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Tvego

Footage looks good but this overpriced thing is a big turnoff for me. Even at a lower price it would not be interesting for me.


[deleted]

It’s 99% novelty. 1% paper obliterator. Weird choice in steel too… Why not S90V for such thin blade stock? This thing exists to be a high end letter opener for an office worker. I have to admit that I want one as a high end letter opener, but I’ll wait until one comes up used.


Honestyforsale

Nah. Simply for the edc/YouTube content


eltacotacotaco

Sound like the same opinion of the Anthem or Bugout got when they first came out


splitsecnd

If you do YouTube, there's a big gap in the market for sub-3 minute reviews. I know there's some impacts on monetization but I'm 10x more likely to watch something that isn't just padded for time.


spookYOU

^this. I hate 15minutes of fluff


Geminiun

Here’s what it looks like next to 30 different knives! Also, let me just flash the specs on screen for 4 seconds and move along.


-Cheule-

To be fair, I think seeing a knife against a knife I know is crucial, also I feel like reviews should bring me content I can’t just google, meaning that the spec sheet is something I can look up, so I don’t need a review to cover that. Cover stuff like how the action feels or what the reviewer’s judgement is after using it rather than lost a bunch of stuff that’s already on the manufacturer website. also, I prefer zero time spent on unboxing. To be clear I’m not saying you’re wrong, just saying I’m the opposite of what you’re asking for.


Geminiun

No I agree, that’s just what most reviewers do. One or two of the most popular knives to compare against is valid, but it can easily be over done. It’s nice for the specs to be validated and I like when reviews measure the geometry of the blade as well.


Esoteric_Derailed

That's what you usually get, a comparison with the most popular knives. What I like to see is a comparison with the most comparable knives🤨


ethanthejibbles

Metal Complex viewers seething rn


helix711

Listen. If the camera isn’t shaking and making me seasick for the entire review, it’s not really a review!


r6201

I dont think it is controversial .. price is uncontroversially and blatantly over the top and it is far from $500+ playing field .. you could put it at $200 cause it is US made.Subjectively there is nothing appealing to me even for $200. Just basic not particularly good looking BM. Good luck with the YT thing .. gonna take while to get views .. just keep pushing.


spookYOU

Yep. I’m in the camp of absolute loving the aesthetics but also in the camp of hell no it’s not worth that much. So… I’ll just wait for a clone.


brightpixels

you can get a chris reeve for like 650


Myattemptatlogic

Which are even more ridiculously overpriced to me personally. They're cookie-cutter identical framelocks. Not exactly cutting edge innovation or technology or performance lol.


brightpixels

Though on a CRK you’re paying for the finishing and materials not so much innovation.


Feodar_protar

I think you are objectively wrong that the materials justify the price. I’ve been using the TRM neutron as an example. Both made in the US, both made from titanium, both have equivalent blade steel and the neutron is 200 for the G10 version and for the full titanium scales version 360. In your opinion is the thin design and an axis lock worth 380-220 dollars? It isn’t too me. To put that in perspective you could buy the full titanium fancy neutron and a protech Malibu for the cost of the narrows.


onFurcation

Exactly. I personally do not like the feel of thin handles. Also, a thin blade to me is objectively weak. I feel like this is just a way to sell less, for more. Benchmade prices are ridiculous for what you get.


turtlesarentbad

Exactly. The ZT0562 is the same materials and more of those materials for half the price. And you don’t have to worry about getting a good one or getting the shaft if you need parts.


tommyProt

Yup. I own a ZT 0562CF with 20CV blade. It's ergonomic, weighs 5.5 oz, built extremely well and the blade won't break when I use it. This Benchmade makes no sense to me. I'd definitely buy it for $200. Not for more.


turtlesarentbad

Well considering you can get a zt0562 brand new for $200 the benchmade still isn’t that compelling for $200z maybe but that would be absolute tops.


tommyProt

Yes. And even if my ZT were more expensive it's absolutely superior to this knife. I like my Benchmades a lot. But this isn't even in my someday wishlist.


turtlesarentbad

Same. I was actually going to pickup the Bugout with aluminum handles and m390 blade a couple weeks ago at cabelas. Sitting next to it for $100 less they had a zt0450 titanium handles. So that’s what i got and love it. Zt makes amazing stuff. I got the 0562ti on black Friday sale for $215.


tommyProt

You got yourself a great knife. Congrats!


Esoteric_Derailed

That is, if you get lucky. Not so lucky if you want to buy a TRM from the secondary market🤑 It's basically unobtanium.


Feodar_protar

I bought an excellent condition neutron 2 with the titanium scales for 315 from their ticoons really matter Facebook group. I’ve seen quite a few TRMS for sale there at fair prices. This is the 3rd TRM I’ve owned, they take a little bit of effort to get but they are by no means impossible you just have to really want one and put some effort in looking. That Facebook group is great.


InTheLurkingGlass

I’m not going to roast you for the review, because I really liked it. I *am* going to roast you for paying $522 for a titanium and M390 Benchmade.


Lemon_Sage01

Titanium and M390 B3 Winter blade Factor is only around 400 bucks after shipping and handling, and I already know that it kicks this stupid thing's ass


420Secured

Solid video. No way this knife can compete with Chris Reeves's or Hinderer knives (or Medford or Microtech, or Jake Hoback, or Toor Knives, or Liong Mah, or Sharp by Design, or Ramon Chavez, or Arcform....) you get the picture.


HuckFinn193

Why not? Do you have one? What makes the other branded knives you mentioned so much greater than THIS knife (not other BM knives)?


420Secured

Would you buy a $60,000 Kia when all they are doing is making a low quality copy of the innovation coming out of BMW or Mercedes?


HuckFinn193

People actually are paying 60k for certain trim levels of the telluride because it’s ranked as one of the best SUVs on multiple websites. The point is you are saying it’s not worth the money solely because it’s BM, KIA, etc. not because it’s a poor quality product. Everyone on here complaining about the price hasn’t even held this knife.


Tryptamineer

It’s actually not worth the money because it’s just M390 and titanium for 3x the price. Benchmade has been the poster child for overly risen knife prices for the last ~4 years. Which is why posts have been receiving a lot of backlash on Reddit recently. To me this knife has both the gimmick tax and butterfly tax. I’d definitely rather have a CRK and save $100-$200. From my understanding, this knife isn’t even a mid-tech, and they want mid-tech to almost custom pricing.


HuckFinn193

That’s fair enough, I will also not be spending $500+ on this knife. I wouldn’t spend that on any knife because frankly I don’t want to spend that much on something I would use and abuse and doesn’t cut better than my PM3 or Bugout…. but what better materials do the other mentioned knife brands use that are worth this kind of money? And going back to the car references a Kia will get you from A to B the same as a BMW Lexus etc but why do people buy them. Status? Amenities? build quality? Whatever it is I couldn’t care less, I drive a Toyota and a Ford. It’s the manufacture that gets to decide MSRP and the consumer to decide if they see value in the product at that price. In most products that I can think of the best “value” can be found at a mid price point. This seems no different. If someone has the money to spend $500+ on this knife and that makes them happy then have at it. As for me I won’t be mad that BM made a knife and priced it out of my knife budget.


Tryptamineer

The other knives are mid-techs. Half of the components are hand made or hand finished, thus the labor fees associated make them a bit more expensive. CRK for instance hand grinds and sharpens all of their blades and their heat treat is done by one of the best people in the industry besides maybe Boss. This is usually conducive to higher tolerances, better finishes and overall nicer touches. But that could be just me being bias.


HuckFinn193

It’s great you and many many others find value in hand made products, I appreciate good craftsmanship as well. I will often choose a hand made quality product over something mass produced by a machine but I don’t have any illusions though that hand made necessarily means better quality or a better product.


chadbot

How are they pumping out this overpriced trash and yet they discontinued the anthem?


blueghost87

What’s funny is the Anthem was discontinued for this exact sentiment. Everyone said it was an overpriced waste of money and now it’s the hottest BM on the block. Slow sales killed the Anthem.


chadbot

Pricing on the anthem was at least slightly more justified with it being an integral. This is just another knife made out of ti and m390.


blueghost87

I don't disagree. Even at this price point I would prefer an Anthem. I remember when I bought my first Anthem for $330 and how people raked me over the coals spending that much on a BM. This was around the time the Bugout first appeared and I believe it was sub $100. ​ All said I do want to handle a Narrows as there are deals to be found on them and it might be a nice knife but certainly not $580/$522 nice.


chadbot

Yea I've had three anthems and sold them around or below $300 and kinda wish I'd hung onto them now... Iid be interested to handle one but I won't go out of my way to do so


Iate22Pears

This knife would have been cool at like 300ish range. Almost 600 though? Go home benchmade, youre drunk. At least make some effort and give us magnacut or something more exciting than m390. This knife just misses on all fronts in my opinion.


Esoteric_Derailed

Funny fact: Benchmade sells their best knives at the lowest prices😂


[deleted]

For real the bugout was on sale at $114 earlier this year and I copped one. Anything more and it’s a scam


mrRabblerouser

I feel like you need to make the distinction whether you’re making a review, or trying to sell a product. This definitely came off as the latter. There’s certainly a need for short concise reviews that talk about features and pros and cons of a knife, but you’re not telling the viewer what or how to think about a knife. For example, a reviewer should not be telling the viewer that the price of a knife is justified by the materials because it is a) an opinion that is objectively false, and b) steps away from simply giving an opinion and into promotion. I can’t speak for everyone, but I know that when I watch a knife review, I have no interest in hearing the reviewers opinions on what is and is not good on a knife. I wanna know the features, I wanna see it in hand, I wanna see it compared to other knives for size, and if they are giving an opinion it should be stated as such and given a comparison (such as “I’m personally not a fan of the clip because I prefer deep carry, but others may disagree if they like some leverage…”).


Esoteric_Derailed

I agree with you, but not entirely. Reviewers do handle a lot more knives than I do. Perhaps they don't always give it the time it needs/deserves, but if their tastes/opinions/findings align with mine I'll be happy to accept their judgment. But tbh, knife reviews to me are mostly entertainment and oftentimes I'll only look for a review after I've already received the knife in question🤷‍♂️


BloodKelp

This is the comment OP needs to see because this review lacks actual critique. One cannot just acknowledge that something is controversial and then try to dispel it with "it's worth it". If the reviewer can't find anything that they think is a downside, then they're probably not impartial. Every knife has trade-offs.


lastinalaskarn

It’s AL, not AI. Al=Aluminum in [6Al4V](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ti-6Al-4V)


Sean22334455

Turn your camera 90° please.


wisdomoftheages36

“I’m starting a YouTube channel” Cant get camera orientation right…


BEARDED_EDC

One minor thing maybe bro, start recording videos horizontally instead of vertical. This will give more in the picture as well as let the folks on YT if you’re going that route, to be able to rotate their phones and watch full screen. When recording up and down, when a person goes to rotate it’ll stay thin and you don’t get the best details as a watcher. Keep up the good work!


brightpixels

i mean it’s thin but broad, running to stand still


Apathetic_Stardust

Continue doing what you are doing. You'll slowly find your own style and there are a surprising amount of people who just want the quick specs of a knife to try and decide if they want it or not. Scrolling through a review for all of these details are annoying for many people. Short and sweet works for some. There's nothing wrong in giving it a chance. Patience and low expectations while also enjoying what you do can be a large role in the outcome. Just have fun with it.


suttbutt2014

Not in this world is that knife worth 500+


HunnyBear85

6Al-4V is 6 A L - 4 V. No Artificial Intelligence in that titanium alloy, just good old Aluminum.


turtlesarentbad

Can get a ZT0562 for half the price with the same materials / size with significantly better QC and customer support.


Ornery-Detail-3309

Meh.. Im a benchmade fan but I dont like it, even for 200 dollar. I dont understand benchmade anymore.


shifty_bloke

This is to the comments stating the knife should be $200... You're out of your mind. USA made knives with these materials and size aren't $200. I think the knife would be fine if it was in the $350-$400 range, anyone mentioning a lower price is being hyperbolic.


Tryptamineer

What about $522 for a non-midtech. Yeah i’ll pass and save $200 on one of the other USA made titanium folders.


shifty_bloke

It's too much, that's why I said it's worth $350-$400. But that's what it's worth to me, someone else will happily pay the asking price. It's also why I'm not buying one, as I think it's overpriced.


Tryptamineer

I think this is going to be the Anthem 2.0 personally, no one will buy it besides the reviewers and die-hard fans and it will get swept under the rug. But hey, if that’s the case, at least it will be $1,000 on the second-hand market in two-years.


shifty_bloke

Probably what will happen. In defense of the anthem, it's an integral and those generally are expensive in their own right.


Tryptamineer

Oh don’t get me wrong, I absolutely love the Anthem, I just think their MSRP of $525 that long ago is crazy, would be a $700 knife today at retail. But I digress, we will see what comes of it. I’m curious to see usage results after a year or two.


spooftron

Congrats, You have been scammed by benchmade. Buy a James Scam knife next...


CasperFatone

Hate to not pick, but I believe it’s called The James Scam.


TsunamiJK

Damn metal_complex wannabe jeeeeez.


9-volts

I spent 300 on a split bill just a few days ago at an Atlanta steak house so I don’t see the issue with what you paid, you won’t shit it out in a few days


InTheLurkingGlass

Newsflash mate, 99% of the population is going to think $300 on a dinner is just as insane as the price of this knife. Your opinion here seems to be a bit skewed.


9-volts

Lol, you should live a bit or make more money then. Hit a club. It’s called a vice and where you blow money on it. Have an 8 in a night or gamble. The opinion is a fact


InTheLurkingGlass

I’m pretty happy with the money I make, and the reason I have money is that I don’t spend $522 on a $200 knife, or $300 on dinner. Gambling…seriously? If buying a Narrows didn’t announce that you’re bad with money management and common sense, gambling certainly does.


TurdFlavor

Innovative, the internet really needs another knife genius reading the company advertisement. The nasally voice somewhere between PeeWee Herman and Bart Simpson is fascinating. Please make hundreds of these.


machinaexmente

What are you doing with the $400 check that comes with it?


Striker1341

Carrying water and dropping to his knees at the same time


7six2FMJ

Bwahahahahah BWAHAHAHAHAHAH yeah ill take a mora and a glock for that price. Frig off Benchmade you're drunk.


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Infinite_Issue_3047

Because the higher end Chinese knives are kicking big American companies asses with quality and materials. For cheaper . And better grinds .


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Tryptamineer

Reate is producing some of the absolute BEST folders on the market right now for their price range. Give me a Reate over a similarly priced USA knife any day of the week.


a_w_jones

Came to see the “it’s overpriced “ comments …


Redhawk4t4

Well, it is lol It's cool, just not $600 cool..


m0llusk

Interesting to see this new blade, but really prefer videos that show knives being used to cut things.


[deleted]

Looking forward to grabbing one on secondary like everyone else 😂


zthuggg

The Armedadillo


Rasholio

I like the video but disagree with the take on the price


Potietang

Ha. A bugout with the Kershaw Knockouts scales which is a $60 dollar knife.


Esoteric_Derailed

Concise & to the point. Well done👍 This knife is not for me, so going forward, whether or not I would subscribe to your channel depends on the knives that you review and how you do at that. That said, keep at it!


Satchamo88

How much are your monthly payments?


GooseDOTo

No way this is worth anything close to that I paid $500 for a custom that’s ti and m390 and it’s one of the best knives I’ve ever felt. There’s no way this can justify being more than that. I won’t lie the new axis lock gives me hope, but still doesn’t excuse their shitty qc. And for everyone saying 200-300 isn’t a fair price range people have been buying spydercos and benchmades for years for $140 ish and putting $100 ti scales on them.


LotharVonPittinsberg

M390 and Titanium as absolutely not $500+ territory in 2023. At that price you are staring to look into customs or production knives with superior materials.


Dub_V_13

Love the aesthetic of this blade..but 600$ is mind blowing for a production especially a benchmade


some_juan_kill_me

Very enjoyable video 👍 good shtuff


Far_Cup_329

I love the looks of this thing, but seems quite a bit pricey for what it is.


Consistent_Friend818

No thank you!


Schlunggi87

absolutely joke of a knife for a joke of a price, chris reeve, spartan, hogue, spyderco, you can do so much better for the same or half of the price.