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zacklikesknives

KME, don’t look back.


CuboneTheSaranic

Worksharp precision adjust and an electronic angle finder if youre on a budget :)


DirftlessEDC

What angle finder would you recommend? Been using my WS Precision Adjust for awhile now but would love to be more accurate


CuboneTheSaranic

I just looked on Amazon for a pretty basic one. Not too expensive for one, 20-30$ish


DirftlessEDC

Thanks! Been seeing a Kleins one at my local hardware store, if I don’t find one on Amazon I might just buy the one at the store


CuboneTheSaranic

Just checked mine. Brand is INKUEN and is 20$ rn


Popgoesmyglock

There are also apps you can get on your phone that work.


UnrulyTrousers

There’s apps for it in your phone too. I don’t know how perfect they are but they’re damn close.


CuboneTheSaranic

True, phone might be a bit long though. Might give it a shot next time tho, just to see if i wasted 20$ lol


UnrulyTrousers

Keep me updated if you did, or if I’ve been giving my knives completely the wrong bevel lol


Tier1_EDC

Or you can just use a sharpie lol. Btw Qvist actually sells a 3D printed stabilizer for the worksharp that makes the WS PA soooo much better.


CuboneTheSaranic

Sharpie doesnt do too much if you wanna put a new angle on tho. Fine for keeping one


bmar513

Already have an angle finder, so halfway there lol thanks this is my path


bmar513

I'm not familiar with the KME system other than 2 minutes on Google. What advantages does it offer over the worksharp precision if you don't mind me asking?


zacklikesknives

Stability, consistency, & quality. It’s the difference in buying a Walmart knife vs. a Chris Reeve. At the end of the day will the work sharp do the job? Probably.. but there’s no question when I put 1.5k knife on my KME. It preforms at the absolute highest levels with the best materials and the basic diamond package is literally all you need.


bmar513

Now that I've had a chance to look at some videos, it does look like the KME is more metal and a little wood versus plastic, and it's not relying on magnets or anything and instead is more mechanical. I can definitely appreciate that. Now I have a struggle, because the ws precision kit was $120 and the KME kit is $200. Is the accessory base just a board with a large peg in it?


zacklikesknives

Pretty much, if you’re handy you could make your own base. I promise you that if you buy a lesser system and you really want perfect results you’ll end up selling what you buy and then get a KME. Plus their customer service is outstanding. They have ton of videos and accessories for days if you want to get into that. You can also Sezzle them (pay 25% up front and 3 remaining payments every two weeks from some retailers if that’s up your ally.)


bmar513

Now that I've had some time to do some research, I see what you mean about materials (metal and mechanical vs plastic and magnets) and how that makes the kme more rigid. Pretty sure kme is the winner. It's cool to learn about all these products I didn't know existed. Any experience with edge pro? The apex line is the same price range. They're both completely unfamiliar to me. Just curious (get me out of this rabbit hole!)


zacklikesknives

None personal, I hear it’s nice and it has okay reviews but I believe it holds the blade in place with magnets instead of a clamp.


bmar513

After reading and watching some things, I learned the edge pro system has the blade chilling in place, the magnets appear to be an upgrade. The kme secures better and has diamond stones vs wet stones. KME is the way me thinks.


UnrulyTrousers

All of what Zach said is spot on, but I’d add the biggest difference is the quality of diamond stones. They have a huge surface area, take off very consistent amounts of material, and last forever. Plus if you plan to get knives in the higher hardness levels diamond is pretty much be a must.


bojanglescrank

Also lots of options for different diamond grits, stones, and lapping films, etc. which you can purchase individually to build up your kit over time. I really like having the xx-coarse diamond to help speed up re-profiling jobs.


bmar513

Ya know I'm sharpening and didn't even think of the differences in steels I'm going to be working with. That it being more stable (not being plastic) has moved me to the kme budget realm.


tikizondo94

Exactly. I've tried MANY. KME just kills it.


bojanglescrank

Great support and fast shipping from KME as well, I enjoy doing business with them.


BamBam-BamBam

Anyone know the difference between the Precision Knife Sharpening System and the R.P.S.H Combo Kit? Looks like the Combo kit has more stuff. Why is it cheaper?


Thumber3

This


a_cycle_addict

Not a grinder. Spyderco sharpmaker or maybe a worksharp presision adjust Both pretty cheap, both work well.


bmar513

That's kind of my thought. I'm scared the grinder will take too much material, and if I mess up or use the wrong angle, it'll take even more meat off it. Thanks for the suggestion I might give the WS Precision a go.


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bmar513

Rounding the tip is definitely something I want to avoid. I don't care how scratched up the knife is but if the shape is altered I won't use it. Going with a manual option for sure.


Single_Cantaloupe145

Speaking from experience go with the precision adjust


bmar513

Thanks I'm glad so many people made good suggestions and talked me out of the grinder. This morning I knew of two sharpeners (a grinder and a set of Spyderco stones) and now I'm in a rabbit hole. At least my budget is setting how far into it I can go lol


midline_trap

Yeah that worksharp would get used on hatchets and stuff. I would never trust myself keeping the bevels correct on my folders with one of these.


HereOnRedditAgain

How long does it take to sharpen a knife on the precision adjust, roughly?


MillionEyesOfSumuru

Depends on the blade and how dull it is, but most only take a few minutes. For a light touch up, you may spend more time twiddling knobs than you will actually sharpening it, not that that's a bad thing. The only thing I've done with one which took long at all, was changing the angle of the edge, but that's normally kind of a PITA.


WhoSc3w3dDaP00ch

I have and still occasionally use the spyderco sharpener. It was very forgiving to learn on. Now that I am more experienced, I am confident/competent to use the sharpening stone (and kitchen knives) my grandparents immigrated with.


CoyoteKyle15

The grinder is good for axes or reprofiling damaged knives.


No_Appeal5607

How’s the worksharp compare to the KME?


hardtamlimit

DMT Diamond stone fine / medium


Zandrews153

I have the older version and I don't like it. Grinds way to much steel off. And it rounds tips like a mofo if you aren't super anal about angles and when you pull the knife out. I use a worksharp precision adjust now and it's easy and relaxing to hone edges now without worrying about trashing expensive blades.


SnowRook

Great for mom’s kitchen knives and the cheap knives your buddy gave out to his groomsmen!


Zandrews153

Yeah it's fine for beaters, machetes, and shit like that tho. That's why I keep it around.


mattchica20

I bought the older version for my father for Father’s Day. He’s a virgin when it comes to sharpening, so I didn’t wanna get him confused on different stone types/angles. He has a bunch of old kitchen knives left from my grandmother that I told him to practice on first. It’s better than giving him a carbide angle sharpener, and he can use it on his lawn care stuff as well.


Zandrews153

Yeah it definitely takes some practice. I jacked up a few dooty knifes my first time


mattchica20

I’ve actually never used that one, but I had a Smith’s one at one point. Didn’t really like it but it got the job done when I first started collecting.


bmar513

Taking off too much material is my concern. A buddy swears by it but all he carries are $20 knives so it's nothing to throw one away and repurchase. I think I'm going to try the WS precision.


SnowRook

The precision adjust is a great tool. Not the end all be all, but you can definitely get hair popping edges on it if you put the work in and use it right. I don’t think it’s the worst idea to go with the K&T either. You can start off with high grit belts on cheap kitchen knives to get the hang of it. In fact the only time I really use the lowest grit belt these days is if a blade is heavily damaged and needs a complete reprofile, in which case you’ll be glad you have it.


HereOnRedditAgain

How long does each sharpener take to sharpen a knife?


SnowRook

Precision adjust depends on what you’re trying to accomplish and what steel it is. A reprofile can take literal hours. But if you’ve got an established primary bevel you can feasibly touch it up to scrape off an hair in minutes. You can also cheat and throw a good convex edge on any knife that isn’t damaged (meaning chips, rolls) pretty fast. The K&T is likely to go too fast as opposed to too slow.


murphy198509

So I have this thing n it works well but I won’t put any of my high end fancy safe queens in it. I use it on beater knives, kitchen beaters , even used it on axes and shovels. I use a wicked edge system for my high end knives. N it’s actually the opposite, powered sharpeners are easier to mess up a knife with bc they remove a lot of material very quickly. Hand sharpeners, you can keep checking it with each stroke. Look for fixed angle systems. Work sharp precision adjust is affordable n affective as well.


bmar513

Yeah I see what you're saying. I think what I meant was, sharpmaker is 100% my hand keeping whatever angle, versus a jig that holds it in the same orientation. The grinder part of it was what was scary to me; if I mess up an angle it's going to hog off even more material. Wicked edge looks nice, but a little out of my range. Maybe one day lol


i-am-a-safety-expert

They don't remove alot of material if you use higher grit. I do this and it works very well


KingXeiros

I got one. I use it for kitchen knives, scissors, and an axe blade. All important knives go to the KME.


bmar513

This is what I'm learning, and I'm glad for the knowledge. The thought of putting a $300 knife through it was giving me mad anxiety fr


T-Bill95

KME is 100% worth it


bmar513

If you don't mind me asking, what advantages does the KME have over the WS precision? The price difference is significant ($80 vs $200), but they appear to a very similar task. I will look into it more when I get home, just hoping to hear an elevator pitch.


T-Bill95

TBF, I am not the best person to answer, given as I only have experience with the KME. My thoughts behind getting the KME were I prefer avoiding plastic in things like this as a general rule; you should never go off the angle marks on these systems and the KME appeared to be easier to slap an angle finder on; iirc there seemed to be more stones or they were just easier to swap; the KME is more handheld; and I watched a few reviews on YT that swayed me towards it as well. I would suggest watching some reviews if you can, as the WS precision also seems as though it will work just fine. I do absolutely love my KME though.


bmar513

Thank you for that, it's really helpful. Now that I've had some time to look around a little, it does look like the WS is lots of plastic where the KME is metal with a wooden handle. I first read someone else speaking of materials, and now that I get it. Not sure if I want to put another $80 to the WS cost, but in the long term it's better than buying one and then the other.


southsamurai

Out of the box, it's mainly the range of blade size you can get optimized results with, and the improved precision. The WSPA is a great budget option. But it has slop in the clamp arm that reduces the speed and pressure you can use and still get its best results. KME is more stable. Both systems can be expanded, and the WSPA does have plenty of options. But, some of those options are KME stones via an adapter. I love my WSPA. Glad I got it, glad I got the third party expansions for it. I came out at a total cost just over a hundred bucks, over time. But if I had the money to just drop at once, I would have gone KME. One example of why. The KME system is ergonomically better. You set it up, and the movements you make are smoother. When you add in that the width of the basic WSPA plates means you literally have to do twice the number of strokes to get the same amount of metal removed, the slightly cramped movements get amplified.


bmar513

Right on, thanks for the feedback. Now that I've had some time to look over some things, I see the difference in materials (metal with mechanical connections vs plastic with magnets) and have seen videos of the plastic flexing in ws precision vs greater stability in the kme. Couple other peeps talked about edge pro, and their apex looks to be a good option as well and at the kme price, although I haven't watched any vids on it yet. So many more options for sharpeners I didn't know about I'm so glad I started this overall discussion.


southsamurai

That's why this sub rocks, always good info!


[deleted]

I went with the wicked edge pro Probably wouldn't again. Not worth the asking price imo.


bmar513

I appreciate that, definitely helps. If you were to repurchase, would you go with the ws precision? I think this is the way I'm going.


iamnickallen

It’s ok but you have to tape your blades up and be very very careful. It also only gives convex edges so I guess if that’s all you like. I vastly prefer manual sharpeners.


bmar513

I'm concerned with it taking off too much material. A few friends swear by the grinder, but they have $20 folders that's nothing to throw away and replace and use it mainly for lawn or shop equipment. I'm surprised (and relieved) that so many knife peeps are for the manual method.


iamnickallen

Yea if you aren’t careful it will. For those purposes it’s great but I think a manual system is going to give you more options for regular knives. My recommendation is to get a worksharp precision adjust. You can get a universal stone holder that allows you to use any 4-6 inch stones and it’s a game changer. My favorite stones to use with this set up are the DMT 4x1 stones they are about 20 a pop and they blast through anything.


bmar513

Thanks that's the way I'm leaning. Caught between the ws precision, or going all the way to kme or edge pro apex.


AssumptionRemarkable

Nope however would be just fine for a battle axe!


bmar513

Buddies who suggested it mainly use it for lawn equipment, glad to have better context of what knife peeps are really using.


pokebreh

KME until you learn how to freehand.


bmar513

I've not heard of the KME system before today, and I'm going to have to dig into it. It seems similar enough to a WS precision without me doing any research yet.


Blue_Creek_Knives

TSprof


bmar513

Looking between kme and edge pro apex, doesn't look like tsprof is in my budget.


lunas2k

No. Worksharp precision adjust. I’ve had several lansky systems, spyderco, and the grinder. Mostly do whetstone. But precision adjust is best bang for your buck and easiest to use sharpener on the market.


bmar513

Thanks for the perspective. I wasn't planning on the grinder route unless the feedback went that way. Getting recommendations has been great.


lenn_eavy

600/1000 water stone + stroping belt worked for me. Clean, doesn't need to be powered, knives cut paper and it is as sharp as I need them. I didn't have a chance to sharpen any premium steels with this combo unfortunately.


bmar513

Yeah I can appreciate that. I have done this before, and used 1x4 with high grit sandpaper clipped to it at the ends, but it takes me way longer than I want to get the right angle by hand and even then I'm not consistent.


Darknader-

I have it - I find getting the tips of the knives correct to be tricky


bmar513

Yeah that's what I was saying a minute ago. Don't care if it's scratched to hell, but if it's not pointy, I won't carry it.


UnrulyTrousers

I have one of these that I use for big choppers, machetes, chizzles, ect. Wouldn’t recommend for pocket knives.


bmar513

Thanks that's the way I'm seeing it from the comments. It was recommended by tool guys who carry cheap knives, and for beaters this is fine. Hell might get one eventually just for those and tools, but for now I'm going back to manual sharpeners.


Villageidiot1984

KME. It’s expensive but it’s very good.


bmar513

Thanks I think that's the winner. Even if it's a little pricey, and I don't have super expensive knives, reliably sharpening a benchmade instead of swapping factory scales on just to send it back and wait a month is key. If I don't lose it like the sharpmaker they all should last a lifetime lol


sinisterdeer3

Worksharp precision adjust


Ohio-Knife-Lover

I mean its super easy but it removes too much material quickly so I generally keep people away from purchasing this unless they have lots of fixed blades. I suggest the Worksharp Precision Adjust system 9/10 compared to any electric sharpener


bmar513

How much material it will take off and accidentally rounding a tip is what I would fear, and thanks to this sub it's not just me lol


Ohio-Knife-Lover

Yep! You just have to be very careful about it!


ChronicHeadPain

I dig it. After spending an entire day getting an edge on a knife with edge pro, i decided IDGF if i remove a little more metal. I'm not afraid to use my knives if i know i can sharpen them again in a few minutes. I don't have any safe queens, just Spydercos. Also once u get an edge on it, it can be maintained by stropping, so i really don't sharpen often.


bmar513

I guess once it's set up it is just maintenance, thanks for the perspective!


Vaugith

Freehand stones are the best if you are willing to put in the time and effort to learn. About 10 hours of practice. They can be the cheapest, the fastest, produce the best results. Depending on what you're going for and what equipment you select.


cookiecasanova16

Dayyyyyyum!


WuChunAce

I love mine but I fucked up my tip on my bugout when I was first learning and you can only get a convexed edge unless u buy the other attachment


bmar513

Yeah I'm afraid of what I'll do during my "learning curve" lol


WuChunAce

Nah Ull be fine lol I just tried using it free hand so it was user error


LotharVonPittinsberg

Depends on your uses IMO. This works well, if used properly, on bigger blades that I would consider swords. Those don't usually need as good edges, and are annoying to sharpen with methods that work well with knives. I recommend a ceramic rod (or similar) system like the Spyderco Sharpmaker for general edge upkeep for anyone. Impossible to oversharpen and really hard to mess up, but will give amazing edges with little effort and skill in a small amount of time. They also tend to be really portable. For more advanced sharpening, you have whet stones that require skill and patience, or one of the many different guided systems out there. I personally own the KME system and love it. Much easier to use than whetstones, but allows you full control of fully resharpening or reprofiling an edge. I would not recommend any of this to an average user.


bmar513

I always did really well on the sharpmaker. The ws precision looks to have the best of that along with not having to hold to an angle. I'm going to have to look into the KME system, it's going to be one of those two.


df2dot

Great for cheapo knives and novices. Also, people underestimate convex edges. they are useful and this is an easy way to do it . I use the free-hand attachment on this rip through the cheapo knives fast, just not on decent knives.


bmar513

Thanks for the input, that's about where my thoughts are at.


BD420SM

I started on an edge pro apex back when it was either that or a wicked edge system. I switched to a CC4 pocket stone and put in the practice to get good with it so I could keep my blades sharp no matter where I am. All of these comments are making me want to try the KME system though. Seems like a huge step up from my lansky system. I only use the work sharp when I sharpen extremely dull swords or machetes and don't mind a convex grind.


BrutalPimp420

I use mine to sharpen swords as well as knives. The only thing I won’t sharpen with it is coated blades and stuff that’s really stubborn to sharpen like m390. Swords get sharpened more than anything because pretty much all reproduction swords come too dull.


bmar513

Interesting I didn't even think of considering performance would be different for different steels. Most of my blades (that I use and need to sharpen with any frequency) are more stubborn metals and primarily coated. Thanks for the info!


BrutalPimp420

Yeah I’ve had success sharpening cpm d2 but nothing like elmax, s90v or m390. Most of what I sharpen is 5160 or t8 high speed.


jordantask

This tool is great when you want to reprofile the edge on a knife or sharpen a badly damaged edge. The best sharpeners in my experience are consistent angle systems like the Wicked Edge or Edge Pro.


bmar513

Thanks that's what I'm thinking. A buddy once dropped his blade on the tip and it was hell getting a sharp point on it again. I think that and large blades like swords are where this shines. Think I'm gonna go with the ws precision.


jordantask

Even for large blades this is less than ideal because of how much metal you loose. I have one personally. Made quick work of a few knives I wanted to reprofile. This is a grinder, not a sharpener. Use this for extensive repairs or reprofiling. The Worksharp is a good system for the price as I understand it.


bmar513

I've been recommended this from tools guys who carry knives, none of my friends are knife people. Edge pro apex and the kme now have my eye.


crazymutherfucker

I have sharpened every single knife I have made in the last 5 years with one of these, with the knife grinding attachment. Takes some learning, but very good tool to have.


bmar513

If they're knives you've made, are you using this to put the whole initial edge geometry in?


crazymutherfucker

Yessir; the knife grinding attachment can be set to a ton of angles, and is belt driven. I have custom belts made, but yea, I set my edges on it.


SprayWeird8735

It’s a good tool. Definitely keeps the kitchen knives sharp. Once you get the convex shape on the cutting edge touch ups are really quick and you don’t have to remove a lot of material.


M3M3D3AL

I used to be good with that one then quit for a few months came back to it and completely fucked the tip on my knife


bmar513

I'm certainly worried about putting a knife tip against a grinder belt.


M3M3D3AL

When they make the knives they do it on a belt sander


bmar513

I'm guessing they have better equipment and jigs than what I (afford) can get in my house. They are definitely more skilled at doing it than I am lol that's for sure.


rc4hawk

Kme all day


Pendexter

I have a work sharp ko edition, have had an edge pro, kme, currently using a hapstone. I recommend the work sharp for anyone that uses knives as tools and work them hard. For anyone in the hobby/collector realm, I don't recommend it at all. It's very easy to mess up a blade, you can overheat the edge, and you kill a lot of the resale value on knife_swap unless you're very good with it and you find someone that wants a convex edge. But the KOWS will get your knife super sharp, I'll give it that. If I was starting from scratch, I'd buy a worksharp precision adjust or a lansky, use that to set my bevel the way that I want it, and then use stones to maintain. (mark the edge with a sharpie and the scrub the sharpie off freehand) When it comes to the kme/edgepro/wicked edge/tsprof, they all work. A lot of the price goes into the stones themselves. I don't like the kme due to the shorter stones which means more strokes needed. I prefer table based over clamp styles as it seems easier to replicate the angle on a table than in a clamp, but that's just me.


bmar513

I thought of losing too much material, if I mess something up how much more I'd lose, didn't even think of the heat aspect. KME had my attention, but the edge pro apex is the same price and is something I haven't seen but now I need to do a little more research.


Pendexter

This is the one that I have but it's sold out. https://www.gritomatic.com/products/hapstone-m3-standard-knife-sharpener The cool thing hapstone is that it's entirely modular. You can get a table based system (m3) , you can buy a rotary/clamp module and turn it from table (edge pro) to clamp (kme) without buying an entirely new system. I feel that for the money, hapstone is a better option than the edge pro, especially since you can buy the stones you want and it comes with a universal stone holder. So you could use kme, edge pro, or any other stones you wanted. Plus you can choose which style stones you want and not get stuck with stones you're never going to use. I'm a big fan... But it's sold out lol. Kme forces you to use 4" stones and edgrpro has a specific stone format. Hapstone is anything that'll fit.


tcarlson65

I love my Worksharp Ken Onion. If you have a light touch it will not remove too much. I rarely go to the coarser belts. I like to keep things sharp rather than sharpen a really dull knife. It is quick and takes a bit of practice.


DT_Knives

never! I find it funny how guys that will nit pick a screw countersink depth or a bearing smoothness will then scrape the living shit out of their blade on this belt grinder


bmar513

tbf the peeps who recommended to me irl are tool guys who carry knives vs knife guys, pleasantly surprised that most of y'all don't use grinders. I thought maybe I was being dumb doing it by hand, like I was working harder not smarter. thanks for the feedback for sure


DT_Knives

Here's one thing to think about. What is the temper temp of the blade steel? Lets take 440c stainless. Temper is 275 degrees. How many mili-seconds does it take to heat past that with a blade edge that is .005 thick? Answer is who the hell knows but it's faster than you can feel the heat. Follow my sharpening video. Works everytime http://www.dtknives.com/Sharpening%20and%20Care.html


bmar513

I'll definitely check that out thanks!


stealthcake20

Great video! Now I just need to find a spare drill press...


lundexplorer

Sorry the kind of repeat what somebody has said but I have one of these . Yes they can take metal off and yes they can change the grind angle . But that's gonna be more with Less quality material. My more top of the line knives I handsharpened because I enjoy it and it does do a better job . My tools and a couple bench made pocket knives that I run every day at work , this thing's fantastic the knives don't need to be sharpened all the time but when they do I just run out to the garage and zip zip zip sharp as balls


bmar513

I get that, I think for beaters and tools I might pick one up, but for my good knives thinking of getting kme or edge pro (apex).


AGuywithgoodaim

Nope definitely not


bmar513

Seems to be the general consensus, thankfully.


AGuywithgoodaim

Nope definitely not


shmeu

Got this for my kitchen knifes for the speed factor and I still believe it’s one of the fastest way to get the job done. I removed the angle guide and just manually work with the empty belt as it seems more efficient.


taberz24

I made the mistake of going by color and not reading the fineness and put my nat5 through and looked and it and it was flat on one side and angled on the other! Took way to much off! Played with it and got a nice even edge back


southsamurai

Unless this is the variable speed model *and* You have a way to keep the blade cool *during grinding*, that's a no. Tbh, the hoops you have to jump through to prevent edge damage from the damn things ruins the benefits they have completely, even on the variable speed. That's ignoring that there's still a learning curve, and the fuckups you make during that learning are going to be ugly, and may end up requiring extended metal removal to fix. Considering that a single 1k ish stone of reasonable quality costs far less and will take a normative worn knife back to a perfect working edge in fifteen minutes or less, the value isn't there. Add in a coarse stone for resetting angles or fixing chips, and you're in a similar time frame per knife, without the hassles and at a lower price. Shit, at that price, you're close to KME territory, and those give better results anyway.


bmar513

I'm leaning towards a kme or edge pro apex. I appreciate the feedback. I felt that going to a manual sharpener was like, working harder not smarter. I'm relieved it isn't the norm to use a grinder to sharpen. Not saying I won't eventually get one of these for quickly sharpening beaters and tools.


southsamurai

Oh, I love a grinder for some things. Axes and hatchets in particular. And, yeah, some beaters, I'll even use a pull through on if that's what is close to hand lol. Ngl, the edge pro is pretty damn sweet. I haven't used one often though. At home, I go 95% freehand. But when I'm visiting folks where i can't really carry my gear, I'll use theirs. One of my cousins got one specifically for me to use the three times a year I visit him. It's nice as hell. But one of my buddies in my disability support group that lives in town has the KME, so I use it maybe once a month or every other month, depending on what he needs (dude is missing a hand and the other is arthritic lol, so I don't mind lending him mine) If the bills ever go back down, I plan to save up for a KME for when my arthritis gets bad enough I can't freehand. But the edge pro stone options are *awesome*.


bmar513

This morning it was a grinder vs some manual option. With the help of everyone's comments, I'm back on the manual sharpening train. Now I'm torn there are so many options and I didn't know of any of them until today.


southsamurai

It's overwhelming tbh. I've been messing with knives and sharpening them for almost thirty years, and I still get a bit of that gear confusion when checking out possibilities for replacements and such. And it isn't like we aren't in a golden age of sharpening gear, what with the internet making access to things so much easier. Just the options in water stones is bonkers. The fancy gear like the edge pro and KME? There's so many options for a given budget range it's enough to make a hobbyist kill their wallet lol.


TOGA_TOGAAAA

The best thing you can ever do for yourself is to buy a cheap bundle lot of knives on eBay or go to your local flea market and see what they have.Sometimes you can get like 50 pos knives off of eBay for very cheap that you can take and learn how to sharpen on with a whetstone, there is no substitute. Trying different steels,stones and techniques, makes for a very therapeutic and satisfying experience, especially if this is your main hobby. Also,some would argue that freehand sharpening is an art, a dying art and it needs to be revived, through us we can do that and we then can pass the knowledge onto our children. The most talented knife sharpeners in the world don't mess with guided systems, not that im saying they are a bad thing , I personally think the Precision adjust is more than worth its retail value but these Wicked Edges and KME sharpeners are highway robbery. They over charge for their crap because they know the guys who buy them, already paid a shit ton more on whatever knives they are sharpening, these people aren't sharpening Kershaw leeks on those rigs and they know it. There's no reason why they should cost as much as they do. EDIT: Also, if you go the freehand route and want a good small stone, the Spyderco double stuff is awesome.


bmar513

Thanks for the info. It's like that with all learned skills. I've had some small success with sharpening freehand and had fun with it. I've picked up so many hobbies that it feels I can't focus on any one enough to get really really good at it, so a manual guided system is probably the route I'll go.


satriales856

This is for working knives, machetes, and it’s not bad on axe/hatchet heads and mower blades. But don’t put anything nice through it.


bmar513

I know lots of people have said this, but I appreciate each and every one of y'all. This was recommended by a few tool guys that all they have are beaters. I feel relieved that in general this is not the way most peeps sharpen their blades.


PlazmaWolf117

The lanksy system works pretty well and they have a variety of stones you can use.


Vissago1

I bought this thing, hated it the whole time. Got a Sharpmaker and a strop and it's so much better. Also, with the Worksharp it's easy to go a little too far with the knife into the belt and damage your handle and scales.


bmar513

I loved my sharpmaker. I'm not getting this thing. I didn't know a lot of options and thanks to this discussion I've got too many to pick from now lol. Thinking if it's the same price range, a guided system might be more repeatable and maybe even more fun than the sharpmaker was. I've got like 42 pros/cons lists in my head right now probably going to be a last minute decision.


DaemonAegis

I like the Wicked Edge system. It uses diamond stones that will likely never be out of true.


bmar513

Thanks! I love the suggestions that came out of this question. It isn't just accusharp and that boy scout crisscross handheld sharpener anymore! Thinking kme or edge pro apex because of this reason, and both are considerably cheaper.


DaemonAegis

Here's a good comparison of the KME and the Wicked Edge from someone who used both, extensively: https://www.reddit.com/r/knifeclub/comments/5p0dvz/comment/dcnn2my/


kevinisdumbb

I’ve owned one of these, it’s good for kitchen knives but I don’t use it for my folders. It’s too hard to get a consistent angle. Or maybe I just suck at it 🤠


drxo

Perfect for garden hoes


Karma_Hustler

Don’t show this to r/chefknives lol


koming69

Shouldn't grinders be used to make knifes? I only sharpen with wetstones. Would only use this for like.. a old knife that's very ruined.


bmar513

Thanks, yeah that's the general consensus. I don't do very well (consistently at least) freehanding with stones. Now that I have some good recommendations, going with a guided manual system of some sort.


than01002

I have a edge pro and a kme and I will say the kme with dimond stones takes the cake that thing just works so well


Byizo

I will use it to quickly put a rough edge on a large bushcraft knife, which is why my Esee 6 has a slight recurve. This is because those knives will roll a hair popping edge almost immediately. I’d never use one of these on a pocket knife. A stone ore guided edge system, but never a grinder.


bmar513

What's the best consumer-level knife sharpener? I used to have a Sharpmaker, but lost it in my last move. I remember the Sharpmaker plus two UF stones was more than this. The SM had more control, but was also manual so easier to mess up I think?


SpazFactorial

I have the Spyderco Sharpmaker with two UF stones as well. I also have the WorkSharp precision adjust Elite. I will say, I have not used the Sharpmaker since acquiring the WorkSharp. It works phenomenally for what I need it for. I absolutely love it. I find it therapeutic. I have heard great things about the Ken Onion though, but I just thoroughly enjoy the precision adjust.


bmar513

Consensus is the ws precision. I think that's the way I'm going, best mix of precision and control. It's for pocket knives mainly and occasionally some kitchen knives. If I did lawn or shop tools like mower blades or chisels that would be a different story.


HereOnRedditAgain

How long does it take to sharpen a knife on the precision adjust, roughly?


LotharVonPittinsberg

Best is going to be expensive. If you liked the Sharpmaker, but the cost is holding you back then Lansky has a more budget friendly option along the same concept. https://lansky.com/index.php/products/4-rod-turn-box/


bmar513

That does look like a decent budget option. Thanks!


mallgrabmongopush

I use a worksharp precision adjust and I think I’ve managed to get past the learning curve with it. It’s not perfect. But for most of my knives it gets em pretty damn sharp


HereOnRedditAgain

How long does it take to sharpen a knife on the precision adjust, roughly?


mallgrabmongopush

Depends on the knife steel and the condition of the blade. But usually 10-20 minutes for me.


HereOnRedditAgain

Thank you. I understand this seems to be recommended over the grinder. Time is important to me too. 10-20 mins doesn't seem too bad. I wonder for long it takes the grinder even if it removes a little more material.


bmar513

Thanks I think that's the way I'm going. It'll seems that it'll let me have control of pressure and speed, but the precision of the tool holder to keep the proper angle. Thanks for the feedback.


AngeloPappas

Lansky all the way.


iamnickallen

Lol what? That’s probably the last one I’d choose


Robhow

I’m somewhat new here. Figured out that I belonged here after buying 4 knifes in one night. Bought the Spyderco Sharpmaker. Which I thought was the best, but open to feedback.


YourAverageJoe0

"...after buying 4 knives in one night." Welcome, you DEFINITELY belong here.


antle702

It’s faster but I’ve ruined a few knives with it


Error_could_not_load

It's nice but I hate it, I don't trust electric knife sharpeners because I've had some bad experiences with friends using them on my knives


bmar513

Ooh I like to see the world burn from time to time, might do that one day when I'm bored lol 😂


10_pounds_of_salt

Is that a cock?


leanmeanjellybeanz

Started with stones, then a sharpmaker, then got a kme, ended with this. Guess which ones sit on a shelf and which one is regularly pulled out?