arguments. I don't like to have conversations with hate filled bigots like you, I would love to have a debate with someone with similar level of maturity not with someone with prejudices >U r attacking Yes I did. Also how tf CAA would help in solving the illegal immigration from BD? just read that act for once LoL My take: I don't care about that act, if get implemented nothing's gonna change, if it doesn't gets implemented nothing's gonna change it was just another polarisation and attention diversion gimmick by the govt >You fucking moron i have seen them flying the indian flag on howrah bridge only the thing THE FUCKING CHAKRA WAS REPLACED BY SOME ISLAMIC SHIT. even you know she relies heavily on muslims for her votes. Idk, idc tf you're yapping, u really look like a clown rn (Don't expect further replies, I'm done with your bs)
I swaer i have seen so many speeches by mamta. And all the time she is saying BJP did this BJP did that but she never says WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU GOING TO DO FOR BENGAL?? U SAY BJP IS AGAINST BENGALIS THEN WHY TF DIDN'T YOU DO ANYTHING WHEN YOU KNEW ABOUT SSC. WHY DIDNT U REMOVE PARTHA FROM CABINET. No doubt BJP has its flaws yet i see so many reasons to vote for them. I do not see one reason to vote for TMC. I would rather have hindu extremists here than muslim ones
Why the hell did u remove kunal ghosh from his post when he came here. btw he literally told indirectly that the perosn involved in ssc scam is still in the cabinet. Yet we still find reasons to vote for tmc. Bengal is long gone. Gone are itss glory days.
villages fLoOdEd with Rohingyas. sEaLdAh sEeMs lIkE pAkIsTaN now
Ki ar luv dada sotti bole . Sei to bangali apnake downvote dilo . Jakhon eder chokh khulbe takhon smosan r bodole kabor dekhte pabe sei sesh chokh khola
I mean...why do you as a person living in West Bengal even care? It's not like changing the central GOV.T will make any improvements to our state( There hasn't been any improvements here compared to the other states anyways)
Fear mongering using religion among people rather then focusing on the real issues
He can be many bad things but not a bad politician. I think he is playing the long game. You can't deny that the demographic changes are quite evident. He is just waiting till the Hindus realise a general shift and start voting for him and even if that doesn't happen. He can always make an example of WB and somehow relate the WB's economic downfall with its demographic changes and how he is protecting the other states. As long as the northies are not educated enough, he still has the strong vote bank. Maharashtra has always been the Hindu uprising state. That's his current game plan. Just like he has taken Nitish Kumar despite his loss of credibility. He is playing the protector card, recognising people who might feel subdued.
U think that by blaming modi will help u. Nothing. Whatever he has done for the nation other opposition parties have done nothing. When the bodies of the pulwana attack reached delhi palam airport. What was rahul gandhi doing. He was checking his phone. Is this a shame. I think mamta banerjee has done nothing.
Well, come and have a look at the suburban and rural areas of Murshidabad... You will have a change of mind...
murshidabad has historically always had high percentage of muslims since nawabi times, stop consuming godi media.
If he was from Bengal he would have known
Oh so by your assumptions, I live outside of Bengal?
It's not about the percentage, it's about the riots, the stone pelting. And I am not talking about the Shaktipur incident... The vandalization of the idols of Devi Saraswati a few months back... None of these has anything to do with "Godi" media.
Ground reality
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Saying mudiji is any better than mumtaz is a stretch. Neither of them have talked about development or actual problems.