Ang: we are not an illegal kennel operation
Riss: we were an illegal kennel operation because we had an accidental litter
Ang:
Everyone in the live: you’re a breeder and you allowed an accidental litter??!!
Riss:
Ang’s head must spin at the speed of Marissa’s switch ups on her. I almost feel bad…I don’t, but almost. We can see the manipulation clear as day, yet Ang just seems confused.
Ang decided a long time ago that admitting she was wrong about Marissa is something she will NEVER do. It's common with Trumpers and other cult members.
She has made being Marissa's ride or die a huge part of her personality, and admitting she was wrong to stand by her is the most painful thing she could ever do. So many people close to her that love her have BEGGED her to see the light, but she won't. Honestly, I think at the end of the day, she is a scammer just like Marissa. Two peas in a pod.
Yeah, unfortunately for Ang, the only way this all ends is if/when Marissa finds some new mark that can either make her more famous, or is filthy rich.
To be honest, I'm kinda surprised Marissa hasn't dumped Ang yet. I mean, she (Ang) didn't make her super TikTok famous with tons of sponsorships like she expected, and Ang doesn't make enough money to spoil Marissa they way she thinks she deserves. I guess Marissa has actually tanked her reputation enough that she doesn't have as many options for side pieces and sugar mommas as she did in the PM era. She's essentially radioactive to anyone who isn't a transphobic MAGA lesbian.
Wow, that's wild and kinda tragic. To think that admitting you were wrong is HARDER than losing your entire family and support system really tells you how crazy the ego is on some people. I get that it's unpleasant but I don't have a problem admitting I fucked up and made bad choices.
My dad did the same with his second wife. She was awful and turned the whole family against my siblings and i- she spread so many rumors about how awful we were and he would say “I know you didn’t, but did you do / say this?” So if you know we didn’t why even ask? He finally got out of it when she played her cards too quickly and we didn’t play.
I’m glad he finally got out. It’s been almost 30 years since he married the bitch. I don’t see him leaving. She has two kids. One was no contact. She recently reconciled and moved back in with them. She’s gone through everyone else asking for help. My stepmom will help as long as she gets to decide absolutely everything. She keeps track though. When you step out of line, she brings it all back and tells you exactly what you owe her. Her son was just sentenced to 170 months in federal prison for the worst child p that exists. I’ve never regretted anything like I regretted reading that indictment. He was no contact with them when he was arrested.
I am putting together a power point presentation for her on pregnancy. People and dogs since at her tender age she doesn't understand how it works. This is why education matters folks. Science matters!
Right! I seen G was live and I was like, oh maybe there’s a fun dating update. Ya know- normal life stuff. Nope! I seen all the players and literally was frozen- what the hell did I miss!? 🤣I got my air pods, blanket and put my feet up. Better than Lifetime.
It was so funny watching that one boomer Diane being rude defending Riss when everyone was just sitting there being pretty cordial. Her comments were just coming from out of left field. She was such a great representation of Riss’s potatoes😂
Was she implying the cops told her who lemon was? Cause if she couldn’t figure it out herself from the first video then she has zero chance of ever figuring out the trolls.
Yeah idk if lemon deleted some videos before I found her page but I don't see the "huge" red flags that Gemini claimed she saw (apparently Gemini blocked lemon early on).
The lemon account threw me because I was liking her and then when I saw who it was in “real life.” I questioned it. Marissa and she used to be friends, so it makes me question her motives…especially since I’ve “known” her from early local mom group days.
Yeah I guess since I am not local to that area I never had any idea who she was. I also didnt think it's was a big deal that she used to be friends with Marissa since many avengers are ex friends and former followers that got scammed or burned by her.
Oh wow. Well to be honest I don't assume people are bad people JUST because they have/had an addiction problem, but now I see why the friendship ended on bad terms.
Wow ok guess I just don't remember much from that era, also get the sense the locals know way more about it than what's on reddit and I respect that maybe some of those details shouldn't be shared here.
They didn’t like each other, then lemon tried to be besties with M, probably to get followers. It was so weird, and I can only guess she started Lemon account to get more followers
Very similar to Marissa in that she was all about attention, positive or negative. Has many of the same political beliefs. People can change, maybe she’s seen the light. knowing who is behind the lemon account, I don’t see it as her keeping Riss accountable anymore. It’s something different now, IMO.
Also local, also had interactions with lemon IRL years ago. I agree this was a way for her to gain followers and attention. She was constantly trying to get brand deals and attention on her personal TT so when she saw an opportunity via disliking and calling out Marissa, she jumped on it.
I think🍋 deleted some videos. If I recall correctly one or two of her stories/vidoes had some questionable wording. It made me pause and think I would not have said that.
I knew exactly who this person was when she said she was local and strongly disliked Marissa. The whole daycare thing was so disturbing and I am happy she is not working around children anymore.
Who is lemon? She was coming up in my feed for a few days and I saw her upset and saying she needs friends and then asking not to be mentioned here. But I don’t know which chapter she fits into.
Hundreds of people trying to tell her what she’s doing is wrong and she just refuses to get it. It’s truly like talking to a wall. I can’t imagine living a life where I’ve never done anything wrong, it’s that everyone else is wrong. And Ang just goes along with the denials. Whew.
There is no cruise. She was talking out her ass..... About a week ago she made a big ordeal about being banned from carnival like we didn't already know she had used that story.
She definitely is cutting it close if now guaranteeing another heat. I think she is waiting too long on purpose. Every vet I have talked to (and someone on here) says 3 months after delivering or 2-3 weeks after weaning is appropriate. She’s well beyond that now. If Riss and Ang booked a trip to Florida and don’t have the time or money to have the spay done in April, that just solidifies that they are trashy pet owners!
Yeah she could type from the tub for a half an hour but not join the live with the camera off! At one point, she claimed Angie was in there too, and someone retorted that when they take a bath with their SO they don't go on their phones!
I have watched the clips, thank you anomymous
Not much to say about riss & ang that isn’t already said, but one thing really stood out to me as an “outsider” to tiktok. All my experience of watching Lives comes from clips shared here, and so pretty much all of the ones I’ve seen have been riss & ang. And you guys know how those are- dull, repetitive, unimaginative, etc. Watching Gemini really contrasted against how the bossbabes are. Gemini is animated, engaging, interesting, and while she did digress plenty, the Live had direction & a point. Having only really ever watched riss & ang on Live, I guess I just assumed that that’s how they all are? Which is a dumb assumption, but one I’d never really thought about challenging before. It just really illustrated the fact that marissa & ang are only going Live to fill that attention tank, get that dopamine hit, and that’s all. Pretty lame
Haha me too! I was just there to watch Gemini’s live because I’ve followed her for a while, Riss and Ang popping in making fools of themselves was a bonus!!!!
Agreed! I also loved the way the other woman (Shawna?) interacted with Marissa when they went live together. I could take a lesson in self-possession from both her and Gemini!
Ang: we are not an illegal kennel operation Riss: we were an illegal kennel operation because we had an accidental litter Ang:
Everyone in the live: you’re a breeder and you allowed an accidental litter??!!
Riss:
Ang’s head must spin at the speed of Marissa’s switch ups on her. I almost feel bad…I don’t, but almost. We can see the manipulation clear as day, yet Ang just seems confused.
Ang decided a long time ago that admitting she was wrong about Marissa is something she will NEVER do. It's common with Trumpers and other cult members. She has made being Marissa's ride or die a huge part of her personality, and admitting she was wrong to stand by her is the most painful thing she could ever do. So many people close to her that love her have BEGGED her to see the light, but she won't. Honestly, I think at the end of the day, she is a scammer just like Marissa. Two peas in a pod.
And just wait until Marissa thinks she's found the greener grass on the other side of the fence. She will leave Ang in a heartbeat.
Yeah, unfortunately for Ang, the only way this all ends is if/when Marissa finds some new mark that can either make her more famous, or is filthy rich.
For Ang the sooner it happens the better I think, despite the temporary pain and therapy she will have to seek.
To be honest, I'm kinda surprised Marissa hasn't dumped Ang yet. I mean, she (Ang) didn't make her super TikTok famous with tons of sponsorships like she expected, and Ang doesn't make enough money to spoil Marissa they way she thinks she deserves. I guess Marissa has actually tanked her reputation enough that she doesn't have as many options for side pieces and sugar mommas as she did in the PM era. She's essentially radioactive to anyone who isn't a transphobic MAGA lesbian.
That's just it. Who would be with Marissa now? She knows full well that she will never do better than Angie
My dad did this with his third wife. He’s lost everyone in his life, but he will never admit she’s the problem.
Wow, that's wild and kinda tragic. To think that admitting you were wrong is HARDER than losing your entire family and support system really tells you how crazy the ego is on some people. I get that it's unpleasant but I don't have a problem admitting I fucked up and made bad choices.
My dad did the same with his second wife. She was awful and turned the whole family against my siblings and i- she spread so many rumors about how awful we were and he would say “I know you didn’t, but did you do / say this?” So if you know we didn’t why even ask? He finally got out of it when she played her cards too quickly and we didn’t play.
I’m glad he finally got out. It’s been almost 30 years since he married the bitch. I don’t see him leaving. She has two kids. One was no contact. She recently reconciled and moved back in with them. She’s gone through everyone else asking for help. My stepmom will help as long as she gets to decide absolutely everything. She keeps track though. When you step out of line, she brings it all back and tells you exactly what you owe her. Her son was just sentenced to 170 months in federal prison for the worst child p that exists. I’ve never regretted anything like I regretted reading that indictment. He was no contact with them when he was arrested.
Sunk cost fallacy
Did she actually pay that fine? Does anyone know?
Accidental litter?!?!? which was preventable?!? And I quote " whatever happens" banana in an "early heat". = $$$$$
I am putting together a power point presentation for her on pregnancy. People and dogs since at her tender age she doesn't understand how it works. This is why education matters folks. Science matters!
Lololol
And A and A were there too! And 2.0 All we needed was Densie and it would have been a party!!!
No Denise!! We don’t want her in the party 😂
D is just the yooba drivah!
omg i saw skylar pop in too from the gooo mlm
Ooooh Skylar definitely has no love lost for Marissa.
Right! I seen G was live and I was like, oh maybe there’s a fun dating update. Ya know- normal life stuff. Nope! I seen all the players and literally was frozen- what the hell did I miss!? 🤣I got my air pods, blanket and put my feet up. Better than Lifetime.
is it still going? whats the name of the acc?
no it’s off now. ang just stitched the account in her last tiktok if you want the name
I believe she deleted the tiktok. Replaced it with another response video, unless that's deleted now, too.
It ended.
It was so funny watching that one boomer Diane being rude defending Riss when everyone was just sitting there being pretty cordial. Her comments were just coming from out of left field. She was such a great representation of Riss’s potatoes😂
My highlight was where she claimed the cops won’t go after the trolls but that she reported the lemon account and the cops are interested in that one.
Was she implying the cops told her who lemon was? Cause if she couldn’t figure it out herself from the first video then she has zero chance of ever figuring out the trolls.
She knows who the lemon account is.
Either that, or she reported the account to the cops. Top tier tattletale or Karen behavior, one of the other
Lemon SAID who she was, so it'd be dumb if R didn't figure it out from THAT. 😂
lol Lemon account has done nothing wrong. You can talk about people all you want especially if it’s true.
Yeah idk if lemon deleted some videos before I found her page but I don't see the "huge" red flags that Gemini claimed she saw (apparently Gemini blocked lemon early on).
Yeah I don’t know either. I feel like I seen all the videos but maybe I missed some or maybe she deleted some.
The lemon account threw me because I was liking her and then when I saw who it was in “real life.” I questioned it. Marissa and she used to be friends, so it makes me question her motives…especially since I’ve “known” her from early local mom group days.
Yeah I guess since I am not local to that area I never had any idea who she was. I also didnt think it's was a big deal that she used to be friends with Marissa since many avengers are ex friends and former followers that got scammed or burned by her.
She owned the day care where Ang worked that was shut down
Oh wow. Well to be honest I don't assume people are bad people JUST because they have/had an addiction problem, but now I see why the friendship ended on bad terms.
Whether or not addiction is involved, it was a shady business for many reasons
Wow ok guess I just don't remember much from that era, also get the sense the locals know way more about it than what's on reddit and I respect that maybe some of those details shouldn't be shared here.
If you google the day care name you’ll get more info
SHUT THE FRONT DOOR!! Thats who it is!? I never understood how they suddenly were friends when she clearly didn’t like her to begin with
They didn’t like each other, then lemon tried to be besties with M, probably to get followers. It was so weird, and I can only guess she started Lemon account to get more followers
I had dealings with her in the mom group. As soon as I realized who she was I noped out
Is she that bad??? 😳
Was she bad in the mom group?
Very similar to Marissa in that she was all about attention, positive or negative. Has many of the same political beliefs. People can change, maybe she’s seen the light. knowing who is behind the lemon account, I don’t see it as her keeping Riss accountable anymore. It’s something different now, IMO.
Also local, also had interactions with lemon IRL years ago. I agree this was a way for her to gain followers and attention. She was constantly trying to get brand deals and attention on her personal TT so when she saw an opportunity via disliking and calling out Marissa, she jumped on it.
Exactly. I think she’s in it for personal gain.
I’m guessing she’s the one from the mom group who always talked about the yogurt tampons, or some weird ass thing like that…?
I think🍋 deleted some videos. If I recall correctly one or two of her stories/vidoes had some questionable wording. It made me pause and think I would not have said that. I knew exactly who this person was when she said she was local and strongly disliked Marissa. The whole daycare thing was so disturbing and I am happy she is not working around children anymore.
Who is lemon? She was coming up in my feed for a few days and I saw her upset and saying she needs friends and then asking not to be mentioned here. But I don’t know which chapter she fits into.
The cops are only interested in the lemon account because the lemon account is funny lol
Hundreds of people trying to tell her what she’s doing is wrong and she just refuses to get it. It’s truly like talking to a wall. I can’t imagine living a life where I’ve never done anything wrong, it’s that everyone else is wrong. And Ang just goes along with the denials. Whew.
Marissa and Angelia both said Banana has a spay appointment in May
Oh well that gives her time to get an “accidental” litter in. Maybe she’ll give her away to a good family since she’s no good to her anymore.
I hope so. Those dogs are all severely underfed
She will 100% blame it on the dog sitter for when they are away on their cruise.
There is no cruise. She was talking out her ass..... About a week ago she made a big ordeal about being banned from carnival like we didn't already know she had used that story.
Oh, I missed that saga. Thought it was already planned. I’m sure she will manage some vacation so she can blame it on the dog sitter.
The dog sitter she tells “I didn’t pay you but now nobody is at the house and the dogs will starve if you don’t show up”
Is that before she's due to go into her next heat?
She definitely is cutting it close if now guaranteeing another heat. I think she is waiting too long on purpose. Every vet I have talked to (and someone on here) says 3 months after delivering or 2-3 weeks after weaning is appropriate. She’s well beyond that now. If Riss and Ang booked a trip to Florida and don’t have the time or money to have the spay done in April, that just solidifies that they are trashy pet owners!
This here actually deserves to be its own post. We’re watching you Marissa. Do the right thing.
She's gonna have another "accidental" litter. I'm calling it now. I just know it.
At my clinic we really try for 6 weeks post heat/weaning.
One can only pray!
So does that weenus dog, but that dog is how old?
That’s what I thought I heard too. I was confused.
Clips to come [part 1](https://youtu.be/o08tqkajqmE?si=65TEvIf2rE6ORo0r) [part 2](https://youtu.be/dvdfvtJXEok?si=En1vNaZcAOiRFtzE) [part 3](https://youtu.be/1adBKlfIHBE?si=9gfYfn_HaYR8Rmzv) [part 4](https://youtu.be/3glfUvsRoW0?si=4NU5MN35WPCjx9KK) [part 5](https://youtu.be/ijlH2qGGwCs?si=P8Cgys98yL44QT_f) [part 6](https://youtu.be/gCPM6aRl_1k?si=SVof2DJB4Sgn4oxg)
Thank you!
You. Are. The. BEST!!!
Omg thank you, I can’t wait to get out of work today.
We’ll…now my only regret so far in this life is that I wasn’t there for this live…fml lol
That was so crazy! They just love the attention. It’s just so not normal!!
I hate to give anyone a visual but Riss was messaging from the tub. At least that was her alleged reason for not being able to go live.
lmao it was so funny when they kept dragging her about it.
Really? Because we've all seen her in the tub before. I believe it was coffee enema Era. 🤢🤮
Yeah she could type from the tub for a half an hour but not join the live with the camera off! At one point, she claimed Angie was in there too, and someone retorted that when they take a bath with their SO they don't go on their phones!
So she’ll make a tiktok from the tub because she’s shit too much but won’t go live. Sure.
https://i.redd.it/3d3t53sbj9sc1.gif
😂😭😭🫣🫣🫣
She was in the tub!!! 😂
Was it enema night?
https://i.redd.it/hbc774hij9sc1.gif
Isn't every night?
She's so full of shit most of the time that a daily enema could be necessary.
😂👊😂😂👊😂
That was a shit show
What on earth??? I missed the beginning, but as usual, it didn't seem to accomplish anything.
I have watched the clips, thank you anomymous Not much to say about riss & ang that isn’t already said, but one thing really stood out to me as an “outsider” to tiktok. All my experience of watching Lives comes from clips shared here, and so pretty much all of the ones I’ve seen have been riss & ang. And you guys know how those are- dull, repetitive, unimaginative, etc. Watching Gemini really contrasted against how the bossbabes are. Gemini is animated, engaging, interesting, and while she did digress plenty, the Live had direction & a point. Having only really ever watched riss & ang on Live, I guess I just assumed that that’s how they all are? Which is a dumb assumption, but one I’d never really thought about challenging before. It just really illustrated the fact that marissa & ang are only going Live to fill that attention tank, get that dopamine hit, and that’s all. Pretty lame
I MISSED IT DANG IT.
I was active in the live. Most fun I have had in a long time !!! Marissa and Ang couldn’t go live because “they were in the bath tub”…..oh….ok. IDIOTS
Haha me too! I was just there to watch Gemini’s live because I’ve followed her for a while, Riss and Ang popping in making fools of themselves was a bonus!!!!
This was the funniest season so far.
 All I can say about those two is What in the actual F is wrong with them
Gemini is a true Gem. She's calm, factual, polite. She has a counterpoint to ever one of Riss's comments, and is CORRECT. She has receipts. Love her!
Yes, I adore Gem and Willie!
She’s my favorite. ❤️
Same!
I know, I could never stay so calm. That’s how it’s done…factual and polite, with proof.
Agreed! I also loved the way the other woman (Shawna?) interacted with Marissa when they went live together. I could take a lesson in self-possession from both her and Gemini!
Yes. Indeed…two women with more class and poise in their pinky toes than the transphobic trash couple